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Title: Illegal Aliens Will Use 'Shovels and Axes' Against Americans In Armed Rebellion
Source: Americans For Legal Immigration
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 28, 2010
Author: Americans For Legal Immigration
Post Date: 2010-04-28 23:16:40 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 688
Comments: 53

VIDEO CLIP THREATENING ARMED REBELLION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDlutO0KK7g

"We will not stop! We will take up our shovels and pickaxes and we...we will use them against you! Believe that!" screams an opponent of Arizona's tough new bill addressing illegal immigration.

Several organizers supporting the opponents of the bill can be seen trying to stop illegal alien supporters from accosting American citizens who support SB 1070.

Despite intense efforts by illegal alien organizers and police to keep the angry crowd back, a large Hispanic male in a red sport jersey that reads "Warner 13" tries to push past handlers and another voice screams (garbled) "you can't argue with a puto!"

The Urban Dictionary defines a puto as a "Spanish word for a male prostitute. sometimes it's offensive for homosexuals. In Mexico it is used for cowards and traitors."

Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) is circulating this video to the nation via national press release today. The video is also being sent to ALIPAC's 30,000 national supporters for comment and circulation, with encouragements for activists to send copies to state and federal lawmakers.

ALIPAC is also issuing an advisory to law enforcement agencies across America in anticipation of the May 1st illegal alien protests scheduled nationally by Congressman Luis Gutierrez and the National Council of La Raza (The Race).

"We just want to make sure that our police agencies in these towns and cities where similar groups of angry illegal alien supporters plan to gather on May 1, are fully and properly informed," said William Gheen of ALIPAC. "We are asking our supporters to make sure their local police are aware of the riots, assaults on police, assaults on Americans, and murderous slogans advocating armed rebellion documented in this video, as well as others coming out of Arizona."

The link to the video being released today is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDlutO0KK7g


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These are the people that our resident weasel ("Ferret" Mike) takes up for and whines and carries on about.

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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

"We will not stop! We will take up our shovels and pickaxes and we...we will use them against you!

Cool, only a wetback spic would bring a shovel to a gun fight.

These are the people that our resident weasel ("Ferret" Mike) takes up for and whines and carries on about.

weasel's about as useless and treasonous as they get. He's probably unemployed and on welfare too, look at the times of his posts. He's posting 16hrs/day...that doesn't leave a lot of time for a job does it?

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-28   23:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Illegal Aliens Will Use 'Shovels and Axes' Against Americans In Armed Rebellion

This rebellion won't last very long. 223, 300 WM, 50 cal. beats that crap any day. Lets party.

If a man has nothing that he is willing to die for, then he has nothing worth living for.

Give Me Liberty  posted on  2010-04-28   23:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Give Me Liberty (#2)

This rebellion won't last very long. 223, 300 WM, 50 cal. beats that crap any day. Lets party.

I was thinking the same thing. What good are their shovels gonna do when they are facing people with SKS rifles and AK-47's, not to mention all kinds of handguns and lots of ammo?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-28   23:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: James Deffenbach (#0) (Edited)

Nah. I believe strongly that an amnesty bill should make people accountable to show they deserve to be here. It should not e a freebie.

I worked many years on many tree planting contracts. I was often away from home and worked six, sometimes seven days a week to try to finish the contractual hectares of ground with quality planting to the specified numbers of seedlings per plot.

I always planted lead with the fast, strong planters and took a great deal of pride in my work. I had very few missed days and was one of the people who did not stay up all night in the bunk house playing poker, and I enjoyed the work a great deal.

In the summer I would switch to working wild land forest fire fighting, and worked into a leadership job with Skookum Reforestation once owned y Scott Coleman of Eugene, Oregon.

I planted twelve years and worked fire fighting several years longer then this.

Why did I stop planting? Well, contracts go to the lowest bidders, and eventually I wound up on the one of the few 'white boy crews'. I worked for Jim Luzzi and Bob Buoley who owned Greenhill Reforestation.

The low bidders eventually were all Mexican crews, with people willing to work for 9 to 11 dollars per hour to my career high of 16 to 22 dollars per hour. Near the end, bidding pressures had reduced my pay per hour to much less then that.

