See other Immigration Articles
Title: Ariz.'s largest paper: Pols failed on immigration
Source:
news.yahoo.com
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100502 ... _us/us_immigration_enforcement
Published: May 2, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-05-02 17:44:40 by Ferret
Keywords: None
Views: 242
Comments: 18
PHOENIX – Arizona's largest newspaper criticized U.S. Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl and a host of other elected officials in a rare front-page editorial Sunday, saying the politicians have failed to find solutions to illegal immigration. The state has become the target of calls for boycotts since adopting a law that requires local and state law enforcement officers to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally. "The federal government is abdicating its duty on the border. Arizona politicians are pandering to public fear," The Arizona Republic said in a full-page editorial. "The result is a state law that intimidates Latinos while doing nothing to curb illegal immigration." Doug MacEachern, an editorial writer for the Republic, said the newspaper has put editorials on the front page over the years but this was the first time one filled the front page. "It's of sufficient importance that we thought it required something very over-the-top to grab people's attention," he told The Associated Press on Sunday. The editorial appeared one day after thousands marched against the law in Phoenix and Tucson, Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, among other cities. McCain was once a champion of comprehensive immigration reform, but has abandoned his principles while he fights off a GOP primary challenge this year from former U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth, the Republic said. Kyl has also dropped efforts for comprehensive reform and is no longer willing to work with Democrats on the issue now that he's a member of the Senate Republic leadership, the paper said. "We already had several editorials setting out our objections to the new law, and this addresses the umbrella issue of a lack of leadership that really has played out over a number of years," MacEachern said. The editorial also named Gov. Jan Brewer, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and former governor and current Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. "Ensconced in a Democratic administration, she forgot all the arguments she once used to demand the Bush administration address immigration reform and reimburse Arizona for the costs of the broken border," the Republic said. "Put in charge of Obama's effort to craft immigration reform, she couldn't get the thing out of neutral." Napolitano, speaking on "Fox News Sunday," said more resources were being poured into securing the border than ever before. "Every resource that can be put at that border is being put at the border. Every security is being made," Napolitano said. "But we still need comprehensive immigration reform." The newspaper called for reform that allows for current undocumented immigrants to earn citizenship, secures the borders and puts tough sanctions in place for employers who hire undocumented immigrants. ___ On the Net: The Arizona Republic: http://www.azcentral.com
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Ferret (#0)
No. McCain has been a traitorous, treasonous socialist begging the government laws and legal authority to permit massive citizenship for illegals. What a ridiculous commentary in the Republic.
"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14
I think I read this same editorial in the LA Times. I'm sure if I looked I could also find it in the Portland Oregonian, the Seattle Times, and just about every other newspaper in the country. Actually, I think I also read it the last time immigration became a national topic. If anything ever was done by the Feds to curb illegal immigration, these same papers would then be demanding that the states ignore it and pass their own laws.
The Federal government needs to stop stalling and get comprehensive amnesty passed that is responsible and fair to naive born citizens who want accountability, and gives hard working, productive immigrants the tools they need to work toward citizenship, sends unqualified people back and sets standards for seasonal workers. The law in Arizonan is irresponsible and reactionary, and the only good I see it as having done is to put a long stalled issue on the front burner where it belongs
No, it does not. The federal government NEEDS to enforce the existing laws and purge the nation of the filth.
"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14
Tuesday - Nine people have been arrested for chaining themselves to the Old Arizona Capitol building doors in protest of Senate Bill 1070. All nine are students. Six are from Arizona State University, two are from Pima Community College and one is from South Mountain Community college. All nine had their own attorneys. "It was a symbolic gesture to block out the hatred and bigotry that has emanated from the passage of this bill to keep it from entering the executive branch," attorney Antonio Bustamente said. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has five days to sign the bill, veto it or do nothing and allow it to become law. Brewer said she'd be reviewing the legislation over the next several days, indicating that she will likely take the maximum time allowed to her before taking action. Faith leaders and community groups organized a large protest at the Capitol Tuesday. The Border Action Network and Reform Immigration FOR America said they had 50,000 petitions calling on Brewer to veto the legislation. Leaders said the "moral implications of this harsh and ineffective bill that would create fear and mistrust throughout Arizona's Latino community, while doing nothing to address the broken immigration system." Video of the student lock down can be found here. More information related to SB 1070 can be found at: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/summary/s.1070pshs.doc.htm http://acluaz.org/press_releases/4_14_10.html http://www.borderaction.org/web/index.php http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/immigration/2010/04/urge-arizona-governor-to-veto-sb-1070.html Updates: A solidarity demo for those arrested will be held Tuesday at 6pm at the 4th Ave. jail. Reports say that some of them won't get out until around 11pm. CORRECTION: 85,000 petitions were delivered. See also: Civil Disobedience in Protest of SB1070 There is good reason mcCain has been so scare on the issue. He is running for re-election, and the increasing heat from this well could be the tipping point that finally sends him into retirement. I'm not surprised thst this year he seems to have lost his voice on the issue.
