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Title: The Civil War Begins - Arizona threatens to cut off power to Los Angeles over immigration law boycott
Source: www.abc15.com
URL Source: http://www.abc15.com/content/financ ... on/RBINaWwt1kOaUTJxnHs5Xg.cspx
Published: May 19, 2010
Author: by: Dave Biscobing
Post Date: 2010-05-19 08:46:23 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 2151
Comments: 139

Arizona energy official calls L.A.'s bluff on total boycott

Reported by: Dave Biscobing Email: dbiscobing@abc15.com Last Update: 5/18 11:16 pm

PHOENIX -- Last week, Los Angeles officially boycotted Arizona to send a message about the state's new immigration law.

Now, the Arizona Corporation Commission is sending back a message of their own.

On Tuesday, Commissioner Gary Pierce wrote a letter to the Los Angeles Mayor and City Council. He said the intention was to "call them out," and see if they are committed to truly cut off all Arizona resources.

"I don't think they thought this through," Pierce said. "There are consequences that involve energy."

Across Arizona, Los Angeles gets 25 percent of its power from three plants, including the Palo Verde Nuclear Station.

The state can't literally pull the plug as the city owns the power.

But if tough-talking Los Angeles officials really decide to go through with this boycott fully, then they will have to go without this electricity.

"You can't call a boycott on the candy store and then pick and choose the candy you really want," Pierce said. "You either boycott or you don't."

However, Los Angeles councilmembers have been perhaps the most outspoken about Senate Bill 1070.

"We want them to be the last state to do this," Councilmember Janice Hahn said after the city first threatened boycotts. "We think we have a lot of leverage over that state."

"This is not a paper resolution. It is real," added Councilmember Ed Reyes after the boycott was approved.

When the Los Angeles City Council made their vote, they were given a report that contained information about the city's contracts with Arizona.

It did not include agreements about water and power.

"I think this boycott is going to backfire," Pierce said. "And they are just going to want it to go away."

After the letter was sent, the Arizona Corporation Commission said by the end of the day, they received dozens of calls and more than 100 emails in support from officials of 18 different states.

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#49. To: Eric Stratton (#46)

I had a first time too - also growing potatoes. What I used the first time for limited space was one of those open bottom plastic compost bins - the ones that are a plastic sheet, with holes in the side, that you hook together with wing-nuts - the metal kind. You start by putting a layer of compost and straw in the bottom, lay in your seed potatoes about 12 inches apart, cover with compost, and wait for them to start sprouting and growing. As they grow up you just add extra straw and compost to cover the lower few inches of the plants, let them grow some more, and repeat as they grow. Potatoes, like tomatoes, will produce new roots from the buried part of the stalks. In the case of potatoes more roots = more potatoes. Just remember that potatoes are heavy feeders and require plenty of water. Use a good liquid fertilizer fortified with a little extra liquid calcium. The only way to learn is to just do it. I started out knowing very little, but here 20 some odd years down the road I am finally a little less ignern't. However, I still learn new stuff every year.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-19   21:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Eric Stratton (#47)
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Actually, amid all the discussion of growing crops, I was thinking that we should have some summertime tunes, ... how 'bout a little Diesel!

That's a good tune.....I can see why you like that video Eric. lol

More in line with the gardening, I've found this Garden Song with muppets. : )

Inch by Inch Row by Row

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-19   21:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: abraxas (#50)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-19   21:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: wudidiz (#48)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas (#50)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

lol.......we need Captain Vegtable to round up those veggies for some singing lessons.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-19   21:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Eric Stratton (#54)

I think the best thing to do would be to buy a bunch of rice. Rice and beans.

Stock up. The more the better. Put the bags of rice in garbage bags and put the garbage bags in big tupperware containers.

Then bury them. Don't tell anyone where you buried them.

Not ever your wife.

lol : )


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-19   21:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: wudidiz (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Eric Stratton (#52)

Take a big big honor guard with you. Home made claymores are good for that.

