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Title: Oil Volcano Pressure Too Strong For Containment
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm
Published: Jun 09, 2010
Author: Dr. James P. Wickstrom
Post Date: 2010-06-13 06:49:38 by Ada
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It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control. What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the Obama administration. They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max.. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all. Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below. The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away. Should what the scientists who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and everything on it. You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the Obama administration and BP are trying to shut up. Please share with as many as you can. --Dr. James P. Wickstrom http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/05/05/learning/oilslickLN/oilslickLN-blogSpan.jpg SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day. The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself. As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure. The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months. The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of. SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc. The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize. This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more. The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor. The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole. Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years. (End of scientists information release.) From Tom Buyea FL News Service Comment Joseph Fasciani 6-9-10 Jeff - As I wrote in the PS and Comment to another article, HS physics tells us that a liquid cannot be compressed. Period. Perhaps this statement you posted, http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm, will help the wake-up call. As he points out: The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize. If HS sheeple had elementary physics, chemistry, biology, botany, and zoology BEFORE leaving HS, the MSM could not hood wink so many so often. -Joseph Comment Robert Morningstar FYI...Jeff Rense is right... Robert M* To: Ted O. Subject: update on the oil spill Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:30:22 -0500 Hi, Ted: You probably will not be surprised to learn that the situation is much worse than the mainstream media are reporting. We have a geyser of lies from BP and the WH. Some friends have kept track of the situation. One is a retired troubleshooter for big oil and another is a very bright physicist who is working with other scientists to develop some strategies for coping with the spill. It now appears that degradation of the sea floor and well casing may soon allow the pressure of the effluent to spit out whatever is still blocking the flow (probably pieces of the casing) and push the blowout preventer aside. If that happens there will be a dramatic increase in the flow. BP has quietly advanced the completion date for a relief well to Christmas. It is not clear that a relief well will actually be able to stop the spill. The relief well has to intercept the bore of the wild well at a place where the casing has integrity, and no one knows whether that place might be or even if it exists. By August enough oil may have been released to pose a serious threat to life in the Atlantic Ocean. There is no way to keep it out of deep currents that will carry it everywhere. Today someone posted a disturbing forecast on rense.com. http://rense.com/general91/oilor.htm I sent it to the physicist, hoping he would say it was exaggeraged. He replied: "I read Rense.com also. "I already sent the article out to our "group" for their opinion. Two of the best geologists and oil-well experts in the country are in our little klatsch. It was their opinion that no BOP in existence would have contained the overpressure. From day one I was arguing that the pipes were being eroded. I think the quoted pressures are off by a factor of 10, but even 7000 psi is nothing to sneeze at. Remember my worry of "fracking" and steam formation? Now people can get it from both ends of the horse. Yes I believe the website is quite credible. "Let me scare you even more. Fracking can proceed to where many of the so-called oil wells are joined, since there is only one really big deposit underlying the entire GoM shelf. Yep, all the way to your neck of the woods. All the platforms are really sucking teats from a single sow. A chain reaction is possible, eroding all the walls, going down to as far as Venezuela as a worst-case scenario. And remember, that South American deposit extends all the way, nearly to the Antarctic. The Falklands war was over possession of the oil. Estimates of several trillion barrels of oil can be let loose. "Other that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? ---end quote-- I don't know about the tsunami. I don't see how anyone can predict that with precision. However I think the discharge of that hydrocarbon reservoir will result in geological changes including subsidence of fairly large areas that are currently dry land. Considering the pssiblity that mass evacuations may be required, it is probably not a coincidence that Northcomm is gearing up for military action inside the United States. The federal attention is all on Florida right now. Bobby Jindal and his citizens are being left to twist in the wind. Serves them right for being Republicans. <-- WH attitude. That could be to your benefit, since we all know that when the feds take control chaos follows. The oil contains volatiles that are toxic and carcinogenic. If you can smell heavy oil you are undoubtedly breathing much more than the EPA safe limits of these gases. Workers are trying to clean up this material wearing boots and gloves. They should be in protective clothing with respirators. BP is lying about the toxicity of the oil along with everything else. This isn't good news, but I thought you should know. Maybe NO is in less danger than Florida. The feds seem to think so. Love, Shelley
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I pointed out a while back, and of course got no comments, that a real "fear" now should be Fire. Get enough on top and watch out for sparks. Could be Biblical in effect.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
This tsunami idea was posted before, but I don't buy it. I don't see any water entering this well for many decades so I think that's baloney. I theorize that when the well pipe is destroyed/worn away, the earth will reseal the hole naturally, but that's just my theory. A small nuke may be the best way to go, but one of the disadvantages of that is the apparent political fall out in trying to de-nuke the world and then using one for something useful and productive. Which makes sense because politics is more important than stopping this historic catastrophe.
