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Title: Obama’s Boys Call in Riot Cops on Tea Party Protestors (Chavez Would Be Proud)
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Published: May 4, 2010
Author: Doug Giles
Post Date: 2010-05-04 07:44:58 by Eric Stratton
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Obama’s Boys Call in Riot Cops on Tea Party Protestors (Chavez Would Be Proud) Somebody help me here. What kind of ominous situation requires local law enforcement to dispatch their Darth Vader look-alike SWAT units to keep the peace or kick some criminal butt? I’m guessing it has to be a SNAFU’d type of thang that regular cops can’t handle which requires special weapons and tactics, correct? The reason I’m asking this is because of the events of last week in which riot police were sent out to two different locales on two completely different types of crowds. One I understand, but the other has left me a little discombobulated and a tad discomfited. The first mob that riot cops were called out for was the one in Phoenix comprised of thousands of out-of-control illegal Mexicans who were POed at the fact that Arizona finally wants to treat them like they’re illegal. Imagine that. Yep, I get why the SWAT dudes from PPD rolled out for that melee. The mass of protesting Mexicans were out of whack, grabbing their crotches in defiance of our laws, smearing refried bean swastikas on government windows, flipping American patriots off, trashing and destroying property, and cursing in TexMex at the Arizonans who want our immigration laws upheld and who are sick of the costly mayhem these illegals have brought to their beautiful state. Let’s see, what else did the criminal aliens do to solicit the Phoenix PD’s riot police presence? Man, I know there was something else they did. What was it? Come on, Doug, think man, think! Oh yeah, I remember: They pelted Phoenix’s finest with bottles and trash. Yeah, that was it. Oh, and of course the location of their protest was completely trashed after their ridiculous display of unrighteous outrage. Hey, Julio … way to further endear Americans to your earthly plight, el stupido. I guess Phil Collins was right; it’s no fun being an illegal alien. The other crowd that got SWAT called down on them last week was in Quincy, Illinois—a two-hundred member Tea Party that mainly consisted of peaceful, blue-haired old ladies in Depends singing “God Bless America” outside of the venue where His Highness was reading a teleprompter about how great he is and how he plans to further whiz on the Constitution. Yep, in a scene right out of some B-grade Orwellian flick, the tamest and nicest little old nanas and middle-class couples had Quincy’s Robo-Cops dispatched on them to quell… the, uh … uh … orderly protest and … the … uh … um … patriotic singing and … er … the … the American flag waving. Boy does that make Quincy and BHO look bad, or what? Y’know, what I have gathered from my SWAT friends down here in Miami and what I have watched throughout the years on TV and on the big screen is that the SWAT card only gets played when things are severely jacked up (as in the Phoenix fiasco), but it seems as if the insane-in-the-membrane element was missing a wee little bit from the quaint Quincy rally. But it got the same treatment as Phoenix. Now that’s weird. Here are my questions: Did the Quincy tea partiers represent a high-risk op that regular officers couldn’t handle? That’s an option, even though that place looked like Barney Fife could have manned it without ever extracting his lone bullet from his left shirt pocket. Who knows? Maybe Mr. Whipple had an underwear bomb and was going to light his junk on fire after Obama’s speech? Who can say? Maybe Mr. Rogers had secret hostages sequestered in the Dairy Queen freezer that Quincy SWAT was called in to extract. Or, maybe, just maybe, Grandma Moses posed a terror threat with those long-ass knitting needles she carts around and her high-speed electric wheel chair? I know … it was the possibility that Floyd the barber would show up to that event secretly armed with his straight razor that required Quincy’s cops to send out an elite paramilitary tactical unit with assault weapons, stun grenades, high-end body armor, and armored vehicles! Gosh, maybe. Who knows? I hope that there was that type of over-the-top reasonable cause for Quincy’s cops to roll like that because if there wasn’t that little display of overt force is beginning to smack of Chavez’s Venez-frickin’-uela to me. Lastly, if I were a cop and my superiors wanted me to put on stormtrooper gear and march against salt of the earth patriots like those in Quincy, Illinois, I’d tell them no, and if they didn’t like it then they could stick my pointy metal badge up their confused and chunky backside.
