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Title: Why Nashville Had No Looters during the recent flooding
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Published: Jun 1, 2010
Author: prisonofficer
Post Date: 2010-06-01 02:01:17 by Itistoolate
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Views: 541
Comments: 46

Why Nashville Had No Looters during the recent flooding

By the way I DO NOT condone drinking and the handling of weapons! For those of you who know me out there know that to be the truth.

Ride hard you can rest when you die
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a
pretty and well preserved body but rather to skid in broadside thoroughly
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

I can't tell for sure but it looks like the guy to the left of the sign is holding one nasty looking .44 Magnum.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   2:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

i'm surprised there is no scope on it

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-01   2:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate (#2)

It almost looks like a damned Buntline Special in .44.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   2:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

the sign alone is enough to scare the sheite out of most people with an iq of 1 or more

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-01   2:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itistoolate (#4)

If it doesn't then they have a death wish.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   2:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

It almost looks like a damned Buntline Special in .44.

It's a Ruger Super Redhawk

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-01   2:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#0)

I wish the Preds had come out strong like this against the weasely, cheater Black Hawks. Darn.

scrapper2  posted on  2010-06-01   2:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent, Itistoolate (#6)

Ruger Super Redhawk

Mit Skope


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-01   2:47:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#6)

Interesting piece of hardware. That Alaskan Model would be nice for some of my remote fishing holes as there are both bear and cougar to worry about.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   3:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Itistoolate (#0)

No doubt this lovely photo has been scanned into BATFE database and the photo ID program is noting location and using face-recognition to identify weapons and persons. For permanent reference.

I think people should be a little more paranoid about identifying themselves and their weapons.

Photos like this could bite your butt years down the road.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-01   7:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Brothers in Arms !

Great Pic !!!

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting. YOU only count when it's census or TAX time"

noone222  posted on  2010-06-01   7:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#10)

I think the opposite. We need to stop being so damned scared of being "identified" and all of us, every last one of us, show our faces when we say "come get some".

We outnumber the thugs 80 to 1, we have the real firepower, and the real power. As long as they continue to scare us into hiding, we'll never know it though. 80+ million gun owners suddenly said "screw you, here I am, a gun owner, whatchagonnadoaboutit" and the idea of "identifying for later use" becomes moot. We need to make *them* scared to show their faces, not the other way around.

I say, carry those guns on your hips proudly and urge others to do so. A right that you're afraid to exercise is a right you no longer possess.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-01   8:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#6) (Edited)

Loves me that elegant piece of gizmo machinery, yo.

Have a Super Blackhawk myself, pretty much a single action version of the Super Redhawk. Or if you'd prefer, a .44 magnum version of the classic Peacekeeper, with a 10.5" barrel.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-01   8:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itistoolate (#0)

The best part of that sign and the participants is that it can be multiplied many millions of times over in parts of the USA.

OBAMA'S KATRINA

SPEW, BABY, SPEW

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-01   8:26:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SonOfLiberty (#12)

#12 major bump

OBAMA'S KATRINA

SPEW, BABY, SPEW

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-01   8:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#10)

I think people should be a little more paranoid about identifying themselves and their weapons.

Photos like this could bite your butt years down the road.

If you think like this, you're going down the German road.

Because this is the mentality that allowed the Germans to build a prison in which these people became their own jailers.

I know a family over there listening to the radio in their own home whose dad said the words "paid applause" at the end of one of Hitler's broadcasts. He was met with "Hush, father, someone might hear you!"

That was the Russian road also, and that's where this kind of thinking inevitably leads.

Stand up and show your colors, or someone else will strike them for you. It's the American way.

Expropriate British Petroleum.

randge  posted on  2010-06-01   9:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SonOfLiberty (#12)

We outnumber the thugs 80 to 1, we have the real firepower, and the real power. As long as they continue to scare us into hiding, we'll never know it though. 80+ million gun owners suddenly said "screw you, here I am, a gun owner, whatchagonnadoaboutit" and the idea of "identifying for later use" becomes moot. We need to make *them* scared to show their faces, not the other way around.

I think people should be aware.

