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Title: Does anyone else have the feeling of impending doom?
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Published: May 21, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-05-21 09:18:47 by Jethro Tull
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I can't shake the uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. This isn't a typical "bad day feeling." It's the first time in my life that I feel I'm not in control of my future.

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#55. To: wudidiz (#53)

Happy May Long Weekend 4um : )

thanks buddy, you too.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-22   2:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent, lod, jethro tull, christine, psusa (#26)

feeling of impending doom?

No. i don't believe in timelines because they are most always b.s. and do nothing but discredit the one predicitng the timetable. I think the country will continue to become a sh!thole slowly over the next 30+ years. six, twelve, eighteen months from now we will all still be here posting about the impending gloom and doom, great depression and police state.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-22   2:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Original_Intent (#54)

Still an excellent post as always of course. Just thought I'd throw some humor in there. Friday night and all. Are you able to watch it?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-22   2:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: wudidiz (#57)

Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately I am still on snail-net. Phone lines are too dirty for DSL and I refuse to get cable - or pay extra for internet for not having cable. Comcast can stick it where it will receive miniscule amounts of solar illumination.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-22   3:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Artisan, Jethro Tull, Lod, Christine, Phant2000 (#56)

six, twelve, eighteen months from now we will all still be here posting about the impending gloom and doom, great depression and police state.

Art...

Looking into the future with a keen intellect one has to "weigh" the odds. Those odds must be calculated using history as the dominant factor, adding current conditions as a modifier, then and only then deciding the odds, for or against future happenings.

In your assessment above, you left out the most historical factor of all time, namely war. Without war, as the very basic factor of history, the odds are so skewed as to be meaningless.

It takes years of preparation for major wars, many years. All the warning signs are there if one looks for them. All it takes is for the right cast of characters to appear on stage for the event.

WE are preparing for the next world war, the stage is being set, all that is needed is for the actors to come on stage.

As a historical example, a review of history tells us that ninety days after the close of WW1, plans were drawn up by Germany for the next invasion of France, invasion because the future would deem it necessary. Hitler was still a corporal in the German Army, Duce, Roosevelt, Churchill and Togo were on the scene but not players, yet.

The very same year, 1919, this countrie's thinkers and planners, KNEW, that in the near future, that Japan would strike the United States. In early 1920s, this country started making preparations for the next war. We knew who the enemy would be, why they would come and that there was nothing we could do to stop it, THAT WE WOULD SUFFER GREAT LOSSES. We did.

So, history learned, is the fundamental factor in looking ahead.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-22   8:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: wudidiz (#53)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   8:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Artisan (#56)

No. i don't believe in timelines because they are most always b.s. and do nothing but discredit the one predicitng the timetable.

Yep.

There's been many times when I thought "this shit can't go on any more", and it goes on and actually becomes an even bigger pile of crap.

Sooner or later it's going to stop because the tipping point has been FINALLY reached. I just learned not to predict when, based only on my own feelings at the time.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-05-22   8:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Artisan, Original_Intent, lod, jethro tull, christine, psusa, All (#56)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   9:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Eric Stratton (#62)

Good post, Eric.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-22   9:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: James Deffenbach (#63)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   9:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#53)

Thank you, what it    .

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-22   9:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#59)

your post brings to mind the adages, the best predictor of future behaviour is past and history repeats itself.

"Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry — all forms of fear — are caused by too much future, and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness, and all forms of nonforgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence" - The Power of Now

christine  posted on  2010-05-22   10:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Eric Stratton (#62)

Anyway, the whole house of cards is teetering precariously supported by much too small an economic base. Manufacturing, the real basis for any economy whether it's clothes, books, consumer goods, autos, appliances, etc., has fled this nation drastically leaving us in Douche Lameblow's world of how for some reason the service industry has to "come to America" for people to staff it, which obviously hasn't happened as much of "our nation's" customer service centers are now overseas, or at least out of our country.

Anyway, what will largely determine what happens is how people that are used to either cush jobs at overbloated salaries/compensations, or those living off of entitlements, handle things when the goods stop flowing, ... as they eventually will, now becoming sooner than later.

I've always held the view that it won't be the self-supporters and self-employed like us that will cause the problems, it will be those that have believed the bullshit that they've been fed, which runs contrary to common sense, the laws of mathematics, reason, and decent morals, that somehow it's "their right to have a high-paying job," or "their right to have money provided by 'government'"

you nailed it. add that a large majority of americans are employed by and/or dependent on government including millions of illegals. Lindsey Williams has predicted that within 2 yrs, we'll all be working for government.

related: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=118206

"Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry — all forms of fear — are caused by too much future, and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness, and all forms of nonforgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence" - The Power of Now

christine  posted on  2010-05-22   10:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Eric Stratton (#62)

Very well said. All of it.

