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Title: “The oil is creeping towards my home in Alabama as I write this, and it is breaking my heart.”
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Published: May 12, 2010
Author: bh
Post Date: 2010-05-12 20:44:06 by tom007
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“The oil is creeping towards my home in Alabama as I write this, and it is breaking my heart.” Published by ash_anderson, May 12th, 2010 Climate Justice , Climate Policy , Climate Science , Climate and Forestry , Corporate Responsibility , Corruption , Dirty Energy , Extraction , Government , Impacted Communities , Oceans , Oil , global warming 1 Comment

Brinkley Hutchings, Greenpeace Student Network activist, at home on the Alabama coast -- directly in the path of the fast-approaching spill.

From Brinkley Hutching’s blog, a post entitled A Local’s Account of the Deepwater Disaster. She filmed an astonishing video from her fathers aircraft, as they flew from their home to the source of the spill and back. See below. She is also the Greenpeace Campus Coordinator at University of North Carolina-Wilmington.

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I grew up in one of the most beautiful places. Montrose, Alabama. My family lives on Mobile Bay, and I spent my childhood exploring the many bays, rivers, streams and creeks near my home. Starting at age 7, I would spend whole days exploring the local waters and shorelines with my little 13 foot boat. What existed naturally in my own backyard was truly utopian. Now, all the beautiful trees, wildlife and pristine waters, all will see the thick black and red oil within these next days. It brings a deeper ache than I can express.

As I flew out to the spill last Friday with my father (he’s a pilot), I wasn’t prepared for what I was going to witness. Here are some notes I took during the flight as we approached the source of this disaster:

“We are starting to smell oil…the pungent smell burns my nostrils and I feel nauseated to the core of my being….oh my God…red streaks of oil are everywhere…thick black near the well…it is crude oil and it stretches as far as I can see…I am sick…I can’t feel my own body or distinguish any of my feelings right now… this is the worst and most saddening situation I have ever seen in my life…The boats are randomly skewn about, and they are so disorganized! The cleanup efforts look completely haphazard and ineffective. It is utter chaos down there! Boats randomly placed, pulling booms that are simply swirling the oil around in circles! I really don’t feel alive right now…this is a horrible dream…why the heck didn’t BP have to have a plan in place for a disaster like this?!”

It was so much worse than I could have ever imagined and not even close to what the media has been portraying. I couldn’t even take it all in. I saw miles and miles of crude oil pouring from the Earth’s core to the ocean’s surface, red as blood, where it then proceeded to move eerily and ominously with the current toward my home. Before I even registered sadness, tears poured down my face. My entire body cried. I felt so helpless looking down at that uncontainable and chaotic mess. I will never be able to clear that picture from my mind.

This disaster could have been prevented, yet it wasn’t due to BP’s own negligence and a weak national energy policy. What’s outrageous is that BP is doing everything they can to avoid assuming responsibility for this spill. How dare they try and sidestep responsibility for the worst disaster in the Gulf’s history?!?!?!

Over 4 million gallons of crude oil are destroying the Gulf coast and innumerable wildlife habitats while also crippling local economies – this is destroying my home.The time of giveaways and loose regulation of the oil industry must end.

I hope with all my heart that this disaster will be a huge wakeup call. Things must change. We must all work to lessen our dependence on fossil fuels and be involved in a clean energy revolution. Congress needs to ban offshore drilling and President Obama needs to provide unwavering support to end offshore drilling.

Please talk to your friends. Talk to your neighbors. Start organizing yourselves. Become involved with these serious issues we are facing. If we continue on our current path of carelessly extracting fossil fuels like oil and coal, rather than harnessing clean, renewable energy like wind power, we will see many more tragedies like the BP oil spill. From the disaster zone,

Brinkley Hutchings

Still photos taken during the flight

Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)

* Oil continues to dump into the Gulf * National Day of Action, Night of Mourning Against Offshore Drilling. Friday… * My Op-Ed on the Offshore Drilling Disaster * Powering Our Future

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Well, Brink, I suggest you get use it, life is a bitch, as you will find out.

Thru ones life, everyone pays at some time for the mistakes of others.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   21:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Lets give this a few months and head down South to scoop up some cheap beach front property. It can't be worse than "Tar Beach" (the rooftops of the buildings we lived in in Brooklyn.)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-12   21:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull, All (#2)

It can't be worse than "Tar Beach" (the rooftops of the buildings we lived in in Brooklyn.)

You didnt mention the girls that use to sunbathe nekkid on the rooftops????

How come???

You had binoculars.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   21:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#0)

Put out the hay and the hair absorption devices and stop the mess.

I don't know how to get this information to the jackasses in charge.

Please help, if you can.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-12   21:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-12   21:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

Lod, relax. The Kenyan has it covered.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-12   21:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#0)

They should seal the well closed with a nuke or similar magnitude blast under the sea floor. They should have started working on that immediately as a last resort in case the well wasn't contained by the time the nuke was ready to go off.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-12   21:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-12   21:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Seriously though, why haven't they set the shit on fire?

Slick, in the WH, is a classic, Grade A asshole. And did I mention an empty suit?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-12   21:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-12   21:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

He is to Gulf oil as Bush was to Katrina

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-12   21:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Lod, relax. The Kenyan has it covered.

What?

Is the first family going down there and bob their nappy locks into the spill?

Or what?

We be needing all their ancestors back to Kunta Kentay to mop up this mess.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-12   21:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#12)

BP fails to cap well, and oil is heading to the Straits of Florida

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-05-12   21:54:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#7)

hey should seal the well closed with a nuke or similar magnitude blast under the sea floor. They should have started working on that immediately as a last resort in case the well wasn't contained by the time the nuke was ready to go off.