I've been following things on theoildrum.com for a couple of weeks now. I'm beginning to understand the implications of what knowledgeable people are saying about the deterioration of the well that was installed at Macondo. Remember folks, this is not just a hole. It's a well made out of steel. When that system of big steel pipe breaks or erodes away, the human ability to control the flow of oil becomes impossible. Cementing a plug becomes impossible. Please read for yourselves what dougr has to say on theoildrum. It's long but well worth the read. [-] dougr on June 13, 2010 - 3:17am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top OK let's get real about the GOM oil flow. There doesn't really seem to be much info on TOD that furthers more complete understanding of what's really happening in the GOM. As you have probably seen and maybe feel yourselves, there are several things that do not appear to make sense regarding the actions of attack against the well. Don't feel bad, there is much that doesn't make sense even to professionals unless you take into account some important variables that we are not being told about. There seems to me to be a reluctance to face what cannot be termed anything less than grim circumstances in my opinion. There certainly is a reluctance to inform us regular people and all we have really gotten is a few dots here and there... First of all...set aside all your thoughts of plugging the well and stopping it from blowing out oil using any method from the top down. Plugs, big valves to just shut it off, pinching the pipe closed, installing a new bop or lmrp, shooting any epoxy in it, top kills with mud etc etc etc....forget that, it won't be happening..it's done and over. In fact actually opening up the well at the subsea source and allowing it to gush more is not only exactly what has happened, it was probably necessary, or so they think anyway. So you have to ask WHY? Why make it worse?...there really can only be one answer and that answer does not bode well for all of us. It's really an inescapable conclusion at this point, unless you want to believe that every Oil and Gas professional involved suddenly just forgot everything they know or woke up one morning and drank a few big cups of stupid and got assigned to directing the response to this catastrophe. Nothing makes sense unless you take this into account, but after you do...you will see the "sense" behind what has happened and what is happening. That conclusion is this: The well bore structure is compromised "Down hole". That is something which is a "Worst nightmare" conclusion to reach. While many have been saying this for some time as with any complex disaster of this proportion many have "said" a lot of things with no real sound reasons or evidence for jumping to such conclusions, well this time it appears that they may have jumped into the right place... TOP KILL - FAILS: This was probably our best and only chance to kill this well from the top down. This "kill mud" is a tried and true method of killing wells and usually has a very good chance of success. The depth of this well presented some logistical challenges, but it really should not of presented any functional obstructions. The pumping capacity was there and it would have worked, should have worked, but it didn't. It didn't work, but it did create evidence of what is really happening. First of all the method used in this particular top kill made no sense, did not follow the standard operating procedure used to kill many other wells and in fact for the most part was completely contrary to the procedure which would have given it any real chance of working. When a well is "Killed" using this method heavy drill fluid "Mud" is pumped at high volume and pressure into a leaking well. The leaks are "behind" the point of access where the mud is fired in, in this case the "choke and Kill lines" which are at the very bottom of the BOP (Blow Out Preventer) The heavy fluid gathers in the "behind" portion of the leaking well assembly, while some will leak out, it very quickly overtakes the flow of oil and only the heavier mud will leak out. Once that "solid" flow of mud is established at the leak "behind" the well, the mud pumps increase pressure and begin to overtake the pressure of the oil deposit. The mud is established in a solid column that is driven downward by the now stronger pumps. The heavy mud will create a solid column that is so heavy that the oil deposit can no longer push it up, shut off the pumps...the well is killed...it can no longer flow. Usually this will happen fairly quickly, in fact for it to work at all...it must happen quickly. There is no "trickle some mud in" because that is not how a top kill works. The flowing oil will just flush out the trickle and a solid column will never be established. Yet what we were told was "It will take days to know whether it worked"...."Top kill might take 48 hours to complete"...the only way it could take days is if BP intended to do some "test fires" to test integrity of the entire system. The actual "kill" can only take hours by nature because it must happen fairly rapidly. It also increases strain on the "behind" portion and in this instance we all know that what remained was fragile at best. Early that afternoon we saw a massive flow burst out of the riser "plume" area. This was the first test fire of high pressure mud injection. Later on same day we saw a greatly