Even more so if they have sniper rifles, automatic weapons (or those that are easily converted to full-auto), etc.

This kind of stuff can bite your ass in a family court dispute in a divorce or child custody fight. It can affect your employability.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to publish everything about themselves on this interweb thing. Quite often, it is contrary to their own interests.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-01   9:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#17)

These are times when things are coming to a head. It is not now time to hunker down and pretend to be unaffiliated. We outnumber them. By a huge margin. While I would have been a bit more inclined to agree with you in, say, 1992, that was then, this is now. Then, we were all in a mindset of "gosh, am I the only one left?". Today we know we're not, and it's about time we stopped acting like we were.

The way things are going right now, concerns like 'employability' are probably short lived at best. Start a business if employment is a concern. Personally I've been "discriminated against" employment wise because I'm an avid shooter and am not shy about it. Big deal, it doesn't mean that I give up a right in order to gain security (wow, that sounds like such a familiar string of words...).

Hiding a basic and justified exercise of a right is not the way to go. We've got to stop living in fear of the mouse under our heels.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-01   9:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)

While I would have been a bit more inclined to agree with you in, say, 1992, that was then, this is now. Then, we were all in a mindset of "gosh, am I the only one left?".

Same here. I could have wrote those exact same 2 sentences. Or your whole post for that matter.

We've got to stop living in fear of the mouse under our heels.

Yep. They are counting on that fear to keep us in line.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-01   9:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)

These are times when things are coming to a head. It is not now time to hunker down and pretend to be unaffiliated. We outnumber them. By a huge margin. While I would have been a bit more inclined to agree with you in, say, 1992, that was then, this is now. Then, we were all in a mindset of "gosh, am I the only one left?". Today we know we're not, and it's about time we stopped acting like we were.

Whatever. I recall debating this with you at TOS1 and you seemed a lot more shy back then. I find it hard to reconcile your remarks then to now. In fact, that exchange convinced me that very very few are ever going to be willing to do anything meaningful to resist Leviathan.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-01   20:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz, SonOfLiberty, christine, Jethro_Tull, Original_Intent (#8)

Ruger Super Redhawk

Mit Skope

My young hunting buddy couldn't wait to go handgun hunting in Maryland as soon as he acquired his Super Redhawk.

He is an experienced hunter with shotgun and bow, but, he clearly made a mistake going alone on his maiden voyage with handgun.

I say this because he came home and told me that no sooner than he set up his tent he saw a large buck trotting across the field perhaps 100 yds away, so, he snatched the revolver from the shoulder rig and rapid fired double action six-count em-six shots of full house magnum loads with no ear plugs at a deer that was angling away, and well out of range for iron sights on a handgun.

I told him the truth when he asked if his hearing would ever be the same.

I also explained that when hunting deer with a handgun, one hopes to take careful aim with a cocked revolver at a range of about 35 yds or less, and carefully touch off a well placed shot to effect a humane kill. One does not ever fire in the general direction of a critter at ranges where shot placement is but a dream, because it's too easy to maim animals that escape and die under a bush somewhere.

Yes, I know it's possible for experienced handgunners to take deer out to 125 yds with a scoped handgun, shooting an adequate caliber from a solid rest at a deer that presents a good target. (If you can put your shot in a saucer then take it-his Redhawk was new and he was a poor handgunner who couldn't hit a school bus while standing and firing double action with no rest at that range)

I don't condone the spray and pray method with any hunting firearm and I'd certainly never fire big bore magnums without ear protection.

I didn't have to punish him, though. He had already done that.

No one ever told him that handgun hunting is a specialized discipline like bow hunting, and one uses greater skill to succeed with fewer target opportunities. He assumed that it's quite normal to fire six .44 mags at a running deer on the other end of a football field (good grief-I feel silly just writing that) and he didn't understand that experienced handgunners take deer with single shot handguns (like a Thompson Contender for instance) by waiting for the right shot and using the same scent control and camo skills as bow hunters.

Unlike rifles and slug guns few handguns have the requisite 1,000 ft lbs of muzzle energy at extended ranges, and therefore the shot must be placed with surgical precision to minimize suffering and quickly bag the critter.

