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Title: Ariz.'s largest paper: Pols failed on immigration
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100502 ... _us/us_immigration_enforcement
Published: May 2, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-05-02 17:44:40 by Ferret
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Views: 390
Comments: 18
PHOENIX – Arizona's largest newspaper criticized U.S. Sens. John McCain and Jon Kyl and a host of other elected officials in a rare front-page editorial Sunday, saying the politicians have failed to find solutions to illegal immigration. The state has become the target of calls for boycotts since adopting a law that requires local and state law enforcement officers to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally. "The federal government is abdicating its duty on the border. Arizona politicians are pandering to public fear," The Arizona Republic said in a full-page editorial. "The result is a state law that intimidates Latinos while doing nothing to curb illegal immigration." Doug MacEachern, an editorial writer for the Republic, said the newspaper has put editorials on the front page over the years but this was the first time one filled the front page. "It's of sufficient importance that we thought it required something very over-the-top to grab people's attention," he told The Associated Press on Sunday. The editorial appeared one day after thousands marched against the law in Phoenix and Tucson, Chicago, New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, among other cities. McCain was once a champion of comprehensive immigration reform, but has abandoned his principles while he fights off a GOP primary challenge this year from former U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth, the Republic said. Kyl has also dropped efforts for comprehensive reform and is no longer willing to work with Democrats on the issue now that he's a member of the Senate Republic leadership, the paper said. "We already had several editorials setting out our objections to the new law, and this addresses the umbrella issue of a lack of leadership that really has played out over a number of years," MacEachern said. The editorial also named Gov. Jan Brewer, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and former governor and current Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. "Ensconced in a Democratic administration, she forgot all the arguments she once used to demand the Bush administration address immigration reform and reimburse Arizona for the costs of the broken border," the Republic said. "Put in charge of Obama's effort to craft immigration reform, she couldn't get the thing out of neutral." Napolitano, speaking on "Fox News Sunday," said more resources were being poured into securing the border than ever before. "Every resource that can be put at that border is being put at the border. Every security is being made," Napolitano said. "But we still need comprehensive immigration reform." The newspaper called for reform that allows for current undocumented immigrants to earn citizenship, secures the borders and puts tough sanctions in place for employers who hire undocumented immigrants. ___ On the Net: The Arizona Republic: http://www.azcentral.com
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#2. To: Ferret (#0)
I think I read this same editorial in the LA Times. I'm sure if I looked I could also find it in the Portland Oregonian, the Seattle Times, and just about every other newspaper in the country. Actually, I think I also read it the last time immigration became a national topic. If anything ever was done by the Feds to curb illegal immigration, these same papers would then be demanding that the states ignore it and pass their own laws.
The Federal government needs to stop stalling and get comprehensive amnesty passed that is responsible and fair to naive born citizens who want accountability, and gives hard working, productive immigrants the tools they need to work toward citizenship, sends unqualified people back and sets standards for seasonal workers. The law in Arizonan is irresponsible and reactionary, and the only good I see it as having done is to put a long stalled issue on the front burner where it belongs
Cute propaganda poster. Question: When you get pulled over for speeding, does the police officer ask for any, oh I don't know, identification? Question: If you're in the process of robbing a home, and get caught and the police show up, do they check your identification (driver's license, whathaveyou)? As everybody knows, but the left pretends not to, the Arizona law does not allow police to stop random people and demand papers. It's been clearly pointed out so many times that it is laughable, that you have to have been in the commission of an actual crime and been caught, for them to ask for identification if they have reasonable suspicion that you might be an illegal immigrant. There are no provisions for accosting Maria-Sanchez-Montoya-Pedron-Castilla as she's walking down the street with her kid to go get an ice cream, as Obama clearly lied about and as you seem to believe. The Arizona law simply calls for the enforcement of an already existing Federal law, in a manner clearly specified as detailed above. Those that, at this point in the game, Godwin the conversation are dishonest to the extreme and should be ignored.