increased flow out of the kink leaks, this was mostly mud at that time as the kill mud is tanish color due to the high amount of Barite which is added to it to weight it and Barite is a white powder. We later learned the pumping was shut down at midnight, we weren't told about that until almost 16 hours later, but by then...I'm sure BP had learned the worst. The mud they were pumping in was not only leaking out the "behind" leaks...it was leaking out of someplace forward...and since they were not even near being able to pump mud into the deposit itself, because the well would be dead long before...and the oil was still coming up, there could only be one conclusion...the wells casings were ruptured and it was leaking "down hole" They tried the "Junk shot"...the "bridging materials" which also failed and likely made things worse in regards to the ruptured well casings. "Despite successfully pumping a total of over 30,000 barrels of heavy mud, in three attempts at rates of up to 80 barrels a minute, and deploying a wide range of different bridging materials, the operation did not overcome the flow from the well." www.bp.com/genericarticle...2012968&contentId=7062487 80 Barrels per minute is over 200,000 gallons per hour, over 115,000 barrels per day...did we seen an increase over and above what was already leaking out of 115k bpd?....we did not...it would have been a massive increase in order of multiples and this did not happen. "The whole purpose is to get the kill mud down,” said Wells. “We'll have 50,000 barrels of mud on hand to kill this well. It's far more than necessary, but we always like to have backup." Try finding THAT quote around...it's been scrubbed...here's a cached copy of a quote... webcache.googleuserconten...&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us "The "top kill" effort, launched Wednesday afternoon by industry and government engineers, had pumped enough drilling fluid to block oil and gas spewing from the well, Allen said. The pressure from the well was very low, he said, but persisting." "Allen said one ship that was pumping fluid into the well had run out of the fluid, or "mud," and that a second ship was on the way. He said he was encouraged by the progress." www.houmatoday.com/article/20100527/ARTICLES/100529348 Later we found out that Allen had no idea what was really going on and had been "Unavailable all day" www.realclearpolitics.com.../27/interview_with_coas... So what we had was BP running out of 50,000 barrels of mud in a very short period of time. An amount far and above what they deemed necessary to kill the well. Shutting down pumping 16 hours before telling anyone, including the president. We were never really given a clear reason why "Top Kill" failed, just that it couldn't overcome the well. There is only one article anywhere that says anything else about it at this time of writing...and it's a relatively obscure article from the wall street journal "online" citing an unnamed source. "WASHINGTON—BP PLC has concluded that its "top-kill" attempt last week to seal its broken well in the Gulf of Mexico may have failed due to a malfunctioning disk inside the well about 1,000 feet below the ocean floor. The disk, part of the subsea safety infrastructure, may have ruptured during the surge of oil and gas up the well on April 20 that led to the explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon rig, BP officials said. The rig sank two days later, triggering a leak that has since become the worst in U.S. history. The broken disk may have prevented the heavy drilling mud injected into the well last week from getting far enough down the well to overcome the pressure from the escaping oil and gas, people familiar with BP's findings said. They said much of the drilling mud may also have escaped from the well into the rock formation outside the wellbore. As a result, BP wasn't able to get sufficient pressure to keep the oil and gas at bay. If they had been able to build up sufficient pressure, the company had hoped to pump in cement and seal off the well. The effort was deemed a failure on Saturday. BP started the top-kill effort Wednesday afternoon, shooting heavy drilling fluids into the broken valve known as a blowout preventer. The mud was driven by a 30,000 horsepower pump installed on a ship at the surface. But it was clear from the start that a lot of the "kill mud" was leaking out instead of going down into the well." online.wsj.com/article/SB...87560457528013357716426... There are some inconsistencies with this article. There are no "Disks" or "Subsea safety structure" 1,000 feet below the sea floor, all that is there is well bore. There is nothing that can allow the mud or oil to "escape" into the rock formation outside the well bore except the well, because it is the only thing there. All the actions and few tid bits of information all lead to one inescapable conclusion. The well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. Now you have some real data of how BP's actions are evidence of that, as well as some murky statement from "BP officials" confirming the same. I took some time to go into a bit of detail concerning the failure of Top Kill because this was a significant event. To those of us outside the real inside loop, yet still fairly knowledgeable, it was a major confirmation of what many feared. That the system below the sea floor has serious failures of varying magnitude in the complicated chain, and