LOL

Yes, good "garden" defense mechanisms.

I know how to make all sorts of handy "garden defense" "tools". Did you know that a light coating of dirt can be supported by the moss around a bunch of needle sharp spikes? Looks just like solid ground. What kind of a fiend would set something like that up? And then put jellied gasoline in there to boot? 1001 uses for old styrofoam. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-19   21:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Eric Stratton (#58)

Oh yeah, screw my wife and kids. It's every man for himself when TSHTF!

No, no. Share it with her and them of course. Just don't tell them where it is cuz that way they can never let the secret out.

The coveted rice will be safe.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-19   21:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Original_Intent (#59)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-19   21:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I HATE THIS GOVERNMENT.

I have the same reaction to what we see in D.C. There is nothing happening in that land of ne'er-do-wells that will ever make our lives easier, more productive and/or more meaningful.

I, too, have lived a life that has given me so much more than I ever contemplated -- all 72+ years!!! I just hope that when I make my exit I can still carry on good conversation with some of those I have so enjoyed here ... and maybe even get some graphics from you, Flint and Lucomo. LOL

Phant2000  posted on  2010-05-19   21:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Phant2000 (#62) (Edited)

I can get graphic at times - but not with someone old enough to be, err, uh, a big sister?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-19   22:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#63)

... but not with someone old enough to be, err, uh, a big sister?

I understand your hesitation (err, uh, a big sister) in addressing "big". Don't worry, I won't bite.

By the way, I stole some of your gardening expertise. I don't wanna die without a full stomach!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2010-05-19   22:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#44)

Got a much better plan. Have for years now. And trust me, If I get hungry enough, I'm going "shopping" at my neighbors victory garden. He best but lots of toothpicks to keep his eyes open :P

Be nice man. If somebody was prescient enough to grow a good garden to survive on, they're on our side. Stealing would just be wrong in that case.

Now if you wanted to knock over a government "relief" cheese truck, sign me up as a helping hand on that one. :)

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   8:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Eric Stratton (#54)

You can get Excalibur dehydrators (the only brand I would ever recommend) off eBay for ~$149.00 and up. Adjustable thermostat, and get the 15 square foot drying space types, the more the better. Those things dry super fast compared to the crap 'as seen on TV!' ones that take forever and make huge messes.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   8:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: SonOfLiberty (#66)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   8:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Eric Stratton (#67)

Thanks! I'll have to look into them. Still, they take electricity to operate, no?

Yes. It's a tool to use for immediate dehydrating of things you can buy from the store (veges/fruits and some jerky). You can put through tons of produce in one of those very quickly, seal it in vacuum bags and if you do it enough, be good for a year or at least a couple of months. Since time is of the essence, it seems like the best tool for the job.

After electricity goes out, you can fall back on either canning, or construct a no electricity dehydrator out of wood, mesh screen and a decent sized window (assuming you have a hand drill and saws). Of course you could just lay the stuff out on the back porch in the sun, but I have something of an issue letting swarms of flies defecate all over drying food.

I'm thinking just a good stock of dried rice and beans for immediate action.

Rice is a semi-poor storage staple, it will last you a year tops unless you freeze dry it and #10 can it. Whole kernel wheat and beans on the other hand, will keep you in bread and beans for a long time (don't forget to hold back lots of salt as well, which stores indefinitely). Ensure that if you have whole grain anything, that you have a good hand grinder.

No matter what you choose though, if it is bulk stuff like grains/rice/beans, ensure that you kill any critter eggs in it before you store it in oxygen free mylar bags (stuffed inside 5 gallon buckets). It's an easy thing to do, get some dry ice, put a 5-6 gallon mylar bag in a 5 gallon bucket, fill it half way with the staple, throw in a chunk of dry ice, fill the rest of the way with the staple, throw in another chunk of dry ice, and put the lid on the bucket loosely, let the air bleed out. Seal the bucket after that and let the CO2 kill all the critter eggs. Seal the bag with a household iron after throwing a desiccant inside and you're good for 5-7 years most of the time (and probably a year after you open it).