A newscaster was all over this.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-05-12   21:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#12)

Lod...

You appear to have little faith in our government and Obumski in particular.

All such events and affairs such as this oil spill are covered in Harvard law school. So sit back and relax, El Presidente has everything under control.

Thats why Harvard law school is so great, they have secret books that deal with oil spills and such.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   21:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#7)

They should seal the well closed with a nuke or similar magnitude blast under the sea floor.

What makes you or anyone think that such an event would "seal" it closed?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-12   21:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

I wish that we could mock, and ridicule, those cretins out of office.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-12   22:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Lod (#17)

I wish that we could mock, and ridicule, those cretins out of office.

That cannot be done as we no longer have freedom of speech.

It will take blood to revive the tree of freedom.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   22:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

I only wish that I could disagree with you.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-12   22:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod (#19)

I only wish that I could disagree with you.

Kruschev was correct, "We will take you down FROM WITHIN".

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   22:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#16)

What makes you or anyone think that such an event would "seal" it closed?

Well, 5 miles of seafloor has apparently been doing a pretty good sealing job for quite some time, and last I checked, steel piping didn't stand up to well to nuclear blasts, so....

Get rid of that pipe, and physics takes care of the rest.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-12   22:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

Nikita seems to have it correct.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-12   22:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#22)

Nikita seems to have it correct.

His real name was ...PEARLMUTTER...

His son and his grand daughter are both college professors in New York city.

Does that scare you?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-12   22:23:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

this spill is a pretty good deal, actually.

in the best of all possible neocon worlds, the spill will eventually come ashore and cause lots of cleanup jobs, and the cost of those cleanup jobs will bankrupt BP, and exxon and its neocon allies at the AEI can buy BP at firesale prices.

then there's the public relations aspect ---after all, we're an empire now, and we create our own reality...

so, we want to ban drilling in US territory and make the US more dependent on oil coming from israel's neck of the woods... which will justify, covertly or not, expanding the wars to acquire oil from the oil patch in israel's neck of the woods, wars which will serve to enhance, whether anyone's willing to admit it or not, israel's security.

it's all good... especially in view of the fact that the gulf of mexico has been drilled to death and there just isnt much oil out there... it's mostly gas.

all this monkey motion, and we're still only getting 1.3 million barrels of oil a day from gomex... while we're burning 19 million barrels a day.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-12   22:30:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007 (#0)

Over 4 million gallons of crude oil are destroying the Gulf coast and innumerable wildlife habitats while also crippling local economies – this is destroying my home.The time of giveaways and loose regulation of the oil industry must end.

Four million gallons is a drop in the bucket when you are talking about the Gulf of Mexico. Not to say it won't kill some fish and birds but to think that four million gallons is going to destroy the Gulf of Mexico is foolish. Now if she is talking about that much a day or something like that, then yes, that could be very serious. But oil seeps into the ocean all the time and it is broken up by natural processes. I suspect this one will be too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-12   22:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

what, nobody has come up with 'this is obamas tarbaby' or similarly inappropriate remark

fuck. lets get it together people, that was a gimme.

'It is better to have less thunder in the mouth and more lightning in the hand.'

- Apache proverb

gengis gandhi  posted on  2010-05-12   22:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Lod (#12)

What?

Is the first family going down there and bob their nappy locks into the spill?

Or what?

We be needing all their ancestors back to Kunta Kentay to mop up this mess.

LOL! Good one, Lod.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-12   22:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#25) (Edited)

Four million gallons is a drop in the bucket...

...which explains why the mass media has to hype this event with 25,000 stories a day (according to google headlines) as the spill operation was just getting cranked up.

we know whose side the mass media is on, dont we? ...as they continue their attempts to expand the wars to iran...

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-12   22:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: tom007 (#0)

It was so much worse than I could have ever imagined and not even close to what the media has been portraying.

Because those who own BP, own the media.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-12   22:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach, all (#25)

Four million gallons is a drop in the bucket when you are talking about the Gulf of Mexico. Not to say it won't kill some fish and birds but to think that four million gallons is going to destroy the Gulf of Mexico is foolish. Now if she is talking about that much a day or something like that, then yes, that could be very serious. But oil seeps into the ocean all the time and it is broken up by natural processes. I suspect this one will be too.

There is some truth to that.

However, there WILL be damage. Unfortunate for the people, plants and animals of the Gulf.

Not so unfortunate for BP.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-12   22:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tom007 (#0)

Brinkley Hutchings

A likely moniker.

I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies. -- Ron Paul

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-05-12   22:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#30)

However, there WILL be damage.

I said there would be. Some fish will die and some birds will die and that is unfortunate. But four million gallons is not a lot when you consider the amount of water in the Gulf of Mexico.

1 cubic mile = 1 101 117 147 400 gallon [US, liquid]

source: http://www.onlineconversion.com/volume.htm

I don't know how many cubic miles there are in the Gulf of Mexico but look at how many gallons are in just one cubic mile. As I said, four million gallons in the Gulf of Mexico is literally a drop in the bucket.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-12   23:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Pinguinite (#7)

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-05-12   23:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: DeaconBenjamin (#33) (Edited)

"nuke the oil spill"

this "nuke the spill" tactic ought to be great for terrorizing people into shutting down drilling offshore, dont you think?

nobody in their right mind thinks it's a good idea to actually do it, but at least floating the idea is a useful scare tactic...

good to see you're so plugged in.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-12   23:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Well, oil is lighter than water, of course. Might be fairer to figure how thick the oil would be spread over the surface of the GoM.