ALl of this is what proves to me that the PTB are not just in over their heads, but they are drowning. Fuck all if I will throw them a life vest. All of these bailouts and wars etc are them grasping at whatever straws they can find to keep them afloat.

How to prepare for it is difficult since we have no idea what will shake out.

I plan on letting the pigs and the niggers and other vermin fight it out and destroy each other. If they leave me alone, I'll leave them alone. If they fuck with me or mine, I don't mind killing them.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-05-22   10:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Eric Stratton (#62)

So, what's going to happen and when? Well, since we are currently living on debt that our creditors realize we cannot pay off, yet while simultaneously hooked on our credit spending as a nation, what is going to happen?

Very good thinking.

When the bottom is reached in the financial world, due to debt, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE THE POOREST COUNTRY ON EARTH...

With the strongest military arsenal ever known to mankind.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-22   11:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Cynicom (#69)

THIS COUNTRY WILL BE THE POOREST COUNTRY ON EARTH...

A quick "google" of the Cloward/Piven strategy, and a quick read of several explanations of that strategy, will prove that this administration is right on schedule to turn this country into the poorest on earth.

There is no doubt in MY mind that the POTUS IS a communist, but the orders are given by those handling him. He hasn't the intellect or the experience to do much more than read a teleprompter and point a finger.

Phant2000  posted on  2010-05-22   14:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine (#67)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   20:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: PSUSA (#68)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   20:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#69)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   20:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Eric Stratton (#73)

With the strongest military arsenal ever known to mankind.

Note I stated..ARSENAL...

Not Army.

Grunt wise we are very weak, that is why Obumski needs to boost them by 100,000.

The problem is, there are not enough volunteers to accomplish that.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-22   21:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Cynicom (#74)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   21:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Eric Stratton (#75)

I have to disagree.

The shadow governments are calling the shots.

Not the de jour govs that we see.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-22   21:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Lod (#76)

The shadow governments are calling the shots.

Not the de jour govs that we see.

Amen and Amen brother.

Obumski was created and will be discarded when no longer of value.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-22   21:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Eric Stratton (#75)

Sorry, but when the Government finally shits its pants economically, short of looking like a spray painted liquid nightmare, the rest of the world is going to tell us to go get bent when it comes to them manufacturing more for us.

Sorry, but you are going to pay, BIG-TIME. The "government" is everywhere in America; it is pervasive from the local dog-pound attempting to register your mutt that keep in your home to 0bama lauding how great illegals are to invade America. How does the government move forward disproving your own or personal forecast? Your tax-payer dollars and diminishing value of income while you lose your personal liberties.

And it isn't new.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   21:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Lod (#76)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   21:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#78)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   21:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Eric Stratton (#80)

If the economy collapses, the shadow government(s) lose at least a large degree of control and could very well be set back decades.

And what about yourself and family and friends and business acquaintances? What are you going to do, hunker down in a cheap, lead-lined locker in your front or back yard as In the Cuba Crisis back in the sixties?

The question is not about "IF"; the question is about whom can repel the efforts. Are you?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   21:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: buckeroo (#81)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   22:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#82)

IMO we're all fucked.

That is the problem with this thread by Jethro Tull. The world isn't in a sink hole.

If you have stamina, capability and capacity, you can withstand a lot of the torment that is going on while laughing at it.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   22:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   22:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Eric Stratton (#84)

Since the beginning of mankind's history ( you seem fairly educated and astute ) what new news are you bringing to the forum?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   22:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#85)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   23:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Eric Stratton (#86)

Frankly, what we're facing today, globally, is epochal, not simply "another routine phase" of human history.

Otherwise please elaborate.

And? You want my opinion, 'eh?

We live longer than anyone in history with the most awesome capabilities ever. We are, indeed, fortunate to live in the world today knowing the precedents that gave us this bounty.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   23:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   23:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Eric Stratton (#88)

Are you dying? Are you hungry? Are you living in destitute?

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-22   23:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#89)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-22   23:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Eric Stratton (#90)

We are living in a great age within human history. And you don't seem to understand it. One of these days, I am creating a new web-site ... complaints on the Internet...

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-23   0:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#91)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-23   0:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Eric Stratton (#92)

Buck is a unit or two short of a full set of units. You'll get nowhere with him.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-23   0:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Eric Stratton (#92)

You live longer today, enjoy the most fantastick life and see the finest world than all the kings and queens this world has known before you.

"Sarah "Kiss my Torah" Palin" -- Jethro Tull, circa 2010-04-14

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-23   0:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: wudidiz (#93)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-23   10:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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