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Title: Peter Ward on the Gulf Disaster on Coast to Coast in May
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Published: Jun 20, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-20 15:01:40 by christine
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Ward was on CtoC last night, but the youtubes have not yet been posted. I'll post them when they are. In the meantime, here's Part 1 of his last interview from May. You can access Parts 2-8 on YT.
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#1. To: christine, Original_Intent (#0)
How come EVERY Tom, Dick and harry comes out now? Where is 4um's O_I to help us other than is mere "prayer" or "look up into the sky for guidance" mantra method?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
you're being annoyingly dopey! we'll just see who has the last laugh or tear, more apropos, in this case.
I see you are becoming prejudiced on this issue. Are you sucking up to the Bilderberg mantra or the CFR based upon the "talent" of O_I to string to polysyabylls together in a complete sentence even if the crap is meaningless? Look back on 4um, I was the FIRST to discuss this BP issue. Why? Because BIG_PIE_HOLE_GLUTTONOUS_GAS_BAGS, such as O_I don't understand that the population levels of our planet are killing it. He denies it. He blames the tragedy not on the core issues but on marketing skills and government. Sorry you feel that way. But I am correct in perspective. Your pal (O_I) sucks in his attempt to understand the physics and trauma of over population concerning human growth.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Nostradumbass, this devastating oil leak is due to incompetence and greed on the part of a few individuals in BP and the U.S. govt. It has nothing to do with how many people live on the planet. You're so dumb.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Nostradumbass is again predicting the end of the world from his ill conceived and uncritically interiorized misinformation on population? Sigh! It is like listening to a stuck groove on a bad Children's Record.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
wud itx: Where b' me gubermint to help me? Iwant me oil to fertilize me fields; I want me gubermint to help hab me cheap oil to maks tires and rods and my wibes porpume to make her all nice for me to FUCK. Dies lying bastards in gubermint and industry won't gib me wat i want.... woe id me.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
You are painfully lost, delusional and outta control. You'd better leave my wife out of this. I feel sorry for you.
We agree on your correct analysis in perspective. We have voted you to be our 1st attempt at population control. We must ask you to kill yourself for humanities sake. Thank you.
YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !
the population levels of our planet are killing it. lol....the alpha, who no doubt will also be the omega of the internet. Yeah, if we could just kill billions and billions of people, then everything would be okay. Pick your poisen Bucky. How shall we get rid of several billion to stop glowbull warming, solve peak oil and save de planet?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Thank you. LOL!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
More FUCKING speculation. I never advanced that idea. You asswipes that think the world is infinite based upon gluttony and fucking need to realize that the technologies accommodating your needs is just a symptom. World population overgrowth has lead to these serious issues. The lack of natural resources is factual and REAL. And remove your fantastick abiotic, looney-tunes, pipe-dream; it is just a figment of someone's over-hyped imaginative process akin to O_I.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
He does have a grasp on the central premise of the problem. Without overpopulation we never would have the market size to justify drilling in the Gulf. I sure ain't for voluntary extinction to save the Earth as some of the more extremist green anarchists are; but I see the extinction danger in ignoring a problem like overpopulation. And often overpopulation is attacked because the powers that be want the capital resource of laborers. And they don't just want enough to do the work, they want enough so people have to fight one another for inadequate jobs. That keeps wages down, and people become so intent on fighting and scapegoating one another, they ignore the rich and powerful who engineer things in such a way they get most of the pie to the slivers workers get. Our leaders deserve scorn and the boot, and in some cases the rope for ignoring the sacred responsibility every single species on this planet has to respect, which is to maintain their size that has them living within their means. Unbridled growth is the way of cancer cells. And like cancer, we as a species are so big a hog on worldly resources we endanger the life of the larger body that is planet Earth.
Nonsense. This oil spill or leak or whatever you want to call it has nothing to do with how many people live in the world. The blame is entirely the fault of those that drilled the well and those that allowed them to. They could have drilled on land. You're thinking of this is seriously flawed. Market size DID NOT justify drilling that well.
Indeed there are other factors such as creating a market for the raw material gathered from oil wells involved. I merely point out that regardless of co factors, without the shear numbers of people wanting the means to burn or use oil, drilling in the gulf would be throwing good money after bad. I'm not interested in scapegoating the problem; just in understanding some of the key dynamics creating the situation needed to make this disaster happen.
I would deeply love to see us not drilling for oil at all; on land or under the sea. I believe that as deeply and with the same degree of emotion many lend to their religious persuasions.
The amount of people alive and the Gulf oil disaster are coincidence. It's not scapegoating to put the blame where the blame is deserved.
I'd rather they use oil than cut down trees.
