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Title: Do We Deserve a Mosque at Ground Zero?
Source: townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Dian ... eserve_a_mosque_at_ground_zero
Published: May 14, 2010
Author: Diana West
Post Date: 2010-05-14 08:09:36 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 190
Comments: 23

Do We Deserve a Mosque at Ground Zero?
Diana West
Thursday, May 13, 2010

The second attack on the World Trade Center is coming. It will stand 13 stories high, cost $100 million dollars and include a mosque. Known as Cordoba House -- the name echoing an early caliphate that, of course, subjugated non-Muslims -- it will be located two blocks away from where our magnificent towers crashed and burned, easy wafting distance for the Islamic call to prayer.

How demoralizing is that? Let's step back for some historical perspective. With the U.S. military preparing its assault on the Taliban stronghold of Kandahar, there's a not-too-wild comparison to be made between the mind-blowing reality of New York City approving a mosque at Ground Zero and the unthinkable notion of Honolulu authorities, with GIs massing for the ultimately unnecessary invasion of Japan, approving Shinto shrine construction adjacent to Pearl Harbor.

Both are equally outrageous. But there is a key difference. During World War II, the militaristic cult of Shintoism, the state religion of Imperial Japan, was always understood to be enemy ideology. In our irresponsibly long war, we have never, ever acknowledged that Islam, with its supremacist cult of jihad, is the enemy threat doctrine. And that's not because I say so. It's because the enemy says so, 24-7, and so do his mainstream, unimpeachable Islamic legal and religious sources.

But we plug our ears, drowning out our better judgment with counsel from apologists for Islam, flimflam men who, like carnival hawkers, are adept at misdirecting attention away from the Islamic doctrinal motivations behind what is a global jihad, waged both openly (violently) and more subtly, to advance the influence of Sharia in the world. Indeed, we become apologists and flimflam men, too. Or maybe we just don't care. "If it's legal, the building owners have a right to do what they want," said a spokesman for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

If it's "legal"? What if it mocks the dead?

Maybe we deserve such a mosque at Ground Zero. It will serve as the perfect monument to post-9/11 America, a shining reproach to a nation that long ago capitulated through loss, or worse, absence of will. Not that it will be widely seen that way. Aside from the torment and seething of survivors, both family and professional family of the 9/11 dead, aside from blog noise and tabloid venting, the phony narrative of Cordoba House as a kind of healing outreach center -- pure deception -- appears ready for chiseling into stone. And that's not because Cordoba's flimflamming Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf obfuscates everything negative about Islam (jihad, for instance), and promotes everything antithetical to Western liberty (Sharia), often with jarring Western references. ("To Muslim ears," he writes, "Sharia law means ... the conditions necessary for what Americans call the pursuit of happiness.") That is, it's not only the efforts of Imam Rauf that are the problem. It's because nearly nine years after 9/11, we are still stupid enough to buy them.

Why? Why do we take it, with Rauf, for example, at his Cordoba Initiative website, still pushing the propaganda that jihad only and merely "boils down to the need for peaceful struggle for self-betterment -- the war we wage against the vices within ourselves." Please. Surely, nine years after 9/11, we know there exists "greater" jihad, the personal struggle against Islamic vice, which means nothing to non-Muslims. But we're also onto (or should be) the other jihad, the one that took down the towers. Sometimes known as "lesser" jihad, it's the first definition of jihad in the authoritative Sharia book, "Reliance of the Traveler": "Jihad means to war against non-Muslims," it says, adding that jihad is also a "communal obligation" in one form (fighting) or another (support). Defining jihad as a clean-living effort is an insult to everyone's intelligence.

Or is it? The land is bought -- with $4.85 million in unaccounted for cash -- and the project is a go. Short of colossal public outcry leading to an administrative miracle, Cordoba House will join the Manhattan skyline, a multiculti vision of togetherness.

Of course, that's the flimflam story. But if Ground Zero, a focal point of Dar al-Harb (House of War) since 9/11, is reconstructed with a "world class" Islamic center, the transformation to Dar al-Islam (House of Islam) becomes symbolically clear.