it is breaking down and it will continue to. What does this mean? It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot...the more they try and restrict the oil gushing out the bop?...the more it will transfer to the leaks below. Just like a leaky garden hose with a nozzle on it. When you open up the nozzle?...it doesn't leak so bad, you close the nozzle?...it leaks real bad, same dynamics. It is why they sawed the riser off...or tried to anyway...but they clipped it off, to relieve pressure on the leaks "down hole". I'm sure there was a bit of panic time after they crimp/pinched off the large riser pipe and the Diamond wire saw got stuck and failed...because that crimp diverted pressure and flow to the rupture down below. Contrary to what most of us would think as logical to stop the oil mess, actually opening up the gushing well and making it gush more became direction BP took after confirming that there was a leak. In fact if you note their actions, that should become clear. They have shifted from stopping or restricting the gusher to opening it up and catching it. This only makes sense if they want to relieve pressure at the leak hidden down below the seabed.....and that sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kind of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above, all they can do is relieve the pressure on it and the only way to do that right now is to open up the nozzle above and gush more oil into the gulf and hopefully catch it, which they have done, they just neglected to tell us why, gee thanks. A down hole leak is dangerous and damaging for several reasons. There will be erosion throughout the entire beat up, beat on and beat down remainder of the "system" including that inaccessible leak. The same erosion I spoke about in the first post is still present and has never stopped, cannot be stopped, is impossible to stop and will always be present in and acting on anything that is left which has crude oil "Product" rushing through it. There are abrasives still present, swirling flow will create hot spots of wear and this erosion is relentless and will always be present until eventually it wears away enough material to break it's way out. It will slowly eat the bop away especially at the now pinched off riser head and it will flow more and more. Perhaps BP can outrun or keep up with that out flow with various suckage methods for a period of time, but eventually the well will win that race, just how long that race will be?...no one really knows....However now?...there are other problems that a down hole leak will and must produce that will compound this already bad situation. This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer's immense bulk of 450 tons. In fact?...we are beginning to the results of the well's total integrity beginning to fail due to the undermining being caused by the leaking well bore. The first layer of the sea floor in the gulf is mostly lose material of sand and silt. It doesn't hold up anything and isn't meant to, what holds the entire subsea system of the Bop in place is the well itself. The very large steel connectors of the initial well head "spud" stabbed in to the sea floor. The Bop literally sits on top of the pipe and never touches the sea bed, it wouldn't do anything in way of support if it did. After several tens of feet the seabed does begin to support the well connection laterally (side to side) you couldn't put a 450 ton piece of machinery on top of a 100' tall pipe "in the air" and subject it to the side loads caused by the ocean currents and expect it not to bend over...unless that pipe was very much larger than the machine itself, which you all can see it is not. The well's piping in comparison is actually very much smaller than the Blow Out Preventer and strong as it may be, it relies on some support from the seabed to function and not literally fall over...and it is now showing signs of doing just that....falling over. If you have been watching the live feed cams you may have noticed that some of the ROVs are using an inclinometer...and inclinometer is an instrument that measures "Incline" or tilt. The BOP is not supposed to be tilting...and after the riser clip off operation it has begun to... This is not the only problem that occurs due to erosion of the outer area of the well casings. The way a well casing assembly functions it that it is an assembly of different sized "tubes" that decrease in size as they go down. These tubes have a connection to each other that is not unlike a click or snap together locking action. After a certain length is assembled they are cemented around the ouside to the earth that the more rough drill hole is bored through in the well making process. A very well put together and simply explained process of "How to drill a deep water oil well" is available here: www.treesfullofmoney.com/?p=1610 The well bore casings rely on the support that is created by the cementing phase of well construction. Just like if you have many hands holding a pipe up you could put some weight on the top and the many hands could hold the pipe and the weight on top easily...but if there were no hands gripping and holding the pipe?...all the weight must be held up by the pipe alone. The series of connections between the sections of casings are not designed to hold up the immense weight of the BOP without all the "hands" that the cementing provides and they will eventually buckle