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Title: Dems’ immigration proposal creates national ID card, ‘fingerprints every worker’
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0430/dems-immigration-national-id-card/
Published: May 1, 2010
Author: Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2010-05-01 11:52:35 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 118
Comments: 7

Democrat: Public more comfortable with idea of national ID card

Civil liberties groups and even some die-hard supporters of the Democratic Party are raising the alarm over the Democrats' proposed immigration overhaul, which would see the creation of a national biometric ID card.

"If the biometric national ID card provision of the draft bill becomes law, every worker in America would have to be fingerprinted and a new federal bureaucracy – one that could cost hundreds of billions of dollars – would have to be created to issue cards," the ACLU said in a statement Thursday, following the release of Senate Democrat's 28-page proposal (PDF) for comprehensive immigration reform.

“Creating a biometric national ID will not only be astronomically expensive, it will usher government into the very center of our lives. Every worker in America will need a government permission slip in order to work. And all of this will come with a new federal bureaucracy – one that combines the worst elements of the DMV and the TSA,” said Christopher Calabrese, ACLU Legislative Counsel.

As Ezra Klein notes at the Washington Post, no fewer than 10 pages of the proposal are devoted to the "Believe System," which sets up an ID card for everyone in the work force. "Believe" is an acronym for Biometric Enrollment, Locally-stored Information and Electronic Verification of Employment. The Social Security Administration would be responsible for running the ID card system.

The Democrats' proposal, whose main backers include Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, makes it clear that the ID cards are intended solely for the purpose of eliminating undocumented immigrants from the work force. It would be illegal for any corporation, level of government or law enforcement officer "to require or even ask an individual cardholder to produce their social security card for any purpose other than electronic verification of employment eligibility and verification of identity for Social Security Administration purposes."

But that does not satisfy many activist groups, including some pro-Democrat groups supporting immigration reform. An unnamed representative of one such group told The Hill that the ID card proposal sounds "Orwellian."

The ID card proposal "will give people some pause," said Angela Kelley, immigration policy chief at the liberal Center for American Progress, as quoted at The Hill.

Sen. Dick Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, defended the proposal in the face of early criticism, telling The Hill that he believes the public has become more comfortable with the idea of a national identification card.

“The biometric identification card is a critical element here,” Durbin said. “For a long time it was resisted by many groups, but now we live in a world where we take off our shoes at the airport and pull out our identification. ... People understand that in this vulnerable world, we have to be able to present identification."

Among the other elements of the immigration proposal is an eight-year waiting list for amnesty for undocumented migrants. Provided an undocumented migrant currently in the US pays his or her taxes, does not commit a crime and learns English in an eight-year period, they will be eligible for legal status.

The proposal comes just one day after both President Barack Obama and the top Republican House representative suggested that immigration reform is unlikely to happen this year. There "may not be an appetite" for immigration reform this year, Obama said, while House Minority Leader John Boehner said, "There is not a chance that immigration is going to move through the Congress."

The proposal is taking heat in many corners of the media that tend to be supportive of Democratic initiatives.

The plan "outdoes Arizona in bigotry," asserts Anis Shivani at the Huffington Post.

This spawn of Schumer's devilish head has everything a power-mad DHS bureaucrat could desire. Immigrants are presumed criminals and terrorists before they're given a chance to be half-treated as humans. That's the whole thrust of the bill. Immigrants are presumed criminals or terrorists. The burden of proof is on them. "The oddity" of the Democrats' strategy, writes Ezra Klein, "is that anti-immigration sentiments run highest among the same communities that are most opposed to national ID cards. Now, it's also the case that if you're going to support citizenship searches for people with Hispanic-looking shoes, it's a bit odd to worry about an ID card to verify employment...."

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

This spawn of Schumer's devilish head has everything a power-mad DHS bureaucrat could desire. Immigrants are presumed criminals and terrorists before they're given a chance to be half-treated as humans. That's the whole thrust of the bill. Immigrants are presumed criminals or terrorists. The burden of proof is on them. "The oddity" of the Democrats' strategy, writes Ezra Klein, "is that anti-immigration sentiments run highest among the same communities that are most opposed to national ID cards. Now, it's also the case that if you're going to support citizenship searches for people with Hispanic-looking shoes, it's a bit odd to worry about an ID card to verify employment...."

there ya go....Hegelian Dialectic...bait-and-switch...problem solved!! "Your papers, please!"

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-01   18:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

what i am noticing is that as time goes on its not possible for these guys to stay hidden.

disguises wearing out.

'It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand.'

- Apache proverb

gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-05-01   19:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: gengis gandhi (#2)

"...the hidden things of darkness will be revealed." bible.cc/1_corinthians/4-5.htm

Must be getting close!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-01   19:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#3)

Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face, stars fill my dreams I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen They talk of days for which they sit and wait, all will be revealed

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, sounds caress my ears But not a word I heard could I relay, the story was quite clear

Kashmir, Led Zepplin ;-)

'It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand.'

- Apache proverb

gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-05-01   19:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Horse, christine, Twenty Twelve, farmfriend, CadetD, Wudidiz, Eric Stratton, all (#1)

This spawn of Schumer's devilish head has everything a power-mad DHS bureaucrat could desire. Immigrants are presumed criminals and terrorists before they're given a chance to be half-treated as humans. That's the whole thrust of the bill. Immigrants are presumed criminals or terrorists. The burden of proof is on them. "The oddity" of the Democrats' strategy, writes Ezra Klein, "is that anti-immigration sentiments run highest among the same communities that are most opposed to national ID cards. Now, it's also the case that if you're going to support citizenship searches for people with Hispanic-looking shoes, it's a bit odd to worry about an ID card to verify employment...."

there ya go....Hegelian Dialectic...bait-and-switch...problem solved!! "Your papers, please!"

Exactly - problem, reaction, solution. Each step inching toward the complete totalitarian slave state. We do not need a "biometric National I.D. Card" to solve the problem of illegal immigration. What we need is enforcement of existing laws and a tighter watch on the border. The National Slave I.D. is something that the Biderbergers/Rothschilds/Rockefuckers have been pushing for some time. The rejection of "Real I.D." by many states has hamstrung the effort so they keep coming back from different angles time and again.

Now coordinate this new database with the other new National Hellth I.D. database and you have gone a big leap toward total control over every action taken by any slave at any time.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-01   19:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#0)

And the MECHA/NAACP/SPLC types would continue to jam up the courts with bullshit about racial profiling.

Sounds like deconstructionist paradise.

“we were respected as the most disinterested and charitable nation in the world.” - Robert A. Taft

Dakmar  posted on  2010-05-01   19:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#5) (Edited)

Exactly - problem, reaction, solution. Each step inching toward the complete totalitarian slave state. We do not need a "biometric National I.D. Card" to solve the problem of illegal immigration. What we need is enforcement of existing laws and a tighter watch on the border. The National Slave I.D. is something that the Biderbergers/Rothschilds/Rockefuckers have been pushing for some time. The rejection of "Real I.D." by many states has hamstrung the effort so they keep coming back from different angles time and again.

Now coordinate this new database with the other new National Hellth I.D. database and you have gone a big leap toward total control over every action taken by any slave at any time.

Well, they'll never stop the invasion of America by their fifth column; God said so: [ bible.cc/ezekiel/38-9.htm /all of Ezekiel 38-39 /Revelation 20:7-9]

I woke up about an hour ago, and turned on the jew tube to see if the tornadoes they were predicting came anywhere near my daughter's home, and what kind of devastation was occurring because of the oil they spilled on us, and all I could find was "false flag nyc, false flag nyc, could be domestic terrorists, false flag ncy, could be domestic terrorists." Well, they weren't calling it a false flag; I am. But it's obvious the usual suspects are at it bright and early, to impress on the sheeple that the enemies of the ADL/SPLC are the enemies of the people.

Micah 2:1 Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.

bible.cc/micah/2-1.htm

2And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

3Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil, from which ye shall not remove your necks; neither shall ye go haughtily: for this time is evil.

4In that day shall one take up a parable against you, and lament with a doleful lamentation, and say, We be utterly spoiled: he hath changed the portion of my people: how hath he removed it from me! turning away he hath divided our fields.

5Therefore thou shalt have none that shall cast a cord by lot in the congregation of the LORD.

6Prophesy ye not, say they to them that prophesy: they shall not prophesy to them, that they shall not take shame.....

[I just saw a father and son false prophet team on the tube. I came in late, but they had a "Great Tribulation" chart they were offering free, and it looked like it was blown up in the background with a depiction of "the sea and it became like the blood of a dead man" (just what they have created in the Gulf; stock up on water; see Revelation 16:3-4 for what they may have planned next for us). These stooges were saying the church was going to be sucked up out of here and we should not be worrying about earthly things. My Bible tells me differently: bible.cc/revelation/3-21.htm .

They ran a list of the troubles that were coming (thanks, City of London) and of course, near the top of the list: "ISRAEL" THREATENED. Another interesting note, they weren't begging for money! They made it very clear about that....kinda like that ROTHSCHILD site, http://scepterofjudah.net : "Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit....." (because we already own it all, including you, hahahah!!!)]

7O thou that art named the house of Jacob, is the spirit of the LORD straitened? are these his doings? do not my words do good to him that walketh uprightly?

8Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.

9The women of my people have ye cast out from their pleasant houses; from their children have ye taken away my glory for ever.

10Arise ye, and depart; for this is not your rest [ bible.cc/1_chronicles/22-9.htm (note "Solomon" means "Peaceable", as in Prince of Peace, Isaiah 9:6) / bible.cc/hebrews/3-11.htm / Ezekiel 20:38 / bible.cc/john/10-26.htm ] because it is polluted [Micah 4:11], it shall destroy you (Micah 4:13), even with a sore destruction (your day is coming, "City"; yours too Rome; Ezekiel 39:6)].

11 If a man walking in the spirit and falsehood do lie, saying, I will prophesy unto thee of wine and of strong drink; he shall even be the prophet of this people.

12 I will surely assemble, O Jacob, all of thee; I will surely gather the remnant of Israel; I will put them together as the sheep of Bozrah [Bozrah = "sheepfold" bible.cc/isaiah/63-1.htm ], as the flock in the midst of their fold: they shall make great noise by reason of the multitude of men. [ bible.cc/zechariah/2-4.htm ]

13The breaker is come up before them: they have broken up, and have passed through the gate, and are gone out by it: and their king shall pass before them, and the LORD on the head of them. [ bible.cc/john/10-4.htm / http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421 ]

The sheep are in their sheepfold [John 10], and their Shepherd will stamp out the wolves soon enough.

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edit. But in the meantime, we'll probably be seeing more roadstops, and searching of vehicles, homes, crotches, and the checking of "papers" of the "domestic terrorist" types....you know...the ones they OFFICIALLY declared enemies of the ZOG in 1933....the American people.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-02   8:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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