I must beg to differ. The justification for drilling in the Gulf, particularly at this depth, has nothing whatsoever to do with population. It has everything to do with money and control. We have large oil deposits, in easily accessible areas, that have been sealed off and exploration/production prevented. It is even possible that the Gulf oil field is so vast that it extends inland and would allow for easier and more cost effective access. As well there is Gull Island in Alaska which has been capped and kept out of production - with deposits reputed to be on par with Saudi Arabia. We do not have an oil shortage we have an oil oligopoly that sees its maximum profit in controlling the flow of oil just as deBeers controls the plentiful supply of diamonds. However, I think it a virtual certainty that technology already exists, and is kept suppressed, that would obviate the need for 90%+ of the Petroleum we now use. You are right that a particular small group of hyper-wealthy individuals (centered in the Banking District of the City of London) now effectively control the planet, but that IS the problem not overpopulation. While my personal preference would be for a stable or somewhat smaller world population that is not currently in the cards short of the massive extermination programs that our hyper-wealthy ruling psychotics wish to implement. In any event we have sufficient resources to sustain a population double what we have now - easily. I don't want that, but we do have the ability to do that and sustain humanity in a decent standard of living. It is an interesting statistic that in developed countries with high living standards that population is decreasing naturally, and over time the population of the planet would decline to a reasonable level by raising everyone's living standards thus reducing the manic drive to produce progeny to propagate the species. Population continues to increase only in the Third World and that is a reaction to the low life expectancy and high infant mortality rate. Reduce that pressure and you reduce the drive to proliferate like Rabbits. Equating humanity to cancer cells is an apples versus aardvarks argument. The two are not an identity and it is a stretch to create a simile. Cancer cells are non-sentient and do not create their own environment. To attempt to equate them with humanity simply expresses a viewpoint which discounts all of the good humanity has done and has the capacity to do.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
me naime id wud it tiz.. dats mi very own quote frm da pit od di stomack to da heart. yup, itz al min.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Yeah, if we could just kill billions and billions of people, then everything would be okay. How shall we go about this necessary extermination, Buck?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Nonsense. This oil spill or leak or whatever you want to call it has nothing to do with how many people live in the world. The blame is entirely the fault of those that drilled the well and those that allowed them to. Exactomundo.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Bring on the Bilderbergers and CFR and the ebil guvenmet! I need a laff, this Sunday from a genuine looney-tunes speaker.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
They could have drilled on land. You're thinking of this is seriously flawed. Market size DID NOT justify drilling that well. Excellent post, what it. Most excellent indeed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Managing people in a way that empowers overpopulation is necessary to justify increasing oil production. I have been to Alaska, and I do not support the impact on those fragile ecosystems oil extraction causes anymore then I support oil extraction from ocean and sea beds. And because of war - and remember lack of oil killed German war ability in WW II in a major way - planners are always going to serve projected logistic needs by designating reserves. I see that as a hard thing to prevent. As for what education and quality of life does to the birth rate, that is Sociology 101 that any population stabilizes - or drops - as the mean standard of living and education of any people anywhere goes up. Studies of how this is so are very well done and support the argument to make people more interested in husbanding their time and capital to credentialize and learn how to run a sophisticated and well managed society that does more then whelp enough farm hands for extraction of resources to ship to other countries, or do subsistent farming. You don't get any argument from me there. I have taken to much sociology at LCC and the UO to know otherwise. But the development curve worldwide toward the end of having all countries developed and educated to that point is too slow to use as a rudder to steer from the iceberg overpopulation has the U.S.S. Earth steering toward. I would have to respectfully disagree about the carrying load of the Earth you have, but the devil is always in the details, and that is always going to be a hotly debated point of order. And finally, the cancer analogy was only an analogy; not a general denigration of people in general. Analogies are just a tool used to help explain a point of view.
#2. To: buckeroo (#1)
#3. To: christine (#2)
annoyingly dopey!
#4. To: buckeroo, christine, Original_Intent (#3)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#5. To: Nostradumbass, christine (#3)
#6. To: wudidiz, christine, Nostradumbass, all (#4)
#7. To: wudidiz (#4)
#8. To: buckeroo (#7)
my wibes porpume to make her all nice for me to FUCK.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#9. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#3)
But I am correct in perspective. Your pal (O_I) sucks in his attempt to understand the physics and trauma of over population concerning human growth.
#10. To: buckeroo (#3)
I was the FIRST to discuss this BP issue
#11. To: noone222, Nostradumbass (#9)
We have voted you to be our 1st attempt at population control. We must ask you to kill yourself for humanities sake.
#12. To: abraxas (#10)
Yeah, if we could just kill billions and billions of people, then everything would be okay.
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#14. To: Ferret, Original_Intent (#13)
He does have a grasp on the central premise of the problem. Without overpopulation we never would have the market size to justify drilling in the Gulf.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
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#17. To: Ferret (#15)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#18. To: Ferret (#16)
I would deeply love to see us not drilling for oil at all; on land or under the sea.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#19. To: Ferret (#13)
#20. To: wudidiz (#17)
The amount of people alive and the Gulf oil disaster are coincidence.
#21. To: buckeroo (#12)
World population overgrowth has lead to these serious issues.
#22. To: wudidiz, Ferret, all (#14)
He does have a grasp on the central premise of the problem. Without overpopulation we never would have the market size to justify drilling in the Gulf.
#23. To: All (#19)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#24. To: Original_Intent (#19)
It has everything to do with money and control.
#25. To: wudidiz (#14)
Nonsense. This oil spill or leak or whatever you want to call it has nothing to do with how many people live in the world. The blame is entirely the fault of those that drilled the well and those that allowed them to.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#26. To: Original_Intent (#19)
"I must beg to differ. The justification for drilling in the Gulf, particularly at this depth, has nothing whatsoever to do with population. It has everything to do with money and control."
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