and fail when stressed beyond their design limits. These are clear and present dangers to the battered subsea safety structure (bop and lmrp) which is the only loose cork on this well we have left. The immediate (first 1,000 feet) of well structure that remains is now also undoubtedly compromised. However.....as bad as that is?...it is far from the only possible problems with this very problematic well. There were ongoing troubles with the entire process during the drilling of this well. There were also many comprises made by BP IMO which may have resulted in an overall weakened structure of the entire well system all the way to the bottom plug which is over 12,000 feet deep. Problems with the cementing procedure which was done by Haliburton and was deemed as “was against our best practices.” by a Haliburton employee on April 1st weeks before the well blew out. There is much more and I won't go into detail right now concerning the lower end of the well and the troubles encountered during the whole creation of this well and earlier "Well control" situations that were revieled in various internal BP e-mails. I will add several links to those documents and quotes from them below and for now, address the issues concerning the upper portion of the well and the region of the sea floor. What is likely to happen now? Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner. Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us. All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn't any "cap dome" or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?....is the only real chance we have left to stop it all. It's a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it's last gasp in a horrific crescendo. We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said. Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can "get there first"...us or the well. We can only hope the race against that eventuality is one we can win, but my assessment I am sad to say is that we will not. The system will collapse or fail substantially before we reach the finish line ahead of the well and the worst is yet to come. Sorry to bring you that news, I know it is grim, but that is the way I see it....I sincerely hope I am wrong. We need to prepare for the possibility of this blow out sending more oil into the gulf per week then what we already have now, because that is what a collapse of the system will cause. All the collection efforts that have captured oil will be erased in short order. The magnitude of this disaster will increase exponentially by the time we can do anything to halt it and our odds of actually even being able to halt it will go down. The magnitude and impact of this disaster will eclipse anything we have known in our life times if the worst or even near worst happens... We are seeing the puny forces of man vs the awesome forces of nature. We are going to need some luck and a lot of effort to win... and if nature decides we ought to lose, we will.... Reference materials: On April 1, a job log written by a Halliburton employee, Marvin Volek, warns that BP’s use of cement “was against our best practices.” An April 18 internal Halliburton memorandum indicates that Halliburton again warned BP about its practices, this time saying that a “severe” gas flow problem would occur if the casings were not centered more carefully. Around that same time, a BP document shows, company officials chose a type of casing with a greater risk of collapsing. www.nytimes.com/2010/06/0...agewanted=1&sq=at_issue... Mark Hafle, the BP drilling engineer who wrote plans for well casings and cement seals on the Deepwater Horizon's well, testified that the well had lost thousands of barrels of mud at the bottom. But he said models run onshore showed alterations to the cement program would resolve the issues, and when asked if a cement failure allowed the well to "flow" gas and oil, he wouldn't capitulate. Hafle said he made several changes to casing designs in the last few days before the well blew, including the addition of the two casing liners that weren't part of the original well design because of problems where the earthen sides of the well were "ballooning." He also worked with Halliburton engineers to design a plan for sealing the well casings with cement. www.nola.com/news/gulf-oi.../2010/05/hearings_bp_ce... graphic of fail media.nola.com/news_impact/other/oil-cause-050710.pdf Casing joint Kill may take until Christmas preview.bloomberg.com/new...ulf-of-mexico-oil-leak-... BP Used Riskier Method to Seal Well Before Blast www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/us/27rig.html BP memo test results energycommerce.house.gov/...2/Internal.BP.Email.Reg... Investigation results The information from BP identifies several new warning signs of problems. According to BP there were three flow indicators from the well before the explosion. energycommerce.house.gov/...5/Memo.BP.Internal.Inve... BP, what we know energycommerce.house.gov/...00512/BP-What.We.Know.pdf What could have happened 1. Before or during the cement job, an influx of hydrocarbon enters the wellbore. 2. Influx is circulated during cement job to wellhead and BOP. 3. 