And that's no way to treat our 9/11 dead.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

You know, it is actually really tasteless. Regardless of what any here or on other sites believe or don't believe, the families of the dead from 9/11 won't see this as anything but sheer ugly salt ground into their wounds.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-14   8:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

We're still waiting for someone to prove that there were any Arabs on those planes.

Absent evidence, STFU.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-05-14   8:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   9:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

It will serve as the perfect monument to post-9/11 America, a shining reproach to a nation that long ago capitulated through loss, or worse, absence of will.

Perhaps a synagogue would be more fitting.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-14   9:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: abraxas (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   9:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

The idea is insanity, and if it's constructed, I'd love to watch it ripped down, brick, by brick.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-14   9:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   9:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

The idea is insanity, and if it's constructed, I'd love to watch it ripped down, brick, by brick.

All that needs to happen if for the homeys to get together and buy big buckets of hog lard and fill the thing up the day they finish the construction. Or maybe just run a herd of hogs through the thing right after they put the last coat of paint on it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-14   10:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton, JD (#7)

Our own Government is agitating things to the ultimate.

They sit there and try to force people to get along that otherwise have conflicting ideologies, often in direct and vehement contradiction to one another. Meanwhile, they shelter themselves from the same things that they attempt to foist onto others.

Nailed!

Major bump

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-14   10:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Thanks.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-14   11:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I don't pretend to speak for (nor read the minds of) survivors of the WTC attack, but there is no legal means of preventing the set-up of a mosque in the financial district. The NYC zoning board might try to frustrate construction of a new building, but there is nothing to prevent this mosque group from buying or leasing a building that already exists and turning it into a mosque and Islamic center. Some obscure little provision in the US Constitution gives them that right.

There are, after all, a lot of Moslems working in the financial district, from the streets to the suites, and a great deal of the money now moving around Wall Street belongs to Moslem investors (including governments). So a convenient place to worship is only sensible. There was a time, long ago, when there were a number of synagogues in the financial district for similar reasons.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-05-14   12:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Shoonra (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   12:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

If i was King, and by God I should be, I'd kick almost all Muslims out of this country, tear down every mosque, and kick out almost all of the blacks, Jews and Mexicans. And those Left Behind fundies, too.

Give me time and I'll think of more.

Oh, yeah, and I'd hang almost all politicians.

Let me think some more.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-05-14   12:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Then I'd disbar about 90% of the lawyers.

Let me think some more.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-05-14   12:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Then I'd close down the Federal Reserve.

Still thinking.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-05-14   12:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

The 9-11 families set themselves up for this when they bought into the idea that "ground zero" needed to become a bunch of shrines and other symbolic structures rather than simply rebuilding the towers. Phillipe Petit, the WTC tightrope walker wrote an essay called "Com Era Dov Era" in which he said rebuilding what was destroyed, albeit with some modifications, was the best possible act of defiance. He used the example of a tower in Venice that collapsed during an earthquake and then was rebuilt brick by brick as an example.

strepsiptera  posted on  2010-05-14   17:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle (#13)

And those Left Behind fundies, too.

Glad you're not king.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-14   17:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: strepsiptera (#16)

Phillipe Petit, the WTC tightrope walker wrote an essay called "Com Era Dov Era" in which he said rebuilding what was destroyed, albeit with some modifications, was the best possible act of defiance. He used the example of a tower in Venice that collapsed during an earthquake and then was rebuilt brick by brick as an example.

They rebuilt it as an "act of defiance" against an earthquake?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-14   17:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

In fact, let's tear down the Crapitol and put one up on there too.

Done....we shall refer to it as the Shrine to AIPAC. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-14   18:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: abraxas (#19)

Done....we shall refer to it as the Shrine to AIPAC. : )

Beeeg dome, for aiming point.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-14   18:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: James Deffenbach (#18)

Saw Campanile Fall

Actually its not clear what caused the collapse. Petit's point was that you should just rebuild. Here is a 19th century New York Times article about the collapse. (link above)

strepsiptera  posted on  2010-05-14   20:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: strepsiptera (#21)

Thanks for the link. Interesting story.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-14   21:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#19)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   21:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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