This chap hunts with 12ga slugs the same way but they usually bring his running deer down because of the slugs' devastating shock power, and his shots are usually at much closer ranges. (We hunt pretty thick cover in DE)

When he bagged his first deer with a rifle (a .308-also in MD) he told me later that he heard my voice in his head, telling him to "take a breath and let it out, take another and stop exhaling half way, and squeeze the trigger so slowly that you don't know when the sear engagement is going to break." He did and the doe took two steps and started to wobble, then fell over. He stepped off two hundred yards and she had a tiny entrance hole and a blowout on the opposite side where her heart was.

I realized too late that because I don't hunt with a handgun he didn't ask my (or anyone else's) advice, and now as he gets older he needs to work on his lip reading skills.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-01   21:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SonOfLiberty (#13)

Have a Super Blackhawk myself, pretty much a single action version of the Super Redhawk. Or if you'd prefer, a .44 magnum version of the classic Peacekeeper, with a 10.5" barrel.

I had a .357 Blackhawk back in the '70's and it was one of the most accurate handguns I've ever owned.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-01   21:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#9)

Interesting piece of hardware. That Alaskan Model would be nice for some of my remote fishing holes as there are both bear and cougar to worry about.

I would recommend a short barreled 12 ga pump instead because the Alaskan Model Redhawk's abbreviated barrel makes for a goddam brutal muzzle blast.

Unless you intend to fish while wearing hearing protection or compromise the power of the loads you stuff in the revolver, the heaviest loads in the shortest barrels looks good in the movies but the real life consequences are too often regretted forever.

A friend of mine owned a South Carolina gun store when Dirty Harry was first released and he sold a bunch of Model 29's to young men (of course).

Many of them returned to trade them back because they missed an important clue in the film-Harry shot "a light special load" in his S&W, and the boys damaged their hearing finding that a .44 mag with full house loads is not a quick draw self defense/plinking gun unless you'd also be willing to let someone hit you in the ears with two baseball bats whenever emergencies arise....

The distance from your ears to the muzzle of a pump shotgun compared to the proximity of the unbelievably brutal blast from the .44's muzzle and cylinder gap is the diff between coming away relatively the same or having unnecessarily depreciated your assets. Even in a life or death situation I'd rather have a gun that does more damage out front and less to me.

Cougar are thin skinned critters but bear can come really big boned, and I wouldn't choose any handgun over my Remington Wingmaster with an 18"bbl and synthetic stock. The gun is light and fast and even fired from the hip is more likely to score an anchoring hit on an aggressive sow with cubs.

My Model 19 .357 S&W snubby with heavy loads would make my ears bleed with the heaviest loads, and I wouldn't dream of firing a .44 Alaskan with the right loads for bear. The short barrel means that I won't get the maximum energy because unburned powder is blasted out of the short barrel before the bullet has reached max velocity.

So, the heaviest loads in the shortest barrel is the worst of both worlds, and when facing toothy, clawy critters only the heaviest loads will do. While it is true that black bears have turned and run from .38 shots (and were then found dead down the trail) a sow with cubs is hardwired to kill every living thing that eyeballs her precious cub(s), so we must assume that she won't quit until one of you is dead.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-01   22:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

An interesting cautionary tale. I'm sold. It also reminded me of my 2nd Cousin in Montana - fed his family with his rifle. He WOULD NOT shoot unless he had a clear head shot. He did not leave animals to suffer and die huddled under some bush or tree. It is a lesson I have never forgotten.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   22:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#23)

I would recommend a short barreled 12 ga pump instead because the Alaskan Model Redhawk's abbreviated barrel makes for a goddam brutal muzzle blast.

Sounds like my old friend the Remington 870.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-01   23:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Itistoolate (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-01   23:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-01   23:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#25)

Sounds like my old friend the Remington 870.

My Wingmaster is an 870 Police.

I bought it in 1980 before Remington started making the more affordable 870 with the matte black or Parkerized finish, so needless to say it has the more expensive high gloss blue finish. The only diff between the Police and the sporter models was the lumber, the Police having the utilitarian foreend and shoulder stock. (and an 18" or 20" bbl)

I bought two wood sporting stocks and fore ends for it so it would be dressier when deer hunting, but the third one was the black synthetic stock made by Remington, which some guy left in the store after re-stocking his new 870 with a synthetic pistol grip and horizontal fore end.

I also have a Pachmayr pistol grip and foreend for mine, and in the past 30 years it's been on the gun less than 6 months. (the same with the extended magazine) With the synthetic shoulder stock and foreend made by Remington the gun is just so light and fast handling that I keep it set up that way year 'round.

With the 18" bbl and Brenneke slugs it would definitely fill the bill as bear medicine. Needless to say it kicks like a mule (I don't shoot Brennekes for funzies, and I hunt with Remington's Managed Recoil slugs) but if I survive the encounter my shoulder will recover from the hydraulic hammering, and I can always have the dental fillings replaced)

Once they offered the 870 with the new finishes they were blown out for as little as $199 at K Mart, and Remington was able to compete with Mossberg. BUT, a word of warning, the new "affordable finishes" will rust in a matter of hours if you leave moisture on the gun. The high gloss blue adds $100 plus to the price but it's much more resistant to rust.

My dear ol' Dad loved Mossbergs and considering that Mossbergs have met the Mil-Spec 3443 requirements I wouldn't hesistate to buy one.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-03   10:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#24)

It also reminded me of my 2nd Cousin in Montana - fed his family with his rifle. He WOULD NOT shoot unless he had a clear head shot. He did not leave animals to suffer and die huddled under some bush or tree. It is a lesson I have never forgotten.

My gun dealer in CA once told me to "fear the man who has but one gun"-like those pro hunting guides who carry the same rifle for years and know exactly where it will put a bullet a varying ranges, a man who relies on his rifle to feed and defend himself and his family is not likely to miss....or waste precious ammo on a warning shot.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-03   10:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#17)

I think people should be aware.

Even more so if they have sniper rifles, automatic weapons (or those that are easily converted to full-auto), etc.

This kind of stuff can bite your ass in a family court dispute in a divorce or child custody fight. It can affect your employability.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to publish everything about themselves on this interweb thing. Quite often, it is contrary to their own interests.

What I have or don't have is not a matter of anyone's business but mine. I do not belong to any of the identity theft clubs like Fazed Book, or Twit. People need to learn to read the fine print - they claim ownership to any personal information you upload and the right to do with it as they will.

I had a neighbor where I lived last who kept a bloody arsenal - which I did not know for years until he knew me well enough to know I could be trusted, then he pulled away the bookcase which was the door to the hidden room. I'm sure there are many with more but he had about 10 rifles racked up along with a collection of assorted pistols of varying vintage and power.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   15:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: HOUNDDAWG (#29)

It also reminded me of my 2nd Cousin in Montana - fed his family with his rifle. He WOULD NOT shoot unless he had a clear head shot. He did not leave animals to suffer and die huddled under some bush or tree. It is a lesson I have never forgotten.

My gun dealer in CA once told me to "fear the man who has but one gun"-like those pro hunting guides who carry the same rifle for years and know exactly where it will put a bullet a varying ranges, a man who relies on his rifle to feed and defend himself and his family is not likely to miss....or waste precious ammo on a warning shot.

Reminds me of my old man. He did not miss - ever. If he shot it was on target - always. He had one and only one preference - Springfield Model 1903A1. Even his brothers, all good shots themselves, were in awe of him.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   16:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#28)

I haven't owned one yet but I spent a lot of time with it in the service since it was one of the weapons I had to qualify on. I find it to be comfortable and reliable. At the range that I would have to use it, and good Lord willing I wouldn't, the 18" barrel would be fine, and easier to pack around the heavy underbrush. There is one small stream I love, and a certain stretch that runs though a meadow that was once a mining reservoir, where you can still catch a 5 pound Rainbow in a small meandering stream. Unfortunately thanks to the Bambiists the regulations for Cougar hunting were made excessive and so the population is exploding. Eventually some hikers are going to become "cat food". I don't intend to be one of them. Of course since I grew up under the tutelage of a woods wise father I know enough to where it is unlikely to begin with, but I don't like the exposed feeling of being up there unarmed.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   16:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

Thank you for the ping to the story. Good lesson to be learned there : )


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-03   16:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Hehe.. I didn't need to click on the thread - I already knew the answer. lol

By the way I DO NOT condone drinking and the handling of weapons!

I agree, but tell that to Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. lol

Now we have a REAL environmental catastrophe involving oil, so presumably the Mainstream Media are going hysterical right now.... no, on second thought, they're keeping quiet about this. Interesting.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-06-03   16:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#30)

I had a neighbor where I lived last who kept a bloody arsenal - which I did not know for years until he knew me well enough to know I could be trusted, then he pulled away the bookcase which was the door to the hidden room. I'm sure there are many with more but he had about 10 rifles racked up along with a collection of assorted pistols of varying vintage and power.

Then you know a sensible person. Hopefully, he has been discreet throughout. It's fairly difficult to do these days as so many organizations collect and trade information now.

People need to realize that it's the blowhards and showoffs that will get rounded up first or flimsy excuses will used to seize their weapons or intimidate them.

Look at that picture again. Since 50% of marriages end in divorce, how hard would it be to get two ex-wives of the men pictured to make charges against them as being somehow "threatening" and get their right to carry revoked? And after those two got their weapons seized and they got run through the courts, how willing would the rest be to do anything?

Totalitarian regimes have devoted much effort to analyzing social habits and various records to determine the political reliability of ordinary citizens.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-03   20:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Why Nashville Had No Looters during the recent flooding

The same reason Texas didn't have any black riots in the 1960's: the Whites would have gone on the warpath against the blacks and the state government would have been powerless to stop them.

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-06-03   20:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TooConservative (#35)

Totalitarian regimes have devoted much effort to analyzing social habits and various records to determine the political reliability of ordinary citizens.

And definitely ours has been busy at it - and not just the recent stuff like "no-fly lists" with 3 year old children on them but as far back as the late 40's early 50's when CIA Psychiatrists first began their experimentation on mind control etc., ... Our ruling elites are very much interested in controlling the populace - "all the better to liquidate you my dear".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   20:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#32)

I watch with sadness as the number of granola-munching joggers attacked by CA cougars grows each year. But, they choose to ignore the obvious fact that a ban on cougar hunting has resulted in a dangerous surplus.

And many cats are sharing the same desert terrain with upscale suburbanites who are always surprised when Fifi the poodle is snatched from the backyard by a coyote or puma.

These same enlightened beautiful people are horrified when they find that cougars are particularly attracted to joggers (running triggers the predatory dinner bell) especially when the prey is so poorly equipped to defend against attack. In areas of scarce food cougars will gag down foul smelling humans irrespective of their politics....(I mention this because the same people who wish that hunters will be attacked and killed are oh so surprised when they find that cougar will eat them first BECAUSE they're not hunters or gun enthusiasts-cougars don't care if they marched with Dr. King or voted to ban puma hunting)

The CA Fish and Game people were careful in the issuance of cougar tickets, and if allowed to manage the critters they would not allow the cougar's numbers to exceed the state's carrying capacity (in other words the cats wouldn't be forced to eat humans because of intense competition for food) or risk being wiped out.

As much as I support California's I&R as a means of controlling taxes, the voters clearly made the wrong decision when they banned cougar hunting.

I don't know where you live but PLEASE, don't rely on others to make your preferred "spiritual renewal areas" safe.

Even my state of DE has an itinerant snarling cougar passing through each year. It has been videoed in several back yards and cougar-killed deer have been found at Dupont's Stine-Haskell Site. Fortunately, yummy, mouth watering game is plentiful and Delawareans long ago abandoned the practice of sleeping outdoors with pork chops around their necks.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-03   21:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: HOUNDDAWG (#38)

I don't know where you live but PLEASE, don't rely on others to make your preferred "spiritual renewal areas" safe.

Texas: These animals may be hunted at any time by any lawful means or methods on private property. Public hunting lands may have restrictions. A hunting license is required. Mountain lions are not protected and can be harvested at any time.

