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Title: Mexico Anger High As US Border Patrol Kills Teen
Source: Associated Press
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Published: Jun 9, 2010
Author: Olivia Torres and Christopher Sherman
Post Date: 2010-06-09 15:43:05 by LACUMO
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Views: 265
Comments: 20

Mexico anger high as US Border Patrol kills teen By OLIVIA TORRES and CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN Associated Press Writers The Associated Press Wednesday, June 9, 2010 6:29 AM EDT

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.

"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.

Preliminary reports on the incident indicated that U.S. officers on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people," Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said Tuesday.

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The shooting happened beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, and late Tuesday night a banner appeared on the bridge that said in English: "U.S. Border Patrol we worry about the violence in Mex and murders and now you. Viva Mexico!"

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

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If this happened more often maybe those illegal wetbacks would stay the hell at home. The agent was put on administrative leave. He should be given two guns, a raise, and put back on the border immediately.

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#1. To: LACUMO (#0)

..."reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico,"...

The throwing of large stones is deadly force and a firearm is a reasonable response to it.

I'm sorry that a 15 yr old caught a bullet, but one shouldn't be surprised that he died. This is what usually happens when you bring stones to a gunfight.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-09   16:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: LACUMO (#0)

Mexico Anger High As US Border Patrol Kills Teen

Tragic in one sense ... but too fucking bad in another !

YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-09   16:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: LACUMO (#0)

Thousands of American citizens are killed, maimed or kidnapped by Mexicans every year!!

Are they still claiming that 14 year olds are coming into the US to WORK? Last I checked there are NO JOBS for 14 year olds unless they are employed by the drug cartels.........

The age is sad.....but where were padre y madre? To resolve such a tragedy from happening again--keep Mexican citizens IN MEXICO.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-09   16:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#1)

"I'm sorry that a 15 yr old caught a bullet, but one shouldn't be surprised that he died. This is what usually happens when you bring stones to a gunfight."

Maybe 15 y.o. but already had a lifetime of felony experience. Not hearing a lot on that, but Fox had it earlier today.

Now the important stuff: That was good shooting!!

Was the Target moving? That would require good Lead practice, like for quail, ducks, rabbits.

Did the BP agent go for a body shot? Head shot?

What ammo and pistol was he using?

Americans Want to Know!

ndcorup  posted on  2010-06-09   18:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: LACUMO (#0)

""Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez."

Let's see, "two-room adobe house".

Must have been a hundred, two hundred "mourners" there! Take a LOT of Tequila for a "wake" like that, if you're really sad and mourning.

ndcorup  posted on  2010-06-09   18:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#2)

"Tragic in one sense ... but too fucking bad in another ! "

Really a tragic day in Mexico, huh?

ndcorup  posted on  2010-06-09   18:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: LACUMO (#0)

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement

I'm certainly not in favour of illegal immigration, but this puts me in mind of the Israelis shooting and killing a disproportionate number of stone throwing Palistinians and calling it self defence.

Speaking of defence. If there was a proper wall or fence at the border this type of incident would not happen.

What have Mexican Migrants rights to do with this case? Did the kid wrap a Visa around a rock and throw it at the Officer?

This whole story smells fishy to me.

angK  posted on  2010-06-10   4:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ndcorup (#6)

Really a tragic day in Mexico, huh?

The tragedy as I see it is created by the PTB and ends up killing innocents when propaganda and the mirage of financial success is acted upon in a general sense by the masses.

The border is being violated because the PTB on both sides of it are opposed to its existence. The lack of work opportunities on one side of the border and the lack of protection against invasion on the other makes for a situation dangerous to all concerned ... that could and should be diffused by the (so- called) PTB in authority.

It becomes more apparent to me every day that those entrusted with power have no intention of doing anything about the many crisis facing Ameica. Truth is, they've created the crisis and stand ready to attack any group that tries to solve them.

YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-10   5:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: LACUMO, HOUNDDAWG (#0)

After circulating on the internet for years this pic becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy:

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-06-10   5:15:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: angK (#7)

What have Mexican Migrants rights to do with this case?

The correct word is illegal immigrants, and if one breaks into out nation with a group, he should realize the potential consequences.

