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Title: Joe Lieberman bill would strip citizenship
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36741.html
Published: May 4, 2010
Author: KASIE HUNT
Post Date: 2010-05-05 08:04:36 by bush_is_a_moonie
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Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) thinks he’s found a work-around on the whole Miranda rights debate for U.S. citizens accused of terrorism: Strip their citizenship and ship them to Guantanamo. Lieberman plans to introduce a bill that would amend a decades-old law aimed at yanking citizenship from U.S. citizens who fight for a foreign military. “I’m now putting together legislation to amend that to [specify that] any individual American citizen who is found to be involved in a foreign terrorist organization, as defined by the Department of State, would be deprived of their citizenship rights,” Lieberman said Tuesday. Such a law would potentially cover terror suspect Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-born American citizen charged in connection with the attempted car bombing in New York City’s Times Square. He was apprehended Monday night at the city’s John F. Kennedy airport after he boarded a flight to Dubai. “If you have joined an enemy of the United States in attacking the United States and trying to kill Americans, I think you sacrifice your rights of citizenship,” Lieberman said. There is one exception to the existing law: Americans are allowed to serve in the Israel Defense Forces without losing their citizenship. At a press conference Tuesday, Attorney General Eric Holder said Shahzad was questioned without a Miranda warning under the so-called public safety exception but was later read his rights and continued to speak with investigators. In a civilian trial, a judge can toss out evidence taken from a suspect who has not been read Miranda rights. The incident is the most serious terrorism attempt in this country since Christmas Day, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is accused of trying to detonate a bomb aboard a Northwest Airlines flight. Abdulmutallab, a Nigerian national, was read his Miranda rights, sparking an outcry from Republicans — who argued he should have been interrogated as an enemy combatant. Lieberman said he believes the administration should have used the recently created High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group in those interrogations. “My feeling is that if they [HIG] make a judgment that this was a terrorist act, the person should be turned over to the military,” Lieberman said. That’s not allowed under current law if the suspect is an American citizen, because U.S. citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. The 2006 law that outlines guidelines for the commissions authorizes them only for “alien unprivileged enemy belligerent[s].” That didn’t stop congressional Republicans from clamoring to know whether Shahzad was read his Miranda rights and questioning whether a civilian court is the appropriate venue. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said reading Shahzad his rights was a “serious mistake.” “I certainly would not read this individual his Miranda rights. I would not do that,” he said. “What I was talking about was that we don’t have to Mirandize someone immediately. You don’t — before you charge them, there’s time that elapses,” McCain later clarified to POLITICO. New York Rep. Peter King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, wants to know whether the Justice Department consulted with the intelligence community before it decided to hold his trial in civilian court.“I hope that Holder did discuss this with the intelligence community. If they believe they got enough from him, how much more should they get? Did they Mirandize him? I know he’s an American citizen, but still,” King told POLITICO. “I hope that if they did read him his rights, and if they are going for an indictment as opposed to a tribunal, that he did discuss it with the director of national intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, all the component parts of the intelligence community,” King said. King acknowledged that Shahzad’s case is different. “It is different from the Christmas Day bombing because, one, this guy is an American citizen; it appears that most of the work was carried out here in the United States as opposed to [with] Abdulmutallab, who was flying in,” King said. “That said, before there’s a rush to indict him, I think they should make an effort to figure out what is the best venue for him.” Lieberman also pointed to the public safety exception that allowed officials to question Shahzad — though Holder and other national security officials would not say how long that portion of the interrogation lasted. Maine Sen. Susan Collins, the top Republican on the Senate Homeland Security Committee and a key critic of the administration’s handling of the Abdulmutallab case, declined to criticize the Justice Department’s handling of the case. “Law enforcement and intelligence authorities continue to follow up on a number of ongoing leads,” Collins said in a statement Tuesday. “This attempted attack reminds us once again that terrorists are unrelenting in their desire to kill Americans. We cannot let down our guard and must meet this ongoing threat to our security with strength and resiliency.”
