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Title: How much longer will California remain a part of the United States?
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Published: Jun 6, 2010
Author: Dvorak
Post Date: 2010-06-06 11:50:16 by Mind_Virus
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How much longer will California remain a part of the United States? Published on June 6th, 2010 California’s white population has declined since 2000 at an unprecedented rate, hastening the day when Hispanics will be the state’s largest population group, according to newly released state figures. Analysts said the decline can be attributed to two main causes – a natural population decrease as Baby Boomers enter their later years and die at a faster rate than younger whites have children, and a migration from California since 2001 among whites who sought affordable housing as real estate costs soared. The study also confirmed projections that a steadily growing Hispanic population will surpass whites as the state’s largest racial demographic in 2016. Hispanics are expected to become a majority of all Californians in 2042, Heim said. A University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within the century, taking in the Southwest and several northern states of Mexico. Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.
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#75. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
That will never happen. Agitprop?
So you evade my question by not answering. Do you feel better?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
CO2 is poison. You seem to be confusing it with oxygen. While algae in the oceans does convert CO2 into organic food, some of that algae like the red is poison itself. And when algae levels get too high, either from over fishing or from allowing farming chemicals and by products to slosh into the waterways, the algae mass becomes toxic itself. Lower Ocean Oxygen Levels Predict Catastrophic Change A cascade failure is the progressive collapse of an integral system. Many scientists also call them negative feedback loops, in that unfortunate situations reinforce one another, precipitating eventual and sometimes complete failure. The agricultural practices relate to “factory farming,” in which farmers grow crops using more and more chemical fertilizers, specifically nitrogen and phosphorus, which are the first two ingredients (chemical symbols N and P) listed on any container or bag of fertilizer. The last is potassium, or K. But farmers aren’t the only culprits. Lawn enthusiasts add to the problem with their massive applications of fertilizer designed to maintain a species of plant that doesn’t provide either food or habitat, and is grown merely to add prestige. And groundskeepers at parks and large corporate headquarters are equally guilty. In fact, a whole generation needs to rethink its addiction to lawns. Whoever is guilty of applying the fertilizer, these megadoses are eventually washed off the fields and lawns and into waterways. From there, they migrate to the nearest large bodies of water, where they spark such tremendous and unnatural growth in aquatic plants that the result is eutrophication , or lack of oxygen in the water as bacteria act to reduce the sheer mass of dying organic matter. One of these aquatic growths is algae, or phytoplankton. Moderate algal growth can produce higher fish yields and actually benefit lakes and oceans, but over- stimulation leads to a whole host of problems whose integral relationship to one another threatens not only aquatic but human life. A classic example would be the Baltic Sea, where phytoplankton are raging out of control. The Baltic Sea is, as a result, home to seven out of ten of the world’s largest “dead zones,” aquatic areas where nothing survives. One of the other three is the Gulf of Mexico, where a 2008 dead zone the size of Massachusetts is expected to grow in future years thanks to the U.S. government’s biofuel mandate. Most of the crops for biofuel are grown along the Mississippi River, which drains directly into this dead zone. In the Baltic, as elsewhere, overfishing has exacerbated the problem. Fish feed on smaller aquatic organisms, which themselves feed on the algae. Take the fish out of the equation, and the balance is lost. It’s very much like removing the wolves that keep down the deer population in order to protect the sheep, and it doesn’t work in the ocean any better than it works on land. Absolutely false. Brazil's government personnel attempting to rein in slash burning and cutting of Amazonian rain forest are vastly outnumbered by would-be settlers and often try to stop the madness at the risk of their lives.
the bigger question is; whose state will be polluted by the like of whitesands?
Right, that's why greenhouses increase CO2 to 1000 ppmv. It is fertilizer for plants. Currently CO2 is at historic lows for the planet. Mankind even does better at higher CO2 levels because we evolved when levels were higher. Without CO2 we have no forests, no agriculture, no life on this planet. "With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." CO2 is poison. You seem to be confusing it with oxygen. Right, that's why greenhouses increase CO2 to 1000 ppmv Do I need to amplify by saying CO2 is poison for humans? Are you better off breathing in an environment that has more CO2, or less CO2? How can you accuse anybody else of pseudo science after making a statement like you just did. Flies eat waste. This does not mean waste is food for people. Comprende?