My plan would be to first build a wall that would dwarf the Great Wall of China, both above and below ground to STOP the illegal invasion. Then we would begin sorting out the good and the bad illegals here and dealing with them accordingly. Flush the bad, and set the good onto a path of citizenship that is stringent, yet doable, if they wish to do so. Otherwise, adios. Those who employ illegals after this phase, should be financially hammered unmercifully, with prison time a very real possibility and probability. The HBN1 (?), or whatever program that lets cheap tech people into the country, needs to stop immediately. Gates and the gang can afford to pay real wages to real Americans. Just my thoughts on our conundrum.
Sounds like treason.
More than 70% of those of us who live here support the new law. We're tired of the amount of crime, particularly violent crime committed by illegals. Then again, some like yourself probably want open borders.
Cute propaganda poster. Question: When you get pulled over for speeding, does the police officer ask for any, oh I don't know, identification? Question: If you're in the process of robbing a home, and get caught and the police show up, do they check your identification (driver's license, whathaveyou)? As everybody knows, but the left pretends not to, the Arizona law does not allow police to stop random people and demand papers. It's been clearly pointed out so many times that it is laughable, that you have to have been in the commission of an actual crime and been caught, for them to ask for identification if they have reasonable suspicion that you might be an illegal immigrant. There are no provisions for accosting Maria-Sanchez-Montoya-Pedron-Castilla as she's walking down the street with her kid to go get an ice cream, as Obama clearly lied about and as you seem to believe. The Arizona law simply calls for the enforcement of an already existing Federal law, in a manner clearly specified as detailed above. Those that, at this point in the game, Godwin the conversation are dishonest to the extreme and should be ignored.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I have worked videography and documentation of police activity here in Eugene that makes me doubt your assumption police to a woman or a man will stay within the purview of the law. We get immigrants in the form of kids who are homeless and who migrate to different cities on the left coast, and during one round um up and brand um exercises I was grabbed for walking on a small part of the Eugene Flower Home that is sidewalk that was private property, but indistinguishable as such as it is part of public sidewalk. As I was handcuffed of course I went limp and told them if they wanted me, they could carry me. The cop pulled out his videocamera in response to my girl friend using hers' to record the scene. He loudly trumpeted how he could get me to stand if he used the fingers in the nose pain compliance move. Instead of that, he tried to get me to struggle by slyly leaning over and blowing in my ear. The exercise was to get me to struggle to gain an additional charge against me; and I am here to tell you, having a man;s stubble on your face as he blows in your ear is highly antagonizing, I still hate that SOB years later; with feeling. Of course I didn't give him satisfaction. I said, and I paraphrase,"Oh baby, you are an ugly Little dwarf, but, but ,but, I believe I'm feeling something stirring." He stopped, the video he did disappeared as they knew it was worthless. I was convicted of trespass in municipal court and in Circuit court on the retrial it was dismissed. Some day he'll retire, and we'll talk about the good old days too, I am sure, because he still denies this. So I do not believe you. There are plenty of Assholerona pigs willing to parse the reality of situations to give a Hector Hell. I would also point out that the vast majority of immigrants obey the law and are hard working. And your use of a rhetorical magnifying glass to villainize all of them because of the actions of the few do not engender confidence in your words that you are concerned about equal treatment under the law. The law must go. The law will go.
The cops can ask for a CCW permit under certain circumstances. Under your logic then, cops routinely walk around demanding to see people's CCW permits. You're hyperventilating. This law is common sense, clearly defined and any abuses would be immediately reported in order to stop it, so I'm betting that they'll follow it to the tee. If they're illegal immigrants they are not, by definition, obeying the law. It's kind of part of the criteria to be an illegal immigrant, if you think about it. Sorry that it bothers you that illegals might have to go back home. Do you register protests with the Mexican government over their treatment of immigrants, btw?