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Lieberman, you want to live in a dictatorship then move your Kike ass to Israel. Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
How many citizenships does ol' Joe have anyway? Will we need to apply this thing twice to him, or will once suffice? Just curious.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
But, would it cover the works of Dick Cheney, and the Bush bastards ? Fuck the nonsense ... let's get serious about ending terrorism !
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
"I think it's time for us to look at whether we want to amend that law to apply it to American citizens who choose to become affiliated with foreign terrorist organizations, whether they should not also be deprived automatically of their citizenship and therefore be deprived of rights that come with that citizenship ***** when they are apprehended and charged with a terrorist act ***** ," Lieberman, who helms the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, said on Fox News.
Naturalized citizens should have it stripped if they do his kind of crap. We don't need anymnore naturalized citizens or illegals. If anyone's citizenship needs to be revoked. Every single person who gives material support to baby murdering needs to have theirs revoked. That would include Lieberman.
Epic.
Or ADL, AIPAC, SPLC, JDL, JINSA, and every other damned jew.org that are actively working to destroy America? Why, of course not! That would be anti-semitic.
So Obama can give U.S. citizenship to the tens of millions of invading mexicans, while at the same time strip conservative and libertarian americans of their U.S. citizenship. We need a military coup soon or we are going to knee deep in blood from a full blown revolution.
That about sums it up, yep. Remember (if you pay attention to my posts), I've noted a very strong and deliberate propaganda push for months and months now that will eventually lead to us being labeled as terrorists for simply holding our anti-government positions. This, is another step on the ladder. And I'll tell you brother, I'm not happy about having predictive power like this. :( That seems to be coming as well. When, I don't know. The declaration that we're terrorists will be much sooner though, much much sooner.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
If Joe Lie wants to do the world a favor, he can retire to the Fascist republic of Israel. And when he arrives there leave the plane while at 40,000 feet at 400 mph.
LOL
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." deleted
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
I honestly don't see the fascists being able to push their full agenda through before the nation collapses at the national level. Trying to strip natural born citizens of their citizenship may drive the military to side with the people fully, because they could be next. The fascists would probably like to bring in UN troops and have them execute the U.S. military personal. Of course, by creating this bill, Joe Lieberman is publicly admitting that illegal mexican invaders have no rights presently in the U.S.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I meant, against "normal" Americans. Not your fringe type dissenters, like us.
MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Actually, the U.S. military and veterans planned a coup to overthrow FDR. The only reason it failed was the person they planned to replace FDR with turned on them. Make no mistake that everything is in play.
Wait a second, I thought that we were "a nation of immigrants" and that "diversity is our strength!"?? WTF, Joe, say it ain't so....
_________________________________________________________________________ This is truly the end. The final death knell of liberty in the USA for awhile. Do you think those huatree boys would get a fair trial under this bill? or would they of been declared stateless and given black hoods and unmarked car rides. This legislation is a threat to all US citizens. The website you post on. IS their server located in a designated terrorist country? Guilt by association. You lose your citizenship and earn an illegal enemy combatant stamp. Then its the Guantanamo experience for you. Liberman talks of world war two examples to justify this bill? This bill is something Nazi Germany would pass to round up their "non citizens" and "illegal combatants" This is your notice. Get out now. Or prepare for what you know is coming. Because it is coming.
I have had another thought. What happens when the terrorists learn of this bill and how it works and then decides to use it as a weapon against us? Some quick identity theft and then you get "drafted" by the Taliban. On phone call later and the police are their hauling you off as a non citizen. Any any organization could do this. Nigerians, Somalians, Iraqis , Iranians, North Koreans...and on and on... When this happens...what then?
www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm www.rense.com/general80/dist.htm
Obama's following orders / he's a puppet ... but your claims stated above are taking place just the same. Federal (Reserve Bank) Citizenship is slavery. You may be right about a military "coup" ... the other side of that argument is that Kissinger said there would come a time when people would beg for a military takover. A military coup would further weaken the principles upon which the country was formed and likely would become a permanent dictatorship. The strength of the Constitution lies with "the people" knowing it, claiming it, and enforcing it. If the people take it upon themselves to rid D.C. of the murderous psychopaths that have become so popular of late, only then will the Constitution demonstrate that it has teeth. There's a very real war going on in America.
