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Title: Cops not allowed to request ID? An absurd notion that's never been true
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x- ... -notion-thats-never-been-true#
Published: May 29, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-05-29 17:10:20 by Artisan
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LA County Libertarian Examiner With seemingly never-ending angst and bickering over Arizona's recent immigration law SB 1070, proponents and supporters of the law have used several arguements in defense of it. ''It's 100% Constitutional, it simply mirrors existing federal law'', they insist. They will go on to assure that no 'racial profiling' is involved, that people won't be stopped based on race, and that people can only be asked for ID after they are stopped for legitimate and legal just cause, such as an alleged traffic violation. This brings me to my question which addresses the very crux of the issue. Do supporters of this law believe that police were, until passage of SB 1070, legally and legitimately prohibited from demanding ID from those whom they lawfully detain? If so, that is quite an outrageous and absurd contention. The fact is that police have always been lawfully allowed to request identification after legitimately detaining a suspect. 'But they had to do SOMETHING', they'll reply, 'the feds refuse to halt the hoards of illegals!' While true, that the feds have purposely allowed massive illegal immigration for decades, please stick with the point at hand and simply address the question I am asking. Do you actually believe that cops across the United States have no authority to ask for ID unless each state legislature passes a 'special law' allowing them to do so? If you belive this, why do you believe it? Who taught you such nonsense? [article continues here Related links: Ron Paul "has some reservations" about Arizona SB 1070 Judge Andrew Napolitano speaks against SB 1070 Tom Tancredo to be keynote speaker at Arizona SB 1070 rally Arizona's infamous Russell Pearce shills for traffic cameras, sought to bar photoblocker spray Does race pimp 'Machete' have the cojones to 'send a message' to U.S. Congress? Rep. McClintock gives lip service to sovereignty after endorsing open border globalists for years Obama propagates myth that police 'duty' is to 'keep Americans safe' Criminalizing the natural right to work, gesture, or nod in Arizona Illegal immigration opponent Terry Anderson bars mention of 'new world order garbage' on radio show
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#4. To: Artisan (#0)
Asking for ID is one thing. Asking for documentation of citizenship is something different. THe simple fact is that not everyone has documentation of citizenship. There are, to be sure, birth certificates, but so many people on this website refuse to believe that Obama's birth certificate is authentic. Some people - including the many elderly who retired to Arizona - either never got their birth certificates from the Health Dept or else misplaced them over the decades. Some might have baptismal certificates from when they were newborns -- but can Arizona cops read a Greek Orthodox Church baptismal certificate written in Greek or a Jewish circumcision certificate written in Hebrew? Hell, we don't trust the cops to tell the proper time when they ticket us for overtime parking - do we really trust them to make the proper assessment of citizenship papers?!
there is a driver in phoenix stopped last month forced to show his birth certificate. he was born here yet ice arrested him, ice said this is standard op. procedure. and still prior to ab 1070 taking effect. yet more proof the law was not legally needed. he was detained by ice until his wife brought his birth certificate. the reason cops never asked illegals for id is because it was policy handed down from top. NOT because it was disallowed.
The sob's need to get busy stopping Obama and demanding to see his (real) birth certificate. He hasn't shown it to anyone yet, at least not to any actual Americans.
LOL. good one.
Thank you.
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#9. To: Shoonra, jethro tull, christine, original_intent, wudidiz, james deffenbach, rotara, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#4)
#34. To: Artisan (#9)
there is a driver in phoenix stopped last month forced to show his birth certificate. he was born here yet ice arrested him, ice said this is standard op. procedure.
#37. To: James Deffenbach (#34)
The sob's need to get busy stopping Obama and demanding to see his (real) birth certificate.
#47. To: christine (#37)
LOL. good one.
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