GoM area: 579153 sq miles

1 sq Mile: 5280 * 5280 sq feet

My calc show it would come to about 1/10,000th of a cubic inch per square foot. which indeed seems miniscule.

Of course that's spread out over the whole GoM which this isn't. The current will take it to isolated places. I supposed the Valdez was much worse for the spill being very close to shore.

Maybe this won't be that bad.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-12   23:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

Yes, but the oil will only be on the surface, so the volume of water doesn't matter, the area does.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   0:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

Seriously though, why haven't they set the shit on fire?

Because all of the people working on controlling the oil leak will die - as they are at the center of the oil spill.

ratcat  posted on  2010-05-13   0:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#25)

Video of spill from the air:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did-S6XbpMM&feature=player_embedded#!

ratcat  posted on  2010-05-13   0:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ratcat (#38)

for the first time in his environmental career, he feels hopeless.

christine  posted on  2010-05-13   0:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ratcat, Eric Stratton (#37)

Seriously though, why haven't they set the shit on fire?

Because all of the people working on controlling the oil leak will die - as they are at the center of the oil spill.

They could move all the people far out of the way, light the oil on fire, let it burn off and then all the people could return.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   0:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: groundresonance (#28)

...which explains why the mass media has to hype this event with 25,000 stories a day (according to google headlines) as the spill operation was just getting cranked up.

we know whose side the mass media is on, dont we? ...as they continue their attempts to expand the wars to iran...

The media makes a big ado over nothing in order to divert the people's minds from what is really important.

It will be a bad fishing season for a few thousand people, but compared to 100 million, that is nothing. 10,000 people will stay away which hurts the local economies but others will come just to see it which will help the local economies.

It takes time, but the oil desolves in ocean water, the bacteria will eat it, and the hot summer sun will evaporate it. In any event, a few months after the oil spill stops, there will not be a trace. Then the media will hype the sex life of some movie star to keep our minds occupied on what is not important.

DWornock  posted on  2010-05-13   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: DWornock (#41)

The media makes a big ado

the main thing is to keep the wars going in the middle east... and restricting drilling in offshore america will contribute to keeping the wars going.

so the basic unadmitted fact will be that the wars are to grab oil.

the most forbidden fact is that the wars will be to protect israel.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   2:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: DWornock (#41)

...the oil desolves in ocean water, the bacteria will eat it, and the hot summer sun will evaporate it...

Uhhhh.... what?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   2:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

Or, we quit making the easiest to get oil off limits.

But nahhhh, that's too fucking easy.

... SPOT ON OLE CHAP !

"The smallest of frauds such as Santa Claus are perpetrated upon children by criminals in order that the largest of frauds such as the FEDERAL RESERVE may be had upon them as adults."

noone222  posted on  2010-05-13   6:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: groundresonance (#34)

nobody in their right mind thinks it's a good idea to actually do it, but at least floating the idea is a useful scare tactic...

Beware of Russians offering advice.

he who wants bread is the servant of the man that will feed him, if a man thus feeds a whole people, they are under his control.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2010-05-13   7:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: DeaconBenjamin (#45) (Edited)

Beware of Russians...

pre-9/11, the israeli russians were scheduled to guarantee oil supplies to israeli america, as the middle east was remodeled to israeli spec...

...so we should "beware russians", especially in view of the fact that putin fixed russia by dumping the israeli russians of yukos, along with other jewish oligarchs who were allied with the neocons...

too bad the infestation in america has gone past the point of fixing, isnt it? ...so you're likely to remain in control of america right to the bitter end, but there's not much you can do to restore israeli russians to their positions in russia... not much chance of restoring the 9/11 plan to its original glory ...which explains your hostility towards russia and putin...

the best laid plans, etc etc etc

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   8:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ratcat (#37)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-13   8:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: wudidiz (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-13   8:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: groundresonance (#42)

the most forbidden fact is that the wars will be to protect israel.

Sad but true. How Israel highjacked the USA for their benefit when there are just as many Arabs, and certainly more Mexicians, and probably as many Chinese and Japinese, is beyond me.

DWornock  posted on  2010-05-13   9:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: DWornock (#49)

How Israel highjacked the USA...

jews have controlled american mass media from the beginning, starting with the "newspaper of record", the new york times.

david halberstam wrote a book on it, "the powers that be".

by the time television became the dominant medium, jews were firmly in control of information availiable to the american public.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   9:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: wudidiz (#40)

They could move all the people far out of the way, light the oil on fire, let it burn off and then all the people could return.

Crews are still at work in that area trying to staunch the flow on the sea floor while other workers are trying to drill a relief valve in from the side. If BP lights it off, the area will become an impossible place to work.

Burning it off, I imagine, would be the last ditch if they decide they can't stem the flow of oil from the depths while they wait weeks for the relief well to hit the leaking borehole.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-05-13   9:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: DWornock (#49) (Edited)

How Israel highjacked the USA

when you couple zionist control of the media to the holyhoax persecution myth, jews became exempt from criticism... any criticism of jews or israel was an obvious manifestation of "antisemitism".

so these people have had generations of free lunch... kids turned loose in a candy store.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   9:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: DWornock (#49)

so jews in america are exempt from criticism, and they've exploited that exemption to worm their way into dominance of america and america culture.

meanwhile, they think their dominance proves their racial superiority... their dominance proves that they are entitled to run the world.

but what can you expect from mama's boys who are exempt from criticism?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   9:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: groundresonance (#53)

they think their dominance proves their racial superiority...

