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Title: Costner's 'dream' machines debut
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://fieldnotes.msnbc.msn.com/_ne ... -costners-dream-machines-debut
Published: Jun 20, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-06-20 11:20:15 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 777
Comments: 79

Hollywood star Kevin Costner debuted Friday in his supporting role as a Gulf oil-spill fighter.

News agencies reported on the actor's premiere staged at the docks in the oil industry supply port of Port Fourchon in southern Louisiana as BP began deploying 32 of his "dream" machines to separate oil from water. Costner's backdrop was an oil-finding barge with his machines mounted on the deck.

"At its core, my dream, this machine, was designed ... to give us a fighting chance to fight back the oil that's got us by the throat," Costner told reporters.

"When you are in a fight, anybody knows you go to confront it right where it is. You don't wait for it to come to your door," the actor said.

Costner's company, Ocean Therapy Solutions, signed a contract with BP to provide 32 units expected to work in the next 60 days.

BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles would not disclose financial details.

Costner said each machine, called a V20, can separate 210,000 gallons of oily water a day.

Costner, best-known for such films as "Dances with Wolves" and "Waterworld," stressed he was no overnight oil spill sensation. He has been trying to employ the technology designed by his company for the past 17 years, and has invested more than $20 million of his own money in its development.

The technology was developed two decades ago by a researcher at the Idaho National Laboratory by scientist David Meikrantz, who initially sought to use the machines to separate the components of nuclear substances.

In 1993, INL licensed the technology to Ocean Therapy Solutions, a company owned by Costner.

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One more solution is on the way for the spill.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   12:18:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

...the spill.

To paraphrase Wilford Brimley's character in the movie Absence of Malice:

"A spill? Last time there was a "spill" like this, Noah had to build hisself an ark."

Esso  posted on  2010-06-20   12:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

We are going to die!

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:00:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oil Vey, surf's up.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't you feel much better now that we have professional actors on this DOOMS_DAY scenario? I wager Original_Intent is already having a nap; confident in knowing that peace, security and tranquility beyond the restoration of the Gulf is already in process. He may have dozed off from his next unsolicited, web authorship piece.

HEY O_I ... hows that hammock?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He did do the movie, 'Water World;' what more credibility references do you want?

Actually, seeing how he did a baseball movie he would serve mankind better if he came up with a solution to rid the world of the NY Yankees. But hey, I'm a Boston Red Sox fan; so take that opinion with a huge grain of sea salt.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:28:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

... so take that opinion with a huge grain of sea salt.

Those could be the "GOOD_OLD_DAYS" now. According to Original_Intent, we are looking at the end of the world, now. O_I, often suggests that only prayer remains to save us.

Maybe these are the days of the apocalypse as others suggest? And 2012? Where is Rasputin and Edgar Cayce in all of this?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   13:34:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, George Carlin used to blast us enviros as egotistical 'The sky is falling' types contending that the world and nature is more resilient then we think.

As a whale and dolphin activist I bet you can imagine why this spill has enraged and stressed me greatly. But I try to remember that only by listening to the other side of an issue can I best temper any perspective on anything happening in the world.

Carlin was wise, and nature and the world are more resilient and forgiving then people like me often give it credit for, but I worry we are pushing the envelope into doom and disaster beyond any degree we have ever seem.

He's a toast for January one, Twenty Thirteen; may we all be here alive to raise our collective glasses as the ball falls at Times Square to herald it's start.

Ferret  posted on  2010-06-20   13:49:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

While I agree the planet is resilient and has its own built in self correcting systems if you knock a system far enough out of equilibrium you get unpredictable results - it is likely to gyrate through a range of states and at this point none of them are pretty. The level of enviromental damage this spill is already doing, combined with the estimates that it could run for another 2 to 4 years, presents a set of unpalatable prospects. The Gulf IS going to be a dead zone for the foreseeable future - a minimum of ten years and more likely 30 to 50 before it ceases to be an issue. The human toll is incalculable at this point, but along with the death of the Gulf Fishery, will go the tourist trade, and a way of life that has endured effectively since before the American Revolution. Cajun Country is going to become dead country, and the affects of the toxic gas releases, along with the toxic and mutagenic properties of the Corexit 9527 oil dispersant (used unconscionably by Bee Pee to camouflage the scale of the oil release), is going to result in an increased rate of cancers and shortened life spans for anyone in the affected zone.