Doug Giles
Tuesday, May 04, 2010
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
The article is about what Obama is doing, right now today. I don't think "neocons" come into play, really. The writer didn't seem to me to be a neocon in any fashion, but maybe I missed something. The "IF" statement about being a cop kind of tells me that he is not. He says he has SWAT friends, but then I have friends (and a few family members) who are/were cops (and soldiers, and Marines). That doesn't make somebody one thing or the other, politically. It's ok to criticize Obama and his actions fully without having to reference the boogeymen from the last administration without any direct link to them. Dems were being just as stupid during Clinton's presidency, when they sent out thugs in tanks to burn down the buildings of religious people with them inside. If you want to get really butch, call out Clinton and his neo-liberal (progressive) folks who love to call out cops to kill honest people, I say. ;)
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Oh? So the Branch Davidians, their murder was avenged by millions of people? How about Weaver? Where were the millions lining up to protest SWAT when they executed his family with sniper rifles? Fact is, the strong arm tactics with no counter-protests started in a large part with Clinton. Dubya certainly took advantage of the sentiment of apathy, no question, but let's not forget the inaction/apathy before his reign. It didn't "all start on 9/11". Far from it. That's an invalid argument technique. It's saying "you're too smart to not agree with me", which means "if you disagree with me, you're not smart". Sorry, doesn't cut it. Especially since, as pointed out, Clinton (and King George I) got the nation nice and used to seeing SWAT/military outright murdering Americans on American soil and accomplished it without any real protest whatsoever besides a few of us wing-ding libertarians that were easily brushed aside.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Which is not revealed, at all, in the article. Ergo, it seems rather out of place to go screaming about "neocons!" when the article doesn't even hint at them in any way shape or form. I have a forum friend on another forum. She is quite adamant about her disapproval of abortion (which I agree with, just as I agree with your dislike of neocons). However, every debate (or close to it) she manages to squeeze in some way of relating it to abortion. So, for example, if you were to talk about Goldman Sachs, she'd bring up (first post usually) "you know, Goldman Sachs financed xyz abortion clinic!". If you bring up, say, coffee, she'd say "Most coffee comes from central and south America, where they have strong laws against abortion!" And if you were to discuss Jello brand gelatin, she'd say "It's only in a nation that condones infanticide, like the united States, that a horror like Jello could come to be!" There comes a point, at least in my view, when it's ok not to talk about abortion. When it's relevant to the discussion, by all means bring it up, go for it. But when we get to talking about Jello Shots recipes, it's ok to not have to discuss babies being vacuumed out of wombs. You know?
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Is the author of this article so naive as to think the police departments of the nation, and the politics that order them about, haven't been using the police as jack booted thugs for years now? This guy must have been living in some time warp for the past 30 years.
Now that, I agree with. Man, I remember them getting us used to the idea of being serfs with shows like "S.W.A.T." in the 1970's. Prior to that of course was Kent State, not to mention the bonus marchers after WWI, and of course Lincoln's well known penchant for sending out goons and thugs to arrest anybody who said anything bad about his actions. It's true for those that most Americans didn't take well to them, but they were initial attempts to convert us back into something resembling "subjects".