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   8:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: SonOfLiberty (#68)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   8:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Eric Stratton (#69)

Would there be critter eggs in store-bought rice bags?

All grain contains critter eggs, Eric.

Even milling flour doesn't destroy them. Keep a bag of flour long enough and you will see teeny mealy bug worms spawning in it, even if you've kept it sealed.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-05-20   8:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: randge (#70)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   9:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Eric Stratton (#69)

Would there be critter eggs in store-bought rice bags?

Processors work under the assumption that you aren't going to store the product long term, so you can't count on there NOT being critter eggs in the product. It's always best to be safe and debug everything from a dry goods/grain perspective. Last thing you want is to have your last 50 pounds of rice, that you need to keep you family alive just long enough to let garden produce come in, be full of worms. The cost of dry ice is nominal and it only takes a few minutes per batch.

I've got some of those foodsealing bags, are those good for this?

I'm not terribly thrilled with those. I mean yes, they work great for normal home use in normal times, especially to help prevent freezer burn and extend freezer life, or to seal stuff for camping. But ultimately plastic lets air and light in, and the food WILL degrade. The machines they sell in the store, IMHO, are good for normal "good" times use only, not long term storage.

Where does one by 5-6 gal. mylar bags?

http://www.usaemergencysupply.com is where I buy my bags and desiccants. Good prices, extremely fast shipping.

I normally get the non-resealable ones for the 5-6 gallon bags, quite a few non-resealable ones for 1-2 gallon bags, and then a bundle of resealable ones for everyday use after you'd open a non-resealable.

Also, will an iron seal that shut?

You bet!

Squeeze out air (carefully), throw in a handful of dessicants, lay the edge of the bag on a 2x4 piece of wood, iron it shut, throw the bag in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, label the bucket, seal it, you're good for 5-7 years.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   9:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Eric Stratton (#71)

Yep, the things in the eggs are living, and without air seeping through the egg shell, they can't breath and die.

I've heard people deep freezing them as well, but I'm not certain that would work well, don't use that method myself. Figure nature already has natural "deep freezes" that bugs always seem to survive.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   9:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Eric Stratton (#71)

But the dry ice method will prevent that, right?

From everything I've read, this is supposed to be effective.

The CO2 storage procedure is on my program the next couple of weeks, Eric.

I see psyops everywhere.

randge  posted on  2010-05-20   9:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: SonOfLiberty (#72)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   9:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: randge, SonOfLiberty (#74)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   9:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Eric Stratton (#76) (Edited)

You only leave it ajar for a minute or two, enough to let the oxygen out from CO2 pressure, then you seal it up and let it stand a while (I do an hour, but I'm rather paranoid sometimes about bugs in food). After that, unseal, pour into bag, throw in desiccants, iron it shut, put bucket lid back on, label, you're golden.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   9:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: SonOfLiberty (#77)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   9:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Eric Stratton (#78)

They do in mine. I have the 5 gallon orange buckets/lids I get from Home Depot for like $4.00 each, sturdy enough. The bucket only serves to provide hard walled protection around the mylar bags, and also to provide a place to de-bug product, nothing more.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   9:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: SonOfLiberty (#79)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   10:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: SonOfLiberty (#65)

Be nice man. If somebody was prescient enough to grow a good garden to survive on, they're on our side. Stealing would just be wrong in that case.

Don't get me wrong, some great info here for those who want to save a buck, but this isn't about survival, IMO. I went thru this heavily when I was convinced the earth was going to end when the clocks struck midnight, 010100. IMO, if people are hungry, and signs of food exist in your home, garden, roof or tub, you will have your hands full, regardless of which side anyone is on. Again, no offense intended, I'm simply saying people eat each other when confronted with true survival.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-20   10:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Eric Stratton (#80)

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Debug first, then put a bag in a bucket and pour the debugged product into the bag. Seal. The bags must be stored in the buckets, as mylar is highly susceptible to having holes poked into it. A bucket per 5-6 gallon bag is what you'll ultimately want. :) Some people debug right in the mylar (mylar in bucket, product in bag, debug, seal, close bucket lid, done).

