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Title: How much longer will California remain a part of the United States?
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Published: Jun 6, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-06 11:50:16 by Mind_Virus
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How much longer will California remain a part of the United States? Published on June 6th, 2010 California’s white population has declined since 2000 at an unprecedented rate, hastening the day when Hispanics will be the state’s largest population group, according to newly released state figures. Analysts said the decline can be attributed to two main causes – a natural population decrease as Baby Boomers enter their later years and die at a faster rate than younger whites have children, and a migration from California since 2001 among whites who sought affordable housing as real estate costs soared. The study also confirmed projections that a steadily growing Hispanic population will surpass whites as the state’s largest racial demographic in 2016. Hispanics are expected to become a majority of all Californians in 2042, Heim said. A University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within the century, taking in the Southwest and several northern states of Mexico. Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.
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#233. To: farmfriend (#228)
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And here are their motives: Biased towards making and keeping money rather than doing what it takes to find out the truth: "While we understand the evidence that has led them to view CO2 emissions as harmful, the IPCC's conclusions are quite inadequate as justification for implementing policies that will markedly diminish future prosperity" "Balanced cost/benefit analyses provide no support for the introduction of global measures to cap and reduce energy consumption for the purpose of restricting CO2 emissions."
It doesn't seem to occur to the culprits that as areas move from cold to temperate, their trees get bigger, and as areas move from temperate to hot, the trees get smaller or even die off. Higher Temperatures Slow Tropical Tree GrowthClimate change may be reducing growth rates of tropical rainforest trees, a development that could have widespread impacts for biodiversity, forest productivity, and even climate change itself, according to new research published in Ecology Letters. Analyzing tree growth in 50-hectare forest plots in Panama and Malaysia, a team of researchers led by Harvard University biologist Kenneth Feeley found that tree growth rates have decreased dramatically for the majority of species in two lowland tropical forests over the past couple of decades. The results contradict the hypothesis that elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide levels would boost growth rates of trees in the tropics by speeding plant respiration. "Global change presents plants with two types of change that might have opposite effects on plant growth," explained study co-author Dr. S. Joseph Wright, a scientist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute. "Increases in atmospheric CO2 provide more substrate for photosynthesis and might lead to increased growths. Increases in temperature increase respiration rates and might lead to decreased growth, as appears to be the case in our study."
And here are their motive: Biased towards making and keeping money rather than doing what it takes to find out the truth: Attaboy! I knew you would find a way to try to avoid acknowledging that there were a considerable body of scientists who, on sound scientific basis, regard Glowbull warming as bunk. And your proof of your accusation is? Of course we won't talk about how a very disproportionate share of grants and funding went to the now discredited phonies advocating what they knew was a false theory, Glowbull Warming, at the CRU and their like minded bribe takers at a variety of institutions. You are right though "follow the money". Very quickly you find out that it was very profitable and advantageous to push the theory of Glowbull Warming which the elites want for other agendas - such as Carbon Taxes, and Control of individual behavior.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I know. I understand. And so as to clarify how you have acted on this thread... let me remind you of your previous posts on this same thread, lamer ... You have no position. You are a liar. You are a charlatan. You have a solid capability to misinform while your polysyllables are sponsored by BS organizations. Here, answer thes questions from WAY ABOVE in this same thread, lamer: >> So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style? And no more smart ass BS lamer, plagiarized pictures that you are famous for. Come clean. Answer the questions. Be honest for once in your life.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL that's what you keyed in on? You really have no clue who is funding AGW and why do you? It is quite simply the oil companies through their tax exempt NGOs. From my friend Carry_Okies great post: So it isn't exactly by coincidence that it is those same colossal foundations that are making all those "charitable" donations to those icky Greens. The Environmental Grantmakers Association? That's Rockefeller. The Pew Charitable Trusts? That's Sunoco. W. Alton Jones? That's Citgo. The World Wildlife Fund? BP and Shell. You do see a pattern, don't you? These are more than investors in energy, their assets include timber, mining, banking, food production… They aren't fools. They use the same simple and ancient recipe as did their European forbears by which to manufacture a predictable return: Kill the competition with regulations, create a shortage, and cash in. It's become so common there is even an excellent book out on the topic that I suggest you read, . It's a simple process that has accelerated over the last five decades. It's a vertically integrated racketeering system that extends over the entire planet. American investors in multinational operations are perfectly happy taking a hit on US operations destroying domestic production because their investments abroad get the business. They either convert domestic resource land to real estate or mothball it under tax exempt conservancies, Federal monuments, and such. It's been done in industry after industry: timber, energy, mining, beef, fish, agriculture, real estate development, soon water… ALL taking advantage of economies of scale in environmental compliance and sometimes selective enforcement. Tax-exempt foundations buy the research "data" they need, fund a few ideological groups trained by the same professorate that lives off their grant money, and not a word need be breathed to the companies in which they are invested. Their pet executives wail about the regulations and scream how stupid and counterproductive they are, just like you do. It makes great theater. There is virtually no way of getting caught. by Ron Arnold ... Always follow the money.