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Heh, I have been rudely disarmed before getting to the where is my CCW permit part of things. Being a long hair with tattoos and piercings can make that interesting. I'm here to tell you. People by definition fudge on how well they obey the law all the time. And not being in compliance with laws and regulations have different levels of how bad what is being transgressed is. I am not hardly bothered by someone in the U.S. looking desperate for work and a better life is as serious as mugging or killing someone, but you seem to. The emotional stridency hurts your cause every bit as much as that of the Azlan people's screeching hurt theirs'. I would like to see far less people coming in, and want an amnesty that sends back criminals and ne'er do wells, as well as giving those who are talented at something we need people for and who work hard and give society something a chance to qualify to stay here and become citizens should they want to. And I fully recognize that when amnesty passes, and it will, it will be harsher then I would like to see, as your side of the issue will have to get something in that package, or it can't possibly pass. That's how the political process works when things function as they should that is.
Nope, closed borders are fine by me. Though I do want the INS stops on routes like I-20/I-40 ended.
Improve your reading skills. I've not claimed that the two scenarios are equivalent (good workers, criminal gangs). In fact, I explained that to you in a post last Friday. You should take the time to read and comprehend before you throw out clearly silly claims. Emotional stridency? I'm simply stating the facts of the matter. You're the one going off on a bender about implementation of a reasonable law. My side? LOL Again, my side? *rolleyes* You clearly have no idea what I advocate or support and are reverting to convenient labels to help you understand what you don't understand. By the way, do you go down to Mexico to protest their draconian immigration laws and enforcement? You didn't answer that from the previous post, so you must have missed it.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I always am civil enough to grant I may be plowing the road with the devastating fire emanating from my response too hotly,* point noted and I'll pay close to attention to detail in reading your posts. As far as your "well, the other kids are meaner" defense goes, I am posting on our treatment of illegal immigrants. I'll save my comments for Mexican wrongs against immigrants for a thread specifically about that. * Statement has self deprecatory humor in it, don't get too excited and it too literal.
weasel When do you work? What kind of job do you have that allows you to post 16hrs/day? Face it, you're a lying stooge of the DNC spreading the party line for minimum wage The weasel - one welfare check from eating out of a dumpster with the rest of the RATS ROTFLMAO at you
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I'm amused that my periodic forays into the Internet look like I am tethered to a desk top to ya. You first, where are you from, and where do you work? Come on now, you know my home town and name. Don't be so chicken.
There's no such thing as "undocumented immigrants" in this country. The undocumented are illegal alien migrants. Illegal alien migrants are invaders. The federal government does not have the power to abdicate its duty to protect America from those invaders or any other and retain legitimacy.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
McCain was once a champion of comprehensive immigration reform
#2. To: Ferret (#0)
"The federal government is abdicating its duty on the border. Arizona politicians are pandering to public fear," The Arizona Republic said in a full-page editorial. "The result is a state law that intimidates Latinos while doing nothing to curb illegal immigration."
#3. To: JRiggs, buckeroo (#2)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#4. To: Ferret (#3)
get comprehensive amnesty passed
#5. To: buckeroo (#1)
Nine Students Arrested for Chaining themselves to AZ Capitol Doors
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#6. To: buckeroo, Ferret, 4 (#4)
#7. To: Ferret (#3)
The Federal government needs to stop stalling and get comprehensive amnesty passed
#8. To: Ferret (#3)
#9. To: Ferret (#3)
#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#9)
(Edited)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#11. To: Ferret (#10)
(Edited)
I would also point out that the vast majority of immigrants obey the law and are hard working.
#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#11)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#8)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#14. To: Ferret (#12)
I am not hardly bothered by someone in the U.S. looking desperate for work and a better life is as serious as mugging or killing someone, but you seem to.
The emotional stridency hurts your cause every bit as much as that of the Azlan people's screeching hurt theirs'.
And I fully recognize that when amnesty passes, and it will, it will be harsher then I would like to see, as your side of the issue will have to get something in that package, or it can't possibly pass.
#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#16. To: Ferret, Mikey the Unemployed Welfare weasel (#15)
#17. To: Flintlock (#16)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#18. To: Ferret (#0)
undocumented immigrants
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest