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Title: BREAKING 12 dead in U.K. shooting rampage
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37467424/ns/world_news-europe/?G
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37467424/ns/world_news-europe/?GT1=43001
Published: Jun 2, 2010
Author: msnbc
Post Date: 2010-06-02 13:05:22 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: 12 dead, uk, shooting rampage
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LONDON - A taxi driver went on a shooting spree across rural northwestern England on Wednesday, killing 12 people and wounding 25 others before shooting himself, police said.

Officers found a body believed to be that of suspect Derrick Bird, 52, in woodland near the Lake District village of Boot, Cumbria police said. A gun was found alongside the body.

The rampage in the county of Cumbria is the deadliest mass shooting since 1996 in a country where gun ownership is tightly restricted.

Police Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Hyde says the rampage "has shocked the people of Cumbria and around the country to the core."

Police said the shootings occurred in the small town of Whitehaven and nearby Seascale and Egremont, about 350 miles northwest of London.

The BBC reported there had been shootings in 11 locations and that victims were apparently chosen randomly. Witnesses described seeing the gunman driving around shooting out the window of his car.

Barrie Walker, a doctor in Seascale who certified one of the deaths, told the BBC that victims had been shot in the face, apparently with a shotgun.

Witness Alan Hannah told the Whitehaven News that he saw a man with a shotgun in a car near a taxi stand in Whitehaven. Photos showed a body, covered in a sheet, lying in a street in the town.

The BBC reported that detectives said Bird drove to the central Lake District in a Citroen Picasso and abandoned it in the Boot area. Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Hyde said a body thought to be Bird's was then found in a wooded area, the BBC reported.

Local lawmaker Jamie Reed said people in the area — popular with hikers and vacationers — were in shock.

"This kind of thing doesn't happen in our part of the world," he told the BBC. "We have got one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates in the country."

Handguns banned in Britain Multiple shootings are rare in Britain, where gun ownership is tightly restricted and handguns are banned.

In 1987, gun enthusiast Michael Ryan killed 16 people in the English town of Hungerford. In 1996, Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and a teacher at a kindergarten in Dunblane, Scotland.

Glenda Pears, who runs L&G Taxis in Whitehaven. said one of the victims was another taxi driver who was a friend of Bird's.

"They used to stand together having a (laugh) on the rank," she said. "He was friends with everybody and used to stand and joke on Duke Street."

Sue Matthews, who works at A2B Taxis in Whitehaven, said Bird was self-employed, quiet and lived alone.

"I would say he was fairly popular. I would see him once a week out and about. He was known as 'Birdy,'" she said.

"I can't believe he would do that — he was a quiet little fellow." Subscribe to *Shooters*

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#1. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

It only stands to reason that the push is now on for shotguns. England has divested itself of its long tradition of private weapon ownership, and have currently educated it's population at least since the late 1940's that "Britain never had a gun culture". Now everybody there believes it, despite the huge stores of newspapers from prior to 1940 that show otherwise, despite tracts of writings prior to the 1940's that show otherwise, despite countless fictional novels written by English writers which showed guns as a normal everyday tool used by Brits, despite the long gone (and reported on and photographed) international competitions between middle class English and Americans in the 19th century. Despite the fox hunts, now banned. Despite, I may add, folks having semi-auto weapons for the shootings that caused their ban (how, one wonders, in a society that supposedly abhorred weaponry?). Despite plans for the Sten being circulated during WW2 for average Brits to use to build their own guns (wait, how could they if they had no clue what guns were, be expected to build, let alone use, a totally unregistered full auto weapon?)

Shotguns are/will be the last ones to go, because there were exemptions for farmers to have them, as a very necessary tool in the line of farming. Watch for the "public outrage" and then action after this incident.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-02   13:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-02   13:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

They're working on knives over there now as well. Breathless reports of some bloke hurt with, God help us, a pocket knife, flashed all over the screens of the teles with the reporters doing the Frowny Sad Face and all the propagandistic shit they do over here for semi-automatic weapons.

They'll have one stabbing a year and make it sound like an epidemic. It makes me very sad, the English (and the Gaels now under them) used to be quite proud of their warrior culture and individual ownership of weapons, up to and through WW2. Hell the very defining trait that seperated a slave from a freeman in their culture, until recently, was the right to bear and keep arms, it's in fact where we get our tradition in America even (they'll never admit that of course). Amazing how hard, constant propaganda is, and it will, totally disarm a once proud people like this, with them cheering the whole way.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-02   13:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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