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Title: Costner's 'dream' machines debut
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com/_ne ... -costners-dream-machines-debut
Published: Jun 20, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-06-20 11:20:15 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 808
Comments: 79

Hollywood star Kevin Costner debuted Friday in his supporting role as a Gulf oil-spill fighter.

News agencies reported on the actor's premiere staged at the docks in the oil industry supply port of Port Fourchon in southern Louisiana as BP began deploying 32 of his "dream" machines to separate oil from water. Costner's backdrop was an oil-finding barge with his machines mounted on the deck.

"At its core, my dream, this machine, was designed ... to give us a fighting chance to fight back the oil that's got us by the throat," Costner told reporters.

"When you are in a fight, anybody knows you go to confront it right where it is. You don't wait for it to come to your door," the actor said.

Costner's company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, signed a contract with BP to provide 32 units expected to work in the next 60 days.

BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles would not disclose financial details.

Costner said each machine, called a V20, can separate 210,000 gallons of oily water a day.

Costner, best-known for such films as "Dances with Wolves" and "Waterworld," stressed he was no overnight oil spill sensation. He has been trying to employ the technology designed by his company for the past 17 years, and has invested more than $20 million of his own money in its development.

The technology was developed two decades ago by a researcher at the Idaho National Laboratory by scientist David Meikrantz, who initially sought to use the machines to separate the components of nuclear substances.

In 1993, INL licensed the technology to Ocean Therapy Solutions, a company owned by Costner.


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#1. To: christine, turtle, all (#0)

One more solution is on the way for the spill.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   12:18:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1) (Edited)

...the spill.

To paraphrase Wilford Brimley's character in the movie Absence of Malice:

"A spill? Last time there was a "spill" like this, Noah had to build hisself an ark."

Esso  posted on  2010-06-20   12:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Esso (#2)

We are going to die!

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:00:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

Oil Vey, surf's up.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret, Original_Intent (#4)

Don't you feel much better now that we have professional actors on this DOOMS_DAY scenario? I wager Original_Intent is already having a nap; confident in knowing that peace, security and tranquility beyond the restoration of the Gulf is already in process. He may have dozed off from his next unsolicited, web authorship piece.

HEY O_I ... hows that hammock?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

He did do the movie, 'Water World;' what more credibility references do you want?

Actually, seeing how he did a baseball movie he would serve mankind better if he came up with a solution to rid the world of the NY Yankees. But hey, I'm a Boston Red Sox fan; so take that opinion with a huge grain of sea salt.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:28:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret, Original_Intent (#6)

... so take that opinion with a huge grain of sea salt.

Those could be the "GOOD_OLD_DAYS" now. According to Original_Intent, we are looking at the end of the world, now. O_I, often suggests that only prayer remains to save us.

Maybe these are the days of the apocalypse as others suggest? And 2012? Where is Rasputin and Edgar Cayce in all of this?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:34:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

Well, George Carlin used to blast us enviros as egotistical 'The sky is falling' types contending that the world and nature is more resilient then we think.

As a whale and dolphin activist I bet you can imagine why this spill has enraged and stressed me greatly. But I try to remember that only by listening to the other side of an issue can I best temper any perspective on anything happening in the world.

Carlin was wise, and nature and the world are more resilient and forgiving then people like me often give it credit for, but I worry we are pushing the envelope into doom and disaster beyond any degree we have ever seem.

He's a toast for January one, Twenty Thirteen; may we all be here alive to raise our collective glasses as the ball falls at Times Square to herald it's start.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:49:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret (#8)

While I agree the planet is resilient and has its own built in self correcting systems if you knock a system far enough out of equilibrium you get unpredictable results - it is likely to gyrate through a range of states and at this point none of them are pretty. The level of enviromental damage this spill is already doing, combined with the estimates that it could run for another 2 to 4 years, presents a set of unpalatable prospects. The Gulf IS going to be a dead zone for the foreseeable future - a minimum of ten years and more likely 30 to 50 before it ceases to be an issue. The human toll is incalculable at this point, but along with the death of the Gulf Fishery, will go the tourist trade, and a way of life that has endured effectively since before the American Revolution. Cajun Country is going to become dead country, and the affects of the toxic gas releases, along with the toxic and mutagenic properties of the Corexit 9527 oil dispersant (used unconscionably by Bee Pee to camouflage the scale of the oil release), is going to result in an increased rate of cancers and shortened life spans for anyone in the affected zone.

I don't think people are yet coming to grips with what the fiendish and horrific results of this release will be. The Nooze Media is running full scale PsyOps and the corrupt government under Commissar Soetoro conniving with Bee Pee to keep the public unaware means the full impact is not yet in the public consciousness. There is no comparable event in recorded history. This society, and its culture, will be profoundly changed by this "event", and in ways that are difficult to foresee in their entirety.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-20   14:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#12) (Edited)

There is no comparable event in recorded history. This society, and its culture, will be profoundly changed by this "event", and in ways that are difficult to foresee in their entirety.

Given present knowledge and understanding perhaps.

But not necessarily should the complete intelligence humanity has, or can access, become deployed.

The biggest problem I see, is that people with limited knowledge and understanding, hold onto positions where they prevent those with more capabilities from making positive changes. Like the idiotic bureaucrats who dismissed Kevin Costner's $25 million inventions developed over 10 years designed specifically to clean up messes like this one. Or the political and intel hacks who thought there would be no consequences from allowing Afghanistan to devolve into anarchy and chaos after losing millions of their own people to protect American interests.

Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   15:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AGAviator (#35)

Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.

In the meantime we have a problem which is going to cause untold misery and hundreds of billions in damage, with likely another hundred billion, or more, to mitigate the damage.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-20   15:33:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Original_Intent (#36)

Some dead zones have already been mitigated and reversed, including but not limited to government programs.

Dead Zones

Dead zones are reversible. The Black Sea dead zone, previously the largest dead zone in the world, largely disappeared between 1991 and 2001 after fertilizers became too costly to use following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the demise of centrally planned economies in Eastern and Central Europe. Fishing has again become a major economic activity in the region.[8]

While the Black Sea "cleanup" was largely unintentional and involved a drop in hard-to-control fertilizer usage, 8] the U.N. has advocated other cleanups by reducing large industrial emissions.[From 1985 to 2000, the North Sea dead zone had nitrogen reduced by 37% when policy efforts by countries on the Rhine River reduced sewage and industrial emissions of nitrogen into the water. Other cleanups have taken place along the Hudson River [9] and San Francisco Bay.[1]

Four Natural Solutions to Oil Spill Cleanup
3) Paul Stamets' Mushroom Solution for Oil Spills
Mushrooms
The Mushroom Solution TED Video takes you to a world authority on mushrooms Paul Stamets and the mushroom’s ability to help us clean up our environment. In the middle of the TED video, you will see a picture of a small mountain of mushrooms that grew off of a combination of petrochemicals, drastically reducing its petroleum count, while building the beginnings of a dynamic ecosystem. 4) Hey, What About Hay?
Video Hay

Here is a revealing, simple approach from the practical side of farmers. Hay tossed onto the oil in the ocean will attract the oil to itself (remember, oil and water don't mix, but hay and oil become a bonded pair), and continue to float on the surface until large seaweed harvesters come by and pick it up. It can then be delivered to a future forest, inoculated with mycelia from mushrooms which would feed off of the oil and convert it to food.

The resulting biomass will pick up some of the diverse flora and fauna of the region as seeds are delivered to the pile by the local birds and animals. Trees can be planted nearby, and based on known evidence, one of the most lush forest areas in the state will soon follow.

Summary

Bottom line is that natural answers already exist - and they are more effective, and more powerful, than the chemical attempts. Of course, vested interests also exist which prefer you do not know of these natural measures, but their world is rapidly crumbling before our eyes, and an entire world focused on cooperation for the betterment of the whole is now emerging from the shadows. The solutions are simpler than we think. The question is, are we, as a society, going to mandate that these natural solutions, or others like them, be implemented now?

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   15:58:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#45. To: AGAviator (#41)

Helping O_I understand ANYTHING is about as worthwhile as reading his speculative conjectures from obscene sources.

O_I claims we are doomed.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20 16:09:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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