9-7/8” casing hanger packoff set and positively tested to 6500 psi. 4. After 16.5 hours waiting on cement, a negative test performed on wellbore below BOP. (~ 1400 psi differential pressure on 9-7/8” casing hanger packoff and ~ 2350 psi on double valve float collar) 5. Packoff leaks allowing hydrocarbon to enter wellbore below BOP. 1400 psi shut in pressure observed on drill pipe (no flow or pressure observed on kill line) 6. Hydrocarbon below BOP is unknowingly circulated to surface while finishing displacing the riser. 7. As hydrocarbon rises to surface, gas break out of solution further reduces hydrostatic pressure in well. Well begin to flow, BOPs and Emergency Disconnect System (EDS) activated but failed. 8. Packoff continues to leak allowing further influx from bottom. Confidential energycommerce.house.gov/...2/BP-What.Could.Have.Ha... T/A daily log 4-20 energycommerce.house.gov/...2/TRO-Daily.Drilling.Re... Cement plug 12,150 ft SCMT logging tool SCMT (Slim Cement Mapping Tool) Schlumberger Partial CBL done. energycommerce.house.gov/...0530/BP-HZN-CEC018441.pdf Schlum CBL tools www.slb.com/~/media/Files...ct_sheets/well_integrit... Major concerns, well control, bop test. energycommerce.house.gov/...0530/BP-HZN-CEC018375.pdf Energy & commerce links to docs. energycommerce.house.gov/...com_content&view=articl... well head on sea floor Well head on deck of ship nca-group.com/bilder//Trolla/DSC_0189.JPG BP's youtube propoganda page, a lot of rarely seen vids here....FWIW www.youtube.com/user/DeepwaterHorizonJIC www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1097505/pg1 I used to cover the energy business (oil, gas and alternative) here in Texas, and the few experts in the oil field -- including geologists, chemists, etc. -- able or willing to even speak of this BP event told me early on that it is likely the entire reserve will bleed out. Unfortunately none of them could say with any certainty just how much oil is in the reserve in question because, for one thing, the oil industry and secrecy have always been synonymous. According to BP data from about five years ago, there are four separate reservoirs containing a total of 2.5 billion barrels (barrels not gallons). One of the reservoirs has 1.5 billion barrels. I saw an earlier post here quoting an Anadarko Petroleum report which set the total amount at 2.3 billion barrels. One New York Times article put it at 2 billion barrels. If the BP data correctly or honestly identified four separate reservoirs then a bleed-out might gush less than 2 to 2.5 billion barrels unless the walls -- as it were -- fracture or partially collapse. I am hearing the same dark rumors which suggest fracturing and a complete bleed-out are already underway. Rumors also suggest a massive collapse of the Gulf floor itself is in the making. They are just rumors but it is time for geologists or related experts to end their deafening silence and speak to these possibilities. All oilmen lie about everything. The stories one hears about the extent to which they will protect themselves are all understatements. BP employees are already taking The Fifth before grand juries, and attorneys are laying a path for company executives to make a run for it. Comments can no longer be added to this story. www.theoildrum.com/node/6593#comments_top [emphasis added - r.]
Ran into this right off the bat in reading this mat'l. They started lieing early on. Just as an informational point I'm curious 1)How they determined this resevoir (sp?) of oil was there, 2) how they know the others mentioned are there. I would suspect it's done sonically, since it noted they're NOW mapping all of the area strata. It's fairly clear in this analysis that BP, AND Halliburton are co-responsible for this screwup. I still say, there's an even worse threat building than even the pollution in the Gulf, and that's Fire.
And THEN FIRE.
Bah. Drop a billion ton concrete plug on it. Problem solved. How much is a billion tons in pounds, anyway?
For it is not the wolf or any of the other beasts that would join the contest in any noble danger, but rather a good man. — Aristotle, Politics, Book IIX
I theorize that when the well pipe is destroyed/worn away, the earth will reseal the hole naturally, but that's just my theory. This is just one possibility, the others I see are: 1. The pressure equalizes between the oil chamber and the ocean and it simply becomes stagnant with some small amount of seepage as the chamber refills from the natural processes creating oil deep in the bowels of the earth. This is the best possible outcome we can hope for. 2. The pressure equalizes but the vacated chamber no longer has the structural strength to withstand the weight of a mile high column of water and collapses. The result of that could be: There are other variables at play which remain unknown. The chief one is the volume of the chamber in which the oil is located, and how long it takes the pressure to equalize. I have seen estimates ranging from as low as a couple of billion barrels to somewhere in the trillions. We don't have enough data to accurately estimate it, but if the Russians are right it is more likely to be trillions than billions. The biologic damage alone, from the oil and gas release, is going to be catastrophic over a very large area not limited to the Gulf.
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At this point I don't think it can get much worse, and I already saw one account that it may already be on fire.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
One note of interest, when you read the Mayans or the Hopis or even Nostradamas' end time prophecies, one constrant remains: the purification will come through FIRE.