Are you better off breathing in an environment that has more CO2, or less CO2? Actually according to the US Navy you are better off breathing an atmosphere of around 500 ppmv. That's higher than what we have on the planet. Man evolved at higher CO2 levels and has better brain function at higher levels. Yes if the levels get too high it will kill you but then too much water will kill you as well.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Lungs expel CO2 just like kidneys expel urine. People who are sick get pure oxygen to increase their chances of survival. Increasing oxygen capacity and its transport within the human body are the goals of: Athletic training, and health care, and spirituality - all at the same time. Your attempts to rationalize the amount of CO2 to promote some pet theory, and against these empirical facts, don't even rise to the level of junk science.
LOL! Don't you mean, "May he live long and prosper and stay where he is"?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Are you better off breathing in an environment that has more CO2, or less CO2? Actually according to the US Navy you are better off breathing an atmosphere of around 500 ppmv. That's higher than what we have on the planet. Man evolved at higher CO2 levels and has better brain function at higher levels. Yes if the levels get too high it will kill you but then too much water will kill you as well. Unfortunately you are arguing with people to whom facts are irrelevant. Over and over and over again the validating data keeps coming in that an increase in global CO2 levels would be a net benefit. However, since the "true beeeelieeeeeeevers", like any other rube taken in by some huckster, have totally accepted the falsehoods of the PsyOps selling Glowbull Warming from (((((shudder))))) (Cue scary theme music) antropogenic CO2, and any and all data contrary to their irrational fixations is rejected. They have a fixed idea predicated upon false data and so reject true data which is contrary to their false fixations. An old aphorism from toxicology is appropriate here: "The dose makes the poison." The argument that CO2 is increasing global temperatures, while founded upon multiple fallacies, is also predicated upon a false assumption that a change in CO2 level will have only the effects predicted by the Glowbull Warming hypothesis and no others. In other words it is a self limiting hypothesis that excludes all other known affects of an increase in CO2 levels while exaggerating its importance as a greenhouse gas. Methane, such as is coming out of the Gulf Oil blowout and rupture is a much more powerful greenhouse gas, but you don't hear the Glowbull Warming Mouthpieces talking about that. (Interesting datum that.) When Algore starts talking about Methane Credits, which he won't because it gores too many profitable activities, I might listen (but truthfully not likely as he is a proven liar and phony). However, we do not live in a static environment and an infinity of equilibrium states exist. As you rightly point out an increase in atmospheric CO2 also acts as a growth stimulant for plant life. And what do plants do with CO2 - they respirate and use it to metabolize nutrients. And what do they give off as their "waste" product from respiration? Hands please. Yes, that is correct they give off O2 otherwise known as free oxygen and upon which all animal life depends for their metabolic functions. In other words an increase in CO2 results in accelerated plant respiration which removes an increasing amount of CO2 from the atmosphere while at the same time boosting the availability of free oxygen. In addition to being at historically low levels of CO2 we are also at historically low levels of O2. Funny how that works out. The key point here is that levels of free oxygen are in direct relationship to the availability of carbon dioxide for a plant's normal respiratory cycle. As well humans evolved in not only a higher mix of CO2 but a higher level of O2. So, the Chicken Little Brigades who have been led down a wrong path with CO2 as a deadly greenhouse gas, with their supposed mitigation efforts (which are highly profitable to those trading in "carbon credits), are also mitigating the levels of O2 available to animal life. As J.E. Lovelock pointed out, before he was brow beat into joining the Glowbull Warming Hysteria, the planet operates in its normal range as a self stabilizing system i.e., you knock the system out of equilibrium in one direction and it reacts globally to reestablish an equilibrium state returning to a balance point. However, science, true science, is irrelevant to the ignoratti of Glowbull Warming, and as we saw with the Climate Research Unit e-mails, the top scientists pushing Glowbull Warming KNOW that it is a fraud being perpetrated for political reasons not environmental. We have many more pressing environmental issues that CO2 which is nothing more that a political distraction established to divert from the real problems. We are not seeing the die off of Bees, Snakes, Bats, Frogs, etc., due to an increase in CO2 and those are much stronger indicators of problems in the environment. The Glowbull Warming caused by Antropogenic CO2 is a false paradigm and the suckers who have bought on to it are just that S-U-C-K-E-R-S.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
LOL! Don't you mean, "May he live long and prosper and stay where he is"? Actually everything else is irrelevant - he should just stay where he is - or move to a nice little cabana on the Gulf.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
People also once widely believed that blood circulated by Tides (and ridiculed Dr. Harvey who first mapped the circulatory system), and that health was governed by "the Four Humours". The reality is that many people believe all manner of scientific bullshit and the PTB find those falsehoods useful in controlling the ignoratti.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Lets see now....... earlier up the thread I asked a couple of questions that are relevant and to the point of the topic discussion. In review...... And how did you respond? You didn't or the response was BS beyond the bounds of my questions. Now, here you are talking about CO2. Do you feel better delivering hot aire to us?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
A diet of tequila and pot makes mexicons talk like this.
