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Title: Fatal Mexican border shooting sparks armed stand-off on the Rio Grande - Threatens Full-Scale Int'l Incident
Source: TimesOnline
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne ... nd_americas/article7147208.ece
Published: Jun 11, 2010
Author: TimesOnline
Post Date: 2010-06-11 10:07:24 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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Keywords: SB1070
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Comments: 11

Fatal Mexican border shooting sparks armed stand-off on the Rio Grande

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An armed confrontation between Mexican soldiers and US Border Patrol agents was threatening to create a full-scale diplomatic incident last night.

The stand-off on the banks of the Rio Grande took place on Monday after a Mexican teenager was shot dead by US officials. The FBI, who have begun an investigation into the shooting, said that Border Patrol agents were chased away from the scene by Mexican officials pointing their rifles at them across the river.

The second fatal shooting in two weeks came after President Obama’s pledge to “secure the border” by sending up to 1,200 additional troops to the frontier. The White House’s attempt to increase security was thought to be part of a long-term plan to win bipartisan support for immigration reform. A sharp rise in violence on the border, however, may leave the President with a revolt from the liberal wing of his party, who claim that the human cost of increased security is too high. Mexico’s Foreign Relations Department said that the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by US immigration authorities has risen from 5 in 2008 to 17 so far this year.

Details of the armed confrontation between the countries emerged yesterday, a few hours after the funeral of Sergio Adrian Hernandez Heureka, 15, in Ciudad Juárez. His mother, Maria Guadalupe Heureka, said that he was going to borrow money for school supplies when he was shot.

Mexico has sent a complaint to Washington over the shooting, which US officials said was self-defence. The FBI said that Mr Hernandez was with a group of illegal immigrants trying to sneak into El Paso, Texas across the dry riverbed. Two of them were detained and US officials said that the teenager began to throw rocks.

Mexican security forces arrived to find the dead teenager. A 16-year-old relative said that the Mexicans then pointed their guns when US officials waded into the mud in an apparent attempt to cross into Mexico.

The soldiers accused the Americans of trying to recover evidence from Mexican soil and threatened to kill them if they crossed the border, prompting both sides to draw their guns, the relative said.

Andrea Simmons, an FBI spokeswoman, said: “It pretty quickly got very intense over on the Mexican side.” She added that FBI agents later resumed the investigation with the Mexican authorities still pointing guns at them from across the river.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

What we should be doing right now, is militarizing our border, and shooting invaders on sight. Killing drug traffickers, and human traffickers would stop a lot of the bullshit, and if the military won't do it, the government won't do it, then it's the people who must.

The people are supposed to be the government of this country, and not servants of the state who are governed unfairly.

The weakness we have shown has only encouraged more of this aggression from Mexico. It's time to start rounding the illegals up, and sending them home. We should also be viewing any and all illegal immigration as an act of war.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-06-11   10:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-11   10:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Eric Stratton, Itistoolate, Christine, (#1) (Edited)

Russia Today writes:

An armed standoff at the US-Mexico border near El Paso, Texas has left a 14-year old Mexican teenager dead.


Sergio Hernandez Huereca was shot to death from across the Rio Grande River while in Juarez, Mexico by a US Border Patrol agent.

Recent deaths at the border have heightened tensions in US-Mexico relations.

“Right now there is this tension; there is this sense of violence, institutional violence. I would say people are afraid, but also people are extremely upset,” said Fernando Garcia, a representative from the Border Network for Human Rights in El Paso, Texas.

This is the second case in the past two weeks in which a Mexican national has died at the hands of US Border Patrol Agents, and there have been about 17 cases of Mexicans shot or injured by agents thus far in 2010 alone, said Garcia.

The armed standoff that followed between US Border Patrol agents and members of the Mexican military at the border ended without the use of armed fire between the two groups. Garcia said that tensions are indeed increasing, but that he did not expect an international conflict to erupt.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-11   10:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Fatal Mexican border shooting sparks armed stand-off

It's not an "armed stand-off", it's the USA deciding not to blow those mexicons into burrito heaven.

Turd-world mexico needs to bow down and acknowledge our superiority and beg our forgiveness (I threw that in to piss-off anybody trolling on the internet)

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-06-11   10:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

If we invaded Mexico we'd roll over the place in two days.

For it is not the wolf or any of the other beasts that would join the contest in any noble danger, but rather a good man. — Aristotle, Politics, Book IIX

Turtle  posted on  2010-06-11   11:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#5)

If we invaded Mexico we'd roll over the place in two days.

You certainly seem to be giving the Mexican military a lot of credit here.

You, me and ten random guys from the nearest biker bar have more arms and military competence than the lot of the Mexican military combined.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-11   11:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SonOfLiberty (#6)

You certainly seem to be giving the Mexican military a lot of credit here.

"Mexican rifle for sale. Never fired, only dropped once."

For it is not the wolf or any of the other beasts that would join the contest in any noble danger, but rather a good man. — Aristotle, Politics, Book IIX

Turtle  posted on  2010-06-11   11:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Eric Stratton, Itistoolate, Christine, X-15, Turtle, SonOfLiberty (#3)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-11   12:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#8)

I truly hate the government for what it has become. It's a cesspool of failure, and failures creating failure from within. They want to destroy this country so badly that the only thing they haven't done is nuke every major city.

They want this country on its knees sucking the cock of the UN. The question is why? Why do these sickening traitors want to destroy the ONLY country that has ever been free? We used to have a free country. Then a bunch of traitors turned every American into a slave to the state in 1913.

We could be free again, but so many people are dependent on a system that creates slavery, that they are unwilling to try freedom at all.

America, what a fucking joke we've become.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-06-11   15:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9) (Edited)

An odd thing I've noticed in studying history is that every nation ever conceived always goes 100% against its stated goals within a generation or two of its founding. We took a little longer, but not by much.

Maybe the next time, we need to establish a nation with the preamble:

"We the despised and oppressed establish this nation to allow police to club us with impunity, invade foreign nations without regard or care, and to squash all concepts of human liberty".

I figure, within a generation of a nation with that establishment clause we'll have a perfect liberty utopia on our hands!

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-11   15:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Fatal Mexican border shooting sparks armed stand-off on the Rio Grande - Threatens Full-Scale Int'l Incident

Good. While I think it sad this poor young man lost his life in the commission of a crime what he was doing was wrong. This "stand-off" will have the beneficial affect of slowing down the flow of illegals.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-11   15:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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