I don't like their control of America, but I will not dispute their racial Superiority. They have the highest average IQ.

DWornock  posted on  2010-05-13   10:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: DWornock (#54) (Edited)

They have the highest average IQ

it's likely that the smartest person in the world is chinese, because of the law of averages.

you can make a case that jews, because of their persecution myths, are overcompensating... in other words, they're terrorizing themselves into overachieving.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   10:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: DWornock (#54) (Edited)

i got to admit that jewish artists, musicians especially, do some really good stuff.

and if music is the yardstick, then you have to say that jews, statistically, are superior.

on the other hand, it's no great secret that the music biz is run by jews, so jews are gonna get preferential treatment in the industry.

and judging from my own behavior in writing music, the best stuff always came out when i was under the most stress... so what if the whole jewish schtick is based on stressing themselves into overachieving? ...what if, in service of this schtick, jews cooked up the holyhoax persecution myth?

what if the rest of us are content to sit back and take things as they come, and arent burdened with a compulsion to prove how superior we are? ...we're gonna be duck soup, arent we?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All (#56)

none of this is my fault

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-13   11:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: randge (#51)

(w)They could move all the people far out of the way, light the oil on fire, let it burn off and then all the people could return.

(r)Crews are still at work in that area trying to staunch the flow on the sea floor while other workers are trying to drill a relief valve in from the side. If BP lights it off, the area will become an impossible place to work.

(r)Burning it off, I imagine, would be the last ditch if they decide they can't stem the flow of oil from the depths while they wait weeks for the relief well to hit the leaking borehole.

How long do you think it would burn for?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   13:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Eric Stratton (#48)

Just curious, did you have to take a class to figure that out?

I have very carefully and methodically separated the procedure into 4 simple and easy to follow steps. ; )


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   13:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Eric Stratton (#59)

Exaggerators Anonymous

A 12,000 step program.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-13   13:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: wudidiz (#59)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-13   15:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: wudidiz (#60)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-13   15:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo, Pinguinite (#16)

They should seal the well closed with a nuke or similar magnitude blast under the sea floor.

What makes you or anyone think that such an event would "seal" it closed?

To my amazement, a few days ago an apparently serious radio broadcast of the BBC's "World" they interviewed a reporter in Moscow what flat out stated that the USSR used (I remember five) nukes to plug well in similar situations, but not that deep!

I am not saying they did, but that was what was reported by the BBC a day or so ago.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-05-13   19:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: tom007, Pinguinite, all (#63)

You can't seal that with a bomb blast of any magnitude; if such an event would occur, it probably would magnify the flow rate. It must be sealed with a coherent retaining system.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-13   19:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: tom007 (#63)

See DB's youtube link in comment #33. According to that, it seems plain that they did use nukes to deal with such problems.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-13   19:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: DWornock (#54)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations

IQ and the Wealth of Nations

Israel average IQ is 94 (#34)

Hong Kong averge IQ is 107 (#1)

christine  posted on  2010-05-13   20:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#64)

You can't seal that with a bomb blast of any magnitude; if such an event would occur, it probably would magnify the flow rate. It must be sealed with a coherent retaining system.

To me that's not logical. The fact is this oil has been underground for eons and has stayed there in spite of being under pressure, so it's staying there is a stable system. The only reason it's flowing up the well is because there's a steel pipe providing safe, unobstructed passage.

Simply pulling the pipe up will seal the well as the earth will then collapse the well hole under it's own weight. Assuming that's not feasible, Nuking the pipe will also collapse it. and the earth will do the rest.

The oil is 5 miles below the seafloor so even for a large nuke, moving that much earth is not going to happen. And this would need nothing more than a small nuke. Wouldn't even have to be a nuke except that you'd want the explosive device to be small enough to deliver a half mile or so under the floor.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-13   20:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine (#66)

Hong Kong averge IQ is 107 (#1)

Thanks...

Facts, truth and reality do not square with jew propaganda.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-13   20:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Cynicom (#68)

http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2009/03/28/jewish-iq-above-average-or-extraordinary/

Read this. The author is writing about Ashkenazi jews of which the US has the largest number.

Jewish IQ: Above Average or Extraordinary?

I didn’t want to discuss the Jewish Question, but so long as we are going to go there, the question of IQ is inevitable.

In my previous posts, I’ve written repeatedly that unless we discuss black-white IQ differences, we cannot understand why whites succeed and blacks fail. If IQ is not an issue, only white racism can explain why black countries are poor, why blacks don’t do well on tests, why they suffer from moral failures like lifetime welfare and divorce.

Whites don’t suffer from the morass that afflicts black societies. But Gentiles are not as successful as Jews. So let us look at the Jewish IQ.

The problems in discussing Jewish-Gentile differences are the same as White-Black gaps. IQ tests are inaccurate, IQ doesn’t matter or doesn’t matter as much, etc. I’ve discussed those issues when dealing with the Black-White gap so I won’t go into it right now.

The fact that intelligence exists, that it can be measured, that there are IQ tests that accurately measure intelligence regardless of culture and language, that SAT and similar exams correlate with IQ, and other basic facts have all been established by scientists, such as the American Psychological Association Task Force. The dispute as to the existence of such exists only in the minds of the ignorant people who haven’t studied the subject. I have no reason to waste time teaching basics to the ignorant and, therefore, will not allow any comments such as “what’s intelligence” or “there are different types of intelligence” or “IQ tests only prove your ability to take IQ tests”.