"April 15th is really April FOOL'S DAY."
Kissinger mistakenly believes that military coups leads to globalism. Which is not the case, military coup da ta's are very nationalistic. International, such government are not giving money out, but asking for money to be give to them from outside. On debts, default is the only thing that is going to happen. The U.S. population cannot pay $600 trillion U.S. dollars in debt.
"America" is NOT the "United States"; America is the COUNTRY OF PROMISE FOR CHRISTIANS [ Hebrews 11:6-10, bible.cc/john/14-2.htm , Micah 4, Psalm 2:6, www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=41327 ] "involved in"? "foreign"....the original states are foreign to the "United States" which is NOT a country, but a foreign JEWISH Corporation controlled from The City of London. Christians are "foreign" to the JURISDICTION of the Jewish CorpUSA, by law and by natural right and by admonition: "Come out of her my people...Come out and be ye SEPARATE". CorpUSA's State Department is going to define who is a "foreign terrorist organization", the very same State Department which declared that the New Testament is ANTI-SEMITIC [ http://www.truthtellers.org/aler...testamentantisemitic.html ]. Blast from the past from Rev. Ted Pike, a warning in its entirety, now coming to pass with the "Federal Hate Crimes Bill" passed by ZOG/CorpUSA. THE REAL MOTIVE BEHIND THE “DEPARTMENT OF GLOBAL ANTI-SEMITISM” By Rev. Ted Pike 23 Aug 05 On October 16, 2004 President Bush signed into law the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act. It establishes a special department within the U.S. State Department to monitor global anti-Semitism, reporting annually to Congress. This is more “Hate Crimes” legislation, orchestrated by the international Jewish religious, educational, and fraternal organization, B’nai B’rith, and its Anti-Defamation League. The new “Department of Global Anti-Semitism” is designed to make critics of Israel not only into “anti-Semites” but ultimately into “domestic terrorists.” But first, what is anti-Semitism? Simple: It is the racist belief that Jews, because of heredity, are evil, greedy, corrupting, subversive, degenerate, etc. Hitler believed this. So do the KKK and certain “Christian identity” and white supremacist groups. Such dehumanization of Jews is evil, un-Christian, un-American. On the other hand, if the actions of individual Jews, Jewish institutions, Jewish religious or secular leaders, or the nation Israel have been evil, then vehement criticism is not anti-Semitic. It is courageous and laudable. Certainly, the Biblical prophets, including Christ, engaged in vitriolic criticism of the sinful nation Israel and its false leaders. No one considers them anti-Semitic. TWISTED DEFINITIONS OF “ANTI-SEMITISM” However, in its “Report on Global Anti-Semitism” and “Global Anti-Semitism Report,” the U.S. State Department ignores the above perspectives. Here is a list of beliefs or activities the U.S. government now considers anti-Semitic: 1. Any assertion “that the Jewish community controls government, the media, international business and the financial world” is anti-Semitic. 2. “Strong anti-Israel sentiment” is anti-Semitic. 3. “Virulent criticism” of Israel’s leaders, past or present, is anti-Semitic. According to the State Department, anti-Semitism occurs when a swastika is portrayed in a cartoon decrying the behavior of a past or present Zionist leader. Thus, a cartoon that includes a swastika to criticize Ariel Sharon’s brutal 2002 invasion of the West Bank, raining “hell-fire” missiles on hapless Palestinian men, women and children, is anti-Semitic. Similarly, when the word “Zionazi” is used to describe Sharon’s saturation bombing in Lebanon in 1982 (killing 17,500 innocent refugees), it is also “anti-Semitic.” 4. Criticism of the Jewish religion or its religious leaders or literature (especially the Talmud and Kabbalah) is anti-Semitic. 5. Criticism of the U.S. government and Congress for being under undue influence by the Jewish-Zionist community (including AIPAC) is anti-Semitic. 6. Criticism of the Jewish-Zionist community for promoting globalism (the “New World Order”) is anti-Semitic. 7. Blaming Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman crucifixion of Christ is anti-Semitic. 8. Diminishing the “six million” figure of Holocaust victims is anti-Semitic. 9. Calling Israel a “racist” state is anti-Semitic. 10. Asserting that there exists a “Zionist Conspiracy” is anti-Semitic. 