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Title: Joe Lieberman’s Fascist agenda to strip Americans of their Constitutional Rights
Source: LA Nonpartisan Examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-9462-LA-N ... of-their-Constitutional-Rights
Published: May 14, 2010
Author: Robert Stark
Post Date: 2010-05-14 10:10:38 by bush_is_a_moonie
Keywords: None
Views: 134
Comments: 10

Senator Joe Lieberman is sponsoring a Bill with Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown called the "Terrorist Expatriation Act" that would strip terrorist suspects on their citizenship. The bill applies to any American that supports a foreign terrorist organization or any organization that is deemed a supporter of terrorism by an ally of the United States. The bill gives the State Department the power to determine who is a terrorist and strip away their citizenship.

Lieberman introduced the Bill stating "The State Department will make an administrative determination… the State Department will now have the authority to revoke their citizenship… they will not enjoy the rights and privileges of American citizenship in the legal proceedings against them…. he could then be tried by military commission as the Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent that he is."

Even though Lieberman claims the Bill is to target Americans who have joined Islamic Terrorist Organizations such as Al Qaeda, it has implications affecting many American political dissidents not just those who one would usually think of as terrorist. Hypothetical scenario's that the bill might apply to are Americans such as former Congresswomen Cynthia McKinney who are helping out Palestinians in Gaza with food and medical aid. Since Israel considers Hamas a terrorist organization and Israel is considered as ally by the US Government.

Another scenario is American Patriots who are helping out the Afrikaner Resistance Movement which is secessionist movement in South Africa. Lets say the ANC Government in South Africa declares the movement a terrorist organization and the US state department decides to go after Americans who are helping the organization.

Joe Lieberman also sponsored another Bill in the Senate with John McCain called the "Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act. This Bill which has been described as the "Patriot Act on Steroids" gives the President the power to determine if an individual poses a terrorist threat so that they can be detained and interrogated. Under this Bill the suspects would loose their Miranda rights and Sixth Amendment Right to an Attorney and fair trial.

McCain explained it stating "we still don't have a clear mechanism, legal structure, and implementing policy for dealing with terrorists who we capture in the (alleged) act of trying to bring about attacks on the United States and our national security interests at home and abroad."

Lieberman added "These are not common criminals. They are war criminals. Anyone we capture in this war should be treated as a prisoner of war, held by the military, interrogated for information that will protect Americans and help us win this war and then where appropriate, tried not in a normal federal court where criminals are tried but before a military commission."

These two bill sponsored by Joe Lieberman tie in to each other. One bill strips Americans of their citizenship and other of their right to a fair trial once they loose their citizenship. Many conservatives supported the Patriot Act under Bush thinking it would only be against Islamic Extremist but now Obama can use it to go after those in the Tea Parties and Patriot Movement who have already been labeled by the establishment as "domestic terrorist".

These bills create a dictatorship were the State Department is given the power the strip the rights of any American citizen especially political dissidents. Maybe some day when Americans take back their country this law may be used against the same traitors who are behind this bill who also happen to have ties to foreign terrorist.

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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   10:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Then, two years later, it will include "any American that supports a domestic terrorist organization or any organization that is deemed a supporter of terrorism" and will include anyone not registered as a Republican or Democrat and anyone associated with any group that expresses dissent with the Regime.

Actually read your quote, it already says that.

The bill applies to any American that supports a foreign terrorist organization or any organization that is deemed a supporter of terrorism by an ally of the United States.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-14   10:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Lieberman added "These are not common criminals. They are war criminals. Anyone we capture in this war should be treated as a prisoner of war, held by the military, interrogated for information that will protect Americans and help us win this war and then where appropriate, tried not in a normal federal court where criminals are tried but before a military commission."

No, you sniveling little schmuck, they're not war criminals. The last war criminals were tried at the Nuremberg trials in the mid-late 1940's. There is no declaration of war right now, at all, and there hasn't been one passed by Congress since 1941. If they were war criminals, we'd be in a congressionally declared war right now, and you wouldn't need this bill.

That's the trick isn't it, trying to claim we need this because we're "at war", when it is precisely because we're not at war, that you need this (or rather, claim to).

How dare this seditious, traitorous little prick.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-14   10:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SonOfLiberty (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-14   11:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

Unfortunately, there is no definition of terrorist and hasn't been one since at least 2001. It's all a matter now of whether some government goon calls you one or not, spur of the moment, regardless of what you're doing or not doing.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-14   11:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Lieberman introduced the Bill stating "The State Department will make an administrative determination… the State Department will now have the authority to revoke their citizenship… they will not enjoy the rights and privileges of American citizenship in the legal proceedings against them…. he could then be tried by military commission as the Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent that he is."

This is nothing more or less than a tool for a repressive police state. Like in Russia when you became a "non-person" under the Soviet regime. It is an attempt to again bypass the constitution and the fundamental guarantee of a right to a fair trial. Joe Lieberman (I - Israel) should be stripped of his citizenship and shipped off to rot in the land of his masters, the Rothschilds, in Rothschildia a.k.a. Israel where he holds citizenship as well. Lieberman is an American in name only and his American Citizenship is nothing more than a fig leaf to hide his fifth column loyalties and agenda.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-14   11:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)

Lieberman is the kind of filthy politician, just like during the 1930's in Nazi Germany, who promoted the kind of legislation that brought about one of the most diabolical events in human history.

I am convinced more than ever that the Nazis had all their laws written by a Jewish Born leadership. No other group of people on this earth have been so diabolical in their practices.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-05-14   12:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)

A Constitutional Amendment should be passed that states that a person who holds dual citizenship cannot be a member of congress or any administration position. The important issue is where does such a person's loyalty lie - with the U.S. or the other country? We know where these politicians loyalties lie just from their voting records....

Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Joseph Lieberman, Carl Levin, Frank Lautenberg, Charles Schumer, Jane Harman, Howard Waxman, Rahm Emanuel and a few others... and not all of them have dual citizenship but it is obvious they are Israel Firsters

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-05-14   12:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)

Lieberman is a Lubavitcher.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-05-14   12:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#8)

A Constitutional Amendment should be passed that states that a person who holds dual citizenship cannot be a member of congress or any administration position. The important issue is where does such a person's loyalty lie - with the U.S. or the other country? We know where these politicians loyalties lie just from their voting records....

Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Joseph Lieberman, Carl Levin, Frank Lautenberg, Charles Schumer, Jane Harman, Howard Waxman, Rahm Emanuel and a few others... and not all of them have dual citizenship but it is obvious they are Israel Firsters

It is also interesting to note that if you, as an American, serve in any Armed Forces other than the United States you lose your citizenship - with one exception - Israel. The glaring double standard and subversion of our government by Shittylittlestan and its masters in the Banking District of London is so glaring as to be nearly blinding. It is like a beacon shining out saying "here lies danger and death".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-14   12:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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