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." That explains much. You are one of those people who thinks it is a crime for anyone to live well and prosper. Much better to drag everyone down to slave state status living in the equal misery of a socialist dictatorship where everyone is equal - except that some are more equal than others. How is economic prosperity incompatible with a clean environment? How is an ineffectual policy which diminishes the economic, and thus physical welfare of all but the hyper-wealthy, while trying to solve a non-existent problem superior to a set of policies which promote the general welfare while seeking to solve the real environmental problems? And here again we come back to your fixation on dragging the world down into a miserable poverty because you resent some being more able, thus producing more, and having more. So, at long last we arrive at the point where your real reasons for supporting a discredited theory, for which you can provide no credible support, it is not because of your desire to improve the environment but your desire to drag other people down, because you have a neurotic fixation and distaste for anyone doing well while doing good. The two are not incompatible. It is possible to have prosperity AND a clean enviroment. Can you demonstrate in any way how prosperity and the general welfare of the environment are mutually exclusive, and here I am not talking about individual polluters or abuses, but on the "Meta-scale" as a general proposition? Of course you can't and I expect, if you reply, to be treated to more socialist hogwash about how we must all live a hair shirt existence in divine misery because it is just so unfair that the able are more successful than the inable.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
From your link: "Our study may indicate that the accelerated tree growth observed at other forests is not indicative of a concerted pantropical response to global environmental changes, but rather that the changes in tropical forest dynamics and structure are driven primarily through regional climate changes such as increased temperature and/or cloudiness," Feeley told mongabay.com via email. Yet you would not only extend the study to tropics but the entire world. While this scenario is ominous, Feeley cautions that more research is needed to understand and model the effects of climate change on forests. "There remains a great deal of uncertainty in the underlying mechanisms as well as the generality of these results. These uncertainties highlight the need for additional long-term large-scale research from other tropical forests." Oh but let's take it as gospel and destroy our global economy based on a preliminary and localized study. And BTW, the greatest carbon sinks are by far the oceans. Oh yes now we are back to oceans being slightly less base than they were a century ago, maybe.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." LOL! We were on the same page coming from different angles. LOL!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Thhhhhhhpppppppppppppp! You already have discredited yourself buckie. By lying about me and stating opinions as mine which I have not expressed you discredit yourself as a lying sack of shit. I have never put anyone on bozo before except to eliminate a spammers warping of a thread, but I am getting very very close.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Link Similarly, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Early Carboniferous Period were approximately 1500 ppm (parts per million), but by the Middle Carboniferous had declined to about 350 ppm -- comparable to average CO2 concentrations today! Earth's atmosphere today contains about 380 ppm CO2 (0.038%). Compared to former geologic times, our present atmosphere, like the Late Carboniferous atmosphere, is CO2- impoverished! In the last 600 million years of Earth's history only the Carboniferous Period and our present age, the Quaternary Period, have witnessed CO2 levels less than 400 ppm. The carboniferous period started out with high CO2 which caused and abundance of plant growth (now coal) which in turn dropped the CO2 levels by the end of the period. I still fail to see how even doubling our CO2 would be harmful.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Great minds...
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." The sky would fall?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Yes! The rich would not get richer through scamming carbon credits and controlling energy markets.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Yes! The rich would not get richer through scamming carbon credits and controlling energy markets. One of the things that I've discovered, other than that they are neurotic, is leftists, and at this point it is mostly leftists who support Glowbull Warming, have a real fixation on controlling people and resenting anyone having anything beyond bare subsistence (except Limousine Liberals who are a different kind of phony). I cornered a leftist friend one day and point by point destroyed Glowbull Warming - her response? "Well we need to do it anyway because man is destroying the environment." In other words she was willing to go along with a fraud because it furthered her particular set of prejudices. I found that an interesting insight into the leftist mind. They are willing to "believe" and push a Lie in other to foist their political prejudices and neurotic desire to create "social justice" (everyone living in misery).
