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Title: White House shows guest- worker plan for entrants
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ARIZONA DAILY STAR
URL Source: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/93589.php
Published: Sep 16, 2005
Author: C.J. Karamargin
Post Date: 2005-09-16 21:28:27 by StarShadow
Keywords: entrants, guest-, worker
Views: 177
Comments: 14
White House shows guest- worker plan for entrants Those already here could stay for 3 years, then renew visas By C.J. Karamargin ARIZONA DAILY STAR The White House is preparing to unveil an immigration-reform plan that would allow millions of undocumented residents to remain in the United States as guest workers, two Arizona congressmen said. Under a plan presented to a handful of Republican lawmakers by top presidential adviser Karl Rove, undocumented residents already here could apply for a three-year guest-worker visa. As explained to the congressmen, the plan gives workers the opportunity to renew that visa for another three years before requiring them to leave the country. They could then apply again to return. Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., one of the congressmen who spent an hour and 15 minutes with Rove and other administration officials Wednesday, said he was taken aback by the "comprehensive" nature of the plan. "I was surprised to find that they have gone as far as they have in preparing a specific proposal," said Kolbe, who has long championed a guest-worker plan as a way to control the tide of illegal border crossers. "We thought we were just going down for a discussion of different proposals." Rep. Jeff Flake, also at the White House meeting, was struck by the level of detail. "I was impressed with the time and effort they put into it," said Flake, also from Arizona. "I expected more of an outline. We got more flesh than expected." According to Kolbe, the plan also bolsters border security and immigration laws in the United States. He said he expects the White House will send it to Congress this fall. "We only have October and November and maybe part of December to go," he said. "Whether it passes this year is another matter." Although unfamiliar with the details of the White House plan, the Rev. Robin Hoover of Tucson's Humane Borders welcomed any proposal that could help reduce the number of entrants dying as they enter the United States through the deserts of the Southwest. "If they do it I'll be tickled," he said. "It sends a strong message that immigration belongs to the center and not to the left or right." Kolbe and Flake say the White House plan tracks a proposal they've introduced with Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. That proposal, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, has been criticized by conservatives as too lenient to the estimated 11 million illegal workers now in the country. Prospects for overhauling the nation's immigration laws, like reforming Social Security, dimmed after Hurricane Katrina compelled Congress to reorder its priorities. Two weeks ago Kolbe predicted that providing relief to the storm-ravaged Gulf Coast would dominate Congress for much of September. But Kolbe described the White House immigration plan as "more specific and complete" than the plan to introduce private investment accounts into the Social Security system. "As an item of legislative action, it is definitely not off the table," he said. ? Contact reporter C.J. Karamargin at 573-4243 or ckaramargin@azstarnet.com.
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The White House is preparing to unveil an immigration-reform plan that would allow millions of undocumented residents to remain in the United States as guest workers... Since there are apparently NO provisions for deporting any of the illegal aliens which are all currently criminals because they broke and are breaking federal law by coming and staying here, this a pure amnesty. It will KILL this nation. Will we as a people, American Citizens, let this happen? The Washington DC Scamnesty will probably be shoved through the system... then what?
Right up there with the (UN)Patriot Act.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Civil War.
I hope they serve minty drinks and little grilled cheese sandwiches with the crusts cut off.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S. Burroughs
Nope, refried beans cooked in lard. That's what crack monkey and I are hoping Cheney eats everyday from now on. It should be required of all those voting for this amnesty.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Remeber that this isn't really about Mexicans. Bush and his buddies can get all the Mexicans they want no matter what laws are in place. This is about the cheap, educated white collar workers that Bush's corporate buddies need. Nurses, Engineers, Teachers, Doctors, Architects, Mechanics, Machinists, IT workers, CPA's and anything else that takes education and skill. Bush's pals must now pay for these skills, i.e., purchase them from the pesky middle class. If Bush can get Indians and Pakistanis to fill these slots at five bucks an hours, the richest ten percent of this country will make a killing.
If the destruction of the middle class is spread over two generations most average Americans will support it. Americans don't care about their rights, freedoms, standard of living or culture as long as these things are taken away slowly. Watch the bots on LP cheer for the legislation that fills their jobs with cheap foreign labor.
Probably the richest 3%. But, I agree with your statement. Why Americans who tout "free trade" think competing with the world's limitless labor pool is somehow good for America, and the only enlightened and egalitarian approach to real economics, is beyond me.
"A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." – Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Who could have asked for better timing. Of course the nation will "need" these workers, whom will work for $6.00hr to rebuild NOLA as it will be work that "no one else will want (at $6.00hr). How convenient, indeed.
Then, best you know how to speak Spanish, or mexican. Look around you, and see the signs.
Interesting that Rove is the point man on this.
Why is it anti-semitic to recognize the counterproductive nature of an alliance with Israel that emboldens them to recklessly oppress Palestinians? Why is it anti-semitic to criticize the spending of US taxpayer money to shore up a garrison state which commenced its existence by "displacing" Palestinians, to the Chagrin of Arabs who are thereby motivated to attack U.S. citizens? 'Because it is.' -Goldi-Lox
I believe that what they're not tellin gus in this article is that these people holding these 'work visas' will have their visas sponsored by individual employers. Those employers will in essence have a semi-slave. These individuals' existence in this country will be dependent on an employer. They won't be free labor. They'll be in essence indentured servants. and then every 6 years they're forced back to home country merely so they can be humiliated and pushed down. They never get citizenship apparently according to this. But they will hope for it. They are treated like garbage. At the same time it pushes American wages down. Also what they don't tell you in this article is that they'll legalize this system of indentured servitude for existing illegal aliens now, but later they'll have a system where any american employer can hire such an indentured servant from a pool of foreign labor and bring them here.
I have never read a bot on LP cheer for this cheap labor disaster. Even the bozos on FR see the disaster coming down the road. Except for Bayourod and Howlin. Eighty percent of the American people are against this and yet are ignored. That is what needs explaining. How these jerks like Bush and Rove feel so secure about giving the rest of us the finger.
Nothing. We will accept the latest outrage as we have every other. Because we still believe that this was arrived at in an honest manner. We still believe that the system works. Which is not the case. It only works for the monied and special interest groups.
Those already here could stay for 3 years, then renew visas
#2. To: StarShadow, *The Border* (#0)
Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act
#3. To: StarShadow (#1)
The Washington DC Scamnesty will probably be shoved through the system... then what?
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The White House is preparing to unveil an immigration-reform plan that would allow millions of undocumented residents to remain in the United States as guest workers.
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If Bush can get Indians and Pakistanis to fill these slots at five bucks an hours, the richest ten percent of this country will make a killing.
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...then what?
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Under a plan presented to a handful of Republican lawmakers by top presidential adviser Karl Rove, undocumented residents already here could apply for a three-year guest-worker visa.
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