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Title: Costner's 'dream' machines debut
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Published: Jun 20, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-20 11:20:15 by buckeroo
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News agencies reported on the actor's premiere staged at the docks in the oil industry supply port of Port Fourchon in southern Louisiana as BP began deploying 32 of his "dream" machines to separate oil from water. Costner's backdrop was an oil-finding barge with his machines mounted on the deck. "At its core, my dream, this machine, was designed ... to give us a fighting chance to fight back the oil that's got us by the throat," Costner told reporters. "When you are in a fight, anybody knows you go to confront it right where it is. You don't wait for it to come to your door," the actor said. Costner's company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, signed a contract with BP to provide 32 units expected to work in the next 60 days. BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles would not disclose financial details. Costner said each machine, called a V20, can separate 210,000 gallons of oily water a day. Costner, best-known for such films as "Dances with Wolves" and "Waterworld," stressed he was no overnight oil spill sensation. He has been trying to employ the technology designed by his company for the past 17 years, and has invested more than $20 million of his own money in its development. The technology was developed two decades ago by a researcher at the Idaho National Laboratory by scientist David Meikrantz, who initially sought to use the machines to separate the components of nuclear substances. In 1993, INL licensed the technology to Ocean Therapy Solutions, a company owned by Costner. Poster Comment: There is hope, yet folks.
Hollywood star Kevin Costner debuted Friday in his supporting role as a Gulf oil-spill fighter.
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#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)
OK ... a better, new and improved handle for Original_intent is Chicken_Little.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Does he get to keep the oil and sell it? What happens to it?
For it is not the wolf or any of the other beasts that would join the contest in any noble danger, but rather a good man. — Aristotle, Politics, Book IIX
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! LOL! "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
lol
Chicken Little "I'm Just a Kid"
Since BP s the solicitor for same equipment, they constrain all rights to the oil. Remember, that oil essentially floats on salt water. This ensures a relatively easy method to separate the stuff; it isn't all diluted as some claim on 4um.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
It is just so fitting. A perfect title for the all purpose shill. I wonder if he is self medicating again? "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I like how it rolls off the tongue. It's still Saturday night for Nostradumbass.
Aren't you three supposed to be outside enjoying the world around you while looking up into the sky and pursing your lips while blowing chemtrails away, saving the planet? No? Now the world is going to die from an oil spill? My heavens, you three are an amazing wonder of a slapstick comedic homogeneous blend ... the three stooges?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
LOL!!
I like how it rolls off the tongue. It's still Saturday night for Nostradumbass. Hell, it is a week of endless Saturday Nights for Nostradumbass. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Strange that you would attempt to label me with "Nostradumbass", when I have used the credit for your very own mentor "Nostradamus" on this very thread; Original_Intent. You are far from original, my little chemtrail, cropcircle fiend.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
For your amusement. Starts at Post #17.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Is the great sage, formerly known as Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass still sharing his ever delightful rabbit pellets of wisdom?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Apparently.
wudidiz: wud it didz, it sez right dere in de prophet: O_I, I wub you. De Bloombergs, De Bilderbergs, De CFR, De Tri-wateral Comission and the FED! DEY be all behind it. And de chemtrails, 2.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
It is ever so delightful to try to visualize Nostradumbass and his endlessly diarrhetic flow of wisdom. It seems to come in a never ending stream from the outhouse of his inspiration. "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Given present knowledge and understanding perhaps. But not necessarily should the complete intelligence humanity has, or can access, become deployed. The biggest problem I see, is that people with limited knowledge and understanding, hold onto positions where they prevent those with more capabilities from making positive changes. Like the idiotic bureaucrats who dismissed Kevin Costner's $25 million inventions developed over 10 years designed specifically to clean up messes like this one. Or the political and intel hacks who thought there would be no consequences from allowing Afghanistan to devolve into anarchy and chaos after losing millions of their own people to protect American interests. Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley In the meantime we have a problem which is going to cause untold misery and hundreds of billions in damage, with likely another hundred billion, or more, to mitigate the damage.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Why don't you get off your ass, you stupid FUCK and realize that modern technology is stretched to the limit to satisfy world demands for oil. Then and only then can you be part of the solutions as opposed to being hamstrumg begging GOD in a word of prayer.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
"Poor, poor BP. They were just trying to help. It's the population's fault. Kill all the bad peoples. SAVE BP!!!"
