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Title: Is The Gulf Oil Spill The False Flag We've Been Expecting?
Source: 4um
URL Source: http://N/A
Published: May 3, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-05-03 13:38:42 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Oil, Spill, False, Flag
Views: 847
Comments: 68

The question I want to present for discussion and thought is: Is the gulf oil spill an intentional event?

My thought process runs something like this:

Another 911 fake terror event would not, at this time, work. Such an event might actually spark an open revolution, and it would have to be on a scale large enough to eclipse 911 in order to have enough impact to shock people into numbness again. As well it would have to be flawless this time as the 911 event has been so thoroughly shown to have been an inside job that they, the Banksters and their flunkies, dare leave no fingerprints this time.

I note that "Halliburton" (as well as BP - British Petroleum), a known operation of the NWO cabal, had been "working" on the rig at the time the blowout and fire happened. From what I have read one of the things they were servicing is the mechanism to shut the flow off in case of emergency. The "failsafe" did not work and is unresponsive, allegedly, to any attempt to trigger it.

Also surfacing is the picture of the aluminum heli-pad with a hole burned in it. It is unlikely that an oil fire would do that. However, Magnesium does burn hot enough.

At this point in time, according to "leaked" reports, the "gusher", under tons of pressure, could increase in volume. We already have a slick the size of New Jersey. There is high likelihood that this spill will have a global impact affecting shorelines around the planet. One of the results is likely contamination, and decimation, of fish and seafood stocks. This will, in turn, have an impact on the global food supply resulting in famine in some areas, decreased economic activity, and increased death rates among shoreline communities (and indirectly in areas away from the shoreline which dependent upon the seafood industry either for food or economically).

Another impact is on the global oil/energy supply which will result in less supply and higher prices. This in turn affects agriculture and food prices. It also affects the ability to bring crops to market.

In turn this will affect industrial production and related jobs.

An environmental catastrophe of this magnitude will have a rippling affect throughout the globe and seems "tailor made" for those pushing a politically based enviromentally apocalyptic agenda.

Thus, given the participants in this disaster, I am floating the question: Was it an accident or by design?

At this point I draw no conclusions, and am making no assertion that it was intentional, merely that the players and consequences make it worthy of a closer examination. It could simply have been an "accident". Then again it seems plausible that it might not have been an "accident".

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   13:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   13:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I don't know. Do you mean by Israel?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-05-03   13:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#0)

While I could certainly entertain that they'll use this to ram through Cap & Tax, thereby shutting down the economy over the course of about 5 to 10 years (the legislation I mean), sure, I don't think necessarily makes this a false flag. As more evidence comes to light over the coming weeks and months I'll examine them and revise my opinion accordingly.

But yes, without question, accident or not, they'll use this to do the last deed they'll need to do to finally eradicate once and for all us pesky Americans and make us into a poverty stricken third world nation (or several third world nations if there's internal war). Would it surprise me if this was orchestrated? No, not really. The world is so based on lies and destruction and Machiavellian mindsets, and so devoid of honesty, goodwill, and decent actions that anything is possible now.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-03   13:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itistoolate (#3)

Israel is a "Cat's Paw" of the Rothschilds who run the country. But no I wasn't thinking Israel. Israel's influence in our government gives them a lot of prominence for their malefactions, but I am thinking more as a result of the motivations of the top tier and their control/depopulation agenda. Halliburton ties to Cheney to Bush to the people who tell the Bushes what to do - which is the Rockefellers and Rothschilds who are the real heads of the hydra. They use a variety of tools for different ends. Israel is only one of those tools.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   13:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#0)

If it's a false flag, how do the elitists plan to blame the U.S. population for it.

It happened in international waters, we are suffering by the attack.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-05-03   13:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#0)

These days, I dismiss nothing out of hand.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-03   13:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#5) (Edited)

Israel is only one of those tools.

yup, israel's a tool.

a tool with a mind of its own, that just happens to dominate american politics, media and foreign policy...

a tool with a mind of its own, that also just happens to own a few hundred nukes...

a tool with a mind of its own, that has threatened to use those nukes in a suicidal act of vengeance as it goes under.

are you saying that israel's samson option is a bluff, and that israeli leadership will be willing to abandon israel when they get their marching orders from alex jones' new world order?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   13:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

The world is so based on lies and destruction and Machiavellian mindsets, and so devoid of honesty, goodwill, and decent actions that anything is possible now.