_________________________________________________________________________ Hey kid - wanna buy a bridge? I'll make you a great deal. You can even pay in Carbon Credits. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Your question then, as now, was unresponsive and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. In short your question is naught more than a childish and ignorant attempt to divert the discussion and play "gotcha". Blow me. I am not obligated in any fashion to respond to hostile and irrelevant bullshit questions.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So, do you have anything responsive or relevant to the at hand discussion? I didn't think so. However, in my magnamity I will repeat my earlier post to farmfriend which you are avoiding and attempting to obfuscate: " Unfortunately you are arguing with people to whom facts are irrelevant. Over and over and over again the validating data keeps coming in that an increase in global CO2 levels would be a net benefit. However, since the "true beeeelieeeeeeevers", like any other rube taken in by some huckster, have totally accepted the falsehoods of the PsyOps selling Glowbull Warming from (((((shudder))))) (Cue scary theme music) antropogenic CO2, and any and all data contrary to their irrational fixations is rejected. They have a fixed idea predicated upon false data and so reject true data which is contrary to their false fixations. An old aphorism from toxicology is appropriate here: "The dose makes the poison." The argument that CO2 is increasing global temperatures, while founded upon multiple fallacies, is also predicated upon a false assumption that a change in CO2 level will have only the effects predicted by the Glowbull Warming hypothesis and no others. In other words it is a self limiting hypothesis that excludes all other known affects of an increase in CO2 levels while exaggerating its importance as a greenhouse gas. Methane, such as is coming out of the Gulf Oil blowout and rupture is a much more powerful greenhouse gas, but you don't hear the Glowbull Warming Mouthpieces talking about that. (Interesting datum that.) When Algore starts talking about Methane Credits, which he won't because it gores too many profitable activities, I might listen (but truthfully not likely as he is a proven liar and phony). However, we do not live in a static environment and an infinity of equilibrium states exist. As you rightly point out an increase in atmospheric CO2 also acts as a growth stimulant for plant life. And what do plants do with CO2 - they respirate and use it to metabolize nutrients. And what do they give off as their "waste" product from respiration? Hands please. Yes, that is correct they give off O2 otherwise known as free oxygen and upon which all animal life depends for their metabolic functions. In other words an increase in CO2 results in accelerated plant respiration which removes an increasing amount of CO2 from the atmosphere while at the same time boosting the availability of free oxygen. In addition to being at historically low levels of CO2 we are also at historically low levels of O2. Funny how that works out. The key point here is that levels of free oxygen are in direct relationship to the availability of carbon dioxide for a plant's normal respiratory cycle. As well humans evolved in not only a higher mix of CO2 but a higher level of O2. So, the Chicken Little Brigades who have been led down a wrong path with CO2 as a deadly greenhouse gas, with their supposed mitigation efforts (which are highly profitable to those trading in "carbon credits), are also mitigating the levels of O2 available to animal life. As J.E. Lovelock pointed out, before he was brow beat into joining the Glowbull Warming Hysteria, the planet operates in its normal range as a self stabilizing system i.e., you knock the system out of equilibrium in one direction and it reacts globally to reestablish an equilibrium state returning to a balance point. However, science, true science, is irrelevant to the ignoratti of Glowbull Warming, and as we saw with the Climate Research Unit e-mails, the top scientists pushing Glowbull Warming KNOW that it is a fraud being perpetrated for political reasons not environmental. We have many more pressing environmental issues that CO2 which is nothing more that a political distraction established to divert from the real problems. We are not seeing the die off of Bees, Snakes, Bats, Frogs, etc., due to an increase in CO2 and those are much stronger indicators of problems in the environment. The Glowbull Warming caused by Antropogenic CO2 is a false paradigm and the suckers who have bought on to it are just that S-U-C-K-E-R-S. "
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Are you a real live queer? Because I am not interested in homosexuals (as you admit you are in publick soliciting for some kind of thrill.) Now, let's take a peek at the rest of your most recent response ... I pulled the questions right into the thread topic, wherein you have consistently played around like a child or some flamer. Once again ...... here is the hard to answer question(s)from post #72: "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
To get attention? To be annoying?