Let us go into the advanced version of the intelligence debate.

One argument for Jewish IQ is that it is not 115, but rather 107 or so, about the same range as the Germans and the Japanese.

First let us look at the Japanese because they have a high IQ of 106, live in a prosperous country, have no history of being colonized and are extremely ethnocentric/racist (intermarry less, live in their enclaves more), as reported by Jared Taylor and many others. Try asking a Japanese if he’s Chinese. He’ll start screaming at you, as if you are supposed to be an expert on Oriental ethnicities.

So why is it that they won only 16 Nobels (13 in sciences/medicine/economics, 2 in literature and one for peace) while the Jews won 178? On per capita basis, Jews are 133.5 times more likely to win a Nobel Prize.

One would think that with if IQ 106-107 plus high ethnocentricism was enough, they would be the ones to dominate. They outnumber Jews by a ratio of 12:1, so they should be the ones dominating. But they aren’t.

And what about the Germans? Their IQ is 107 and they have a wide IQ range from dull to smart. They too live in a prosperous country with outstanding universities. While ethnocentricism was beaten out of them during WWII and the subsequent de-Nazification, it cannot be denied that they had a high level of ethnocentricism from unification and until 1945.

And it’s true that Germany won more Nobel prizes, 80, than anyone else in the world. http://www.tatsachen-ueber-deutschland.de/en/education-and-research/content/background/german-nobel-prize-winners-in-the-natural-sciences-and-medicine.html?type=1

So let us compare Jews to Germans. It is not done to degrade German accomplishments, and is instead an admission of the greatness of the German people. Other than the Jews, they won the most Nobel prizes and got the highest IQ scores (or at least tied for the highest with Hong Kong).

Among German citizens who won the Nobel prize, there were at least 25 Jews: Albert Einstein, Albert Abraham Michelson, Paul Ehrlich, von Heyse, Otto Wallach, Richard Willstätter, Fritz Haber, Otto Fritz Meyerhof, Gustav Hertz (half), James Franck, Otto Heinrich Warburg (converted from Judaism to Christianity), Otto Stern, Ernst Chain, Hans Krebs, Fritz Lipmann, Max Born, Konrad Bloch, Nelly Sachs, Hans Bethe (half), Bernard Katz, Henry Kissinger, Arno Penzias, Jack Steinberger, Reinhard Selten (half) and Robert John Aumann.

I also noticed some names that sounded Russian and Bohemian, so I presume there must’ve been a couple “others” in this category.

(I am also sure that there were many Diaspora Germans who won Nobel Prizes, but they aren’t clearly identifiable by Googling. It is highly unlikely that Diaspora Germans win significantly more Nobel prizes than those still in Germany. It is not as if Germany is some illiterate, starving backwater that holds its people down.)

So let’s look at German citizens who won Nobel Prizes. Ethnic Germans won twice as many Nobel Prizes as German Jews. But they outnumbered Jews by a margin of 100 to 1 even prior to World War II. After Hitler rise, there were hardly any Jews left in Germany. So on per capita basis, German Jews were winning Nobel prizes at a rate at least 50 times greater than ethnic Germans.

One wonders how is it that even among people whose primary career-building years were under Hitler, one still finds that the Jews far outdone the Germans? Does that point to similar IQ scores? You decide, I just report.

Let’s look at it globally. Jews won 178 Nobel Prizes (of which 156 were in sciences, medicine and economics). Germans from Germany won about 45. The Jewish to German from Germany ratio of Nobel prizes is 4:1. But ethnic Germans from Germany outnumber Ashkenazis by a ratio of 1:7. That means that globally Jews won about 28 times as many Nobel prizes as Germans, per capita. This ratio actually increased with time, probably because hostility to Jews decreased and anti-Semitism became unfashionable, but also because the formerly backwards East European Jews caught up educationally with German Jews.

Again, does such a massive gap between Jewish and German Nobel prizes point to an identical IQ?

Neither does the fact Jews made up a majority of doctors and lawyers in Berlin and Vienna. My source for this is Adolf Hitler actually. He argued that the Nuremberg laws were necessary to protect Germans from “Jewish domination of intellectual life”. But how can less than 1% of the population take over intellectual life if they don’t have a higher IQ? You can be as ethnocentric as anyone, and it won’t get you to the top. It is not as if Germany was multicultist and suicidal at the time. It was a very proud, ethnocentric nation.

But let’s look at the Arabs. American Arabs score about the same as whites (because their higher classes tend to come here and the lower classes go to Europe). Nobody is more ethnocentric than the Arabs. But do they dominate our intellectual life?

It is also not a good sign that the German nuclear program and several other science projects pretty much collapsed when Jews were left. If Jews have the same IQ, why would losing less than 1% of the population matter? Poles and other East Europeans have roughly the same IQ as the average American and they are about 1% of the U.S. population. If we get rid of them, do you really think anything would be greatly harmed?

At the same time, the nuclear program in the US was dominated by Jewish immigrants under the leadership of American Jew Robert Oppenheimer.

The chief designer of the Soviet atomic bomb Yulli Khariton, a Jew. In 1939, he co-authored “Theory of Nuclear Chain Reactions” with another Jew Yakov Zeldovich, who was also instrumental in the Soviet nuclear program.

The French program was likewise run by a Jew – Bertrand Goldschmidt.

The British, incidentally, did not develop their own bomb and merely borrowed the design of the Fat Man bomb from Americans, who willingly shared it as a deterrent against Russia.