I went through my period of anger, but realized the truly guilty parties in this were the owners of these fly by night companies who exploited immigrants.

I don't take personally what the workers who replaced me did in wanting to come work for far more money then they were making at home, and recognized their thinking was tightly focused in on their kids, wives and family back home.

And in talking on this issue, over the years I have consistently lamed the exploiters of labor who drew in workers to pit them against us. I refuse to be manipulated into fighting the other side of the coin of the two groups of workers who are supposed to fight to distract the heat from the capitalists counting the take from their exploitation of workers in the lowest bidder wins contracts.

I would of gladly planted far longer then I did. I went on to work at Burley Bicycles, Bicycle Gallery in Portland, Pedal Power in Eugene, and many other places.

I also served in the U.S. Army twice, and adding in the years I did at schools for the 1/19th Special Forces Group at Ft. Douglas, Salt lake City, UT, I served 9 years active duty, three as a part timer. I have worked hard all my life.

Now, try to make me a scapegoat for your frustrations if you want. But I earned the right to have my political opinions, just as you did yours.

And if you don't like that, kiss my fucking ass. I don't care if you like me or not, I didn't work all my life to get stroked for it. But if you focus on me as a scapegoat for your political frustrations, you are no better than the assholes in the vid Jimmy here posted.

Nuff said.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock (#1)

"He's posting 16hrs/day...that doesn't leave a lot of time for a job does it?"

I use a laptop, and am on occasionally most times, girlie boy. You have a big mouth, pray I don't ever meet you.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret (#4)

I earned the right to have my political opinions

You have earned the right to be a useful tool for people like the Kenyan you are so crazy about and the illegals who would kill your stupid, white @$$ if they got an opportunity.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   0:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret (#5)

I use a laptop, and am on occasionally most times, girlie boy. You have a big mouth, pray I don't ever meet you.

Still playing internet tough guy and keyboard commando I see.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   0:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

Nah, I have nothing to prove. And I expected your bait.

If you are one thing Jimmy, you re predictable. ;-)


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret (#8)

Nah, I have nothing to prove.

And you prove it regularly.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   0:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret (#5)

You have a big mouth, pray I don't ever meet you.

Another idle threat you pathetic loser?

You don't have the bus fare to meet me

ROTFLMAO....at you

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-29   0:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#9)

Thanks, compliment accepted. Not in the way you meant it, but if you really knew me, you would know this is play, not the regular activism I do in real time.

That I'll keep to myself. Thanks for sharing.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Flintlock (#10)

Oh, I never said I would bother to waste my time looking for you, precious. ;-)

Now, back to bozo you go.


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret (#12)

Oh, I never said I would bother to waste my time looking for you, precious. ;-)

Bullshit pantyboy, you threatened me, and everybody saw it.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-29   0:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Well, let me think.

Should there be some kind of insurrection and the illegals start attacking Americans, The first place that any freedom loving Americans should go, is Washington DC, fully armed to the teeth. It will officially time to take out the trash, and rid ourselves of the failed leadership that brought TERROR to this country via a failed immigration policy.

If our country had the same laws as Mexico does for immigration, there would be no illegal immigration issues in this country.

The only thing that we should be doing right now, is preparing for the imminent revolt, that is coming. It is coming whether we white people want it to or not.

Should anything happen to me and mine, the revenge would be biblical.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-04-29   0:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Flintlock (#10)

Another idle threat you pathetic loser?

He's been saving up Japan Dolphins for a while now, it might be wise to lock and load.

Oh, and clean the barbecue too!


My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2010-04-29   0:39:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#15)

Oh, and clean the barbecue too!

Yum,yum,yum

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-04-29   0:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#15) (Edited)

Heh, go ahead buddy. And while you are at it, check the Methylmercury levels of the meat, what that chemical does to nerve tissue and then note that the federal penalties for consuming such meat is the least of your worries. ;-D


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   0:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-29   0:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Flintlock (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-29   0:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Give Me Liberty (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-29   0:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#20)

--

Part on of the segmented and posted movie Red Dawn on You tube

WOLVERINE! ;-)


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Ferret  posted on  2010-04-29   1:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Flintlock (#1)

He's posting 16hrs/day...that doesn't leave a lot of time for a job does it?