Which in a nutshell is why I am floating this as a possible hypothesis. They, the Rotchilds and Rockefuckers, are psychotically evil enough to stage such an event. I am not saying though that it was - simply that it is very convenient for their agenda. They have been needing "something" to catalyze pushing forward their control agenda. So, I am just asking "cui bono"? And then looking at whether they have the capability - which is yes, and the sheer psychotically evil mindset to do it - also yes. However, I'm not asserting it as the explanation simply that it is well within the realm of possibility.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   13:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#9)

They, the Rotchilds and Rockefuckers, are psychotically evil enough to stage such an event.

who was it that said they needed "a new pearl harbor" just before they assumed positions from which they could make their "new pearl harbor" happen?

rothschilds? ...rockefellers?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I don't think it was a false flag in the true sense of the term because it's not an attack. It was either an accident or sabotage made to look like an accident.

I haven't been paying near enough attention to say if it was sabotage or not.

I figure there won't be as much evidence as 9/11 to let us know if it was intentional or not.

Time will tell, I guess.

By the way, 3 months seems like a ridiculous amount of time to fix it.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-03   14:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#0)

There is high likelihood that this spill will have a global impact affecting shorelines around the planet. One of the results is likely contamination, and decimation, of fish and seafood stocks. This will, in turn, have an impact on the global food supply resulting in famine in some areas, decreased economic activity, and increased death rates among shoreline communities (and indirectly in areas away from the shoreline which dependent upon the seafood industry either for food or economically).

Another impact is on the global oil/energy supply which will result in less supply and higher prices. This in turn affects agriculture and food prices. It also affects the ability to bring crops to market.

In turn this will affect industrial production and related jobs.

An environmental catastrophe of this magnitude will have a rippling affect throughout the globe and seems "tailor made" for those pushing a politically based enviromentally apocalyptic agenda.

I never thought of that, but it is very possible.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-03   14:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: groundresonance (#8)

Israel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild Crime Family. The ties are too numerous to list, but just take a look at the Israeli Supreme Court building designed and donated by the Rothschilds (written by a Jew but hosted on the "birdman's" website): Israeli Illuminazi Supreme Court.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

Obama is on record as saying that he loves the idea of $4 and higher gasoline and wishes it would stay there or even increase. So my guess is, $4 and higher.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-03   14:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#15)

Israel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rothschild Crime Family

so israeli leaders will abandon their dreams of an ashkenazi supremacist state and move back to the bronx when they're ordered to do so by the rothschilds.

good deal

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#0)

the whole thing looks suspicious to me.

'It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand.'

- Apache proverb

gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-05-03   14:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

Anyone atune to what the price of oil/gas is doing as a result?

It shouldn't impact it nearly as much as say seafood will be impacted since it's merely one tap.

However, it also shuts down the largest oil tanker unloading terminal in the U.S.. That will have an impact.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: wudidiz (#13)

There is high likelihood that this spill will have a global impact affecting shorelines around the planet. One of the results is likely contamination, and decimation, of fish and seafood stocks. This will, in turn, have an impact on the global food supply resulting in famine in some areas, decreased economic activity, and increased death rates among shoreline communities (and indirectly in areas away from the shoreline which dependent upon the seafood industry either for food or economically).

Another impact is on the global oil/energy supply which will result in less supply and higher prices. This in turn affects agriculture and food prices. It also affects the ability to bring crops to market.

In turn this will affect industrial production and related jobs.

An environmental catastrophe of this magnitude will have a rippling affect throughout the globe and seems "tailor made" for those pushing a politically based enviromentally apocalyptic agenda.

I never thought of that, but it is very possible.

It is not just possible, but probable.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: gengis gandhi (#18)

the whole thing looks suspicious to me.

Agreed. However, we have to be careful in jumping to conclusions. It could have just been what the cover story says - maintenance short cutting which resulted in a catastrophe.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#19)

it also shuts down the largest oil tanker unloading terminal in the U.S..

All operations were normal at the LOOP, a deepwater port off of Louisiana that provides tanker offloading and receives oil from underwater pipelines, said Barb Hestermann, a spokeswoman, in a telephone interview.

The LOOP handles about 10 percent of the nation’s imports and 10 percent of domestic production via pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico operated by Shell and BP, she said.

“We don’t anticipate being impacted,” Hestermann said. “We’re quite a bit west of the oil spill.”

BP Spill Threatens Gulf of Mexico Oil, Gas Operations (Update2) bloomberg May 03, 2010

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

The world is so based on lies and destruction and Machiavellian mindsets, and so devoid of honesty, goodwill, and decent actions that anything is possible now.

You are confusing Machiavelli with Nietzsche.