But back to Nobel prizes. As HardLogic pointed out, some are given for political reasons. So how do we know if Jewish laureates earned their honors or if their prizes have all the value of those received by Al Gore, Jimmy Carter and other politically correct individuals.

In January, I wrote in America’s Massive Black Supremacism:

Here’s how to tell if someone is discriminated or favored.

There are two criteria that I’ve thought of.

1. It is easier to discriminate against someone in inexact sciences than in math, computer programming, etc.

A program either works or it doesn’t. Period. If you hire someone incompetent, it will be immediately obvious. Same for a math equation.

For a history teacher, it is nowhere near as true. This is particularly so in “African-American/Feminist/Queer studies” where one can just say whatever he wants.

So let’s look at these industries and majors. Most black PhD’s are earned in education. Literally a majority. But how do you know if a teacher is good or bad? There’s no way to prove it. Some people like a teacher, some don’t. Good teachers in bad schools will get poor results; bad teachers in good schools will get solid results. So it’s very hard to judge objectively which teacher is better.

This allows the supervisor to hire whoever is politically correct. And we do see a lot of blacks in education, as well as in other similarly vague industries.

Now let’s look at computer programming, engineering, chemistry. Not a lot of blacks there. At all. Hard to fudge with facts there.

Using the formula, I concluded that blacks are massively favored in the United States. At the time, nobody disagreed with my logic: not conservatives, not liberals, not blacks.

Let us apply the same standard to Jewish Nobel Prizes.

* Economics (26 prize winners, 42% of world total, 56% of US total) * Physiology or Medicine (53 prize winners, 28% of world total, 41% of US total) * Physics (47 prize winners, 26% of world total, 37% of US total) * Chemistry (30 prize winners, 20% of world total, 28% of US total) * Literature (13 prize winners, 12% of world total, 27% of US total) * Peace (9 prize winners, 9% of world total, 10% of US total)

(Nobel prizes aren’t the only measure of Jewish intelligence. They are the majority of chess champions and recipients of 38% of National Medals of Science. http://www.jinfo.org/Nobel_Prizes.html)

As you can see, Jews win far more Nobel prizes in “hard” disciplines than in “soft” ones. Economics is something in the middle between hard and soft, and Jews win it at the highest rate. This may be because it is the youngest Nobel and Jews have been winning a higher percentage of these prizes since the civilization of the East European Jewry.

But when it comes to traditional disciplines (economics is given by the Royal Bank of Sweden in honor of Nobel, and is different from the rest), Jews get more science prizes than literature and more literature than peace. The more technical the field, the harder it is to bullshit, the more Jews win. The more political a prize, the less Jews win.

Using my formula for black-white achievement, one must conclude that Jews aren’t favored but discriminated against. (Not in favor of whites, but in favor of Third Worlders who get Peace and Literature prizes to give them something to be proud of and to buy them off so that they won’t bother the science judges.)

My second way of testing discrimination was by comparing business-ownership to working for a small business to working for a large corporation to working for the government. This is because a business depends on the owner, a small business relies heavily on each employee, a large business cares about work-product at least to some degree, and the government just doesn’t give a damn.

Using the formula I concluded that blacks are heavily favored because they are found least among business-owners, then in small businesses, then in large businesses and by far the most in government jobs.

Let us apply it to Jews. Business-ownership is a stereotypical Jewish occupation. At the same time, when was the last time you saw a Jewish man working for the DMV, even in New York, LA or Miami? (I am saying man here because Jewish women often work as social workers for the government and non-profits because they have wealthy husbands, and like all women of their class, they feel the need to either volunteer or do some other “do-gooder” work to prove their altruism.)

Again, we see Jews tend to succeed where success truly depends on them.

Another objective measure of IQ is chess, which depends on nothing other than the player’s skill. It is potentially the most objective measure of intelligence. Either you win or you lose. You don’t need to invest any money and nobody chooses a winner. You move your pieces until you win or lose. That Jews won a majority of chess championships is absolutely mind boggling.

Now let us look at IQ-intensive jobs that do not depend on selection (being hired as a professor, etc), but purely on easily verifiable ability.

There’s one job that depends on IQ far more than anything else – high tech.

First, one can easily test success or failure. Either software works or it doesn’t. This is particularly true in this field because tens of millions of people wind up using – and, therefore, testing – popular programs.

It is also a brand new field, so there are no family legacies, such as the West European tradition of art and the Jewish traditional involvement in banking (money lending) and precious stones/metals.

Moreover, it is not an investment-intensive field. To make cars, you need to invest huge sums of money into “brute force” labor, metal, factory construction, etc. To make a search engine or a computer operating system, all you need is a computer. Plenty of college kids with no resources developed million and billion dollar programs.

When it comes to high tech, either you can develop Google or you can’t. It’s that simple.

So how do the Jews score? Again, they are world-leaders by a significant margin.

Israel is third (and first per capita) after US and Canada on the heavily high-tech NASDAQ.

In all, the Jewish state has by far the greatest number of high tech companies per capita. It somehow managed to be #2 in the world in overall numbers, which is stunning for a country of 7 million, about 4 million of whom are Sephardics and Arabs. Guess which is the only country with more Ashkenazi Jews than Israel? The United States – and we are #1 in the overall number of high tech companies. Coincidence, no doubt.

(Israel is also #1 per capita in peer reviewed articles, patents, scientists, engineers, graduate degrees. American Jews lead all others in all these in the United States.)