11. Claiming that Jews and their leaders created the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia is anti-Semitic. 12. Making “derogatory statements about Jewish persons” is anti-Semitic. 13. Denying spiritually disobedient Jews the biblical right to re-occupy Palestine is anti-Semitic. 14. Alleging that Mossad was behind the 9/11 attack is anti-Semitic. ANTI-SEMITISM IS A “HATE CRIME” In the Global Anti-Semitism Report, State Department spokespersons Ambassador Edward O’Donnell and the head of the office of global anti-Semitism, Ambassador Michael B. Kozak, defend the State Department’s definitions. O’Donnell’s statement that he wants to “end all anti-Semitism and other hate crimes” reveals that he considers anti-Semitism a hate crime. Presumably, he would like such a “crime” to be punished. These State Department reports repeatedly equate “strong, anti-Israel sentiment” and criticism of matters Jewish with “hate.” They give no recognition to the possibility that such criticism might be sincerely motivated not by hate but by moral indignation or even love for the Jewish people. The Report on Global Anti-Semitism repeatedly calls for passage, both nationally and internationally, of “hate crime” legislation. These laws, the brainchild of B’nai B’rith/ADL, also have as their ultimate goal making it a “hate crime” to criticize Jews, matters Jewish, or the state of Israel. The Report on Global Anti-Semitism reeks with B’nai B’rith/ADL logic, phraseology, and evidence of their incredible worldwide organizational and statistic-gathering capacities. It contains thirty-three pages of minute documentation of “anti-Semitic incidents” in fifty-eight countries of the world, documentation which only B’nai B’rith/ADL, with its offices in more than fifty countries, could compile or even be that vitally interested in. Without a doubt, as with hate laws, this Global Anti-Semitism Review Act is their creation. CRITICISM-FREE ZONE FOR JEWS Thus, the Department of Anti-Semitism, applauded and advised by B’nai B’rith/ADL, is working to create a worldwide “criticism-free zone” for Jews in the “New World Order” that is coming. This report ignores whether criticisms of matters Jewish are true. What must be defended are the sensitivities of the Jewish people! Consequently, relating such unflattering realities as the anti-Christian, anti-Gentile contents of the Talmud and Kabbalah, Jewish origins of bolshevism, Jewish dominance of Hollywood and the media, Jewish control of Congress through AIPAC, Zionist atrocities and abrasiveness in the Middle East is anti-Semitic. It is “hate.” It does not matter that such facts can be easily and extensively documented, often from impeccable Jewish sources such as the Encyclopedia Judaica. All such anti-Semitism, this report says, is a “scourge,” an “intolerable burden,” which “for an increasingly interdependent world…must be ended.” On the other hand, according to the U.S. State Department, there does exist some possibility that “objective criticism” of Israel and its leaders can be tolerated - that is, just as long as such criticism does not “cross the line” and become “strong anti-Israel sentiment” and “virulent.” Such criticism should not “demonize” Jews, Jewish religious or political leaders, or the state of Israel. However, what may be considered “virulence” or “demonization” by Zionists may be seen as nothing more than salty truth-telling by critics of Israel. Hypocritically, the State Department itself is not above “demonizing” strong critics of Israel in the most “virulent” terms as a “plague” and “scourge” on mankind! TURNING “ANTI-SEMITISM” INTO “DOMESTIC TERRORISM” The State Department’s twisted definition of anti-Semitism provides exponential opportunities to persecute Bible-believing Christians, anti-war activists, Moslems, as well as publishers and broadcasters in the years ahead. In fact, by turning “strong” criticism of the American/Zionist coalition into “anti-Semitism and other hate crimes,” the State Department opens the door to eventual characterization of those who criticize Israel as not only anti-Semites but also as “domestic terrorists.” Here’s how it can be done: Today, those who raise funds in America to support America’s and Israel’s terrorist enemies are arrested as “domestic terrorists.” But what if articulate Americans provided something else, potentially even more valuable to Israel’s enemies: “strong criticism” of Israel? Such could weaken Israel morally in the sight of the world, giving justification to the