Machiavelli understood human nature. Though his work dealt with cunning, what is usually forgotten is that even though Machiavelli said it was better to be "feared than loved", he also said to the effect to never all let the people hate you because then they will then rebel.

Among things, he said don't sleep with other men's wives. And a prosperous servant is more loyal than a servant with nothing.

And never bargain with someone more powerful than you unless you have no other choice.

Nietzsche on the other hand took a "strongest should survive" approach, that mass murder of the 'weak' was okay, and that "God was dead".

Machiavelli was more about stability and practically of a political structure and nation. While, Nietzsche was more about domination, death, and destruction.

The elitists unfortunately follow Nietzsche, instead of Machiavelli. That is a tragedy because it will mean more death and destruction before the elitists are stopped.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-05-03   14:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: groundresonance (#22)

Thanks for the update. Only time will tell because one of things leaking out is that the spill is still worse than has been publicly admitted.

Leaked report: Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher 30 Apr 2010 'The following is not public' document --A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. "The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#20)

I never thought of that, but it is very possible.

It is not just possible, but probable.

The impact it will have is probable?

Very.

What I meant is possible is if it was intentional. I see now I didn't make that clear at all.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)

why, if abiotic oil is so abundant, are these oil companies going to such lengths to get oil?

couldnt they drill in the outskirts of houston and eliminate all this folderol?

i mean, if oil is so abundant...?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SonOfLiberty (#16)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-03   14:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PaulCJ (#23)

No, I'm citing Machiavelli because those who engage in these kinds of tactics generally are referred to as Machiavellian. While it's fine to pick a nit about a historical misunderstanding, and it's always good to learn things, I have to use language that conveys the message I wish for it to convey, to the largest number of people. I would add, as an off topic, that Nietzsche is almost always misunderstood and cited for attitudes that he wouldn't have condoned.

Sometimes I'll even call facial tissue as an object "Kleenex". :)

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-03   14:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#24)

Why don't they just shut it off? Close it?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: PaulCJ (#23)

The elitists unfortunately follow Nietzsche, instead of Machiavelli. That is a tragedy because it will mean more death and destruction before the elitists are stopped.

Among the ultimate failings of Nietzshe is that "no man is an island". In his neurotic myopia he mistook the one dimensional welfare of the individual with ultimate good and survival. Yes, the individual needs to survive, but in that survival he lies within an interdependant web of self, family, group, humanity, animal and plant kind, the physical universe, self as a spirit, and God. All must be in alignment for survival and welfare to be optimized. Nietzsche was a short sighted crank.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wudidiz (#29)

Why don't they just shut it off? Close it?

Because they can't, or so it is alleged. The emergency shut off valve, located at the deepwater wellhead, (and worked on by Helliburton) is not responding. So, the oil, under tons of pressure geologically, is being spurted up through the hole in the bedrock (the well) and flooding into the ocean.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: PaulCJ, SonOfLiberty (#23)

Nietsche (said) ... ...that "God was dead"

I think that was said by a character in one of his stories or dialogues.

On a bathroom wall at the University:

God is Dead ~ Nietsche

Nietsche is Dead ~ God


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: wudidiz (#25)

What I meant is possible is if it was intentional.

Got it. No problemo

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#31)

As I understand it, it was activated and did actually work, but then the rig itself collapsed and it gave way. At least that's what I heard.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-03   14:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#34)

Got it. Last report I saw it was not responding.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#31)

The emergency shut off valve, located at the deepwater wellhead, (and worked on by Helliburton) is not responding.

Hmmm...


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-03   14:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#33)

guess who said the following....

For the world as a whole, oil companies are expected to keep finding and developing enough oil to offset our seventy one million plus barrel a day of oil depletion, but also to meet new demand.

By some estimates there will be an average of two per cent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead along with conservatively a three per cent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day.

So where is the oil going to come from?

would that maybe explain why these guys are drilling 200 miles offshore in two miles of water?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#35)

Well sure, it's not responding *now*. :)

I was just noting that they did activate it initially before this became a story, so it's not like they sat there on their thumbs.

This is all based on things I've heard though, it must be considered speculative at best at this point.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-03   14:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#35) (Edited)

the same guy said the following, in the same speech...

While many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world’s oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies...

how hard would it have been to talk this guy into an operation that would give him access to middle east oil, the acquisition costs ---in blood and money--- to be paid by the american taxpayer?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-03   14:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SonOfLiberty (#38)

This is all based on things I've heard though, it must be considered speculative at best at this point.

Understood. The situation is still evolving. However, the rule of thumb on events like this is that the most truthful information usually is contained in the early reports before they put a lit on it and control the information flow.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-03   14:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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