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Title: Flotilla passengers attack IDF when they drop in on them........
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo&feature=player_embedded
Published: May 31, 2010
Author: Israeli Propaganda Machine
Post Date: 2010-05-31 22:14:15 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1801
Comments: 86

Making the case for murdering the passengers as the IDF was just dropping in to say "hi" to them all.......

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#4. To: all (#0)

The MSM conveniently leaves out the fact that the IDF botched the operation, not unlike the ATF did WACO. Rather that drop down as a unit, they came down one by one, in a staggered way. It's logical to assume the first few who came aboard began shooting, thus leaving the passengers with one option to save their lives; fight them as they descended, or die. Who in their right mind wouldn't attack blood thirsty terrorists repelling from a helicopter?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-31   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Rather that drop down as a unit, they came down one by one, in a staggered way.

They are VERY VERY lucky that the passengers were just irate civilians, and not armed fighters.

Of course they would have just done a USS Liberty treatment of the ship if it HAD contained armed fighters, they just wanted to drop in one by one for show, and for an excuse to open up with their Uzi's.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-05-31   22:28:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#8)

Of course they would have just done a USS Liberty treatment of the ship if it HAD contained armed fighters, they just wanted to drop in one by one for show, and for an excuse to open up with their Uzi's.

WHOOPS!

I have to take exception with you on this most recent issue and I am no fan of Israel. There was no pre-determined manifest offered.

Inward Foreign Manifest

Inward Foreign Manifest is a general term to describe the manifest that contains cargo or passengers from a foreign port that is being carried over beyond the first port of call in just about all nations around the globe. This is specifically called a Traveling Manifest.

It wasn't accepted and the flotilla knew that.

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   22:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13) (Edited)

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

Source that please........

Even the Israelis are stating that the passengers had only two pistols--both taken from IDF commandos.

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   22:46:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas (#14)

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#17)

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

Where are the AK-47's you mentioned? They sure aren't in that video. And, frankly, there is no evidence of grenades and firebombs as the IDF claims--one could not identify the objects in the videos as such.

Say, why do you think the IDF was filming their terrorist drop in on the civilian boats?

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   23:09:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#19)

Say, why do you think the IDF was filming their terrorist drop in on the civilian boats?

Because they knew that the flotilla was not a "peace mission." Isn't some modern technology fantastick?

Where are the AK-47's you mentioned?

You didn't see the soldier drop off at the beginning of the footage? What do you think caused him to drop so suddenly ... a marshmallow was thrown at him?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:18:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#21)

You didn't see the soldier drop off at the beginning of the footage? What do you think caused him to drop so suddenly ... a marshmallow was thrown at him?

I'll tell you what I didn't see--ANY AK-47's. Why are you promoting propoganda Buckeroo?

Like I said, two pistols were taken FROM IDF COMMANDOS. That is the only guns reported in possession of passengers on the boats.

BTW, the flotilla was IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS where the IDF had no business dropping in on them. What's next? Are you going to defend the slaughter of the USS Liberty crew in international waters too? Claim they fired assualt rifles at them or something to deserve that act of war?

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   23:27:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#24)

Like I said, two pistols were taken FROM IDF COMMANDOS.

The events are ongoing, and information will be updated as soon as possible. Israeli Naval commander, Vice Admiral Eliezer Marom is overseeing the events.

In the coming hours, the ships will be directed to the Ashdod port, while IDF naval forces will perform security checks in order to identify the people on board the ships and their equipment. The IDF Spokesman conveys that this event is currently unfolding and further details will be provided as soon as possible.

The IDF naval operation was carried out under orders from the political leadership to halt the flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip and breaching the naval blockade.

The interception of the flotilla followed numerous warnings given to the organizers of the flotilla before leaving their ports as well as while sailing towards the Gaza Strip. In these warnings, it was made clear to the organizers that they could dock in the Ashdod sea port and unload the equipment they are carrying in order to deliver it to the Gaza Strip in an orderly manner, following the appropriate security checks. Upon expressing their unwillingness to cooperate and arrive at the port, it was decided to board the ships and lead them to Ashdod.

IDF naval personnel encountered severe violence, including use of weaponry prepared in advance in order to attack and to harm them. The forces operated in adherence with operational commands and took all necessary actions in order to avoid violence, but to no avail.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:33:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

IDF naval personnel encountered severe violence, including use of weaponry prepared in advance in order to attack and to harm them.

Yeh that's right - like the guy with the knife.

These people are psycos.

The US needs to have NOTHING to do with them.

I am starting to thing clearing out New York is a good start for the tewnty first century.

tom007  posted on  2010-05-31   23:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: tom007 (#27)

The US needs to have NOTHING to do with them.

I agree with you. Still, the evidence is quite clear to me that Israel informed these folks all along about the potential ramifications.

The problem with all this mess is that an embargo has been in operation for years and the only way ships may dock in Gaza is through a properly authenticated manifest by Israel. All countries have similar methods of and about manifests. Attempting to circumvent the rules can be considered an act of war or terrorism and certainly an invasion.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:42:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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