claims of her terrorist enemies. Should they also be punished? As the Second World War was beginning in 1939, Charles Lindberg was publicly critical of international Jews for inveigling America into a war to destroy Hitler. Lindberg believed that Hitler should be allowed to do what he wanted to do most, move east and destroy “Jewish Communism” in Russia. In 1944, 30 Americans, who agreed with Lindberg, were arrested for the crime of “sedition,” weakening America’s resolve in the fight against fascism. Later investigation under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that the ADL, attempting to equate criticism of international Jews with Nazism, had entirely created the FBI case. Records revealed that the ADL was “only warming up” by pursuing sedition convictions against 30 innocent Americans. Their ultimate ambition was to imprison prominent critics of evil Jewish leadership, especially Charles Lindberg. Fortunately, ADL’s attempt to transform 30 critics of international Jews into “Nazis” failed when the judge died and the case was dissolved. Today, America and Israel are allies in the “war on terror.” Tomorrow, especially if the war on terror intensifies and America and Israel cooperate even more closely, criticism of America’s ally in the war on terrorism may be construed as “aiding and abetting the enemy.” Such “strong criticism” or anti-Semitism may be seen as not only weakening Israel, but America itself. Turning millions of Americans into anti-Semites for criticizing Israel is thus a transition toward ADL’s ultimate goal: making such persons “enemies of the war on terror,” i.e., “domestic terrorists.” They then can be prosecuted under Homeland Security laws. CANADA: ALREADY MAKING “ANTI-SEMITES” INTO “DOMESTIC TERRORISTS” In Canada, we are seeing exactly this happen. Ernst Zundel is a Holocaust revisionist who doubts that a full six million Jews were deliberately murdered by the Nazis, largely by gassing. He asserts that untold numbers of Jews in German internment camps, especially in the last years of the war, died not in gas chambers, but as a result of massive, well-documented typhus epidemics, which also killed countless Poles, Gypsies, Russians, etc. Yet in Canada, thanks to ADL/B’nai B’rith, it is a “hate crime” to lesson to any degree the six million figure of Holocaust dead, or that most of them died in gas chambers. Such diminishment is anti-Semitism, a “hate crime” punishable by harsh fines and imprisonment. Several years ago Zundel was deported from his home in Tennessee back to Canada to spend more than two years in solitary confinement in a Canadian prison. He was then deported back to his native Germany where he remains in prison. Under what charge have Canadian authorities been holding him? You guessed it. He is a “terrorist threat!” So it will be for millions of Americans tomorrow if ADL/B’nai B’rith have their way and the Department of Anti-Semitism’s twisted definitions of anti-Semitism are allowed to stand. The Department of Global Anti-Semitism is informing the world who the “domestic terrorists” of tomorrow will be. They are you and I. WHAT CAN WE DO? We can do plenty! Call our members of Congress toll-free at 1-877-762-8762 Call the U.S. State Department comment line at 1-202-647-4000 Demand that all funding and authority for the development of the Department of Anti-Semitism be rescinded. Demand that Congressional hearings be held to re-formulate a workable, balanced definition of “anti-Semitism” - one that protects Bible-believing Christians, critics of Israel, and Moslems from persecution as “anti-Semites.” Also, call into talk shows, especially large, syndicated ones. Since the threat of hate laws is “taboo” on most large shows, do not tell the talk show operator that you want to comment on that subject. If the topic of the day is even remotely related to the issue of free speech, terrorism, the Mid-East, etc., begin with those topics but quickly move the discussion to the threat of hate laws. Describe how free speech is lost in Canada; how eleven Christians were arrested under Pennsylvania’s hate law; how the “Department of Anti-semitism” would make many Americans into anti-semites. Talk show hosts: For an interview with Rev. Ted Pike on the “Department of Anti-Semitism,” call 503-631-3808. For many articles on “hate crimes” legislation and B’nai B’rith’s role in creating it, visit http://www.truthtellers.org. For a gripping 80-minute video documentary by Ted Pike, “Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians,” at $24.90 postpaid, call 503-631-3808, order online, or write National Prayer Network, P.O. Box 828, Clackamas, OR 97015 http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/departofantisemitsm.html ===================== Rev. Ted Pike: "...Since I first sounded the alarm on the federal hate bill last November and warned of its almost certain passage in the Democrat-controlled Congress, I have been interviewed on 114 national talk shows. My message against the hate bill has probably “intimidated” two groups the federal hate bill would especially protect: homosexuals and Jews. Homosexuals are intimidated because I regularly quote Holy Scripture describing their sexual behaviors as an abomination. The Jewish Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith is intimidated by my exposure of them as architect of thought crime laws worldwide. ADL is, in fact, so intimidated they don’t dare to mention my name on their website for fear tens of thousands will visit http://www.truthtellers.org and hear the whole truth about them. The same goes for a cluster of Jewish activist organizations presided over by B’nai B’rith International. ACLU, People for the American Way, American Jewish Congress, American Jewish Committee, Southern Poverty Law Center, etc. rarely, if ever, mention Ted Pike. In contrast, I expose their anti-American, anti-Christian activities to the world from the highest place of attention I can find – talk radio and the internet. If H. R. 1592 becomes law, I and the 33 talk show hosts who have “aided and abetted” me since November are eminently indictable. Who else will have to look over their shoulder, fearing charges as a speech criminal? Are YOU in that danger? What Is “Intimidation?” The term “intimidation” is so vague and subjective that it will be up to activist judges to decide who can be indicted under H.R. 1592. Certainly, the homosexual lobby thinks “homophobicâ€33; evangelicals—especially pastors who “intimidate” youth away from homosexuality and warn of God’s judgment—are potential hate criminals. If H.R. 1592 is ratified, how will its inquisition against Christians begin? It will probably follow the pattern of our northern neighbor since 1971. In Canada, the individuals least likely to merit public favor were indicted first. Holocaust reductionists (who question the accuracy of the 6 million figure of Jewish dead during WW II and whether gas chambers were primarily responsible for loss of Jewish life) were the primary victims of ADL’s federal hate bill, The Canadian Human Rights Act. Canadians of a vulgarly anti-Semitic, racist, or bigoted mentality were also arraigned first. ADL indicted when its victims wouldn’t be supported by public opinion. But in the United States, as in Canada, hate crime legal precedents will quickly add up, enabling ADL to pursue their ultimate quarry: evangelicals. Within a few years, like wolves savaging a flock of sheep, ADL-instructed prosecutors will repeatedly indict Christian pastors, activists, publishers, educators and broadcasters. Christians will be charged with aiding, abetting or counseling those who verbally “intimidate” homosexuals away from their “natural” preferences. As with Austria’s conviction of WW II historian David Irving, it will not matter whether Christians have stopped criticizing homosexuality. Even decades-old statements will be dredged up, ex post facto, and held against them. Jerusalem: Center of Persecution ADL longs to revive first century persecution of Christians. Christ said this persecution would come from Jerusalem. He said His followers would be hauled before councils and synagogues to be beaten and imprisoned (Matt. 10:17, Luke 21:42). It is undoubtedly toward this ultimate objective that Knesset several years ago authorized the government of Israel to request international extradition of anyone who questions the 6 million figure of Holocaust victims. Israeli law now allows anyone in the world to be extradited and tried in an Israeli court for “desecrating of the memory of the Jewish dead.