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   10:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SonOfLiberty (#82)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   10:15:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

Don't get me wrong, some great info here for those who want to save a buck, but this isn't about survival, IMO. I went thru this heavily when I was convinced the earth was going to end when the clocks struck midnight, 010100. IMO, if people are hungry, and signs of food exist in your home, garden, roof or tub, you will have your hands full, regardless of which side anyone is on. Again, no offense intended, I'm simply saying people eat each other when confronted with true survival.

I meant just you. Don't want those on "our" side robbing me blind. Ask for some food and I'll give what I can. Steal at midnight and ten to one you won't even hear the shot. :)

When it gets to the point of roaming bands of cannibals, I suspect we'll already be at our farm out in the country. Folks out there are already more or less self sufficient and we already know most of them well. Bands of cannibal zombies don't stand a chance against a town full of well armed well fed sharp shooting country boys.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   10:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Eric Stratton (#83) (Edited)

How long would you say a five-gallon pail would last in terms of food supply?

Depends on what you have in it and how your family eats honestly. High calorie, high nutrition items like grains and beans can go quite a while if you're frugal. You'll need to implement and follow dietary regimens that you probably aren't used to right now. If you can manage to secure some meat or if you pressure can meat now, that will really help pack on the calories and extend the usefulness of a bucket exponentially. Don't ration food so much in an emergency that you have no energy to get more once it runs out. If you can get 2000 calories per day in, you're set.

The best way to know is to try "the way" for a while and see how it pans out. You'll need to know how to make the things from the grains and beans that keep everybody interested in eating. Starving, believe it or not, sometimes doesn't induce people to eat if what they have to eat they find distasteful (strange but true). Rotate through a bucket and unseasoned meat and plain veges for a while, see how long it lasts, what spices you really wanted and what you ran out of first, etc, to give you a baseline.

Beans? Whatever you like really, they're all pretty damned good for you. They lose nutritional value fast though through age, so ensure that once you decide you get them stored and out of oxygen fast. We like pinto and navy beans.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-20   10:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: SonOfLiberty (#84)

I meant just you. Don't want those on "our" side robbing me blind

I understand, and as I said earlier in this thread, I'll personally be fertilizer for your garden before the very hungry hordes come - and come they will. So I'm not your potential problem. My investment in lead was never intended to defend a pea patch. Nothing personal, but should this end time survival scenario actually come, I'll be the lucky one having chosen to depart on my terms, early on.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-20   10:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: SonOfLiberty (#85)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-20   10:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Original_Intent (#31)

I can't remember what thread it was on and I should have saved it when I saw it, but I believe it was you who mentioned a certain grain to grown in the garden. I believe it began with an "a". Thanks for your help.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2010-05-20   13:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: SonOfLiberty, Eric Stratton (#19)

My fruits are doing pretty well. Have to work on the Raspberries. They are in year two and will produce some fruit, but they should be further along and they are. I didn't handle the drainage and soil right the first go-round. So when I fix it over the next couple weeks, they should do much better late this season and especially next. I have four Blueberry bushes, but these are only the 2-4 foot variety and will produce fruit only once a season starting in a few weeks. I need at least two more of the type that grows 4-6 feet and produces twice a year. I'm near a local nursery that has some. My strawberries have done very well. 6 plants have become 18 and they are producing good fruit now. I've discovered you don't need many strawberry plants to wind up with a lot. They send out runners and sprout up new plants throughout the growing season. I'm lucky enough to have a mature self-pollinating Red Delicious. I've paired it with a Gala that is in year two and I am letting it fruit this year.

"What began in Russia will end in America."- 1930, Elder Ignatius of Harbin, Manchuria.

scooter  posted on  2010-05-20   14:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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