I don't think people are yet coming to grips with what the fiendish and horrific results of this release will be. The Nooze Media is running full scale PsyOps and the corrupt government under Commissar Soetoro conniving with Bee Pee to keep the public unaware means the full impact is not yet in the public consciousness. There is no comparable event in recorded history. This society, and its culture, will be profoundly changed by this "event", and in ways that are difficult to foresee in their entirety.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-20   14:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is no comparable event in recorded history. This society, and its culture, will be profoundly changed by this "event", and in ways that are difficult to foresee in their entirety.

Given present knowledge and understanding perhaps.

But not necessarily should the complete intelligence humanity has, or can access, become deployed.

The biggest problem I see, is that people with limited knowledge and understanding, hold onto positions where they prevent those with more capabilities from making positive changes. Like the idiotic bureaucrats who dismissed Kevin Costner's $25 million inventions developed over 10 years designed specifically to clean up messes like this one. Or the political and intel hacks who thought there would be no consequences from allowing Afghanistan to devolve into anarchy and chaos after losing millions of their own people to protect American interests.

Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   15:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Even if technologies to clean up dead zones currently don't exist, or aren't currently suitable, there's no reason why some can't be developed. Once the fools are removed from blocking progress, new methods can be developed and deployed.

In the meantime we have a problem which is going to cause untold misery and hundreds of billions in damage, with likely another hundred billion, or more, to mitigate the damage.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-20   15:33:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In the meantime we have a problem which is going to cause untold misery and hundreds of billions in damage, with likely another hundred billion, or more, to mitigate the damage.

Why don't you get off your ass, you stupid FUCK and realize that modern technology is stretched to the limit to satisfy world demands for oil. Then and only then can you be part of the solutions as opposed to being hamstrumg begging GOD in a word of prayer.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20   15:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In an exclusive interview, Ken Price, a 14 year oil industry veteran, talked about his experience in the industry and his contempt for the failure of B P to cap the Deepwater Horizon spill and the environmental ramifications.

DJW: What back ground and experience do you have in the oil industry?

KP: I started out with a major oil company right after I earned my BS degree in Mechanical Engineering from Berkeley, Ca. and worked in the commercial marketing and engineering division for fourteen years. I spent a great deal of time around large stationary engines used in power generation and manufacturing.

DJW: Have you witnessed corruption first hand in the oil industry?

KP: One time, on a visit to New York, my group got to tour the main office (of oil corporation)and meet some of the higher ups, and it was during this visit that I heard them boast about the actual number and occurrences of oil shortage predictions in the United States. My memory went back to about 1972, the now infamous Arab Oil Embargo. Their memories went back to the early 1900's, with additional ones occurring about every ten years. They freely admitted that it was through the public illusion "of a finite amount of oil being present on the planet", like only a certain number of diamonds in South Africa that they could convince the public to pay a decent profit for it. Otherwise, it would be like charging for water.

Today, I believe we should get on with much more efficient and non polluting resources like crystal hydrogen, hydrogen from water, and a host of others, electric cars for example we could produce in weeks, that are by today's standards a thousand times better than petroleum.

DJW: You were open to being interviewed, because you said the Deepwater Horizon set off a “primeval planetary defense system” in you. Could you elaborate on that feeling?

KP: The arrogance that I see displayed here by the oil companies, the fact that they are willing to take chances with our ocean, just seems out of line with any fellow human beings who plan on living into the future. How did they ever decide for themselves to take such chances? And for what? There are so many other places where they have already discovered oil and are simply not using it. Drilling beneath the seas, especially where it is so deep is another dumb idea, just like requiring all gas stations to put their tanks underground so now we can't see the leaks into the soil. So, let's just say that there are some unbelievably stupid things being allowed to happen.

DJW: You said the oil industry is very corrupt and you have not fought against it due to the feeling of being powerless. What made you decide to speak up now?

KP: I said the oil industry is as corrupt as the statement "petroleum is a non-renewable energy source". Everyone would agree that all plant and animal life comes from a combination of elements on earth in conjunction with sunshine as the source of energy.

DJW: Are you saying the best kept secret by the oil industry is that oil can be synthesized and it can be a “renewable source”?

KP: Yes, we can make oil ourselves using algae and sunlight. Keep in mind, the most efficient solar collector is the plant. Every plant on this planet is thus a very efficient solar collector. We just simply need to embrace the concept. One other note I want to add is the horrendous volumes of oil it takes to provide the energy needs of the planet. We spend countless dollars on trucks, tanks, pipelines, oil tankers, ports, refineries, etc. Isn't it time to take a look at a more efficient form of energy, one that is more compact or dense so-to-speak? Can a 500 hp car run on a cup of hydrogen crystals for a year? It is possible.

DJW: Lamar McKay, head of BP testified before the Senate on Tuesday and he said, “no amount of resources will be spared to clean up the oil spill and mitigate the damages”. Do you believe him?

KP: Anyone who would trust an oil company executive or spokesman today could probably be declared legally insane. I mean think about it just one moment and ask yourself when have they ever told us the truth? They always under-report the size of a spill and the danger to animals and workers. In the case of the Exxon Valdez it has been 20 years and only 1/10 of the claims have been handled. Less than 4% of the oil was recovered. Ask anyone associated with fishing in Prince William Sound and they will tell you that the mess was never cleaned up.

DJW: BP representatives have repeatedly said, “we will pay all ˜legitimate claims”. Do you think the repeated use of the “legitimate” forecasts that their attorneys will come up with evasive definitions of “legitimate”?

KP: This well is leaking upwards of 1.2 million gallons a day; these are BP's own figures. They acknowledge that if the valve breaks that it could be upwards of five million gallons a day. So the idea that they will cover all legitimate claims is a physical impossibility.

DJW: Environmentalists are calling for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s resignation, because he didn’t reform the Mineral Management Service. If he had done so, safety regulations would have been reinstated to the level with the rest of the world and the explosion could have been avoided. Is that a fair assessment?

KP: It is a very partial assessment. Someone high in the Bush Administration approved the rig knowing that it was not going to have an acoustic blowout preventer. Then there's the question of who approved a floating type of platform in the first place, one that relies on diesel powered thruster engines in conjunction with a GPS positioning system to "hold" it in one place above the well. Most people were taken unawares that such a thing had ever been approved. Most believe that this platform was anchored to the bottom when it was actually held in place by a non-failsafe system. This is an idea that should never have gotten by anyone who had ever experienced a hurricane at sea.

DJW: Do you have any other examples of corruption and greed by oil companies?

KP: I'll give you another example. The plastic bag, a new "invention" brought to us via the petrochemical industry which replaced biodegradable paper. The plastic bag is not biodegradable but yet they are able to market it as a "disposable". How they get away with this gives you some indication of the lobbying power this conglomerate has. The fact that the act of converting paper to plastic requires an increase in petroleum production clearly contradicts their statements that they are trying to find ways to conserve energy and reduce oil dependence. Similar conversions have occurred with packaging, furniture, home building materials, clothing and a zillion manufactured items that are now (poor quality) junk by yesterday’s standards.

Ken Price considers himself to be a kind of “planetary watchdog” and the world could use many more just like him.

***Delilah Jean Williams 2010

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-20   16:04:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#43. To: Original_Intent (#42)

In an exclusive interview, Ken Price, a 14 year oil industry veteran, talked about his experience in the industry and his contempt for the failure of B P to cap the Deepwater Horizon spill and the environmental ramifications.

WOE IS US. WOE IS US. WOES IS US.

Where was this FUCKER 14 years ago? What are they charlatans and gas-bags like you?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-20 16:07:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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