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Title: U.S. military told to get ready in Korea standoff
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37309788/ns/world_news-asiapacific/
Published: May 24, 2010
Author: MSM
Post Date: 2010-05-24 10:16:59 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 423
Comments: 37

U.S. military told to get ready in Korea standoff

Obama orders commanders to prepare 'to deter future aggression'

Image: South Korean soldiers check fences set up along the demilitarized zone
Lee Sang-hak / AP
South Korean soldiers check fences set up along the demilitarized zone between South and North Korea, in Yanggu, South Korea, on Monday


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WASHINGTON - The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama "fully supports" the South Korean president and his response to the torpedo attack by North Korea that sank a South Korean naval ship.

In a statement, the White House said Seoul can continue to count on the full backing of the United States and said U.S. military commanders had been told to work with their South Korean counterparts "to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression."

The administration said it endorsed President Lee Myung-bak's demand that "North Korea immediately apologize and punish those responsible for the attack, and, most importantly, stop its belligerent and threatening behavior."

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Late last week, a team of international investigators accused North Korea of torpedoing the Cheonan corvette in March, killing 46 sailors in one of the deadliest clashes between the two since the 1950-53 Korean War.

The United States still has about 28,000 troops in South Korea to provide military support. The two Koreas, still technically at war, have more than 1 million troops near their border.

"U.S. support for South Korea's defense is unequivocal, and the President has directed his military commanders to coordinate closely with their Republic of Korea counterparts to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression," the statement said.

"We will build on an already strong foundation of excellent cooperation between our militaries and explore further enhancements to our joint posture on the Peninsula as part of our ongoing dialogue," it said.

"The U.S. will continue to work with the Republic of Korea and other allies and partners to reduce the threat that North Korea poses to regional stability," the statement added.

Lee said Monday that South Korea would no longer tolerate the North's "brutality" and said the repressive communist regime would pay for the surprise March 26 torpedo attack.

He also vowed to cut off all trade with the North and take Pyongyang to the U.N. Security Council for punishment over the sinking of the warship Cheonan.

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Speaking earlier in Beijing, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said the North must be held accountable and she is pushing to get the support of China, North Korea's top ally, for diplomatic action.

Clinton warned of a "highly precarious" security situation in the region, and said North Korea's neighbors, including Pyongyang ally China, understood the seriousness of the matter.

Clinton would not say whether such action would include new international sanctions against the North, and said she was engaged in intense consultations with China and other nations about the next step.

"We are working hard to avoid an escalation of belligerence and provocation," Clinton said.

So far, China has refrained from criticizing the North, which it supplied with troops during the Korean War

Obama and Lee have agreed to meet at the G20 summit in Canada next month, the statement said. (1 image)

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#1. To: All (#0)

Just a thought, but if anyone owns a Hyundai (made in S. Korea) that needs needs work, I suggest you get it done ASAP.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-24   10:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

So far, China has refrained from criticizing the North, which it supplied with troops during the Korean War

Did they ever. Hordes of them.

Hundreds of thousands, padded cotton uniform, rifle, ammo and a bag of rice, on they came like locusts, they could not be killed fast enough.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   10:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Hyundai also makes Kias.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-24   10:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Just a thought

Here is one of those times we could have war by miscalculation, no one really wants it, no one is even prepared.

With a mad man, who cares less, at the helm in North Korea, anything could happen.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   10:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   10:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   10:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#2) (Edited)

Hundreds of thousands, padded cotton uniform, rifle, ammo and a bag of rice, on they came like locusts, they could not be killed fast enough.

Thank god there were men to repel then. Looking at these ads, this current bunch will either cut and run or willingly join their ranks. Politically, the diversity crowd has more in common with communists than Americans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-24   10:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#3)

According to a friend's dad, our guys were sent there with totally inadequate clothing and gear.

He told me that he'd never been so cold in his life.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-24   10:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

Separate company, same ownership.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-24   10:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

KIA

Yes, also made in Korea. Should the SHTF these plants will be converted to service the war industry so forget about parts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-24   10:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#4) (Edited)

With a mad man, who cares less, at the helm in North Korea, anything could happen.

we'll see who's the madman, and who gets the last laugh, once oil production starts falling, wont we?

nevermind: we've got all this racial hatred here in the states, and we can exploit that to trim the population down to sustainable size... wont be a particularly happy time for us americans, but it oughta entertain the north koreans, haitians and cubans.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-24   10:33:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Thank god there were men to repel then.

Truman sent Mac a message, "stop the North".

Mac wired back, "with what".

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   10:34:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   10:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   10:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#4)

With a mad man, who cares less, at the helm in North Korea, anything could happen.

Especially one who is so ronery.

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-05-24   10:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#14)

Odds of a nuke going off within the next 12 months?

Wish you had not asked that question.

I always flavor history with odds, and avoid such tough questions as you pose.

I would like to say, not a chance, but that would be cowardly.

Nine to one against.

I say that from having had nuclear bomb experience during the first Korean police action. MacArthur wanted to stop the war at the beginning with nuclear weapons.

Truman and his communist friends would not allow. So, nearly 50,000 American kids died there. A lot of my friends.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   10:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#13)

We're more or less in the same industrial state as Germany in the 1920's. Most of the industrial base is gone, however, we have the know how (as they did) to rebuild it in short order. German industrial production even during WW2 didn't go into war footing until 1944, but they held out pretty well against essentially the rest of the world in the meantime.