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Geophysicists and petroleum geologists call it "seismically." They do it like this. Sometimes they use dynamite. On the sea they use ships that tow "birds" to send and receive signals. In conjunction with info that they get from logging the wells they have a pretty good idea about what's down there. They create 2D visualizations, and 3D maps. The geophysicists that do this stuff are outstanding physicists and big software geeks to boot.
Man, your just not gettin' it, OI. By the time the pressure is equalized, that reservoir will have been emptied out, and there will be millions of barrels of oil flooding the seas of the world. There are no words for how bad this could get.
Not millions - BILLIONS. And stay tuned I am going to run up an article here in a minute. Most people are wholly unaware just how bad this IS going to get.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Agree. My imagination is starting to depress me.
That's where my imagination keeps taking me.
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But the chamber will never be vacated. That's not even possible. Once pressure drops to an equilibrium, then oil will stop coming out. The chamber will still be full of oil but not under sufficient pressure to push it to the sea floor surface. Maybe 5 miles of ocean floor will (or is) sinking slightly as the oil comes out, keeping the pressure high, but regardless, the chamber obviously will never fill with air, or, I believe, water either. Nothing will go in as long as oil is coming out, and once it slows sufficiently, it should clog up with natural debris. Ergo, I don't think any of your #2 results are on the table.
#2. To: Ada (#0)
#3. To: Ada (#0)
#4. To: ndcorup, (#1)
Could be Biblical in effect.
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#5. To: randge (#4)
"There are some inconsistencies with this article. There are no "Disks" or "Subsea safety structure" 1,000 feet below the sea floor, all that is there is well bore. There is nothing that can allow the mud or oil to "escape" into the rock formation outside the well bore except the well, because it is the only thing there."
#6. To: randge (#4)
"If the BP data correctly or honestly identified four separate reservoirs then a bleed-out might gush less than 2 to 2.5 billion barrels unless the walls -- as it were -- fracture or partially collapse. I am hearing the same dark rumors which suggest fracturing and a complete bleed-out are already underway. Rumors also suggest a massive collapse of the Gulf floor itself is in the making. They are just rumors but it is time for geologists or related experts to end their deafening silence and speak to these possibilities"
#7. To: Ada (#0)
#8. To: Pinguinite, Ada, christine, wudidiz, abraxas, farmfriend, ratcat, TwentyTwelve, ndcorup, Eric Stratton, randge, all (#3)
This tsunami idea was posted before, but I don't buy it. I don't see any water entering this well for many decades so I think that's baloney.
2a. The shifting crust to accomodate the collapse could result in some heavy duty earthquakes (don't forget that this is geologically connected to the "New Madrid Fault" in the Mississipi drainage - which in the early 1800's produced likely the largest North American earthquake in recorded memory - and this could set it off again) and one or more tsunamis and then eventually establish a new equilibrium.
2b. There could be a balancing upthrust in the geologically connected region, again resulting in tsunamis and possibly some new land above the ocean surface.
2c. It could also become a combination of all of the above including the original flooding and creation of massive steam pressure as posited in the article - sort of the worst of all possible worlds, and unfortunately I think that the most likely. The geologic consequences of that would not be minor but there are too many variables to predict an outcome, as it could also open up a magma chamber resulting in an explosion that would make Krakatoa look like a firecracker.
#9. To: ndcorup (#5)
I still say, there's an even worse threat building than even the pollution in the Gulf, and that's Fire.
#10. To: ndcorup (#6)
#11. To: ndcorup (#5)
I would suspect it's done sonically,
#12. To: Original_Intent (#8)
1. The pressure equalizes between the oil chamber and the ocean
#13. To: randge (#12)
By the time the pressure is equalized, that reservoir will have been emptied out, and there will be millions of barrels of oil flooding the seas of the world.
#14. To: randge (#12)
"There are no words for how bad this could get."
#15. To: abraxas (#10)
"One note of interest, when you read the Mayans or the Hopis or even Nostradamas' end time prophecies, one constrant remains: the purification will come through FIRE."
#16. To: abraxas, ndcorup (#10)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#17. To: Original_Intent (#8)
2. The pressure equalizes but the vacated chamber no longer has the structural strength to withstand the weight of a mile high column of water and collapses. The result of that could be:
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