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I found the same thing when discussing logging with lefties. For them it had nothing to do with the environment. It was all about keeping logging companies from making a profit. I heard it time and again. One of the funniest things I ever saw was an enviro group saying it was ok to log as long as they used solar powered chain saws.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." >> So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style? I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one. I guess seventy to seven hundred billion people would be able to live on this planet if doing so properly.
This sentence open to grammatical editing.
Yes the subordinate conjunction if may indeed be followed by an adverbial gerund phrase, but it must be followed by a finite verb clause. Cheers.
One of the problems with those indoctrinated into the "Club of Rome" "Limits to Growth" crowd is that they have a neurotic fixation that population necessarily leads to environmental degradation. Of course that is provable nonsense but it is one of their articles of "Faith" in the Global Religion of Scarcity. Of course according to the Club of Rome and their "Limits To Growth" Report they were projecting food riots in about 20 years ago i.e., the late 80's. Food, is as available if not more so now. Where there are food shortages it is always traceable to the political environment. Zimbabwe was a major food exporter until Robert Mugabe was put in power by the CIA and their bosses in London. Now thanks to the destruction of the farming infrastructure, runaway hyper-inflation, and driving out farmers because they were white they now have famine and must import food. India, one of the most densely populated countries on the planet, is a net exporter of food. Time and again when something becomes scarce people develop or find alternatives. With sound management of agriculture we could easily feed 70 Billion People although with a generally high level of education and development population might actually begin to decline. The U.S. population was already declining in the 80's as the birth rate was less than the death rate. The only thing that has kept it artificially pumped up and increasing is illegal immigration. One of things that has shown up statistically, from what I've read, is that developed first world nations with a generally higher standard of living actually tend to stabilize or decline in population. A lot of reasons have been theorized but I think the simplest is that the survival threats are not as extreme and thus the urge to reproduce to further the existence of the human race declines. Fewer threats means less urgency. So the norm becomes smaller families. If you live in a degraded society where half of the children die before adulthood then the urge to survive drives the reproductive urge. So, the solution to global over population, which we are nowhere near, is to raise ALL standards of living for each and every person thus indirectly lowering the birth rate.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Here is YOUR "esteemed" so-called "objective" responses on this thread..... >Thhhhhhhpppppppppppppp! You are a phoney. You are a GODAMED liar... and you can see the same by your own comments. You are a political HACK... something out of a grab bag ... that has no basis or foundation of scientific thought. Yet you can not answer a simple question that I posted WAY UP the thread: "we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
BTW, thanks guys for some really great posts on this interesting thread. Only had time today to peek in from time to time. Been outdoors working on this "honey do" Saturday. It's HOT and STICKY in Houston. (This is a "heat island," you know.) ;)
Wondering what will be the Tubster's haul when the split is finalized? Fortunately, I have not seen the windbag liar lately. And I have no idea how much he has made off gullible people. I bet it would be astounding.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Po' beebey. Shall I call a Wahhhhhhhhmbulance for you? I have given your question all the attention it deserves - none. You have consistently misrepresented my position, put words in my mouth, and been an all around wanker. G'bye BOZO.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I'll let you know if you miss anything.
Thank you.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It might be a while.
As you say lamer FUCK YOU... BTW, you can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag without a "polysyllable" you just looked upped at Dictionary.com while maintaintaining your political hack from the JBS. You are a liar. More than that, you are a thief. His your reward based ipon you own BS.... You are about as objective as a muther-fucker begging to give you an ass-WHOOPIN'..... which has been performed.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
That's fine. At this point I am so disgusted with that other person that I care not whether I read any of his blather again. I am tired of his stoopid "gotcha" games, misquotes, out of context quotes, and outright prevarication that it will be a cold day in hell before he comes off my "list".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Well, it is Saturday night you know....
