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Title: Evidence Points To BP Oil Spill False Flag
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/evidence-points-to-bp-oil-spill-false-flag/
Published: Jun 8, 2010
Author: Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Post Date: 2010-06-08 15:30:19 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 441
Comments: 39

Sales of shares and stocks in days and weeks beforehand

- Halliburton link, acquisition of cleanup company days before explosion

- BP report cites undocumented tampering with well sealing equipment

- Government uses disaster to push for Carbon Tax, Nationalization talk

Troubling evidence surrounding the Deepwater Horizon explosion on April 20th suggests that the incident could have been manufactured.

On April 12th, just over one week before the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded, Halliburton, the world’s second largest oilfield services corporation, surprised some by acquiring Boots & Coots, a relatively small but vastly experienced oil

well control companies.

The company deals with fires and blowouts on oil rigs and oil wells. It was responsible for putting out roughly one third of the more than 700 oil well fires set in Kuwait by retreating Iraqi soldiers during the Gulf War.

The deal itself is still under scrutiny with Boots and Coots facing an ongoing investigation into “possible breaches of fiduciary duty and other violations of state law”

Where this information gets really interesting is with the fact that Halliburton is named in the majority of some two dozen lawsuits filed since the explosion by Gulf Coast people and businesses who claim that the company is to blame for the disaster.

Halliburton was forced to admit in testimony at a congressional hearing last month that it carried out a cementing operation 20 hours before the Gulf of Mexico rig went up in flames. The lawsuits claim that four Halliburton workers stationed on the rig improperly capped the well.

As the New York Times noted on May 26th, “BP officials chose, partly for financial reasons, to use a type of casing for the well that the company knew was the riskier of two options,”

Workers from the rig and company officials have said that hours before the explosion, gases were leaking through the cement, which had been set in place by the oil services contractor, Halliburton. Investigators have said these leaks were the likely cause of the explosion.”

According to a 2007 study by Minerals Management Service, cementing was a factor in 18 of 39 rig blowouts in the gulf between 1992 and 2006.

Another intriguing connection Boots and Coots has to the Deepwater Horizon explosion comes via Pat Campbell, the man BP has employed to cap the well beneath the ruined rig. Campbell worked for Boots and Coots as general manager for many years.

BP has admitted to buying Yahoo and Google keywords in an attempt to control publicly available information in the wake of the catastrophe. It seems that the company is taking all the flack for the spill while the Halliburton link is being roundly ignored.

BP’s prepared testimony briefing, which has since leaked online, also intriguingly notes that the Hydraulic Control System on equipment designed to automatically seal the well in an emergency was modified without their knowledge sometime before the explosion.

“the extent of these modifications is unknown at this time” states the report on page 37.

Possible prior knowledge of the explosion is also evident via huge dumping of stocks and shares in the weeks and days prior to the incident.

Goldman Sachs dumped 44% of its shares in BP Oil during the first quarter – shares that subsequently lost 36 percent of their value, equating to $96 million.

Other asset management firms also sold huge blocks of BP stock in the first quarter. Though the amounts pale in comparison to Goldman’s holdings, Wachovia, owned by Wells Fargo, sold 98% of its shares in BP and Swiss bank UBS sold 97% of its BP shares.

Furthermore, as reported by the London Telegraph on June 5th, Tony Hayward, the chief executive of BP, sold £1.4 million of his shares in the fuel giant weeks before the spill.

In the days before the Deepwater explosion, Obama had announced a new effort to explore for and lease new drilling locations in the deep Gulf and in Alaska. In the wake of the disaster, these plans have been cancelled and BP is taking a PR bashing.

All of which has been capitalized on by the Obama administration to reinvigorate talk of a carbon tax and has created the opportunity to reintroduce the idea of nationalizing oil, which the Democratic leadership has long sought.

The full story of what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico is yet to emerge, there are rumours of more spills and an ongoing coverup. The site represents a $2.2 trillion source of wealth and power, a motive along with a plethora of suspicious activity that needs to be investigated further.


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Kerrville911Truth Says:

June 8th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

It was an Inside Job, but like 9/11 it is, according to the new Jones, a distraction. WRONG. It is going to kill the Gulf, and already has done massive death.

Listen up, and listen closely, this is the biggest event in our lives, and biggest event of all time. 200 million gallons have spilled. An explosive would stop the leak, if pushed down the pipe to 10,000 feet. Thousands of below ground bombs have been detonated with no ill effects.

To minimize this is the worst possible thing to do. I have been doing 911Truth for 7 years, but this is BIGGER. Far bigger. The Gulf states are going to starve, and die, the Gulf is going to die.

You can fight population control all you want, but here it is get after it, because if you don’t the future is already determined, and we aren’t part of it.

By the way, the largest killers are slips and falls, cigarettes, heart disease, and Rx scripts, and auto accidents. Wake up people, the oil will be #1 very soon, I promise.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

I think the argument made here sounds credible.

The relief well is at 12,000 feet now. If a nuke could be used at 10,000 feet, a well could have been in place over a week ago to position a nuke or other high explosive to shut this thing off.

The Russians have done this sort of thing seven or eight times already. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As to the apocalyptic nature of this disaster, WE WILL SOON SEE.

randge  posted on  2010-06-08   16:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: randge, 4 (#1)

The Russians have done this sort of thing seven or eight times already. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As to the apocalyptic nature of this disaster, WE WILL SOON SEE.

Correct, imo.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-08   16:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

I think I first posited this on about day 2.

Given what I wrote in the essay that went viral we are unfortunately right on track for decimating the Confederacy and all of the farms in the Southern Gulf States on up into the midwest.

The effect of this event is going to stretch far beyond the Gulf, and I still stand by my suggestion that this could well result in hundreds of millions dead.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-08   17:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, all (#0)

Evidence Points To BP Oil Spill False Flag

Typical alex jones bullshit.

I see no evidence presented that this was a false flag. Stock selling =/= evidence.

Just because there is a disaster doesn't mean They are behind it.

If it was a false flag, it won't be jones that exposes it. He will steal it, like he stole from Cooper.

Listen up, and listen closely, this is the biggest event in our lives, and biggest event of all time.

Anytime some tard tells me to listen up and listen closely, I know I am about to be lied to. It is not the biggest event of all time. I was lied to.

Wake up people, the oil will be #1 very soon, I promise.

You promise? Pinkie swear! I demand that you pinkie swear!

Sheesh.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-08   18:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

It was an Inside Job, but like 9/11 it is, according to the new Jones, a distraction. WRONG. It is going to kill the Gulf, and already has done massive death

O.K. I can accept that it was an inside job, but not a false flag like 9/11. A false flag is when you blame another country for your own evil deeds. Yes?

I have always maintained that Dick Cheney never really severed his ties with Halliburton. There was too much money to be made in Iraq for him to give all that up. Here again we see Halliburton involved in another money making scheme of disasterous proportions. As usual it's a case of-FOLLOW THE MONEY.

What I don't understand is why they seem determined to kill off the Gulf. Katrina also devastated the South, and killed thousands. My guess is that TPTB are determined to drive the Southern black population into Northern urban ghettos to increase crime and foster racial tensions.

My reason for thinking this is that an all-out race war would trigger martial law. The election of Obama has already fostered racial tensions whether we admit it or not.

There are also benefits to concentrating the population in cities if martial law was to be declared under any "state of emergency."