Nope, just enough time for him to polish a couple of knobs !

"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

noone222  posted on  2010-04-29   6:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

We will take up our shovels and pickaxes and we...we will use them against you! Believe that!

That is carrying "machismo" to the extreme. LMAO!

Try it and there will not be a spic left alive in the entire country.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-04-29   6:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

I gotta pick-axe !

"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

noone222  posted on  2010-04-29   6:27:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#3)

What good are their shovels gonna do when they are facing people with SKS rifles and AK-47's, not to mention all kinds of handguns and lots of ammo?

In the spitit of divide and conquer, there'll be plenty of agents on this side of the border who will see to it that those shovels are replaced with hot stuff.

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick ('uniter' = G.W.)

Bub  posted on  2010-04-29   11:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

I know some Polish illegal aliens.

None of them are talking about shovels.

Einstein took the cake. Boas ate it.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-04-29   11:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

"We will not stop! We will take up our shovels and pickaxes and we...we will use them against you! Believe that!" screams an opponent of Arizona's tough new bill addressing illegal immigration.

What's the range on an axe and shovel? What, direct vicinity right? What's the range of, say, a handgun? Effectively (accurately) probably 50 yards, and further with declining accuracy. Rifles? Golly, some go to the horizon and keep going.

I wonder, in a confrontation with people wielding axes and shovels who are threatening to hurt me and my family with them, what weapon I'll choose?

What do you think Jeff? I have a Tommygun, but it's only 45ACP, so it's more or less a cool looking weapon that mimics a shotgun for range. I'm thinking a nice StG-58 in .308 for longer range rapid fire reaching out and touching somebody? A Mini-14 for < 200 yard axe-shovel scuffles? Perhaps a Remington 788 in .243 with a variable scope with parallax correction for those ever so fun 500+ yard encounters that you like to take time to aim on?

Gosh, I hope that they don't feel that this is unfair. I'd hate to hurt their feelings. I'm a sensitive caring guy after all.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-29   13:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#26)

I know some Polish illegal aliens.

None of them are talking about shovels.

Nope. They're going to try to assault us with septic tanks, because they know we don't have the arms to stop that kind of firepower and armor.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-04-29   13:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)

Should there be some kind of insurrection and the illegals start attacking Americans, The first place that any freedom loving Americans should go, is Washington DC, fully armed to the teeth. It will officially time to take out the trash, and rid ourselves of the failed leadership that brought TERROR to this country via a failed immigration policy.

Excellent post.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Eric Stratton (#18)

Way Cool! Bring it on!

It would be somewhat amusing for someone to threaten me with a pickaxe or a shovel assuming I could get to my stuff that has a bit better reach.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA (#23)

That is carrying "machismo" to the extreme. LMAO!

Try it and there will not be a spic left alive in the entire country.

Yeah, sounds mighty brave.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#24)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:50:25 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Bub (#25)

In the spitit of divide and conquer, there'll be plenty of agents on this side of the border who will see to it that those shovels are replaced with hot stuff.

Sure, but do you think they would be a match for 40 or 50 million Americans who are armed and pissed off about the invasion?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#26)

I know some Polish illegal aliens.

None of them are talking about shovels.

I guess not. Only stupid people would be talking about using shovels in a revolution. And the one that made that statement looked and sounded stupid.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)

Gosh, I hope that they don't feel that this is unfair. I'd hate to hurt their feelings. I'm a sensitive caring guy after all.

You ol' devil you. That post was pure poetry, almost brought a tear to my eyes. And I don't know how or why they would consider it unfair. Sounds to me like they may be the ones who want to get something started.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   15:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-29   18:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-04-29   18:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Nice (SKS) !

"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."

noone222  posted on  2010-04-29   19:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Eric Stratton (#36)

I quite honestly would have no trouble disarming someone w/ a shovel assuming that they were not stronger than me otherwise.

I wouldn't have any trouble "disarming" him either assuming I could get him in my sights. Might even "diskneecap" him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   19:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

My biggest thing would be not laughing too hard seeing a Mexican rush me w/ a shovel.

What about a pickaxe? ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-04-29   19:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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