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   6:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: LACUMO (#0)

i hadn't heard about the stun gun death. details of that case should be worthy of scrutiny. in this case, maybe it will teach them that throwing rocks at cops, or any armed person, especially with no cover, can get you killed. not a smart move.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-10   10:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: LACUMO (#0)

Damn them! Damn them! sobbed Rosario....

Rosario will become the next 'Machete', female version. standing on the mountaintop ready for battle gainst the evil 'gringo'. i can see the movie trailer now.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-10   10:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#10)

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FBI: Mexicans chased away US agents after shooting
By CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN and OLIVIA TORRES
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AP
posted: 2 HOURS 4 MINUTES AGO
 
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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -Pointing their rifles, Mexican security forces chased away U.S. authorities investigating the shooting of a 15-year-old Mexican by a U.S. Border Patrol agent on the banks of the Rio Grande, the FBI and witnesses told The Associated Press on Wednesday.
The killing of the Mexican by U.S. authorities the second in less than two weeks has exposed the distrust between the two countries that lies just below the surface, and has enraged Mexicans who see the death of the boy on Mexican soil as an act of murder.
Mexico's government says the number of Mexicans injured by U.S. immigration authorities has increased this year.
Shortly after the boy was shot, Mexican soldiers arrived at the scene and pointed their guns at the Border Patrol agents across the riverbank while bystanders screamed insults and hurled rocks and firecrackers, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said. She said the agents were forced to withdraw.
"It pretty quickly got very intense over on the Mexican side," she said, adding that FBI agents showed up later and resumed the investigation, even as Mexican authorities pointed guns at them from across the river.
A relative of the dead boy who had been playing with him told the AP that the Mexicans who he described as federal police, not soldiers pointed their guns only when the Americans waded into the mud in an apparent attempt to cross into Mexico.
The Mexican authorities accused the Americans of trying to recover evidence from Mexican soil and threatened to kill them if they crossed the border, prompting both sides to draw their guns, said the 16-year-old boy who asked not to be further identified for fear of reprisal.
The confrontation occurred Monday night over the body of Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, who died of his wounds beside the column of a railroad bridge connecting Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, and El Paso, Texas.
Each government has made veiled accusations suggesting misconduct on the part of the other's law enforcement agents.
Hernandez was found 20 feet (six meters) into Mexico, and an autopsy revealed that the fatal shot was fired at a relatively close range, according to Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state attorney general's office. Mexican authorities said a .40 caliber shell casing was found near the body, suggesting that the Border Patrol agent might have crossed into Mexico to shoot the boy.
That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side and could open the agent to a Mexican homicide prosecution.
A U.S. official close to the investigation told the AP that authorities have a video showing that the Border Patrol agent did not cross into Mexico. In fact, the official said, the video shows what appear to be members of Mexican law enforcement crossing onto the U.S. side, picking something up and returning to Mexico. The official was not cleared to speak about the video and spoke only on condition of anonymity.
Alejandro Pariente, Chihuahua state's regional deputy attorney general, said the U.S. Border Patrol has given him video which he is reviewing. He declined to describe it except to say that it has sped up the investigation.
The two killings have provoked anger in Mexico like no other recent controversy surrounding immigration, including Arizona's new law making it a state crime to be an illegal immigrant and President Barack Obama's decision to send the National Guard to the border.
Although many Mexicans were unhappy with both initiatives, popular and official reaction had been subdued, in contrast to street protests seen in previous years when the U.S. has cracked down on the border. Many Mexicans have since given up hope for a quick solution to the immigration problem, while other issues including growing drug violence have taken center stage in relations between the two countries.
That has started to change with the back-to-back deaths of two Mexicans at the border: the teenager killed Monday, and migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 42, who died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico.
Anastasio Hernandez, who had lived in the U.S. since he was 14, was buried in San Diego on Wednesday.
Among those at the funeral was Humberto Navarrete, who said he was walking across the pedestrian bridge near Tijuana when he witnessed the confrontation and started recording it with his cell phone. In the blurry video, a man can be heard crying and yelling, "Help me! Help me please!"
San Diego police detective Kevin Rooney said he is trying to reach Navarrete to see the footage and interview him for his investigation into the case.
Mexican news media were filled with images of the 15-year-old's bloody body and his grieving relatives. One tabloid ran a large photograph on its cover, with the banner headline "Gringaderas," salty slang that roughly translates as "things Americans do."
Mexican President Felipe Calderon pledged to "use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants," and his foreign secretary, Patricia Espinosa, said Mexico wasn't taking the Americans' word that the Border Patrol agent had been defending himself from rock-throwers when he opened fire. (Keep them on your side of the effen border and this wouldn't happen.)
Chihuahua state Gov. Jose Reyes Baeza blamed the two killings on racism fueled by Arizona's law.
"We believe that this killing, the second in recent days in the border between the two countries, is due to xenophobia and racism, derived from the approval of Arizona's anti-immigration law," Reyes said.
Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over. However, two killings in such a short period is rare.
Meanwhile, the Border Patrol released statistics showing that assaults on agents along the border between El Paso, Texas, and Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, were on pace to far exceed totals in the previous four years. (But it is supposed to be the safest job on earth.)
In the past seven months, Border Patrol agents in the El Paso sector have been assaulted 33 times, compared with 39 times in the entire previous year. Twenty-nine of those incidents were rock-throwing, compared to 31 such incidents in all of fiscal 2009.
That's what happened Monday night, when suspected illegal immigrants who ran back to Mexico began throwing rocks at Border Patrol agents detaining other immigrants, Simmons said.
At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside a suspected illegal immigrant whom he was holding prone on the ground, Simmons said. The agent told the rock throwers to stop, then fired his weapon several times, hitting the boy, she said. The FBI is leading the investigation because it involves an assault on a federal officer.
The agent was not injured, Simmons said.
T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and capable of causing serious injury.
"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.
Mexicans ridiculed that stance.
"Let's say that Anastasio and Sergio Adrian attacked the border agents, one with his fists and the other with rocks," columnist Manuel Jauregui wrote in the newspaper Reforma. "Does that mean that killing them was the only valid option?" (Their intent was to kill BP officers. The officers have every right to protect themselves. You don't want to be shot, DO NOT ATTACK THE AGENTS.)
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Easy way to fix this is to revoke NAFTA and shut the GD border down. You are either an American or you are a Mexican. I no longer believe you can be both. I am sick of that failed state pulling this $hit. They initiate the confrontation and scream bloody murder when one of them is shot for trying to kill a Law enforcement agent trying to do his job on the US SIDE OF THE FREAKING BORDER.
When do we push back and tell the Mexican Government to get their people under control? I know 2012.
'The gene pool could use a little chlorine.'
 
We will fight you until hell freezes over.....and then we will fight you on ice.

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Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   10:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

this had better not become another Ramos/Campion situation.

christine  posted on  2010-06-10   10:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

That backfired real badly on Bush. Let Obama try.

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-10   10:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

revoke NAFTA

interesting search on wikipedia would be to read about the Zapatistas in Mexico. they led, and still are to a certain degree, an armed rebellion against conditions caused directly by NAFTA which harm mexicans, particularly rural farmers in chiapas. got to give props to the zapatistas.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-10   10:55:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#14)

interestingly both the killings referenced here were caught on video. that is good, and should diffuse the controversy. im gonna have to find the cell phone video of the San Isydro taze murder. if you find it, post it. i have been to that pedestrian crossing many times & am interested in the details of that case. particularly because the crossing seems very orderly and uneventful, both walking and driving.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-10   11:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: LACUMO (#0)

Don't throw rocks at people, especially when they have guns.

The more Mexicans killed at border crossings, the fewer who will try to cross.

For it is not the wolf or any of the other beasts that would join the contest in any noble danger, but rather a good man. — Aristotle, Politics, Book IIX

Turtle  posted on  2010-06-10   11:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#14)

this had better not become another Ramos/Campion situation.

This had better not become another Israeli/Gaza situation. That's why I smell something fishy with this story. Of course, I see a Zionist under every rock, BUT!!!!! Kids throwing rocks from the stinking, hell-hole Mexico has become. Mexicans believing that America stole their land. Border Control Agents responding with excessive force and claiming that they have to defend themselves!

All that's missing - "AMERICA ATTACKS MEXICO! BOMBS HELPLESS CIVILIANS WITH WHITE PHOSPHOROUS!

Egads! I say. There are "agent provocteurs" in Mexico, stirring up the hornets nest.

angK  posted on  2010-06-15   12:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: LACUMO, all (#0)

DRUG CARTELS CONTROL AZ...........

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-15   12:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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