wud it iz: de welt is me playground as wong as me me pal, O_I is blowing chemtrails with me. Dos ebil chemtrails ned us!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
lol....I predict that one will stick.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Some dead zones have already been mitigated and reversed, including but not limited to government programs. While the Black Sea "cleanup" was largely unintentional and involved a drop in hard-to-control fertilizer usage, 8] the U.N. has advocated other cleanups by reducing large industrial emissions.[From 1985 to 2000, the North Sea dead zone had nitrogen reduced by 37% when policy efforts by countries on the Rhine River reduced sewage and industrial emissions of nitrogen into the water. Other cleanups have taken place along the Hudson River [9] and San Francisco Bay.[1] Here is a revealing, simple approach from the practical side of farmers. Hay tossed onto the oil in the ocean will attract the oil to itself (remember, oil and water don't mix, but hay and oil become a bonded pair), and continue to float on the surface until large seaweed harvesters come by and pick it up. It can then be delivered to a future forest, inoculated with mycelia from mushrooms which would feed off of the oil and convert it to food. The resulting biomass will pick up some of the diverse flora and fauna of the region as seeds are delivered to the pile by the local birds and animals. Trees can be planted nearby, and based on known evidence, one of the most lush forest areas in the state will soon follow. Summary Bottom line is that natural answers already exist - and they are more effective, and more powerful, than the chemical attempts. Of course, vested interests also exist which prefer you do not know of these natural measures, but their world is rapidly crumbling before our eyes, and an entire world focused on cooperation for the betterment of the whole is now emerging from the shadows. The solutions are simpler than we think. The question is, are we, as a society, going to mandate that these natural solutions, or others like them, be implemented now? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley In an exclusive interview, Ken Price, a 14 year oil industry veteran, talked about his experience in the industry and his contempt for the failure of B P to cap the Deepwater Horizon spill and the environmental ramifications. DJW: What back ground and experience do you have in the oil industry? KP: I started out with a major oil company right after I earned my BS degree in Mechanical Engineering from Berkeley, Ca. and worked in the commercial marketing and engineering division for fourteen years. I spent a great deal of time around large stationary engines used in power generation and manufacturing. DJW: Have you witnessed corruption first hand in the oil industry? KP: One time, on a visit to New York, my group got to tour the main office (of oil corporation)and meet some of the higher ups, and it was during this visit that I heard them boast about the actual number and occurrences of oil shortage predictions in the United States. My memory went back to about 1972, the now infamous Arab Oil Embargo. Their memories went back to the early 1900's, with additional ones occurring about every ten years. They freely admitted that it was through the public illusion "of a finite amount of oil being present on the planet", like only a certain number of diamonds in South Africa that they could convince the public to pay a decent profit for it. Otherwise, it would be like charging for water. Today, I believe we should get on with much more efficient and non polluting resources like crystal hydrogen, hydrogen from water, and a host of others, electric cars for example we could produce in weeks, that are by today's standards a thousand times better than petroleum. DJW: You were open to being interviewed, because you said the Deepwater Horizon set off a “primeval planetary defense system” in you. Could you elaborate on that feeling? KP: The arrogance that I see displayed here by the oil companies, the fact that they are willing to take chances with our ocean, just seems out of line with any fellow human beings who plan on living into the future. How did they ever decide for themselves to take such chances? And for what? There are so many other places where they have already discovered oil and are simply not using it. Drilling beneath the seas, especially where it is so deep is another dumb idea, just like requiring all gas stations to put their tanks underground so now we can't see the leaks into the soil. So, let's just say that there are some unbelievably stupid things being allowed to happen. DJW: You said the oil industry is very corrupt and you have not fought against it due to the feeling of being powerless. What made you decide to speak up now? KP: I said the oil industry is as corrupt as the statement "petroleum is a non-renewable energy source". Everyone would agree that all plant and animal life comes from a combination of elements on earth in conjunction with sunshine as the source of energy. DJW: Are you saying the best kept secret by the oil industry is that oil can be synthesized and it can be a “renewable source”? KP: Yes, we can make oil ourselves using algae and sunlight. Keep in mind, the most efficient solar collector is the plant. Every plant on this planet is thus a very efficient solar collector. We just simply need to embrace the concept. One other note I want to add is the horrendous volumes of oil it takes to provide the energy needs of the planet. We spend countless dollars on trucks, tanks, pipelines, oil tankers, ports, refineries, etc. Isn't it time to take a look at a more efficient form of energy, one that is more compact or dense so-to-speak? Can a 500 hp car run on a cup of hydrogen crystals for a year? It is possible. DJW: Lamar McKay, head of BP testified before the Senate on Tuesday and he said, “no amount of resources will be spared to clean up the oil spill and mitigate the damages”. Do you believe him? KP: Anyone who would trust an oil company executive or spokesman today could probably be declared legally insane. I mean think about it just one moment and ask yourself when