Let the record show that Buckmonster Fullofit is unwilling and unable to refute the points contained in my post to farmfriend and thus finds is necessary to engage in disinformation tactics in an attempt to wipe the egg off of his face. I again repeat the post to farmfriend: Unfortunately you are arguing with people to whom facts are irrelevant. Over and over and over again the validating data keeps coming in that an increase in global CO2 levels would be a net benefit. However, since the "true beeeelieeeeeeevers", like any other rube taken in by some huckster, have totally accepted the falsehoods of the PsyOps selling Glowbull Warming from (((((shudder))))) (Cue scary theme music) antropogenic CO2, and any and all data contrary to their irrational fixations is rejected. They have a fixed idea predicated upon false data and so reject true data which is contrary to their false fixations. An old aphorism from toxicology is appropriate here: "The dose makes the poison." The argument that CO2 is increasing global temperatures, while founded upon multiple fallacies, is also predicated upon a false assumption that a change in CO2 level will have only the effects predicted by the Glowbull Warming hypothesis and no others. In other words it is a self limiting hypothesis that excludes all other known affects of an increase in CO2 levels while exaggerating its importance as a greenhouse gas. Methane, such as is coming out of the Gulf Oil blowout and rupture is a much more powerful greenhouse gas, but you don't hear the Glowbull Warming Mouthpieces talking about that. (Interesting datum that.) When Algore starts talking about Methane Credits, which he won't because it gores too many profitable activities, I might listen (but truthfully not likely as he is a proven liar and phony). However, we do not live in a static environment and an infinity of equilibrium states exist. As you rightly point out an increase in atmospheric CO2 also acts as a growth stimulant for plant life. And what do plants do with CO2 - they respirate and use it to metabolize nutrients. And what do they give off as their "waste" product from respiration? Hands please. Yes, that is correct they give off O2 otherwise known as free oxygen and upon which all animal life depends for their metabolic functions. In other words an increase in CO2 results in accelerated plant respiration which removes an increasing amount of CO2 from the atmosphere while at the same time boosting the availability of free oxygen. In addition to being at historically low levels of CO2 we are also at historically low levels of O2. Funny how that works out. The key point here is that levels of free oxygen are in direct relationship to the availability of carbon dioxide for a plant's normal respiratory cycle. As well humans evolved n not only a higher mix of CO2 but a higher level of O2. So, the Chicken Little Brigades who have been led down a wrong path with CO2 as a deadly greenhouse gas, with their supposed mitigation efforts (which are highly profitable to those trading in "carbon credits), are also mitigating the levels of O2 available to animal life. As J.E. Lovelock pointed out, before he was brow beat into joining the Glowbull Warming Hysteria, the planet operates in its normal range as a self stabilizing system i.e., you knock the system out of equilibrium in one direction and it reacts globally to reestablish an equilibrium state returning to a balance point. However, science, true science, is irrelevant to the ignoratti of Glowbull Warming, and as we saw with the Climate Research Unit e-mails, the top scientists pushing Glowbull Warming KNOW that it is a fraud being perpetrated for political reasons not environmental. We have many more pressing environmental issues that CO2 which is nothing more that a political distraction established to divert from the real problems. We are not seeing the die off of Bees, Snakes, Bats, Frogs, etc., due to an increase in CO2 and those are much stronger indicators of problems in the environment. The Glowbull Warming caused by Antropogenic CO2 is a false paradigm and the suckers who have bought on to it are just that S-U-C-K-E-R-S.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
To get attention? To be annoying? To get paid by the people running the PsyOp?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I wonder if BP will be able to "hide the decline"?
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Which decline? Please expand and clarify.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
O_I believes in infinite growth and therefore natural resources are sustainable through management. He won't answer the question posed because if he did... he would look ridiculous with all his fucked Bilderberg/Rothchild/Bankster/BIG_GOVERNMENT conspiracies. O_I is a laffingstock.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
No buck, you're a laffingstock. Hunnert.
Oh, just GREAT ... the chemtrail conspiracy theorist rears his ugly head....