I have worked videography and documentation of police activity here in Eugene that makes me doubt your assumption police to a woman or a man will stay within the purview of the law. We get immigrants in the form of kids who are homeless and who migrate to different cities on the left coast, and during one round um up and brand um exercises I was grabbed for walking on a small part of the Eugene Flower Home that is sidewalk that was private property, but indistinguishable as such as it is part of public sidewalk. As I was handcuffed of course I went limp and told them if they wanted me, they could carry me. The cop pulled out his videocamera in response to my girl friend using hers' to record the scene. He loudly trumpeted how he could get me to stand if he used the fingers in the nose pain compliance move. Instead of that, he tried to get me to struggle by slyly leaning over and blowing in my ear. The exercise was to get me to struggle to gain an additional charge against me; and I am here to tell you, having a man;s stubble on your face as he blows in your ear is highly antagonizing, I still hate that SOB years later; with feeling. Of course I didn't give him satisfaction. I said, and I paraphrase,"Oh baby, you are an ugly Little dwarf, but, but ,but, I believe I'm feeling something stirring." He stopped, the video he did disappeared as they knew it was worthless. I was convicted of trespass in municipal court and in Circuit court on the retrial it was dismissed. Some day he'll retire, and we'll talk about the good old days too, I am sure, because he still denies this. So I do not believe you. There are plenty of Assholerona pigs willing to parse the reality of situations to give a Hector Hell. I would also point out that the vast majority of immigrants obey the law and are hard working. And your use of a rhetorical magnifying glass to villainize all of them because of the actions of the few do not engender confidence in your words that you are concerned about equal treatment under the law. The law must go. The law will go.
The cops can ask for a CCW permit under certain circumstances. Under your logic then, cops routinely walk around demanding to see people's CCW permits. You're hyperventilating. This law is common sense, clearly defined and any abuses would be immediately reported in order to stop it, so I'm betting that they'll follow it to the tee. If they're illegal immigrants they are not, by definition, obeying the law. It's kind of part of the criteria to be an illegal immigrant, if you think about it. Sorry that it bothers you that illegals might have to go back home. Do you register protests with the Mexican government over their treatment of immigrants, btw?
Heh, I have been rudely disarmed before getting to the where is my CCW permit part of things. Being a long hair with tattoos and piercings can make that interesting. I'm here to tell you. People by definition fudge on how well they obey the law all the time. And not being in compliance with laws and regulations have different levels of how bad what is being transgressed is. I am not hardly bothered by someone in the U.S. looking desperate for work and a better life is as serious as mugging or killing someone, but you seem to. The emotional stridency hurts your cause every bit as much as that of the Azlan people's screeching hurt theirs'. I would like to see far less people coming in, and want an amnesty that sends back criminals and ne'er do wells, as well as giving those who are talented at something we need people for and who work hard and give society something a chance to qualify to stay here and become citizens should they want to. And I fully recognize that when amnesty passes, and it will, it will be harsher then I would like to see, as your side of the issue will have to get something in that package, or it can't possibly pass. That's how the political process works when things function as they should that is.
Improve your reading skills. I've not claimed that the two scenarios are equivalent (good workers, criminal gangs). In fact, I explained that to you in a post last Friday. You should take the time to read and comprehend before you throw out clearly silly claims. Emotional stridency? I'm simply stating the facts of the matter. You're the one going off on a bender about implementation of a reasonable law. My side? LOL Again, my side? *rolleyes* You clearly have no idea what I advocate or support and are reverting to convenient labels to help you understand what you don't understand. By the way, do you go down to Mexico to protest their draconian immigration laws and enforcement? You didn't answer that from the previous post, so you must have missed it.
#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#14)
I always am civil enough to grant I may be plowing the road with the devastating fire emanating from my response too hotly,* point noted and I'll pay close to attention to detail in reading your posts. As far as your "well, the other kids are meaner" defense goes, I am posting on our treatment of illegal immigrants. I'll save my comments for Mexican wrongs against immigrants for a thread specifically about that. * Statement has self deprecatory humor in it, don't get too excited and it too literal.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"The federal government is abdicating its duty on the border. Arizona politicians are pandering to public fear," The Arizona Republic said in a full-page editorial. "The result is a state law that intimidates Latinos while doing nothing to curb illegal immigration."
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#9. To: Ferret (#3)
#10. To: SonOfLiberty (#9)
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#11. To: Ferret (#10)
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I would also point out that the vast majority of immigrants obey the law and are hard working.
#12. To: SonOfLiberty (#11)
#14. To: Ferret (#12)
I am not hardly bothered by someone in the U.S. looking desperate for work and a better life is as serious as mugging or killing someone, but you seem to.
The emotional stridency hurts your cause every bit as much as that of the Azlan people's screeching hurt theirs'.
And I fully recognize that when amnesty passes, and it will, it will be harsher then I would like to see, as your side of the issue will have to get something in that package, or it can't possibly pass.
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