AHA! THERE YOU HAVE IT! A lightbulb just went on. If a state of emergency is declared as a result of the crisis in the Gulf, FEMA can invoke martial law and become the government, under the Continuity of Government clause. The South has had it! They are about to explode. So has the North.

angK  posted on  2010-06-09   3:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent, *Escape From ElPee*, *9-11* (#3)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i? ArtNum=118658&Disp=0#C0


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-09   4:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA (#4)

Yeah. Some folks get a bit twitchy about things and tend to see their preferred demon lurking behind every curtain.

There could be cases where there are nefarious plots and schemes, don't get me wrong. It's just worrisome that every disaster now is a matter of "They!" and that the whole "false flag" meme is being used so often that it's become meaningless and even subject to automatic ridicule. When the wolf really does show up, nobody is going to pay attention to the little boy screaming wolf (yet again). People never learn.

The one and only thing that bothers me from a "creepy" perspective on this is why Obeyme sent SWAT teams to every rig in the Gulf. That makes absolutely zero sense and cannot be justified by any scenario that I'm aware of. If it was "terrah-ists" you'd send in the military or SEALS, not SWAT teams. It just makes no sense.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-09   8:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent, christine (#3)

I can't confirm this....

Wednesday, June 9, 2010
EVERY SEA CREATURE IN GULF IS BEING KILLED & NAT'L GUARD HAS ORDERS TO KILL TRESPASSERS
Submitted by JS --- Thanks

Rumourmill News

Vatic Master says: EVERY SEA CREATURE IN GULF IS BEING KILLED & NAT'L GUARD HAS ORDERS TO KILL TRESPASSERS

Posted By: NaturalWisdom
Date: Wednesday, 9-Jun-2010 00:58:18
In Response To: Readers: JAMES FOX phone call with MEL FABERGAS, WEIRD CONDITIONS AT GRAND ISLE, LA - IS DISASTER GREATER THAN REPORTED? (hobie)

From The Vatic Project site:
2010-06-08
ALERT: 2nd UPDATE: Grand Isles – The Facts and the Still Unconfirmed Reports

Here is another just received on word of mouth from the Grand Isle....... this is the quote, it appears they are bringing the bodies of the dolphins and the whales in under cover and putting them in tents... hiding them like they do our boys coming back dead from overseas.

From a source...
QUOTE
We hear they are bringing them in under the cover of darkness on a beach on the Louisiana coast that has been covered in military tenting including a closed in tented hallway that leads to the boat docking area.

Local rumor also has it, now how true this is I can not verify as it is local word among the Cajuns, that the National Guard has been given orders in some area, or an area, to shoot anyone that insists on trespassing across homeland security lines drawn somewhere on our coast out there.
UNQUOTE

They are killing off every living thing in the gulf, whales, dolphins, fish, everthing. All for greed and power. Bring the Bilderbergs to trial and the Trilateral commission and the CFR. At this point, maybe we should use the Patriot act on them and just skip the whole trial thing. Now wouldn 't that be poetic justice. What are our soldiers doing obeying such orders from such criminals????

The Vatic Project http://vaticproject.blogspot.com

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...ure-in-gulf-is-being.html

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From Rumor Mill News:

Readers: JAMES FOX phone call with MEL FABERGAS, WEIRD CONDITIONS AT GRAND ISLE, LA - IS DISASTER GREATER THAN REPORTED?

Posted By: hobie
Date: Tuesday, 8-Jun-2010 20:41:56

Hi, Folks -

Thanks to the three Readers who have written to me about this so far. :)

I'm reluctant to post this, because its content leads us toward fear-based speculation, and in the "fog" of the situation in the Gulf, we don't have much of a solid foundation from which to speculate. CAUTION AND DISCERNMENT ARE ADVISED on this.

From Kerry Cassidy's blog at Project Camelot:

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html
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June 8

Lock-down on the Gulf

From a source:

"IMPORTANT!!!!!!!Hello i just got this mp3 interview with James Fox (i kinow what i saw en into the blue), done by the veritasshow today (this was the text that was posted with it by Mel Fabregas..)" -- a source.

["A few minutes ago, I conducted a short interview with documentary filmmaker, James Fox. He is presently in Grand Isle, Louisiana. The closest location to the Gulf oil spill. Before I spoke to James I received a few unsubstantiated reports that I put on the side.

What I'm about to share with you is extremely important. There is an absolute MEDIA BLACKOUT in the area. People are being arrested everywhere. Hotels in a 70-mile radius are completely sold out, yet, you don't see any vans or reporters filming. It's as if the entire area was under siege.

James Fox has witnessed this and he basically just arrived. He says he saw multiple Chevron helicopters flying. He has not seen any military activity. It's as if the oil companies had taken over. James expected to rent a plane to fly over it and that is not possible. The area above the oil spill is now a NO-FLY-ZONE. He will be there for two weeks.

I am issuing this bulleting because James Fox's name needs to be out in the public, as there is a possibility that he will be arrested. I have plans to talk to the Grand Isle's Police Department to get further clarification regarding these arrests, since James people don't even know who is conducting these arrests. James had the opportunity to talk to the son of one of the cleanup workers (former fisherman) and he told him no one is talking. He did say that no one is being told the extent of this disaster. It is much bigger than what is being reported.

The government is NOT IN CONTROL. The ones exercising all influence are the oil companies. Where is our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? I will be posting my interview with James at the forum shortly. When I called him I wanted to remain optimistic and felt people were exaggerating or simply fear mongering. After my conversation with James I can categorically say that my level of concern has risen to unprecedented levels and now I'm putting more credence to the reports I'm receiving.] -- Mel Fabregas reporting

CLICK HERE for the mp3 (18min long) feel free to post it, this info has to be out in the open."

Posted here to support James Fox's request to put this info out there. MP3 coming shortly.. or go to Mel Fabregas's site.

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Articles In This Thread

* NEW: Readers: JAMES FOX phone call with MEL FABERGAS, WEIRD CONDITIONS AT GRAND ISLE, LA - IS DISASTER GREATER THAN REPORTED? (views: 2093) hobie -- Tuesday, 8-Jun-2010 20:41:56

o NEW: Spooky Indeed (views: 1088) Lance -- Tuesday, 8-Jun-2010 21:03:28

o NEW: CGI's NotRob Sends More! - More on this Please Listen!!! (views: 979) CGI_admin -- Tuesday, 8-Jun-2010 22:50:17

o NEW: CGI's NotRob: Possible Battle Hardened Troops Invade Into Grand Isle Louisiana (views: 1093) CGI_admin -- Tuesday, 8-Jun-2010 22:51:39

o NEW: Vatic Master says: EVERY SEA CREATURE IN GULF IS BEING KILLED & NAT'L GUARD HAS ORDERS TO KILL TRESPASSERS (views: 941) NaturalWisdom -- Wednesday, 9-Jun-2010 00:58:18

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my computer is about to crash, but i took a chance, and there's more....

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   9:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent, christine (#8)

The Vatic Project http://vaticproject.blogspot.com

2010-06-09

UPDATE #4: "Knowing" Movie Knew About Oil Rig Explosion

Posted by Vatic at 07:04

Vatic Note: OK, this pretty much seals it. This is now a fact: This is a false flag for their depopulation program and that is why they are refusing to cap it off and to clean up the mess and why they are using not only the toxic disbursement, but also now there is sulfuric Acid in the air. The Satanists always, as part of their religion, must announce their plans in advance and give fair warning, and then sit back and wait until its time. That means we then contribute and are responsible for the end result as if we did it. Very clever indeed. This movie clearly shows they told us their plans and by golly it happened. Now its Guaranteed evacuation if this persists, so we truly are down to it.

[STUDY THESE ARTICLES, PRINT THEM OUT AND PASS THEM OUT TO THE SHEEPLE TO WAKE THEM UP, IT IS BEYOND TIME TO ACT, THIS IS SERIOUS WAR AGAINST US THE ZIONISTS ARE CONDUCTING, TAKE THEM WHERE EVER YOU CAN:

http://vaticproject.blogspot.com...00-07%3A00&max-results=20 ]

What every one has to decide is what to do about it. Face the reality, and decide if you really care or are ready and willing to go into the camps when and if they decide to evacuate, come to the aid of those forced into them if they resist, or simply wait passively while they do whatever they want to do. Resistance is the way to go. That means underground, and not above ground, hide your guns if they come to take you and make sure someone outside of your area knows where they are so they can retreive them for others to use. Go after their assets on land. BP has a US corp office and assets. So do the other oil companies, since they all planned it with Rumsy and Bush with Obama as the hammer. EVERYONE WATCH FOR SIGNS OF MOVEMENT UNDERGROUND BY THE SHADOW GOV. AND GO AFTER IT. SEAL THEM IN.

Remember April 19, through May 6 are the most important dates for the occult. OKC, Waco, Blow out, etc happened between those dates. There are a whole list of events in our history that occurred right around April 19 and 20 and will put them up when I find them again.

'Knowing' Movie Knew About Oil Rig Explosion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5WISUquers

ramir233 — May 10, 2010 — More than a few people have noted the Illuminati symbolism in the film "Knowing" starring Nicholas Cage. But as the video above demonstrates, there may also be predictive programming in the film in regard to the recent oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico.

Also, Notice that 666 is the first recognizable number when Cage picks up the sheet of paper.

Another inside job?

There is something odd about the number eleven too. 11.. "11 people missing."

"The entire World Trade Center event was underlined with the occultic number 11. Occultists all over the world knew exactly what had happened and who did it." Further on, "The Illuminati ended the First World War according to Albert Pike's occult plan to produce Antichrist. They deliberately ended it on the 11th hour, on the 11th day, on the 11th month. (11 x 3 = 33) The signing of the Armistice agreement was undergirded by three eleven's!"

Read more:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/...

Some other small observations I noticed:

The solar flare referenced in the movie and the bible says something similar if not exact, read here:

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!" (2 Peter 3:11)

Lastly, the obsession of numbers. God forbids sorcery such as astrology, palm readings, psychics, numerology etc. In this movie, that's what they all focused on! Numbers to tell them of future events! (Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

NOTE: You need to conclude your own beliefs as these controversies have many broad opinions.

Here's the breaking news, recorded footage from MOXNEWS,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TKzAb...

Their youtube channel is:
http://www.youtube.com/user/MoxNewsDo...

http://Infowars.com reported this as well:
http://www.infowars.com/predictive-pr...

Their youtube channel is:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJo...

Their official website:
http://www.infowars.com/

From CNN, April 28, 2010 11:13 p.m. EDT (below):

"The estimated amount of oil spilling in an underwater leak from last week's oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico has increased to 5,000 barrels a day, five times more than what was originally believed, a Coast Guard official said late Wednesday."
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/28/loui...

Oil Rig Timeline from CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/03/time...

The movie, "Knowing" directed by Alex Proyas, was released March 20, 2009. The oil rig explosion happened on April 20, 2010. That's roughly 13-14 months before it happened.

"Knowing" on imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0448011/

Tracking the oil rig in the gulf of Mexico (LIVE FEED):
www.ustream.tv/pbsnewshour

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30 Shocking Quotes About The Gulf Of Mexico Oil Spill That Reveal The Soul-Crushing Horror This Disaster Is Causing .....

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okay....where's my British-Israel article.....

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   10:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SonOfLiberty, angK, all (#7)

When the wolf really does show up, nobody is going to pay attention to the little boy screaming wolf (yet again). People never learn.

Yep.

IMO that is jones' function. Others do it but this came from infowhores. He does his part to make this false flag tactic meaningless. And like angK pointed out, that term does not even apply here.

I didn't know about the SWAT teams on rigs. Do they even have jurisdiction? I thought SWAT teams were all locals, not state or federal.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-09   10:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: angK (#5)

My reason for thinking this is that an all-out race war would trigger martial law.

Enforced by ____________ ?

It's a very big country. IMO it cant be done.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-09   10:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

The government is NOT IN CONTROL. The ones exercising all influence are the oil companies. Where is our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? I will be posting my interview with James at the forum shortly. When I called him I wanted to remain optimistic and felt people were exaggerating or simply fear mongering. After my conversation with James I can categorically say that my level of concern has risen to unprecedented levels and now I'm putting more credence to the reports I'm receiving.] -- Mel Fabregas reporting

omg, Chris, if this is all true....

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   10:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#10)

I didn't know about the SWAT teams on rigs. Do they even have jurisdiction? I thought SWAT teams were all locals, not state or federal.

I have no idea how or why they were there. I did hear Obama, directly in a speech that day, live with my own ears, state that he was sending SWAT teams to all of the rigs in the Gulf.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-09   10:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SonOfLiberty (#13) (Edited)

I bet its teleprompter was broke. Like you said, it was probably SEALS. That is their element, not SWATs. And AFAIK, the first chimp has no say in sending SWAT anywhere. They aren't under its control.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-09   10:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PSUSA (#14)

Hard to say. CBS carried it as well.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/29/national/main6444311.shtml

Mr. Obama said SWAT teams were being dispatched to the Gulf to investigate oil rigs and said his administration is now working to determine the cause of the disaster.

The president promised to deploy "every single available resource" to the area and ordered his disaster and environmental leaders to go. The Navy is sending 66,000 feet of inflatable boom and seven skimming systems, and using its bases in the region as staging areas for the operation.

Federal officials announced inspections would begin immediately of all oil rigs in the Gulf and subpoena powers would be used in the gathering investigation. But the priority was to support the oil company BP PLC in employing booms, skimmers, chemical dispersants and controlled burns to fight the oil surging from the seabed.

A quick google of "swat teams to oil rigs" brings up a whole lot of information on it.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-09   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: angK (#5)

My reason for thinking this is that an all-out race war would trigger martial law. The election of Obama has already fostered racial tensions whether we admit it or not.

There are also benefits to concentrating the population in cities if martial law was to be declared under any "state of emergency."

sounds quite plausable

christine  posted on  2010-06-09   10:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, farmfriend, abraxas, Cynicom, CadetD, Jethro Tull, HighLairEon, James Deffenbach, noone222, Pinguinite, Lod, Scrapper2, ratcat, Eric Stratton, all (#9)

Given the symbolism, which these occultists in their warped views are addicted to for whatever psychotic reasons, the chain of "coincidences", "odd occurrences", and the total blanket of secrecy which has descended over this event since day 1 that it was an intentional event looks increasingly to be likely. By whose hand remains unanswered.

I am now, and have been, trying to avoid alarmism, and in so doing my earlier piece was toned down and so is now appearing to mayhaps have been too conservative. In looking at and analyzing the events now unfolding and despite the morning sunshine now streaming in my window it seems the world is cast in a dark pall. We are now on the cusp, the dividing line between darkness and death or life and rebirth. If Armageddon is the final battle between light and dark I do believe that the battle is now joined, and most are yet unaware. This is not a battle to be fought in the field as it is not a conventional battle of hosts and tanks and other traditional implements of war but rather one fought more on the plane of the spirit. There will well be physical manifestations, and I think for some they will be devastating. However, I do not think this a battle only of the material world though. Rather it is more for control over the minds of man and woman and destiny as a people, as a nation, as a world, and as spiritual beings. The fearful will shrink and cower, the materialistic will scoff, and some will become simply numb and retreat into a haze of not looking, but the question remains how many will have courage to stand and declare for the light? Who among us will choose freedom and who will choose the dark numbness of denial and shun the light of responsibility?

I have commented before, on more than one occasion, that we live in a time wherein virtually all of the great prophetic traditions converge. That time has drawn nigh and the storm is upon us. "It is going to be a very bumpy night."

I am still looking for the time frame of September, October, November to be the period of greatest crisis. My feeble gifts tell me little more. Other than there is a hopeful note that the good shall win, and the light prevail, but at what cost is yet unknown.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   11:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA, angK, christine, wudidiz (#11)

My reason for thinking this is that an all-out race war would trigger martial law.

Enforced by ____________ ?

It's a very big country. IMO it cant be done.

Why do you think they created FEMA, put CIA offices in every Governor's office (as per Jesse Ventura), set up a coordinated control grid for every PD large and small, built concentration camps, etc., ...? The only saving grace I see is that they were forced to accelerate their timetable because too many people were waking up and becoming aware, however dimly, of the reality.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   11:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#12)

christine, i just spent all this time writing you a reply, which is now frozen with a pop-up on it. if i succeed in getting it unfrozen, i'll post it.

i don't doubt what they're saying....and i think britain ["The City"] is behind it.

it's possible they have bitten off more than they can chew. that may be why they are now hiding the animals. IF all this is true, now I know why I haven't heard anything about the endangered manatees. God is going to destroy those who are destroying the earth, and may it be soon.

Where's ol' Prince Phillip, His Royal Virus, and founder of the World Wildlife Fund, and Where's 'al-qaeda' when you need them? :}

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   11:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: wudidiz, SonOfLiberty, Original_Intent, PSUSA, christine (#6)

Max Keiser said on today's video I posted earlier that Goldman Sachs back dated their BP stock sales thus defrauding their customers. This would mean they are crooks but not that they knew the oil well was about to blow.

I understand that the Rothschilds own a lot of BP stock. Would tehy lower the value of their portfolio when they could blow a well owned by a rival firm? Note they do own a large ahare of Shell.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2010-06-09   11:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Horse (#20)

I understand that the Rothschilds own a lot of BP stock. Would tehy lower the value of their portfolio when they could blow a well owned by a rival firm?

Would a Chessmaster sacrifice a Pawn to win the World Championship?

You have to think with the data of how big they really are and what they are playing for.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   11:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent, christine, earthchild, abraxas, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, gengis gandhi, Horse, randge, wudidiz, ada, GreyLmist, farmfriend, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Googolplex, all (#21) (Edited)

I understand that the Rothschilds own a lot of BP stock. Would tehy lower the value of their portfolio when they could blow a well owned by a rival firm? Would a Chessmaster sacrifice a Pawn to win the World Championship?

You have to think with the data of how big they really are and what they are playing for.

Horse's valid question points up how our perception has been boxed.

No condescension is intended; we are all learning to see and think outside the box we have been in since the inception of the mediaMatrix.

In short, the real game being played financially FAR transcends our previous understanding of stock market, company profits and motive.

The gambling is going on above-the-radar, with no oversight and no reporting!

The total market for the derivatives gambling that is going on, exceeds by a factor of 10 OR MORE, the entire planetary GDP/GNP!

Let that sink in! I was explaining this to my brother a few days ago and the lights went on. If I have a huge bet that a company's stock is going to fall, what do I care if I own the stock? If the bet is big enough, my losses are covered and then some!

Consider: CEO's are hired by the board of a corporation, runs it fiscally into the ground, squeezing out/selling off all major assets, resulting in the corporation's stock price tanking and then leaves with a huge bonus, a pat on the back and consequently gets hired by another corporation as their next CEO. Why?

Because based on the gambling derivatives/hedge funds, SOMEONE or many someones MADE A KILLING on the lowered stock price of the company tanked in the above scenario. It is beyond hostile takeovers, it is pure rigged gambling on a huge scale. Buying up the company becomes easier when the stock price tanks and is almost an afterthought more for control than profit.

This leaves aside other motivations, such as pushing forward the Globalist's agenda; if that is factored in, and there are many clever ways to make that pay off in the long term or even in the short term, using insider hedge bets, so to speak, the nature of the game comes into focus.

When you are playing SimEarth with the media, the banks and the corporate/government complex ALL in your hands (collectively) of course you can make money from betting on ANY OUTCOME YOU CHOOSE!

Those of us inclined by our personal constitution to be honest and not to cheat others, have been blind-sided by the conversion of the financial game to the shadow lands of completely unregulated, pure gambling going on over the ruins of our real-world economies.

An analogy would be the virtual worlds where people have reaped money in the real world from transactions in the virtual world. However, the big players at the table of the world-wide casino in hedges and derivatives ARE affecting the real world in collusion, in order to make money off of disaster for the rest of us and for the natural world.

Remember that the top players have access to either their private getaways and/or own an entry pass to live within the massive underground facilities, should the ecosystem be pushed too far or the angry rabble survive in large enough numbers to be a problem.

So, reading motive of the evil-doers at the top (evil being defined as live-ing Life ass-backwards from its intent) is easier when we realize the pure betting going on out of sight, over all of our heads, by the psychopathic control-freaks playing out their game of world domination for fun and profit.

If we up our game of detecting the motives of the worshippers of money and power to include the counter-intuitive way money is being made completely decoupled from conventional profit and loss on a company-by-company basis, the picture becomes clearer: the high stakes players are all-in to the NWO, population-culling goal and are laughing (at all of us) all the way to their wholly-owned banks!


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-06-09   12:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent, christine, farmfriend (#9)

Another inside job?

There is something odd about the number eleven too. 11.. "11 people missing."

"The entire World Trade Center event was underlined with the occultic number 11. Occultists all over the world knew exactly what had happened and who did it." Further on, "The Illuminati ended the First World War according to Albert Pike's occult plan to produce Antichrist. They deliberately ended it on the 11th hour, on the 11th day, on the 11th month. (11 x 3 = 33) The signing of the Armistice agreement was undergirded by three eleven's!"

Read more:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/...

Some other small observations I noticed:

The solar flare referenced in the movie and the bible says something similar if not exact, read here:

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!" (2 Peter 3:11)

Lastly, the obsession of numbers. God forbids sorcery such as astrology, palm readings, psychics, numerology etc. In this movie, that's what they all focused on! Numbers to tell them of future events! (Deuteronomy 18:10-12)

NOTE: You need to conclude your own beliefs as these controversies have many broad opinions.

In case I don't get my window back, I believe the smoking gun to their doing 911 is HERE [note all the occult symbolism, including the references to the number 11]:

The British-Israel-World Federation

Patron: The Rt Hon The Viscount Allenby of Megiddo

The Building Race acts to Pattern

The Covenant Nations Act to Pattern In the Siege of Civilization

Michael A. Clark

A Change of Times is now Evident

During the past few weeks the world has witnessed a military action lead by the United States and Great Britain to liberate Iraq from a savage and brutal dictatorship. Students of the Kingdom Identity, understanding that the Servant People were to be the defender rather that the aggressor, may have wondered about the wisdom of the Coalition forces initiating the action. This article sets out a pattern of events as being evidence of a Divine overruling in this conflict, which may have begun the final separation of the Israel of God from the systems of mystical Babylon.

EVER since 19th March, 1994, when the Covenant Nations began their "Exodus," or separation from bondage under man made systems - defined as "The Field of Mixed Seed," - there has been a countdown taking place to when the change of times becomes evident. On 11th September, 2001 the terrorist attack on the United States made certain that this change would begin to be implemented at an early date -- that date was 19th-20th March, 2003 when the military action for the liberation of Iraq began. It came 9 years exactly, the judgment number, from the separation point for the Servant People from the Gentile systems that have been under final judgment since 1936.

The time measures between 19th March, 1994 and the 11th September, 2001 attack on the World Trade Centre (WTC) in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, was 4 x 666 (solar) days plus 29 days. This measure has the meaning of the world (4) linked to the number of gold and the Beast system (666), with the expectancy of judgment (29). Clearly 9/11 was an event of considerable prophetic import, yet in truth it could only be fully understood within the context of the Kingdom Identity. The Covenant Nations in bondage to the political, financial and religious systems of mystical Babylon, were being given a signal that their time of release and separation from man-made systems was approaching. The Apocalyptic warning signal of future judgment upon the systems of mystical Babylon became clear that fateful day.

Revelation 18 reveals judgment would come in "one hour" and the merchants and traders in their ships would be unable to approach the scene of devastation. The symbol was uniquely demonstrated in a literal, but very terrible way, to become a far more profound fulfilment of the Apocalyptic warning than could have been imagined before the event. After the twin towers of the WTC fell, within one literal hour, with the New York waterfront fulfilling the scene of shipping being unable to approach the "great city," the New York stock market was closed until reopening on the significant day of Monday 17th September, 2001.

The actual battleline date for the initiation of the war on terrorism was 16th-17th September, 2001, being 1600 days, the number of Divine judgment given in Revelation 14:20, from the beginning of Tony Blair's premiership on 1st-2nd May, 1997. The Times, London, for 17th September, 2001, said "The countdown towards America's fight-back against terror begins today." Strange to say the address of the White House in Washington is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

On Sunday evening 16th September, 2001, Tony Blair emerged from 10 Downing Street to stand before the microphones and state "We are at war with terrorism." This quotation in fact formed the main headline on The Times, London, on 17th September, 2001, being the Feast of Trumpets that year.

[17th-22nd September, 2001, was a defining point in time seen by David Davidson and Bernard Nicklin some 60 or 70 years previously in their studies of the structural symbolism of The Great Pyramid's Divine Message and of Divine Time Measures in day-period chronology; as was the date of 19th March, 1994, and the "Exodus" from "The Field of Mixed Seed."]

In the Daily Mail, London, 22nd March, 2003, the journalist Simon Heffer wrote the following about the conflict over Iraq and the significance of events subsequent to 9/11:

"Directly after the September 11th attacks on America, I wrote here that the world had changed irrevocably. What struck me then was that, after decades of drift, Western civilization had realised it faced a fundamental threat -- and was prepared to deal with it."

Both the United States and Great Britain, as the leading Covenant Nations in prestige and power today, have accepted the fact that they are facing an internal threat to their civilization, a threat which is spoken of in Deuteronomy 32:25 as being "The sword without and the terror within." In fact, during the days before and since the war of liberation of Iraq, we have witnessed mass demonstrations across the world, which have seemed to be driven by spirits possessed of another agenda. Most certainly the people have been encouraged and organized by anti-globalization groups which in effect gathered the peoples' "armies" against the body politic of the leading Covenant Nations. The words "Blaming America" were on the cover of Time magazine for 20th January, 2003, reminding us that "all [Gentile] nations" are to be gathered against the civilization, or foundation of peace, being the very meaning of the name "Jerusalem" (Zechariah 14:2).

Whatever grand strategy may be directing the United States to take offensive action over Iraq, seen from the vantage point of the Kingdom Identity, and especially when observing the chronological pattern, we need to pause before making an outright condemnation of the liberation of Iraq that has taken place. The United States, with its Abraham tanks, was fighting in the land of Ur of the Chaldees from where Abraham was given a national destiny by the Lord to rule as a great nation in the Earth (Genesis 12 & 13). This would be accomplished by military as well as spiritual and political power, to uphold right ways, or righteousness.

A greater strategy, that of a Divine overruling, appears to be confirmed at this time. Dated from 11th September, 2001, it was precisely 555 days (15 x 37 = one "hour" /The Word) to 20th March, 2003, when the military action began against Iraq. Just 21 days (3 x 7) days later, on 9th April, 2003, Baghdad fell (the same number of days to the day for the fall of France in 1940). Remarkably, we find that between 11th September, 2001 and 9th April, 2003, there were exactly 4 x 144 days, significant of the world and the Divine Order of government.

Baghdad is very near the site of ancient Babylon, while Mosul in the north is near the ancient site of Nineveh. As if to symbolise the approaching passing away of the mystical Babylonish order of things in the world today, the mobs roaming the city looted or destroyed several thousand items from the National Museum in Baghdad. These were the treasures from the cradle of ancient civilization, the site of the fabled cities of Ur, Babylon and Nineveh.

With respect to the political opposition experienced by the Coalition forces from other nations, it was France and Turkey that stood in the path of the liberation of Iraq. Their family traits are revealing in this respect. France was seeking to offset the leadership of the United States by asserting its Reuben roots as the first born son of Jacob, but only succeeded in demonstrating that their father Jacob was correct, when he declared of Reuben, that he was as "unstable as water." Then again, in the twin brother line of Esau and Jacob, it was Turkey acting to form, as descendent of Esau-Edom, who refused passage to United States forces to enter Iraq, making them take a long detour by sea to enter Iraq from the south. When Israel sought permission to pass through Edom to the Promised Land, we recall that Edom refused (Numbers 20:14-22), making them take a long detour and cross over the River Jordan.

The task of winning the peace will no doubt prove to be more difficult for the Covenant Nations than winning the war. Nevertheless, in the wider destiny, what we are seeing in Iraq is regime change, which could affect the Middle East in general, including Palestine and Jewish-Israel in the Israeli State. We note that 6th August, 2003, will be 80 years, or two periods of 40 years of trial, from 6th August, 1923, when Iraq was entrusted to Britain as a mandate.

On 14th May 1998, we passed a Jubilee period of 50 years from when the control of Britain's Mandate in Palestine passed to the Jews, who set up the misnamed State of Israel . Since 1998 there has passed 4 years, 3 years allowed by Jesus for the barren fig tree to bear fruit, plus 1 further dung year after which the tree was to be cut down (Luke 13:6-9). When the Hebrew Jubilee period of 50 years is reached, the law requires that land be returned to the original owner. Are we now seeing true Israel, represented by Ephraim-Britain and Manasseh-America, in the process of regaining a mandate for the Middle East, perhaps even including Palestine? We could be witness to the beginning of a Divine initiative for the Middle East and Palestine, which eventually will involve a great upheaval in what, until now, has been considered by the Jewish-Israel school of prophecy, as being the return of Israel to Palestine.

We should also note that 6th August, 2003, pointed to above, marks 2 x 29 years, a double period of expectancy of judgment, from 6th August, 1945, when the first atomic bomb was dropped on Japan. Six days later, on 12th August, 2003, Prime Minister Tony Blair will be 120 x 153 days -- a period of warning linked to the Elect -- from his birth on 6th May, 1953. This time measure is more significantly linked to the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II on 2nd June, 1953, as it was the 153rd day of the 153rd year of the United Kingdom. The measure of 120 x 153 days from that great spiritual event for the Covenant Nations, will expire on 8th September, 2003.

In connection with nuclear events, we should take cognizance of the 50-year period in August this year from when (Soviet) Russia exploded its first H-bomb on 12th August, 1953. It was announced by Russia on 20th August, 1953 (a significant date in the structural symbolism of The Great Pyramid) -- a moment which was described in the press as "History's turning point -- the greatest yet!" The date of 20th August, 2003, will be a Jubilee period from that turning point in history!

With regard to the terminal date of 11th-12th August, 2003, linked to the British Prime Minister, which we have referred to above, we shall at that point be 4 years, the world number, from the total eclipse of the sun on 11th August, 1999, over Britain and Europe. This event was described in page 230 of our July-September, 1999, issue of Wake Up! in the following terms:

"A shadow of darkness swept across the North Atlantic from Canada's east coast near Nova Scotia. At 65 miles wide and travelling at approximately 1630 mph it crossed the Cornish coast and St Michael's Mount at 11.11 am on the 11th August, 1999. From there it moved rapidly to the European Continent, passing over Strasbourg and the European parliament building and on to its peak over Romania, at 70 miles wide, finishing its track at sunset in Pakistan and the state of Gujarat in India.

"Of immediate significance is the fact that St Michael's Mount in Cornwall was in the path of totality as the shadow passed over south-west England. The defender of Israel is the Archangel Michael, confirmed by Daniel 12:1, and it is this Scripture which pinpoints the Age-end period of trouble and deliverance of the servant people, or 'every one that shall be found written in the book.' "

The number 11, which marks disorder, featured at the total eclipse of the sun, which is symbolic of the Throne and rule of the Lord upon Earth (Psalm 89:36). Precisely 5 x 5 months later on 11th September, 2001, the number 11 was supremely dominant in the terror attacks on the United States. There is an immense siege of civilization in the Earth at this time. Disorder is on all sides, but the Covenant Nations are acting to an overruling pattern of Divine Order.

Founded in 1919 • Registered Charity No. 208079

http://www.britishisrael.co.uk/showart.php?id=26

As I pointed out in a recent post, the world is not coming to an end, that world system was coming to an end when they crucified Christ. His resurrection ushered in HIS New World Order, one without end [Daniel 2:44/Isaiah 9:6-7].

They are trying to portray themselves as the New Jerusalem/"Throne of David" and us as "Babylon". They have it a little backwards. WE are the New Jerusalem, and they and their pals are the daughter of Babylon. Zechariah 2:7. "Babylon" in the Book of Revelation was the Old Jerusalem.

See also Jordan Maxwell, on how CorpUSA and Britain are in cahoots, and how the British-Israel-World-Federation [Rothschild/British-Israel] deigned back in the 1930's that September 11, 2001 would be the start of their little fiefdom over the whole world.

British Israel 1
British Israel World Federation Movement. | Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | ... Steps Toward British Union, a World State, and International Strife ... http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/art...ritish-israel/inde...[not full URL]

British Israel 2
In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny Magazine published articles identifying September 2001 as the target date for their "kingdom of God on earth"... http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/art...ritish-israel/brit...[not the complete URL] •

I think they are trying to recreate the Bible prophecy of the "sea becoming like the blood of a dead man," but it already happened once....around 70 AD.

Judgement From The Sanctuary - David Chilton - THE DAYS OF VENGEANCE. An Exposition of the. Book of Revelation. [preterist (past history) perspective]By, ... sea, and it became blood like that of a dead man; and every living soul in the sea died. ... www.worldwithoutend.info/bbc/books/articles/judgem... [NOT THE COMPLETE URL]

Now it's possible this is a double prophecy, and God may allow it long enough to wake His people up, because His sleeping church is familiar with the apocalyptic words of the Revelation. I think it's more likely it's all part of their trying to destroy us, but they are actually fulfilling other prophecies that show who they REALLY are, prophecies such as Micah 4:11 Now also many nations [or heathens] have gathered against you [Christian America], Who say "Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion" [or let us gloat over her].

At any rate, God said He would destroy those who are destroying the earth, so they have a slight problem.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   12:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#21)

Would a Chessmaster sacrifice a Pawn to win the World Championship?

that's a good way to put it! Besides, if you go to greatreddragon and look at who owns the oil companies, you might find Barclay's, a Rothschild group, has a controlling interest in all of them. Didn't all the oil companies raise their prices after Valdez? They're all in it together. Another point, by blowing one of their own, they might have hoped to take the suspicion off themselves for it being a deliberate act of destruction. And you're right; the oil is probably chump change compared to the money they could rake in under the "Health Care Reform" Act [see nesaranews.blogspot.com for YOUR TAXES NEXT YEAR]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   12:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: PSUSA (#4)

The false flag was not the rig explosion itself. The false flag was the WH doing nothing afterward for several weeks to insure the oil spill wrecked the tens of millions of people living on the Gulf Coast.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-06-09   12:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#17)

Given the symbolism, which these occultists in their warped views are addicted to for whatever psychotic reasons, the chain of "coincidences", "odd occurrences", and the total blanket of secrecy which has descended over this event since day 1 that it was an intentional event looks increasingly to be likely. By whose hand remains unanswered.

I am now, and have been, trying to avoid alarmism, and in so doing my earlier piece was toned down and so is now appearing to mayhaps have been too conservative. In looking at and analyzing the events now unfolding and despite the morning sunshine now streaming in my window it seems the world is cast in a dark pall. We are now on the cusp, the dividing line between darkness and death or life and rebirth. If Armageddon is the final battle between light and dark I do believe that the battle is now joined, and most are yet unaware. This is not a battle to be fought in the field as it is not a conventional battle of hosts and tanks and other traditional implements of war but rather one fought more on the plane of the spirit. There will well be physical manifestations, and I think for some they will be devastating. However, I do not think this a battle only of the material world though. Rather it is more for control over the minds of man and woman and destiny as a people, as a nation, as a world, and as spiritual beings. The fearful will shrink and cower, the materialistic will scoff, and some will become simply numb and retreat into a haze of not looking, but the question remains how many will have courage to stand and declare for the light? Who among us will choose freedom and who will choose the dark numbness of denial and shun the light of responsibility?

I have commented before, on more than one occasion, that we live in a time wherein virtually all of the great prophetic traditions converge. That time has drawn nigh and the storm is upon us. "It is going to be a very bumpy night."

I am still looking for the time frame of September, October, November to be the period of greatest crisis. My feeble gifts tell me little more. Other than there is a hopeful note that the good shall win, and the light prevail, but at what cost is yet unknown.

feeble gifts??? I've got chills!!!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   12:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PaulCJ (#25) (Edited)

The false flag was not the rig explosion itself. The false flag was the WH doing nothing afterward for several weeks to insure the oil spill wrecked the tens of millions of people living on the Gulf Coast.

or maybe the false flag was them intending to blame it on God, judging "Babylon" by the hand of Dan .

The Lost Tribe of Dan
Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.... watch.pair.com/dan.html

DEATH OF THE PHOENIX: FINAL ACT FOR THE USA

".... The multitude of Judeo-Masonic symbols on the currency of the United States is like the handwriting on the wall which forecasts the downfall of another great superpower. However, these symbols also reveal that the sacrifice of the United States of America by her own leaders was preordained from the time of the American Revolution, and probably well before. The Judeo-Freemasons also understood that the transition into their New World Order would not be a smooth process, and that they would need to attribute the whole messy business (“Ordo ab Chao”) to God Almighty, lest Americans discover the true perpetrators. .....

To justify the destruction of the USA, the Judeo-Freemasons must now portray America as “Babylon the Great” collapsing under the wrath of God, per Revelation 18. Surely, “Ichabod,” which means “the glory has departed,” could apply the United States in its degenerate condition today, yet the propagandists never mention that the Jewish-owned and controlled entertainment media has led the United States down the broad road to moral destruction.

Moreover, the Judeo-Masonic cabal must inflame the people of the world against Americans so that when their beloved country falls, the world will rejoice, never suspecting the truth. Which is why the ubiquitous propaganda mills on the Internet continuously revile the USA as “Babylon” and even gloat over its imminent demise. ......" [Micah 4:13!]

watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   12:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#27)

Isaiah 54:15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.

bible.cc/isaiah/54-15.htm

Galatins 3:29.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   13:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#27)

or maybe the false flag was them intending to blame it on God, judging "Babylon" by the hand of Dan .

Unless you are going to post sentences that are logical and make sense, don't reply to me.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-06-09   13:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HighLairEon (#22)

When you are playing SimEarth with the media, the banks and the corporate/government complex ALL in your hands (collectively) of course you can make money from betting on ANY OUTCOME YOU CHOOSE!

The operative word there is "CHOOSE". If you already have set up the game to a predetermined outcome it is easy to win all the markers because the winning "bet" is part of the predetermined sequence of events including the conclusion. When you are a psychotic playing for the control of the entire planet and everything it contains then the sacrifice of one company (read "Pawn") is just that - tiny when put into the correct frame. When you recognize this and then step back - like an impressionist painting the picture clarifies considerably.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   13:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PaulCJ (#25) (Edited)

The false flag was not the rig explosion itself. The false flag was the WH doing nothing afterward for several weeks to insure the oil spill wrecked the tens of millions of people living on the Gulf Coast.

But that is not what "false flag" means. Look it up. This shows the damage that jones et al and his followers are doing. They are using terms that do not apply. Not that I include you in that group. I don't know what you think of him and those like him. But the term starts to get usage because of how jones and others use it.

9/11 was most likely a false flag. israhell and dual citizen kikes were behind that, imo.

What you describe goes from typical .gov incompetence all the way up to high treason. But it was a domestic deal, until proven otherwise.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-09   13:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#26)

feeble gifts??? I've got chills!!!

Me too. But if I have a burden to bear it is to be required to look, to see, and communicate what I have seen. I make no other claim.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-09   13:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PaulCJ (#29) (Edited)

The "New" World Order is said to be run by the Merovingian bloodline, who are said to be of the Tribe of Dan, who are said to have protected their bloodline since God cast them and their offending brethren out of Israel. They and the tribe of Ephraim [one of the tribes the British Monarchy claims to be from] are not sealed by God in Revelation 7. God has a message for them in Amos 8:14. Their [and every one else's] only hope is in Christ. They have spent thousands of years, so the story goes, trying to get on top. The nwo is trying to recreate Bible prophecy to benefit themselves as the ones who will rule the world for "a thousand years", in the name of Christ, except that their god is really Lucifer.

I edited my answer before I saw yours. IF you want to know any more, ask. Otherwise, I will never reply to you again.

Cheers.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-09   13:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent, all (#30) (Edited)

The operative word there is "CHOOSE". If you already have set up the game to a predetermined outcome it is easy to win all the markers because the winning "bet" is part of the predetermined sequence of events including the conclusion. When you are a psychotic playing for the control of the entire planet and everything it contains then the sacrifice of one company (read "Pawn") is just that - tiny when put into the correct frame. When you recognize this and then step back - like an impressionist painting the picture clarifies considerably.

All correct and well said.

I was going one step further however in claiming that the pawn "sacrifice" was not even that! These psychopaths have made every step of the way palatable and gratifying. What a game, if you can keep it going....

The behind the scenes betting makes every step of the way toward the long term goal profitable!

Like supplying arms to both sides of every war, like financing both sides in every war, like sucking funds from the people at every stage, in every transaction:

1) prices artificially inflated (not to mention technology suppression that creates the "need" for the consumable in the first place!),

2) taxes at every level, taxes stacked on top of already taxed transactions, then taxes on anything you have left over from playing the rigged game (the big players never pay taxes on that at all)

3) and finally looting the treasure and economy-crashing on your way out.

Once again, the main impediments to seeing this pattern are:

-the inability to identify with psychopathic thinking processes

-the reluctance to realize that we've been had, despite our ego's insistence that we are playing the game well

And before the accusation of slipper slope fallacy is raised, the purpose of seeing the dragon in its naked arrogance is NOT to cry, "game over Man!" and quit in premature despair.

It is NOT to profit (like some corrupted pundits) from stampeding more suckers over the cliff of the rigged game, getting them to ante up their last nickel for the big players to clean up.

The purpose of seeing is to see our way forward, to focus on self-sufficiency as much as possible but mainly to join and network, to gather the forces of planetary awakening together, metaphorically hand them the "glasses" to see the invaders (as in the film They Live) and stop wasting time!

Start alternative economies locally and join them together into a larger network, that will handle and buffer the transition from the NWO Gamer's system reset into a sustainable system, with justice and liberty for all!


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-06-09   13:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PSUSA (#31)

What you describe goes from typical .gov incompetence all the way up to high treason. But it was a domestic deal, until proven otherwise.

It is not incompetence if it is intentionally done. Instead it is 'willful negligence'.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-06-09   14:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PaulCJ (#35)

It is not incompetence if it is intentionally done. Instead it is 'willful negligence'.

True. That is why I used a sliding scale, to include every possibility. But that still doesn't make it a false flag.

But just like the OKC and 9/11, they will use it to their advantage. Or try to.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-09   14:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#18)

My reason for thinking this is that an all-out race war would trigger martial law. Enforced by ____________ ?

It's a very big country. IMO it cant be done.

Why do you think they created FEMA, put CIA offices in every Governor's office (as per Jesse Ventura), set up a coordinated control grid for every PD large and small, built concentration camps, etc., ...? The only saving grace I see is that they were forced to accelerate their timetable because too many people were waking up and becoming aware, however dimly, of the reality

Well I know why they created FEMA and it wasn't to handle emergencies like Katrina or the Oil Rig Explosion in the Gulf.

I'm sorry for another long post, however:

On June 3, 1994, President Clinton signed Executive Order #12919 gathering together into a single document all the power and authority of a multitude of Executive Orders issued by preceding presidents from John Kennedy on. Recent examination of this Executive Order has brought to light that the consolidation of previous presidential orders delivers unprecedented authority into the hands of the Chief Executive that exceed those powers granted him under the U.S. Constitution.