American high-tech giants like Google, Cisco and Intel were developed by Jews. In the 1990s, Jewish students flooded computer programs in unprecedented numbers. Most of the people I see in the computer industry are either Jewish, Oriental or Indian (Indians who immigrate to the US have very high IQ, probably two standard deviations above that of the average Indian who stays in his country).

The ridiculously disproportionate Jewish success in high tech – which is extremely IQ intensive, could be easily verifiable for success or failure and doesn’t require any funds or family traditions – points to an extraordinarily high IQ.

There are 25 times more ethnic Germans in Germany than Ashkenazis in Israel, so why is Israel ahead of Germany in high-tech production not just per capita, but in overall numbers? How do you square this with the claim that Jews and Germans have a similar average IQ? Same question for Japan and other countries with 106-107 IQ like Holland and Taiwan.

Another thought that occurred to me while googling profiles of German Nobel prize winners is how many of them either married Jews, hired Jews in violation of Nuremberg laws, helped Jews escape or left Germany to protest Hitler’s anti-Semitism. One would expect a few people to do this. Instead, probably 70% of German Nobel Prize winners either married a Jew or broke Hitler’s law to help one.

The way to explain it is that they placed high value on Jews. Given the high level of Jews in sciences, these were the Germans who knew them best. They knew if these Jews conducted proper research and helped the country or if they were “stealing” jobs from Christians through ethnocentric manipulation. They were there watching these Jews work or at least present their findings at conferences. They could understand concepts and research we cannot even pronounce. So why did they stand by the Jews? Am I to believe Hitler, who had no scientific training, or am I to believe these world-class scientists? I report, you decide.

Finally, let us look at personality traits that are linked to IQ.

One such trait is delaying immediate gratification for greater use in the future. Rather than waste money today, a smart person saves to buy a house, pay for his child’s education, etc.

What do blacks do? They waste. Car rims, gold chains. When black Katrina victims got money from the government, they didn’t buy furniture and clothes, as whites would have. Instead, the industry that saw the biggest increase in profits, according to the NY Times, was … gambling!

Now let’s look at the Jews. Quick, say something negative about the Jews. They are…. come on, don’t be shy. Jews are… cheap! What blacks aren’t. The direct opposite of blacks. (Incidentally, Orientals are also cheap.)

But what are Jews cheap about? Are they cheap about buying real estate? No. Instead, they are cheap when it comes to daily expenses, such as wasting money in bars. Sometimes some of them take it to an irrational level (e.g., low tips and the persistent refusal to pay for friends). More often, it amounts to simply not wasting money.

But what of real estate? Here Jews go crazy spending. It’s a safe investment. It doesn’t sound like the best idea in this market, but buying for the long-term to rent out – rather than flipping, which not a particularly Jewish thing – is always profitable.

What about spending on education? Not cheap again. Car rims or even cars themselves? Very cheap.

Dollar-shaped cheap piece of gold around the neck? Never. Expensive diamonds that can be passed for generations? Not so cheap.

What about other traits?

Jews are the most likely to be married and second-least likely (behind Asians) to divorce.

Most educated, the highest vocabulary (lawyers and journalists, anyone?), least likely to be unemployed, highest occupational prestige, highest income, most likely to vote, least religious, read the most and watch the second least TV (after Asians, who might be prevented by the language barrier from watching TV).

It’s late now and I don’t have the stamina to cite all of these (I write things down, then write what I think, then enter citations, but I just don’t want to visit a dozen web pages all over again now), but I found these simply by googling, in case someone wants to double-check what I just wrote.

(One interesting stat I found said that Jews are most likely to support allowing racist speech, racist teachers and racist books in libraries – purely because it’s a Civil Liberty – and fundamentalist Protestants are the least likely. Same was true for allowing Communist speech, though.

Another interesting thing is that Jews are most likely to describe their health as excellent, which goes against the theories of exclusively Jewish diseases making them less healthy.)

All in all, one has to conclude that Ashkenazi Jews have not just a high IQ, but an extraordinary one. All signs point that way.

If you speak to IQ test experts, they will tell you that aptitude tests – including the SATs – understate scores of high groups and overstate the lower groups.

This is true when comparing blacks to whites – the gap in college performance is greater than the SAT gap.

It is also true for Asians vs. whites; Sephardis vs. Ashkenazis; Moslems vs. Christians; poor vs. rich.

If anything, the higher IQ groups are even smarter than these tests show and the lower ones are even more dull.

As a high group, Jews probably underscore on IQ tests.

Based on the evidence, Jewish average must be at least 115, maybe higher. The dominance of Jews in Nobel prizes, high tech, chess, patents, scientific papers is so radical that to suggest that the Jews are smart, but not higher than the Germans and the Japanese is utterly ridiculous.

If Jews were not more intelligent, on average, than the Japanese and the Germans, they would not win 30-130 times more Nobel prizes (and this gap is actually greater if we leave out literature and peace awards).

Jews must be significantly more intelligent than the Germans and the Japanese because their achievements are so superior. (Also, if they weren’t, why did Hitler ban IQ tests?)

Two or three points would not be significant enough to explain why Jews win 30-130 times more Nobels.

At a minimum, we are talking about a 10 point gap. Logically, we cannot suggest anything less than that.

But if you have an emotional reason why you would want to deny a high Jewish IQ, then of course nothing I’ve written matters.

As Benjamin Franklin said, “You can’t reason someone out of something that they didn’t reason themselves into.”

christine  posted on  2010-05-13   20:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine, Lod, Jethro Tull, Phant2000, All (#69)

But if you have an emotional reason why you would want to deny a high Jewish IQ, then of course nothing I’ve written matters.