Given as we have nukes, and lots of them, the necessity of a sustained huge military force isn't quite as pressing as it could be, because nobody is going to invade us without becoming a glass parking lot. That leaves the fight in Asia, at least for a while, and I suspect that industrial capacity could be cranked up in that time. The government has already commandeered our auto companies, and those companies produce things like engines for M1 tanks and such, plus we have Boeing and company as well as a still significant large industrial tool/vehicle capacity. We're not quite as helpless as it would seem, however there will be major lag in any real war that could devastate life and limb of the ground forces.

What will be interesting is that they will have to withdraw most troops from Iraq and Afghanistan for the scuffle, initially. That leaves those regions suddenly bereft of invaders, with populations that now know that we're not there to help them in any way. Strange world is shaping up I think.

This isn't a rah-rah statement, just an observation about how it appears to me.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-05-24   10:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#12)

Had Mac gotten his way, they'd be no threat today.

When the Red, Red Robin Comes Bob, Bob Bobbin' Along

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-24   10:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#18) (Edited)

they'd be no threat today

in the best of all cornucopian worlds, the north koreans would be our reserve supply of slave labor, to help replace the south koreans, taiwanese, indonesians, chinese, etc etc, once they've priced themselves out of the slave labor pool.

too bad it doesnt look like the shit sandwich is gonna hold together long enough for the north koreans to assume their role.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-24   11:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#16)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   11:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

Had Mac gotten his way, they'd be no threat today.

Thats right.

Most people do not know this...When Eisenhower became president, HE CONFERRED WITH MACARTHUR ON WHAT HE SHOULD DO IF THE COMMUNISTS DRAGGED THEIR FEET IN ENDING THE WAR.

Mac told him bluntly, use nukes and end it once and for all. Eisenhower agreed, the gooks were told, and they ended the war.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   11:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SonOfLiberty (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   11:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#20)

However, IMO it goes to 50% within the next 36.

All the major powers are PREPARING for war, you are correct, as time progresses, the odds change rapidly.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   11:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23) (Edited)

the major powers are PREPARING for war

as they must, to defend themselves from the israeli americans' "benevolent global hegemony".

after witnessing our performance in iraq and aghanistan, it's unlikely anyone's harboring any illusions about the quality of our benevolence.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-24   11:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#23)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   11:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eric Stratton (#25)

quite possibly our own dictator, might unleash one or more for political purposes

True...

However, he never gets to pull the trigger, that is done by the peons.

I have always wondered, if the order came down to send one into say Canada, would the order be carried out.

To my mind, knowing something of the military, I have to wonder if just by chance there is not a fail safe mechanism in place. In other words, there has to be such a method to avoid the possibility of a madman, or miscalculation.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   11:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#23) (Edited)

what if most everyone except diehard zionists has written israel off?

what if some big corporation with access to nukes decided to take the bull by the horns and nuke israel, and blame oily arabs or persians for the attack? ...the attack would put america on a total war footing, resulting (hopefully) in outright "israeli american" control of the remaining oil in the middle east.

one additional benefit: we'd be rid of israel, which is so freaking wildcard and unpredictable that, for planning purposes, we'd all be better off if israel were gone... if israelis are prepared to abandon their morals to defend israel, would it be such a stretch to imagine disenchanted zionists nuking israel to further their plan for global domination?

anyhow, it's already set up, all it would take would be the event.

given enron's and exxon's prominence in the runup to 9/11 (not to mention bechtel, which has assumed a really low profile compared to its prominence in the reagan administration, and probably has access to nuke demolitions for construction), it's not improbable at all that a corporation was involved in the 9/11 operation.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-24   11:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#26) (Edited)

we're assuming here, for the sake of argument, than there are people still crazy enough to believe in globalism, one-world government, the NWO, benevolent global hegemony, tikkun olam, full-spectrum dominance, and nuke primacy.

seems much more likely than no one but real nutballs believes in anything anymore but looting...

...which, i spose, doesnt eliminate the use of nukes if it enhances your opportunities to loot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-05-24   11:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#2)

Did they ever. Hordes of them.

And those human waves died and died and died.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-05-24   14:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Turtle (#29)

And those human waves died and died and died.

Thousands of them froze to death in the mountains.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   14:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

Thousands of them froze to death in the mountains

I know. Their military just deserted them. Bye, we're going home, you can stay here and freeze to death.

“No amount of reason, evidence, logic or rational argument will ever convince the true believer otherwise.”

Turtle  posted on  2010-05-24   14:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#26)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   15:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Eric Stratton (#32)

Most of the top of the military seems to be some sort of psycho or sociopath such that it really makes no difference.

I refuse to entertain that thought.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   15:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-05-24   15:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#4)

This preminent hostile standoff will become the stepping stone for the Gog Magog War.

purplerose  posted on  2010-05-24   15:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#33)

Most of the top of the military seems to be some sort of psycho or sociopath

That does not even warrant comment.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   15:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: purplerose (#35)

This preminent hostile standoff will become the stepping stone for the Gog Magog War.

Whether one believes the Bible or not, it sure seems that way.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-05-24   15:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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