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I've enjoyed exactly two "cop" shows over the years. Dragnet was one and the other was Columbo, so your point is well taken when compared to these. The absolute worst was Cops on Fox? I knew immediately that was the beginning of the final conditioning process.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Good choices. Dragnet was cops doing what cops should be doing, investigating actual real crimes and trying to bring actual real hooligans to justice. They did tend to go off a bit on the druggies on occasion, but it wasn't a staple theme on the show. Columbo was just good fun. The nice thing though was that there were a myriad of *anti-government* type shows, as well as "normal people, no government mentioned" shows to balance things. Today, well, not so much. It's all cops/lawyers/politicians 24/7 on the tube. Yuck. The show "Cops" is an abomination and it's sad that it got more than ten viewers. Reno 911 does/did a nice send up of it, so there is that I guess.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Oh? Ok, so we have on the one hand a bunch of people doing no harm to anybody, who were murdered and burned alive by government on live television. On the other hand, the story we're discussing is a SWAT team showing up and doing nothing at a tea party-esque rally of old and middle class people. Yeah, I can see how the later is far worse than the former. *eyeroll* LOL! Oh, I must have misread the part where you mentioned this: So the 9/11 you were talking about was...what exactly? 9/11/1943? Or what? But that in no way counters my assertion that the strong arming of innocent normal Americans and the acceptance of it by most didn't start on 9/11. Do you see anybody out protesting the SWAT teams showing up at the blue hair convention? No? Why? Because, well, they're being molded to look like "the enemy". Just like the Davidians. And Weaver. And everybody else in history. There we go. It was a civil discussion, you're the one injecting invective at this point where none was offered to you. Disagreements or different viewpoints being presented are not attacks. Relax. 9/11/1943? Just trying to clarify. That's another ad hominem "If you don't agree with me, you're dumb". If you wish to remain objective, it might help if you removed stuff like that. I've in no way attempted to ad hominem you, I'd appreciate the reciprocal please. It should be noted that, for the record, I've already stated that I share your disdain of neocons. I've clearly stated countless times on the forum my hatred of the Patriot act, TSA and other Dubya constitutional violations. So this isn't the disagreement you seem to think that it is. My only point, was that you appear to want to turn every discussion about Jello Shot recipes into a discussion about vacuuming babies out of wombs. In other words, sometimes it's ok to discuss the content of the article without yelling "Bush! 9/11! Patriot act!" Really, it is. Jethro's points were far more on mark. This kind of treatment isn't a new thing, and the culture has been prepped for it since at least the 1970's. What they did to the Davidians, they're now doing to us, iow, making us slowly but surely "the enemies". It's a long, gradual process, the blame of which can be laid at many, many feet. Obama, actually, has not only not rescinded any of the Dubya violations, he's expanded them AND turned the tyrant's gaze inward towards a myriad of new abuses.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
That's actually been going on quite strongly since at least the 1990's. I distinctly remember talking to my wife about it in the 1990's. Commercial after commercial about cops/lawyers. Show after show about cops/lawyers/politicians all being glorified and lionized. It was revolting. In fact, it was one of the prime reasons, perhaps the very reason, I more or less turned off the television around 1999-ish (excepting MST3K, which I watched until it ended, and the occasional Reno 911 I catch now and then, or Mythbusters/Dirty Jobs). Recall, Cops premiered in all of its horror in 1989. Truly it has expanded since then, no doubt, but the drive geared up full tilt, in earnest in the 1990's, that much I know for certain. Wasn't Nixon the one who really brought that meme to life and started this insanity? As I recall, his campaign slogan(s) all revolved around "Law and Order!" and were eagerly sucked up by folks in the 1970's. Only when the conversations have nothing to do with "9/11!" per se. I'm speaking of 2001, not 1943, to clarify. :)
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
You're quite touchy when I don't immediately agree with your every word. That's sad, it would be hoped that you'd have room for reasonable discussion without ad hominem and stomping off in a huff. It's especially strange since I don't disagree with anything you say about 9/11/Dubya and never have. Odd. Oh well, it's just the internet. Hopefully you'll come back and take something of value from what I'm trying to communicate to you without it causing anger or disdain. Cheers.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