He is too busy with his divorce.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Yes, I catch the drift - "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It isn't. All the proof of that you need is to visit some third world hell hole (like Haiti for example, even before the earthquake) and look at the squalor and filth. Then compare it to any upscale neighborhood in the US or any first-world country where they take pride in their homes and communities. All the difference in the world.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Expletives, ad-homs, typos, spelling errors. It'll probably get worse as the night progresses.
With all this global warming that may be sooner rather than later. "With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Oh de humanity! We mus' not be in Kansas no mo', Toto!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Solar-powered chain saws? Are you serious, someone actually said that? My best friend and his brothers (and their dad) were in the logging business for years. His dad has passed on but if he, or any of his boys, had heard someone say that they would have probably laughed themselves to death.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Only had time today to peek in from time to time. Been outdoors working on this "honey do" Saturday. It's HOT and STICKY in Houston. (This is a "heat island," you know.) Thanks. Hot and sticky in Houston in the summertime? Who woulda thunk it? ahaha. And yeah, I did know it was a "heat island." I think all of Texas is a "heat island" in the summertime.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Tipper out on the loose and with all that money. Bet she will be on her back again in no time. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yes, I'll see if I can find a reference.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." I don't doubt your word. Just astounded that there are people out loose amongst us who are really that stupid.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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"We therefore need to equip nations to become resilient to the full range of these natural phenomena by promoting economic growth and wealth generation. "
#234. To: buckeroo (#226)
With about 150 years of climbing CO2, the world has found increasing tree growth towards both Antartica and the Artic. Why? It has been measured that CO2 concentrations don't exist in the extreme cold (probably due to industrial pollutants) while average increasing temperatures exist with CO2 concentrations.
#235. To: AGAviator, farmfriend, HighLairEon, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#233)
Here are the scientists I correspond with personally on a daily basis.
#236. To: Original_Intent (#227)
The level of confusion and misrepresentation of my position, and where I cull the data from is somewhere out beyond Pluto.
fuck yourself.
Blow me.
ankle biter
...Go Fish.
the Chicken Little Brigades
S-U-C-K-E-R-S.
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it.
#237. To: AGAviator (#233)
The key to cracking the Constitutional system was international law, a loophole in Article VI Clause 2 of the Constitution, governing the adoption of treaties and the scope of their powers (IMO the rat Patrick Henry and others smelled only too clearly; if you want a good chuckle read Hamilton's defense of the manner of treaty ratification in Federalist #75). To implement the plan European investors needed a foothold in the US before they could get into the market. Until the Civil War, corporations were haltered in the US because they were not allowed to own land and were not protected under the Constitution in a manner co-equal to citizens. After the Civil War the US was deeply in debt to that very European investor class. The 14th Amendment changed that balance of power between the individual and corporate. Once the appropriate Supreme Court cases were in place interpreting persons "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" as including corporate persons, corporations then derived equal protection under the laws and could own property, the investment floodgates opened, and that not only created an American industrial colossus, it produced an American investor class owning enormously influential private tax-exempt foundations.
1. Foist the necessary treaty law via (primarily American) NGOs at UN environmental agencies (largely funded by the US government).
2. Get the implementing legislation through Congress.
3. Use lawsuits by those same NGOs in federal courts to alter the meaning of the law.
4. Overwhelm the agencies with graduates brainwashed by professors who subsist of government and foundation grants.
5. Establish the regulatory power on the local level to control the decision-making with the cheapest politicians money can buy.The Pew Charitable Trusts
Global Warming Power NexusThe Philadelphia-based Pew Charitable Trusts is one of the nation’s largest and most influential philanthropic foundations. The Pew Charitable Trusts are actually an interlocking set of seven trusts established by the children of turn-of-thecentury oil baron Joseph N. Pew, and stewarded by the family’s private investment bank, the Glenmede Trust Company, which is the trustee of the seven charitable trusts. Glenmede manages $14 billion of total Pew family wealth, about $4 billion of which belongs to the Pew Charitable Trusts.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#238. To: AGAviator, farmfriend, HighLairEon, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#233)
"We therefore need to equip nations to become resilient to the full range of these natural phenomena by promoting economic growth and wealth generation. "
"Balanced cost/benefit analyses provide no support for the introduction of global measures to cap and reduce energy consumption for the purpose of restricting CO2 emissions."