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Where is my little buddy answering my two days old question?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Where is 4um's little flamer, O_I, answering a simple post from way up the thread from two days ago? Are you out dancing on the streets because you are gay and beg to come out of the closet? "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Uh, Buckie? If you think you have been flamed you're wrong. I have restrained myself, and will continue to do so as I learned sometime back that flame is counterproductive. However, when you insist posting flagarantly puerile pathetic inanities pulled from the dim realm of your gaping sphincter and then crowing like you have laid an asteroid you can expect that you will receive, if only tepidly compared to what I could do, a "suitable" response. That is, should I deign to even respond. Have a nice day. P.S. Blow me.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You are a queer .. there is no question about it.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
What a fucking faerie you are.... you can't even get your head up out of your own local ass to answer a few simple questions.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Metaphors are not your strong suit are they? Of course neither is sound argumentation free of false assumptions so it really comes as no surprise. And that is about all the time I am willing to waste on responding to your ankle biting.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You are a lamer. You tell me to blow you when I have asked for a response to my earlier questions. What is your response? You are a fucked upped, little queer unable AND incapable of answering direct questions.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Had you asked one intelligent question relevant to the discussion I likely would have answered. As for now ... ...Go Fish.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You are, indeed, a queer.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Excellent post O_I.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Thank you.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'll make you a great deal. You can even pay in Carbon Credits Hey kid, wanna wash down your CO2 swig with a piss chaser? After all, if CO2 which your lungs expel from your body is good for you, why not urine which gets ejected from your kidneys? It's unfortunate you've felt the need to use your tactic which so clearly is contradicted by facts a 5 year old can understand to push an antigovenment theory. There's plenty of other positions which are much more criticizable.
I'll make you a great deal. You can even pay in Carbon Credits Hey kid, wanna wash down your CO2 swig with a piss chaser? After all, if CO2 which your lungs expel from your body is good for you, why not urine which gets ejected from your kidneys? It's unfortunate you've felt the need to use your tactic which so clearly is contradicted by facts a 5 year old can understand to push an antigovenment theory. There's plenty of other positions which are much more criticizable. The first step in being able to sort out the truth of the situation is having the courage to look at the actual data and ask: "What does the data tell me?" Throwing temper tantrums and holding your breath until you turn blue do not change the data set. If one is actually applying the scientific method to the understanding of a problem that also requires a willingness to accept what the data tells us not what we would prefer it tell us e.g., confirming our preconceptions or PsyOps lines which we have been sold, accepted as true, and then only to find out it was not. Accepting or rejecting data based upon ones preconceptions is NOT science. At this point we have a substantial data set which as it continues to build demolishes the "CO2" as a greenhouse gas threat. The chief advocates of the theory have been caught lying, cooking the data to make it fit the theory rather than adjusting the theory to fit the observed phenomena, etc., ... The chief environmental groups supporting the theory (Sierra Club, World Wildlife Federation, etc.,...) are all largely recipients of Historical studies, based on ice core analysis, have shown that CO2 is a lagging indicator in planetary warming and tends to lag increased temperatures. In other words the warming occurs before the increases in atmospheric CO2. While proponents of Glowbull Warming have tried various means to explain away the inconvenient ice core data the data is what the data is. CO2 levels in the paleoclimate record show CO2 as lagging significantly behind increases in global temperatures. As well are the affects of increased CO2 on plant and animal life. Increases in CO2 (and again actual studies using real scientific method approaches have been done). What occurs? Plants grow faster and larger and they absorb a greater volume of CO2 while giving off O2, Oxygen, as a byproduct. So, while CO2 may be a poor greenhouse gas, methane as being released in great volume in the gulf - which the bought off major environmental groups are silent on - is a much more powerful greenhouse gas, it is a great growth stimulant for plants - they love the stuff and when more is available they absorb more and increase the richness of the atmospheric Oxygen content with their respiratory byproduct - oxygen. And then we look at the record of scientific honesty. Over and over and over again the proponents of Glowbull Warming have been caught lying, cheating, and fudging data to force it to fit the model rather than developing a model that accommodates the data. You are welcome to believe in any fairy tale you wish, but do not try to call it science. Anthropogenic Glowbull Warming from human created CO2 is not selling. The science does not support it and the body of data validating that view is growing. Now that the CRU and their attempts to prevent the publication of data injurious to their "pet" theories have been exposed we can see how the climate debate has been manipulated, with contrary data excluded, data cherry picked and perfectly valid data (such as selected continental readings taken in Russia) thrown out because it does not fit the theory. You are welcome to believe in anything you wish, but believing does not make inconvenient facts and observations invalid. In real science it means they have to be accommodated in any theory and the theory revised to accommodate the data - not the data thrown out because it doesn't fit the theory which is bass ackwards as far as true science goes. As for me I believe I'll have another cup of coffee.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestTruxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#76. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#74)
#77. To: farmfriend, buckeroo, Original_Intent (#58)
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life. BTW, the forests, especially the rain forests, are not the major sink for CO2 anyway. The biggest sink for CO2, also the biggest source of CO2, is by far the oceans.