I would have to agree that those protesting the Arizona law are doing so in a way that hurts their message, and I have yet to see a Tea Party that deserved the riot squad treatment. I have no patience with flag burners, and have forcibly repossessed flags from people doing so in demonstrations. One kid who was skateboarding by me with the organic representation of our country dragging behind him got tripped, and I split on my bicycle, skateboard and flag in hand. I donated the skateboard to St. Vincent De Pauls later on. Another time two women whined to me they had always wanted to burn a flag in a demonstration and wanted it back. A few sided with them, but I made it clear I was in no mood to comply, and am well known enough locally that no one wanted to scrap over this. I also lecture Goodwills and Vinnies that put flags that are donated out for sale that are unserviceable or not folded properly. I would say that if those protesting the law don't start doing so more responsibly and much better, they are going to make support for the law stronger and larger, not the other way around.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
As much as I think the law is a good law and illegals should be deported (personally I think we should have closed borders), Doug Giles' lies and bullshit do nothing but damage the support and image of those who support this law. Giles sounds like the typical propaganda neocon. Either write the truth or shut up. I live in AZ and the wife works at the capital bldg. We watched much of the rally and though it was loud and obnoxious at times it was nothing like Giles wrote. Those like Giles are the ones who undermine good laws and those who back them. There was one incident where a person supporting the legislation was arguing with some of the rally participants and a minor scuffle broke out. When police escorted the man away from the scuffle one water bottle was thrown "AT" the police. Peace permeated Saturday's protests against Arizona's new immigration law as thousands gathered in Phoenix for an early-morning vigil and then an afternoon May Day march. But the size of demonstrations at the epicenter of the immigration debate withered in comparison to rallies across the nation, where tens of thousands of protesters - including 50,000 in Los Angeles - gathered to demand that President Barack Obama tackle immigration reform immediately. In Phoenix, several people were on hand to show their support for Senate Bill 1070, but only a few of those demonstrators riled the crowd. As police escorted them away, they were met with shouts of "White supremacist," "go home, Nazi" and "racist." The measure signed into law last week requires police to inquire about the immigration status of anyone they reasonably suspect to be in the county illegally. Barring a successful legal challenge, the law goes into effect July 29. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/01/20100501arizona-immigration-protests.html And isn't interesting that Giles doesn't say anything about moron obama being in Quincy that day. Anytime any president is visiting there is substantial law enforcement present. Quincy Tea Party members wanted President Barack Obama to know they were present Wednesday afternoon during his appearance in Quincy. About 200 people protesting Obama’s policies loudly chanted “USA, USA” as his motorcade made its way out of the Oakley-Lindsay Center, then sang “Hey, hey, hey, goodbye” as the vehicle went by. The participants were vocal but well-behaved as they stood on the north side of York Street across from the OLC. […] There were a few tense moments when the crowd moved west down York toward Third Street after the president’s motorcade arrived. A Secret Service agent asked the crowd to move back across the street to the north side. When the crowd didn’t move and began singing “God Bless, America” and the national anthem, Quincy Deputy Police Chief Ron Dreyer called for members of the Mobile Field Force to walk up the street. The officers, mainly from Metro East departments near St. Louis and dressed in full body armor, marched from the east and stood on the south side of York facing the protesters. There was no physical contact, and the officers did not come close to the crowd, but there were catcalls and more than a few upset tea party members, including a woman who shouted, “This is communism!” McQueen also assisted in asking people to step back to the north side of York. The crowd moved back, the officers stayed for about 15 minutes and left, and there were no other incidents. “It’s just a communication issue. We were trying to get them to move across the street,” Quincy Deputy Police Chief Curt Kelty said. “We were just trying to move them back, they complied, and it was fine.” The neocons who permeate sites like Townhall, FronPage (commie Ashkenzi founder Horowitz's rag) and similar sites should just stay the hell out of politics unless they can get their heads out of their asses and stop blowing things out of proportion. Damn atheist Ashkenazim neocons who took control of our politcs/government under Reagan should all be deported along with the illegals. Their constant use of Hegelian Dialectic tactics to try and cause dissention and violence are the major threat to our rights and freedom.
Given the state/condition of our nation since the neocons took control the flag is nothing more than a meaningless rag. After bush's reelection I no longer stand for the national anthem nor will I say the Pledge of Allegiance. Until our country runs these criminals out of politics and into prison and they continue to engage in unnecessary, immoral and illegals wars and continue to erode our Constitutional rights I will no longer pledge anything to this government. Those who want this type of government should move to Israel where they would feel more at home.
Now the F bomb, twice. Nice. Dude, you said you were done talking to me. So be done talking to me.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Makes sense to me. 200 white people together working together ARE more dangerous than 2000 random darkies. Everybody knows it BUT whitey.