Incorporated under the aegis of President Clinton’s EO #12919 are powers originally claimed by President Kennedy in a series of Executive Orders signed into “law” in February of 1962 which, if invoked, would virtually suspend the greater portion of liberties guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

In Section 3 of Kennedy’s original EO #10995 entitled “ASSIGNING TELECOM- MUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT FUNC-TIONS” there is the vague statement: “Such authority shall include the power to amend, modify, or revoke frequency assignments.” Innocuous as this sounds, it embodies the power of the Chief Executive in time of “national emergency” to seize control of all radio and other telecommunications.

On the same day that President Kennedy signed EO #10995, he also gave birth to four successive Orders that Clinton included in his EO containing provisions to disable constitutional rights. Executive Order #10997 empowers the Secretary of the Interior to seize all energy production facilities— specifically, “electrical power”, “petroleum”, “gas”, “solid fuels”, and “minerals”. Section 3, subsection (d) of that order, entitled “ Claimancy” states:

“Prepare plans to claim materials, manpower, equipment, supplies and services needed in support of assigned responsibilities and other essential functions of the Department...to insure availability of such resources in an emergency.” Note the word “claim” in reference to “materials, manpower, equipment, supplies, and services”. The legal definition, as supplied by Black’s Law Dictionary is: “To demand as one’s own or as one’s right; means by or through which claimant obtains possession or enjoyment of a privilege or thing. Demand for money or property as of a right....” This means that the government may, upon declaration of a state of local or national emergency, seize any of the above, private or otherwise, including “manpower”.

As to what constitutes a national emergency, again Black’s definition is quite revealing: “A state of national crisis; a situation demanding immediate and extraordinary national or federal action. Congress has made little or no distinction between a “state of national emergency” and a “state of war”. Brown v. Bernstein, D.C.Pa., 49 F.Supp. 728, 732.

EO #10998: places all food resources under authority of the Secretary of Agriculture.

EO #10999: invests the Secretary of Commerce with control over all means of transportation, public and private.

EO #11000: provides for the establishment of manpower resources at the discretion of the Secretary of Labor, with the authority to “claim” services (labor) and involuntary relocation of workers.

Collateral authority for this conscription of labor is given in Title 50 app. United States Code, Section 2153 “WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE” under the section addressing civilian disposition entitled, “DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT OF 1950” in which is set forth that civilian personnel may be assigned work without regard to payment or reimbursement.

It is important to note that, according to the War And Emergency Powers Act, the United States has legally been under a state of national emergency since its enactment in 1933. It has never been repealed, thus leaving the president with instant powers to suspend the Constitution.

Most legal scholars and legislators who have studied the matter concur that the War And Emergency Powers Act has, in reality, already suspended the Constitution since the moment the act was signed into law by President Roosevelt. The actual suspension of those constitutional rights awaits only the impetus of a national emergency requiring it.

In 1933 a U.S. Congressman entered the following statement into the Congressional Record:

“I think of all the damnable heresies that have ever been suggested in connection with the Constitution, the doctrine of emergency is the worst. It means that when Congress declares an emergency, there is no Constitution. This means its death. It is the very doctrine that the German chancellor is invoking today in the dying hours of the parliamentary body of the German republic, namely, that because of an emergency, it should grant to the German chancellor absolute power to pass any law, even though the law contradicts the Constitution of the German republic. Chancellor Hitler is at least frank about it. We pay the Constitution lipservice, but the result is the same—the Constitution Of The United States, as a restraining influence in keeping the federal government within the carefully prescribed channels of power, is moribund, if not dead.”

The introduction to Senate Report 93-549, entered into the Congressional Record forty years later, in 1973, states: “A majority of the people of the United States have lived all their lives under emergency rule.... For 40 years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency.... And, in the United States, actions taken by the government in times of great crisis have from, at least, the Civil War, in important ways shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency.” Following the Introduction, the report’s opening statement goes on to say:

“Since March the 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency.... This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal constitutional processes. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.”

Not overlooked by those drafting the Constitution was the possible need to address national emergencies. The document contains certain provisions indicating that its signatories conceived of the possibility that some guarantees of personal liberties may, in the national interest, require suspension. Article 1, Section 9 states:

“The privileges of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion [an internal occurrence] or invasion [external] the public safety require it.”

This grants the citizen the freedom from imprisonment or detention without due process. The proviso “unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety require it” indicates the necessity to provide for some contingencies that may also carry with them the possibility for abuse. No document of liberty, however, could possibly proscribe all potential for misuse of those liberties without actually eliminating them in the process.

It has been said that Communism is nothing more than democracy with all potential for abuse legislated out.

As a result of the Executive Orders listed above, in concert with the War And Emergency Powers Act, there exists within the United States a government within a government. It is hidden, semi-covert in nature, and does not recognize the U.S.

Constitution or its constraints. It functions autonomously as a form of totalitarian regime in suspended animation, awaiting its time of activation. It is a government driven by presidential Executive Orders to be executed by federal agencies run by non-elected officials.

Executive Orders amount to ready-wired buttons by which the president can suspend constitutional rights at any moment he determines that a “national emergency” exists. The great problem inherent is that no binding legal definition exists as to what constitutes a “national emergency”. That definition lies entirely with the Chief Executive. When he declares a state of emergency, the aforementioned documents can be used to activate whatever federal agency is most suited to address the emergency. Those agencies include, but are not limited to, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF), the FBI, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

Because this nation is under a continual state of emergency due to the War And Emergency Powers Act, and the Constitution granting somewhat elastic powers of emergency in “cases of rebellion or invasion”, the president can circumvent such fundamental protections as the Posse Comatatus Act which forbids the use of the military against U.S. citizens.

This slow-motion decay of constitutional rights was not unforeseen by the Founding Fathers. In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, James Madison once wrote: “I believe there are more instances of abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations....”

The Constitution Of The United States Of America, once the hub of American law and freedoms, has been moved to the position of the hub cap. It has become merely an ornamental relic that serves no real function other than that of making the American people feel as if the document still matters to those who govern. It appears that the modern electorate chooses their leaders for the same purpose that they attend a magic show. Their actual desire seems to be that the performer deceive them.

“The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their money; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?”

angK  posted on  2010-06-09   23:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: angK (#37)

No need to apologize for the length. It was well written and an interesting read.

Of course the one fly is that were the Constitution actually followed as written there is no authority granted the Executive to legislate. That is reserved to the Congress and Congress alone. Therefore all Executive Orders, formally, have no legal effect, power, or authority outside of the Executive. Neither does Congress have the authority to amend the Constitution which is in effect what the War And Emergency Powers Act does.

However, we have a criminal government with a lot of guns, and a lot of the Sucker Class has no clue as to what is in the Constitution or how important it is to them and theirs.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-10   0:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: angK (#37)

As a result of the Executive Orders listed above, in concert with the War And Emergency Powers Act, there exists within the United States a government within a government. It is hidden, semi-covert in nature, and does not recognize the U.S.

Constitution or its constraints. It functions autonomously as a form of totalitarian regime in suspended animation, awaiting its time of activation. It is a government driven by presidential Executive Orders to be executed by federal agencies run by non-elected officials.

there it is in a nutshell...

christine  posted on  2010-06-10   0:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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