#239. To: AGAviator (#234)
The results differ from earlier research, based on surveys in the Amazon, which found that large fast-growing canopy trees exhibited higher growth rates possibly in response to rising carbon dioxide levels (Laurance et al. 2004, Lewis et al. 2004). The researchers say that the discrepancy between their findings, which are based on a wider range of species, and those in the Amazon, show that the effects of higher temperatures differ regionally and cannot be generalized for the tropics.
"If our hypothesis that tropical tree growth rates are decreasing in response to higher temperatures is correct, this creates the danger of positive feedbacks: higher temperatures cause reduced tree growth which in turn results in slower rates of carbon uptake and more deforestation/land conversion, which then results in accelerated increases of atmospheric CO2 and global warming, causing further reductions in growth and so on and so on," said Feeley.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#240. To: farmfriend (#237)
#241. To: buckeroo (#236)
#242. To: AGAviator (#234)
Average global temperatures in the Early Carboniferous Period were hot- approximately 20° C (68° F). However, cooling during the Middle Carboniferous reduced average global temperatures to about 12° C (54° F). As shown on the chart below, this is comparable to the average global temperature on Earth today!
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#243. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#240)
LOL! We were on the same page coming from different angles. LOL!
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#244. To: farmfriend (#242)
I still fail to see how even doubling our CO2 would be harmful.
#245. To: Original_Intent (#244)
The sky would fall?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#246. To: farmfriend (#245)
The sky would fall?
#247. To: Original_Intent (#246)
I found that an interesting insight into the leftist mind. They are willing to "believe" and push a Lie in other to foist their political prejudices and neurotic desire to create "social justice" (everyone living in misery).
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#248. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#236)
Here, answer thes questions from WAY ABOVE in this same thread, lamer:
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#249. To: All (#248)
I guess seventy to seven hundred billion people would be able to live on this planet if doing so properly.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#250. To: wudidiz (#249)
#251. To: wudidiz (#248)
I guess seventy to seven hundred billion people would be able to live on this planet if doing so properly.
#252. To: Original_Intent (#241)
I have never put anyone on bozo before except to eliminate a spammers warping of a thread, but I am getting very very close.
Blow me.
ankle biter
...Go Fish.
the Chicken Little Brigades
S-U-C-K-E-R-S.
So what is it? Human population can be sustained infinitely in growth? Or is there a finite threshold, somewhere? And, if human population growth is finite, where is that threshold that may sustain humanity with a high quality of life style?
I say, with about seven BILLION people, mankind has already surpassed the capability to enjoy a good level of life style much less a high one.
So, let's go back to the original article of this thread. Why do you think some college professor suggests that a new nation shall be born in the near future, encompassing the Southwest of the US and Northern Mexico? I say, it is because certain people want a high quality of lifestyle typically afforded in the Southwest of the US. And, they want to take it away from those that already have it. --buckeroo, FOUR days ago.
In effect, you are a liar and a thief. You are a goddamed BSer...
#253. To: wudidiz, farmfriend, HighLairEon, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#249)
#254. To: Lod (#232)
Any sightings of the Wooden One lately?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#255. To: buckeroo (#252)
#256. To: Original_Intent (#255)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#257. To: wudidiz (#256)
#258. To: Original_Intent (#257)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#259. To: Original_Intent (#255)
fuck yourself.
Blow me.
ankle biter
...Go Fish.
the Chicken Little Brigades
S-U-C-K-E-R-S.
#260. To: wudidiz (#258)
#261. To: Original_Intent (#260)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#262. To: James Deffenbach, Lod (#254)
Fortunately, I have not seen the windbag liar lately. And I have no idea how much he has made off gullible people. I bet it would be astounding.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#263. To: wudidiz (#261)
Well, it is Saturday night you know....
#264. To: Original_Intent (#238)
How is economic prosperity incompatible with a clean environment?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#265. To: Original_Intent, All (#261)
Well, it is Saturday night you know....
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#266. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz (#260)
it will be a cold day in hell before he comes off my "list".
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#267. To: Original_Intent (#244)
The sky would fall?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#268. To: farmfriend (#247)
One of the funniest things I ever saw was an enviro group saying it was ok to log as long as they used solar powered chain saws.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#269. To: randge (#253)
BTW, thanks guys for some really great posts on this interesting thread.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#270. To: farmfriend (#262)
He is too busy with his divorce.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#271. To: James Deffenbach (#268)
Solar-powered chain saws? Are you serious, someone actually said that?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#272. To: farmfriend (#271)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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