â€33; Such a criminal faces living death in an Israeli prison. To the virulently anti-Christian ADL, Holocaust reductionism is just one of the unforgivable sins of "anti-Semitism." Christians, even those who most generously back Israel—are inherently anti-Semitic because they believe the New Testament, which ADL’s director, Abe Foxman, says is the seed of anti-Semitism throughout the ages, the seminal cause of the Holocaust. (See, ADL’s Foxman: New Testament is Anti-Semitic http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/ntantisemitic.html ). Today, ADL presides over a U.S. State Department “Office of Global Anti-Semitism,” which defines as anti-Semitic the New Testament's witness that Jewish leaders and laymen demanded Christ’s crucifixion. (See, The Real Motive Behind the ‘Department of Global Anti-Semitism’) ADL also says sharing Christ with Jews is a form of racial religious hatred. Christians who fulfill their responsibility to love others by spreading the gospel and preaching from Scripture are doomed, under ADL hate laws, to indictment as anti-Semitic hate criminals! Someday, under internationally enforced hate laws, such believers will fulfill Christ’s prophecy by suffering deportation to Israel for trial, prison or death in the same way that Holocaust reductionists like Germar Rudolph and Ernst Zundel have been deported to Germany for trial under Germany’s ADL-inspired hate laws. Ben-Gurion Prophesied Jewish World Control Is Jesus’ the only prophetic voice predicting that Jerusalem will someday host a one-world government and its thought police? No. Israel’s first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion prophesied her eventual dominance of the planet: “All continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars. In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah.” (Look magazine, Jan. 1962) They're Coming for YOU If you “intimidate” homosexuals, Jews, Muslims, etc. in any way, by criticizing moral or social evil or witnessing for your faith, then know that H.R. 1592 will bring state-sponsored persecution to you—faster than you can imagine. This includes liberals who have criticized Islam. We must respond to H.R. 1592 NOW. Protest not only to your House members but also to your senators. There is no doubt that through hate laws and their close cousins—ADL-inspired “anti-discrimination” laws in housing and employment—the ADL-controlled Democrat majority both in state legislatures and Congress is attempting to create a nationwide, federally enforced speech code in America, which will soon persecute and silence Christianity....." http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/?p=1699 persecute yes, silence, no...the gates of hell [Rev. 2:9, 3:9, 20:7-9] will not prevail [Matthew 16:18] against the church, which is the Israel of God [Galatians 3:16-29], and America is their promised land [2 Samuel 7:10, Ezekiel 34/John 10]. Isaiah 65:15 You will leave your name for a curse unto my chosen, for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call His servants by another name. Matthew 21:19 ..LET NO FRUIT GROW ON THEE FOREVER. Jesus to His disciples: John 15:15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends[ Exodus 33:11, 2Chronicles 20:7/Gal. 3:16-29, Isaiah 41:8], for all things that I have heard from My Father [Isaiah 9:6] I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU AND APPOINTED YOU THAT YOU SHOULD GO AND BEAR FRUIT, AND THAT YOUR FRUIT SHOULD REMAIN, that whatever you ask the Father in My Name He may give unto you. ====================== Here's what Lieberman et al want: Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the Existing Court System of Each Country Al Gore Letter 10 01-Nov-2000 Education Day USA [Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. ... Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts ... will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha.... in the United States, the emphasis will be on restoring the authority of the Constitution and abolishing all unconstitutional government programs and agencies. The national debt will be foreclosed, probably by paying off creditors with government land holdings, thus averting economic disaster. And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law. — Committee for Israeli Victory]...... ABOVE: Vice-Presidential candidate Joe Lieberman with the Lubavitcher Rebbe ......Rabbi Schneerson is cited as teaching that: * Jews and non-Jews are of an entirely different species. Also cited by Shahak and Mezvinsky was that Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh, a leading member of the Habad Hasids, proposed that if a Jew needs a liver, it is permissible to take the life of an innocent non-Jew to obtain that liver. "Jewish life has an infinite value," he explains. Among those who have been inspired by Rabbis Schneerson and Ginsburgh has been Dr. Baruch Goldstein who slaughtered 29 Palestinian men and boys while they knelt