Einstein took the cake. Boas ate it.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Yawn... That's coming from a whacked out cult member. I've got an idea, why don't you post those links to your Guru again, so we can all see what a nutcase, neoleftist you really are.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
I thought you were done talking to me. This kind of obsession and anger at any questioning of that obsession isn't healthy Eric. I'm not being snarky, I'm trying to communicate this to you as a friend. I know you won't hear me now, that's fine. In any event, you're clearly upset and angry, for reasons that are not terribly clear. Let it go, see you on other threads.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
You're not making your case that you're done talking to me. I can make it easy for you I guess and bozo you until you settle down. I've said everything I came to say, you're still stewing, maybe you need some time to cool down and recollect a bit. Actually, that's a good idea. Respond if you will, I won't see it or read it. Laters.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Yep, in a scene right out of some B-grade Orwellian flick, the tamest and nicest little old nanas and middle-class couples had Quincy’s Robo-Cops dispatched on them to quell… the, uh … uh … orderly protest and … the … uh … um … patriotic singing and … er … the … the American flag waving. Boy does that make Quincy and BHO look bad, or what? This is a fine article. I have read the entire thread (up to this time) and I read all the comments other than one poster I have on bozo (unless others I have on there posted and weren't quoted). I hated to see you and SonOfLiberty in such a heated discussion because I think both of you are good people and on the same side. You can be sure that those who hate those of us who respect the Constitution and want the politicians to abide by their oaths take great joy in seeing people on our side divided and fighting amongst ourselves. Almost forgot to say but Obama doesn't require any help to look bad. He can do that very adequately on his own. And I think the guy made some very good comments, the kind that are very funny in a sad kind of way. But comments like those grab your attention.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Yeah, they really, really need to watch out for that commie Kenyan (as if those people were any threat to the lousy eftard). It would be just terrible if anything happened to him, just terrrrrrriiiibbbbllleee!!!! I don't know if I could ever get over it but maybe in the fullness of time--perhaps a couple of microseconds--I could.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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The public's tolerance for that type of tyrannical behavior SOL, would be nonexistant if 9/11 (along with it's "aftermath") had never occurred!
I know you to be brighter than this.
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Is the author of this article so naive as to think the police departments of the nation, and the politics that order them about, haven't been using the police as jack booted thugs for years now? This guy must have been living in some time warp for the past 30 years.
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I've enjoyed exactly two "cop" shows over the years. Dragnet was one and the other was Columbo, so your point is well taken when compared to these. The absolute worst was Cops on Fox? I knew immediately that was the beginning of the final conditioning process.
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The leap from the Branch Davidians to what's going on today would have been "too much, too soon."
Again, I never said it "all started on 9/11,"
Just remember, it was you and your ilk that sponsored the rise of this beast under Junior's guidance buddy! Can't likely bitch about it now, sorry!
Then again, if you spent as much time actually looking at 9/11 "evidence," perhaps you'd see things differently!
Now, and moving on, the public was given a reason for the Branch Davidian fiasco, Ruby Ridge was all but covered up in the media and justified as well, but a MAJORITY, that's a key/operative word for you there SOL, now is considered to be "the bad guy."
I don't mind trying to have an objective conversation, but if I'm going to be shagging all of your bullshit statements that you claim that I said, sorry, I ain't participating!
9/11 and its fallout
If you choose to view it differently, then I simply don't know what to say except that I did think that you were brighter, more astute, and had more vision than that.
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Today in the media, and again, since 9/11 in case you hadn't noticed, the emphasis on "law enforcement" on TV, whether it be cop shows, reality bounty shows and the like, 24-like shows, not to mention commercial after commercial luring young people into law (not ethics or moral) enforcement, has skyrocketed.
The emphasis is on the rule of law,
Meanwhile, people still bicker over who's in charge at the time.
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but it seems as if the insane-in-the-membrane element was missing a wee little bit from the quaint Quincy rally. But it got the same treatment as Phoenix. Now that’s weird.
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#32. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#25)
Damn atheist Ashkenazim neocons who took control of our politcs/government under Reagan
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#31)
#34. To: SonOfLiberty (#27)
#35. To: SonOfLiberty (#33)
#36. To: SonOfLiberty (#33)
#37. To: Eric Stratton (#34)
#38. To: Eric Stratton, SonOfLiberty (#0)
The other crowd that got SWAT called down on them last week was in Quincy, Illinois—a two-hundred member Tea Party that mainly consisted of peaceful, blue-haired old ladies in Depends singing “God Bless America” outside of the venue where His Highness was reading a teleprompter about how great he is and how he plans to further whiz on the Constitution.
Lord Acton
#39. To: SonOfLiberty (#37)
#40. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#25)
The officers, mainly from Metro East departments near St. Louis and dressed in full body armor, marched from the east and stood on the south side of York facing the protesters.
Lord Acton
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