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-06-03   21:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: X-15 (#39)

Texas: These animals may be hunted at any time by any lawful means or methods on private property. Public hunting lands may have restrictions. A hunting license is required. Mountain lions are not protected and can be harvested at any time.

Outstanding.

Sneaking up on a cougar is like sneaking up on a leprechaun-there isn't much of a database for either. And, those who successfully guide hunters use expensive dogs like Plotts (at around $6,000 per) to run the cats to tree. It could be argued that cougar don't need any protection from the state. Once they sense the pressure they become invisible, and those that attack livestock and/or worry farmers should be killed.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-03   21:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#38)

I don't know where you live but PLEASE, don't rely on others to make your preferred "spiritual renewal areas" safe.

I'm in Oregon and about 15 years ago now an initiative was proposed and passed outlawing the use of dogs in hunting Cougars. I voted against it but the money behind the initiative was big and they were able to run all sorts of slanted advertising about the inhumanity of it all. "The poor kitties." Last year one was taken down out of tree near a suburban school. Oregon has a lot of open space unlike the density of Kahlifornia so the population explosion has not forced too many into contact with the urban yuppie fruitcakes. (Which reminds me of a favorite bumper sticker: "Die Yuppie Scum, Die".) Oregon is largely rural but the 3 most populous counties control the state and as is the case with most urban areas they are out of touch with the realities of the wilderness. Which reminds me of the animal rights photographer who refused to carry a weapon in Grizzly country - and became a grisly story.

The key words on wild predators is Predator and Wild in that order.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   21:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

I understand the arguments against running deer with dogs, (a recent controversy in Florida) but it's the only way to hunt cougar.

You can't sit over "cougar feeding areas" ("Boy, look at em munch that alfalfa!") in tree stands, and you certainly can't stalk them. And the males have a range of about about 100 miles, so unless a cat is zeroing in on your stock, pets, family or you it's impossible to anticipate the cat's arrival, and even then (unless exhausted and treed by dogs that can run forever) we won't see them until they want to be seen.

Those critters are such intuitive predators that they will attack even armed hunters at inopportune moments, such as when their trousers are around their ankles and their rifles are leaning against rocks or trees. No, I'd hunt the biggest 1/2-tonne griz in Medicine Hat over bait and with no dogs but not cougar without man's best friend on nose duty.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-03   22:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#42)

Agreed. I have spent a lot of time in Cougar Country - even had one go through my camp and raid a fish stringer I had left on the lake with some nice Smallmouths to clean in the morning. Kitty had a fish dinner - all that was left was the stringer, and a couple of pieces of gill plate. It likely walked right through or by my camp and I never saw or heard a thing. The upshot is that I have never seen one in the wild, and I have spent a LOT of time in their territory. Same with rattlers for that matter. Now my mom and little sister is another matter. My Dad was at work, we were camped out on remote job for the summer, I was off fishing and my sister was down by the boat ramp on the river. My mom went down to check on her and as she walked up here was this ol' rattler slithering across the boat ramp in my little sister's direction. My friend, his family was camped out on vacation, was amazed at what happened next. My mom picked my sister up as the rattler got to within about a foot and hoisted her over her head and sat her down. Then she took a big rock and made sure the rattler wasn't going to slither toward her little girl again. Which reminds me that I wish I had my dad's old snake gun. It was a beautiful chrome plated Smith & Wesson (if I recall correctly) .22 magnum with mahogany handles. It was the first gun I ever shot. He taught me to plink cans with it when I was 6. That gun sure looked big to a 6 year old.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   22:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: HOUNDDAWG (#42)

I understand the arguments against running deer with dogs, (a recent controversy in Florida) but it's the only way to hunt cougar.

The bastards who pushed the initiative were real sneaky about it. They combined it with a provision to stop baiting Bears - which I actually agreed with. However, Bears are a lot easier to track than Cougars, and while they can be dangerous generally won't bother you if you don't bother them (except Grizzlies - they are just flat damn mean and will kill even when they are not hungry - only a fool goes into remote Grizzly country unarmed). I agree that without dogs going after Cougar is about as good odds as winning the Lottery.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-03   22:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent (#44)

Good posts.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-09   17:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#45)

Thanks.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   18:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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