in prayer in the Ibrahimi Mosque at Hebron's Machpela Cave, on Purim 1994, Purim being the Jewish celebration of vengeance against non-Jews:....... www.cephas-library.com/nw...ts_will_replace_ours.html All Christians, and anyone else who doesn't want to go along with their Jew World Order, will be killed [IF they have their way], death is to be by DECAPITATION. See also "STAR CHAMBER COURTS, NOAHIDE LAW" at watch.pair.com They have said "Here come the heirs, let's kill them and take for ourselves their inheritance." They have said "Let us break their bonds in pieces, and cast away their cords from us." Psalm 2:3. They have taken crafty counsel against your people [Christians], and consulted against your hidden ones. They have said, "Come let us cast them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel [CHRISTIAN] may be remembered no more....Let us take the houses...and pastures of God for a possession." Psalm 83. But what saith, the Scripture? Galatians 4:21Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 22For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. http://kingjbible.com/galatians/4.htm They accept Christ or they're out. That's what the last 400 years in America has been about. Them, going against God.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
So was FDR.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Hey, I miss the Lubavitcher Rebbe Schneerson - But after alot of practice at the gun range my aim is getting much better.
So was Hitler. That is not helping your argument.
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#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
Such a law would potentially cover terror suspect Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-born American citizen charged in connection with the attempted car bombing in New York City’s Times Square.
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#6. To: SonOfLiberty (#2)
Will we need to apply this thing twice to him, or will once suffice? Just curious.
#7. To: noone222 (#3)
But, would it cover the works of Dick Cheney, and the Bush bastards ?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
Lieberman plans to introduce a bill that would amend a decades-old law aimed at yanking citizenship from U.S. citizens who fight for a foreign military.
#9. To: PaulCJ (#8)
So Obama can give U.S. citizenship to the tens of millions of invading mexicans, while at the same time strip conservative and libertarian americans of their U.S. citizenship.
We need a military coup soon or we are going to knee deep in blood from a full blown revolution.
#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
TEXT DOLPHIN To 44144
#11. To: Ferret (#10)
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
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#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#15)
The US military will do what Washington tells them to. Make no mistake about that.
#18. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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#22. To: PaulCJ (#8)
So Obama can give U.S. citizenship to the tens of millions of invading mexicans, while at the same time strip conservative and libertarian americans of their U.S. citizenship.
#23. To: noone222 (#22)
#24. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
(Edited)
“I’m now putting together legislation to amend that to [specify that] any individual American citizen who is found to be involved in a foreign terrorist organization, **** as defined by the Department of State, would be deprived of their citizenship rights,” Lieberman said Tuesday.
LEFT: Ukrainian-born Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, 1902-1994.
* A non-Jew should be punished by death if he kills an embryo, even if the embryo is non-Jewish, while the Jew should not be, even if the embryo is Jewish.
* Two kinds of souls exist — all non-Jewish souls originate from one of three satanic spheres, whereas Jewish souls originate from holiness.
* The universe was created for the sake of Jews, and the role of all non-Jews is to serve Jews.
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#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#25)
The planners were big fans of Mussolini and Hitler's brand of governing.
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#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
#30. To: ghostdogtxn (#28)
True. But he was an ELECTED fascist...
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