have they ever told us the truth? They always under-report the size of a spill and the danger to animals and workers. In the case of the Exxon Valdez it has been 20 years and only 1/10 of the claims have been handled. Less than 4% of the oil was recovered. Ask anyone associated with fishing in Prince William Sound and they will tell you that the mess was never cleaned up. DJW: BP representatives have repeatedly said, “we will pay all ˜legitimate claims”. Do you think the repeated use of the “legitimate” forecasts that their attorneys will come up with evasive definitions of “legitimate”? KP: This well is leaking upwards of 1.2 million gallons a day; these are BP's own figures. They acknowledge that if the valve breaks that it could be upwards of five million gallons a day. So the idea that they will cover all legitimate claims is a physical impossibility. DJW: Environmentalists are calling for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s resignation, because he didn’t reform the Mineral Management Service. If he had done so, safety regulations would have been reinstated to the level with the rest of the world and the explosion could have been avoided. Is that a fair assessment? KP: It is a very partial assessment. Someone high in the Bush Administration approved the rig knowing that it was not going to have an acoustic blowout preventer. Then there's the question of who approved a floating type of platform in the first place, one that relies on diesel powered thruster engines in conjunction with a GPS positioning system to "hold" it in one place above the well. Most people were taken unawares that such a thing had ever been approved. Most believe that this platform was anchored to the bottom when it was actually held in place by a non-failsafe system. This is an idea that should never have gotten by anyone who had ever experienced a hurricane at sea. DJW: Do you have any other examples of corruption and greed by oil companies? KP: I'll give you another example. The plastic bag, a new "invention" brought to us via the petrochemical industry which replaced biodegradable paper. The plastic bag is not biodegradable but yet they are able to market it as a "disposable". How they get away with this gives you some indication of the lobbying power this conglomerate has. The fact that the act of converting paper to plastic requires an increase in petroleum production clearly contradicts their statements that they are trying to find ways to conserve energy and reduce oil dependence. Similar conversions have occurred with packaging, furniture, home building materials, clothing and a zillion manufactured items that are now (poor quality) junk by yesterday’s standards. Ken Price considers himself to be a kind of “planetary watchdog” and the world could use many more just like him. ***Delilah Jean Williams 2010
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
WOE IS US. WOE IS US. WOES IS US. Where was this FUCKER 14 years ago? What are they charlatans and gas-bags like you?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
lol....I predict that one will stick. Like glue - or Tar Balls. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Helping O_I understand ANYTHING is about as worthwhile as reading his speculative conjectures from obscene sources. O_I claims we are doomed.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
But, Nostradumbass, YOU claim we are all doomed because of globull warming, peak oil, and too many billions and billions of people. How can we snuff out 4-5 billion to solve all of these terrible problems?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Maybe they could all just drink themselves to death?
GO FUCK yourself: if we could just kill billions and billions of people, then everything would be okay.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
No, it's wisdumb. Or so it seems anyway. Someone who is always carrying on about the discredited theories of global warming and peak oil and claiming that the earth is severely overpopulated, yet makes no effort to ameliorate the problem(s) by taking himself out is not to be taken too seriously.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. You can manage any deficit of resources caused by too much demand by requiring birth rate to be less then natural attrition by normal death rate. Unless you do, the death rate spike when the size of a population reaches a tipping point causing war and starvation when hunger and hate is fueled by need. It isn't a fun process, much as reducing the national deficit can never be. But it is just as necessary a thing to do for obvious reasons.
Who has the right to do that? Noone.
LOL! Good one.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Yeah, thanks. :-) "The TV says BP's okay and there's too many people."
The PONZI scheme is caused by government. By increasing a population base, theoretically the income revenues also increase. In America, this idea of sustainable populations lead to illegal immigration problems. It is BACK_FIRING, all around the world. Why? Earlier socialist programs for the publick were based upon an increasing tax base backed by increasing populations. It was all a lie and worked well during times of economic growth. Today, the house of cards concerning sustainable growth is showing true colours.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Bovine excrement. You are merely justifying war, hunger and hate which arises from an inability to WORK TOGETHER for the common good. There is no spiking death rate, in fact, life expectancy has been steadily on the rise in the midst of war and hate. If only, doctors would stop saving so darn many lives then we could increase the number of deaths. The only thing that is infinate is human stupidity.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Gee, Buck, for one who continually blames the human population as the cause of all problems we face, you sure are bitchy when it comes to solutions. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I am not measuring the death rate, I am merely saying it is an undeniable reality that is the only way populations change that can be used to manage them. You put a meter/yard stick to it, not me.
Wouldn't an increase in the death rate solve the pesky overpopulation problem? More wars, famines, and hate should assist in your goal, Mike.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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#19. To: buckeroo (#0)
#20. To: James Deffenbach, Nostradumbass, all (#17)
I think I heard him snickering and saying he would just as soon as you changed yours to Nostradumbass. Reckon that would be fair?
Nostradumbass! How wonderfully appropriate.
#21. To: James Deffenbach, Original_Intent (#17)
Nostradumbass
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#22. To: buckeroo (#18)
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#23. To: Turtle (#19)
Does he get to keep the oil and sell it? What happens to it?
Oil dispersed in water and then run through these filters is resulting in a 98 percent separation," said Jeffrey Youngblood, who developed the technology. He said the technology could also be used for a variety of other applications, including water purification and industrial uses.
#24. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Nostradumbass, all (#21)
Nostradumbass
#25. To: Original_Intent (#24)
Nostradumbass
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#26. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#21)
#27. To: buckeroo (#26)
Nostradumbass
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#28. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Nostradumbass, all (#25)
Nostradumbass
#29. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#27)
#30. To: abraxas (#28)
#31. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Nostradumbass, all (#27)
Nostradumbass Nostradumbass Nostradumbass
#32. To: Original_Intent (#31)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#33. To: wudidiz (#32)
#34. To: wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Nostradumbass, all (#32)
Apparently.
#35. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#12)
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There is no comparable event in recorded history. This society, and its culture, will be profoundly changed by this "event", and in ways that are difficult to foresee in their entirety.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#36. To: AGAviator (#35)
Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.
#37. To: Original_Intent (#36)
In the meantime we have a problem which is going to cause untold misery and hundreds of billions in damage, with likely another hundred billion, or more, to mitigate the damage.
#38. To: buckeroo (#37)
modern technology is stretched to the limit to satisfy world demands for oil.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#39. To: wudidiz (#38)
#40. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#20)
Nostradumbass
#41. To: Original_Intent (#36)
Dead zones are reversible. The Black Sea dead zone, previously the largest dead zone in the world, largely disappeared between 1991 and 2001 after fertilizers became too costly to use following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the demise of centrally planned economies in Eastern and Central Europe. Fishing has again become a major economic activity in the region.[8]
Four Natural Solutions to Oil Spill Cleanup3) Paul Stamets' Mushroom Solution for Oil Spills
Mushrooms
The Mushroom Solution TED Video takes you to a world authority on mushrooms Paul Stamets and the mushroom’s ability to help us clean up our environment. In the middle of the TED video, you will see a picture of a small mountain of mushrooms that grew off of a combination of petrochemicals, drastically reducing its petroleum count, while building the beginnings of a dynamic ecosystem. 4) Hey, What About Hay? Video Hay
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#42. To: Nostradumbass, christine, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, all (#37)
by Delilah Jean Williams
#43. To: Original_Intent (#42)
In an exclusive interview, Ken Price, a 14 year oil industry veteran, talked about his experience in the industry and his contempt for the failure of B P to cap the Deepwater Horizon spill and the environmental ramifications.
#44. To: abraxas, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, Nostradumbass, all (#40)
Nostradumbass
#45. To: AGAviator (#41)
#46. To: buckeroo (#45)
O_I claims we are doomed
#47. To: abraxas (#46)
How can we snuff out 4-5 billion to solve all of these terrible problems?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#48. To: abraxas (#46)
#49. To: Original_Intent (#31)
Is the great sage, formerly known as Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass still sharing his ever delightful rabbit pellets of wisdom?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#50. To: abraxas (#46)
"How can we snuff out 4-5 billion to solve all of these terrible problems?"
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#51. To: Ferret, abraxas (#50)
requiring birth rate to be less then natural attrition by normal death rate.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#52. To: wudidiz (#38)
"Poor, poor BP. They were just trying to help. It's the population's fault. Kill all the bad peoples. SAVE BP!!!"
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#53. To: James Deffenbach (#52)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#54. To: Ferret (#50)
#55. To: Ferret (#50)
Unless you do, the death rate spike when the size of a population reaches a tipping point causing war and starvation when hunger and hate is fueled by need.
#56. To: buckeroo (#48)
#57. To: abraxas (#55)
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#58. To: Ferret (#57)
I am not measuring the death rate
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