There is a cascade failure going on in the world’s oceans that promises nothing but trouble in the future, and the problem stems in part from agricultural practices developed over the last half-decade aimed at growing more food on the same amount of land to feed rising populations.
The only deforestation that is taking place is in third world countries thanks to the NGOs that shut down domestic forestry.
#78. To: James Deffenbach (#3)
How much longer will California remain a part of the United States?
computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.
#79. To: AGAviator, buckeroo, Original_Intent (#77)
CO2 is poison. You seem to be confusing it with oxygen.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#80. To: farmfriend, buckeroo (#79)
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#81. To: AGAviator, buckeroo, Original_Intent (#80)
Do I need to amplify by saying CO2 is poison for humans?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#82. To: farmfriend (#81)
Actually according to the US Navy you are better off breathing an atmosphere of around 500 ppmv. That's higher than what we have on the planet.
#83. To: IRTorqued (#78)
the bigger question is; whose state will be polluted by the like of whitesands?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#84. To: farmfriend, AGAviator, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, James Deffenbach, all (#81)
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Do I need to amplify by saying CO2 is poison for humans?
#85. To: Original_Intent (#84)
#86. To: James Deffenbach, IRTorqued (#83)
the bigger question is; whose state will be polluted by the like of whitesands?
#87. To: Eric Stratton (#85)
Oil as a fossil fuel is also a false paradigm, but look how many people believe that bullshit.
#88. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend, AGAviator, James Deffenbach, all (#84)
Unfortunately you [farmfriend] are arguing with people [AGAviator, buckeroo] to whom facts are irrelevant.
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it. --buckeroo, two days ago.
#89. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#90. To: AGAviator (#82)
#91. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, abraxas, farmfriend, James Deffenbach (#88)
#92. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, abraxas, farmfriend, James Deffenbach (#88)
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#93. To: Original_Intent (#91)
Blow me.
Your [buckeroo] question then, as now, was unresponsive and irrelevant to the discussion at hand. In short your question is naught more than a childish and ignorant attempt to divert the discussion and play "gotcha".
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it.
#94. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#93)
Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#95. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, farmfriend, abraxas, James Deffenbach (#93)
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#96. To: wudidiz, bucket-a-goo, buckeroo (#94)
Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico?
#97. To: Original_Intent (#95)
However, science, true science, is irrelevant to the ignoratti of Glowbull Warming, and as we saw with the Climate Research Unit e-mails, the top scientists pushing Glowbull Warming KNOW that it is a fraud being perpetrated for political reasons not environmental.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#98. To: farmfriend (#97)
#99. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#97)
#100. To: buckeroo (#99)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#101. To: wudidiz (#100)
No buck, you're a laffingstock.
#102. To: Original_Intent (#95)
#103. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend, AGAviator, James Deffenbach, all (#102)
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it. --buckeroo, two days ago.
#104. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, farmfriend, AGAviator, James Deffenbach, all (#103)
#105. To: Original_Intent (#104)
P.S. Blow me.
#106. To: Original_Intent (#104)
... should I deign to even respond.
#107. To: buckeroo (#105)
#108. To: Original_Intent (#107)
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And that is about all the time I am willing to waste on responding to your ankle biting.
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it. --buckeroo, two days ago.
Blow me.
ankle biter
#109. To: buckeroo (#108)
#110. To: Original_Intent (#109)
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it. --buckeroo, two days ago.
#111. To: Original_Intent (#87)
#112. To: Original_Intent (#84)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#113. To: James Deffenbach (#112)
#114. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#90)
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Hey kid - wanna buy a bridge?
#115. To: AGAviator, farmfriend, James Deffenbach (#114)
Hey kid - wanna buy a bridge?
bribes grants from the people who benefit financially from pushing CO2 as a greenhouse gas and Glowbull Warming from anthropogenic CO2 (which is about 3% of the planetary CO2 production).
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