Always the caveat, "you dont like Jews"...

Somewhere there is a list compiled of the all time greatest scientific minds.

Starting with Stephen Hawking and going back in time, OF THE FIRST FIFTEEN GREATEST MINDS,NONE ARE JEWS... None.

That fits their actual IQ.

There are several cultural factors that influence their outcome as lauded by this author.

One, all Jews disdain any and all physical work. With work being a non life supporter, they turn their minds to some other method of earning a living or getting by in society.

Two, Jews network their entire life. They have found over hundreds of years that being a non working parasite requires them to be very clever in advancing each other, at any cost to non Jews.

Three, there is a dark side to the Jew culture, one of horrible barbarism as a culture, degrading down to individual sexual perversions of the foulest kinds.

American history is replete with the crimes against nature, committed by Jews.

As a culture, they take great effort in hiding all their disgusting unnatural traits and propagandizing their accomplishments.

We had an example of that propaganda on this forum yesterday that was easily and factually destroyed. As soon as Jews are challenged, they go into the offensive mode of whining of anti semitism, racism or whatever.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-14   4:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine, Lod, Jethro Tull, Phant2000, All (#69)

As Benjamin Franklin said, “You can’t reason someone out of something that they didn’t reason themselves into.”

Below is what Franklin thought of the Jews, it is required reading for all Americans.

Of course the jews at once deny Ben ever wrote it, typical.

"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation was founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.

For over 1700 hundred years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But, gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only amongst themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race. If you do not exclude them from these United States in the Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands.

I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention."

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-14   4:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: christine, Cynicom (#69)

I don't know, but guess Jews dominate the decision making process for who wins the Nobel prize(s). (Remember Obama won the Peace Prize.... says a lot right there)

Because they have more money.

Having more money is not necessarily a sign of higher intelligence.

Could be (and in my opinion is likely) that due to the culture, more emphasis is put on accumulating wealth than on other things (such as being honest, virtue, integrity, honor etc.)

Behaviour (such as being crafty, cheap, conniving, manipulative) may likely be a symptom of religious/cultural influence rather than intelligence.

Did Nikola Tesla win a Nobel Prize? Was he Jewish?

Intelligence is very much overrated and misunderstood in my opinion.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-14   5:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#68)

Facts, truth and reality do not square with jew propaganda.

Brilliant deduction my good "Watson" !!!

"The smallest of frauds such as Santa Claus are perpetrated upon children by criminals in order that the largest of frauds such as the FEDERAL RESERVE may be had upon them as adults."

noone222  posted on  2010-05-14   7:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Pinguinite (#67)

The only reason it's flowing up the well is because there's a steel pipe providing safe, unobstructed passage.

What makes you think deploying a thermo-nuclear device would create a coherent and everlasting seal without further catastrophic damage to the environment?

Keep in mind, nuclear explosions have far reaching consequences beyond even a localized project.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-14   22:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo (#74)

What makes you think deploying a thermo-nuclear device would create a coherent and everlasting seal without further catastrophic damage to the environment?

All the nuke is doing is destroying the well pipe. Replace a decent length of that pipe with the same seafloor that used to be there before BP started drilling, and you'll have the same sea floor sealing it that was there before.

As for damage to the environment, if the nuke is sufficiently under the seafloor, (1 mile?) then the radiation will be virtually completely contained and won't seep into the ocean. And if the alternative to not using it is more oil leakage, then you have to weight the risk of radiation pollution with the certainty of oil pollution.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-14   23:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pinguinite (#75)

All the nuke is doing is destroying the well pipe.

What guarantee about any bomb blast shall perform that limited function without further issues and potentially exacerbating the existing situation?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-14   23:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: buckeroo (#76)

You want a guarantee? Okay, if it doesn't work, I'll give you a complete refund.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-05-15   0:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Pinguinite (#77)

A living&breathing GOD are ya?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-15   0:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pinguinite (#75)

I'd be interested to hear one good reason why they shouldn't nuke it shut.

4th generation micro-nuke. Low radiation, but like you say it would be contained anyway.

The Russians did it lots and it worked for them.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-15   0:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: groundresonance (#56)

I believe that studying and working to achieve does make a difference. However, I question that it would raise average IQs more than 4 or 5 points.

DWornock  posted on  2010-05-15   12:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine (#69)

You are smart. That is very logical. Of course, I have not researched the facts, but I agree with the logic.

DWornock  posted on  2010-05-15   13:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Cynicom (#70)

Two, Jews network their entire life. They have found over hundreds of years that being a non working parasite requires them to be very clever in advancing each other, at any cost to non Jews.

Reminds me of this jewelry commercial that is out right now. "Now you have a friend in the diamond business". I laugh every time I hear it.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-15   13:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: farmfriend (#82)

"Now you have a friend in the diamond business".

Had a Jew family member that owned a rather large jewelery store.

The entire business is so closely controlled that the markups are a swindle from beginning to end. Five hundred per cent markup was nothing.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-15   13:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom (#83)

Saw a study done once on ethnic communities and how they spend money. A black dollar leaves the black community immediately. A dollar in the Jewish community will change hands 7 times before it leave the community.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-15   13:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: farmfriend (#84)

A black dollar leaves the black community immediately. A dollar in the Jewish community will change hands 7 times before it leave the community.

That I can believe.

They used their wares to bribe all kinds of people, politicians, cops, business managers, on and on. To them everyone could be bribed. Their way of life. Cash off the books was a gold mine.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-15   13:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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