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Title: World Net Daily has some BREAKING NEWS on ELIGIBILITY
Source: World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/
Published: Jun 20, 2010
Author: WND
Post Date: 2010-06-20 21:27:55 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 6041
Comments: 175

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#6. To: Itistoolate (#0)

As usual the WND fruitcakes miss the point.

The individual on the clip says explicitly at the end that Obama was a legal US citizen at the time of birth, and the objections to his Presidency are based on racial, ethnic, and cultural bigotry.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   22:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AGAviator (#6)

The individual on the clip says explicitly at the end that Obama was a legal US citizen at the time of birth

He also said Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, a fact born out by Obama's refusal to produce a long-form birth certificate. Of course he can't produce that which doesn't exist. He is a fraud.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-20   22:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: James Deffenbach, buckeroo (#7)

born [sic] out by Obama's refusal to produce a long-form birth certificate

Being a legal US citizen from birth trumps producing documents satisfactory to k00ks.

Furthermore any alleged reasons for claimed absence of such k00kaccepted forms must themselves be proven - and not merely the products of conjecture by someone who can only say that he didn't personally see them himself.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   23:30:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AGAviator (#22)

Being a legal US citizen from birth trumps producing documents satisfactory to k00ks.

Furthermore any alleged reasons for claimed absence of such k00kaccepted forms must themselves be proven - and not merely the products of conjecture by someone who can only say that he didn't personally see them himself.

You're not quite right in the head. But I have been knowing that since my days posting on John Deere's forum. Answer me this, if you can. Do innocent people spend upwards of 2 MILLION dollars to hide the document that would prove their claims? Sane people wouldn't. So I will ask you what I asked another one of Obama's sycophants. Is it your argument that your hero is insane?

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-21   6:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach, buckeroo (#25) (Edited)

Do innocent people spend upwards of 2 MILLION dollars to hide the document that would prove their claims? Sane people wouldn't.

The claim he has spent $2 million on this matter is pure k00k$hit.

As I state above, every single case has been dismissed out of hand without even proceeding to discovery or interrogatories.

All his lawyers have had to do is tell the courts the reasons the courts have no standing, and in all cases the courts have completely agreed within days or weeks. The only other time they have to spend is ~ possibly ~ listen to the judges swat down one idiotic Birfer argument after another.

So I will ask you what I asked another one of Obama's sycophants. Is it your argument that your hero is insane.

No, my argument is that you're insane for believing such a stupid claim. However just for laffs let's ~ momentarily ~ presume that telling courts to dismiss cases, which the courts then swiftly do, does cost lots of money for the winnning defendants. How much more money did the losing accusers spend with their windbag arguments which get swatted down right and left, then denied on appeal, than the lawyers who simply state "The court has no standing because of this, this, and this?"

'Elebenty billion?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

pwned.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   8:41:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AGAviator (#30)

You're full of it Obama worshiper. If I cared enough to take the time to find it, there was an article some time ago on LP that stated that he had spent close to a million and that was from official sources. And it has almost doubled since then. But I don't care enough to waste the time because even if I did you would have some other excuse/lie for your hero. You Obama sycophants make me want to puke.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-21   8:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#31) (Edited)

If I cared enough to take the time to find it, there was an article some time ago on LP that stated that he had spent close to a million and that was from official sources. And it has almost doubled since then.

World Nut Daily is not an ***official source*** by any stretch of the imagination.

Wiki: Obama Conspiracy Theories

Some of the conspiracy theorists, such as Farah, have alleged that Obama has decided "to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions."[119]

Farah's WorldNetDaily has since upped the claimed expenditure to $1.7 million, on the basis of the Obama presidential campaign paying out that much since the election to the law firm of Perkins Coie.

However, as Mother Jones magazine has pointed out, the campaign has had to employ lawyers to wind down its post-election operations and meet campaign finance law requirements.[120]

At least one attorney representing Obama in the litigation has stated that he is working without pay. [121] Other attorneys interviewed by Mother Jones have stated that the "birther" lawsuits have been so weak that they have been easily resolved with "extremely minimal" monetary costs.

pwned

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   9:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AGAviator (#34)

Amen.

We have here someone who worked in the elections office, whose knowledge of birth certificates was very sketchy. The Hawaii Health Dept itself says that it no longer issues the long form, that the short form that Obama made public is the only replacement b/c it now issues; this is primarily because of fairly recent privacy laws, as the long forms in some states asked all sorts of personal and intimate details about the parents. Hawaii law requires nothing less than a court order to produce anything other than that short form. In addition, both Honolulu newspapers reported his birth within ten days. There was even a newspaper interview with one of his elementary school teachers who remembered talking to the very doctor who attended his birth. We have more thorough documentation of Obama's birth than of most other presidents!

The Director of Hawaii's Health Dept has attested that the Obama's b/c, which says he was born in Honolulu and that the birth was registered within two business days, is the genuine article. Even the Republican Governor of Hawaii says the same. Hillary and McCain undoubtedly had professionals investigating that issue and couldn't come up with anything. In a court case in the District of Columbia, both the US Dept of State (which is responsible for passports) and the Dept of Homeland Security (which inherited responsibility for immigration & naturalization from the DOJ) officially said that Obama was not born outside the US, that he is a natural born citizen. No one has produced legally acceptable evidence to the contrary.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-21   10:07:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Shoonra (#35)

Shoonra, can't you crawl back in your rat hole and spare us the leftist propaganda you spew on a daily basis. If I wanted to read your crap, I'd buy a newspaper.

How come I get the impression I could kick your worthless, treasonous ass with one hand tied behind my back?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   10:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Flintlock, Shoonra (#36)

Leftist propaganda you spew on a daily basis

Like telling a bunch of Birfer k00ks their lawsuits have no merits no matter how many times they go into one court after another to get dis-missed?

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   10:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AGAviator (#37)

k00ks

Or trying to convince a statist st00ge (like yourself) of the truth

Anyone who thinks obama is a legit US citizen has rocks in their little empty head, again like you

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   11:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Flintlock, Shoonra, buckeye (#38)

You k00ks have never understood you aren't the final arbiters of citizenship, the Constitution, or any other matters.

It is the collective voice of the American people, taken as a whole, and the institutions they validate.

You shamelessly violate the most fundamental principle of American justice: Innocent until proven guilty.

Since you're totally unable to prove your contentions, which a real American would be obligated to do, instead you make a lot of noise, call a lot of names, demand proof while giving none of your own, paint yourselves into a corner by endlessly repeating disproven assertions, and do a real good job making anybody opposed to the status quo look like a blithering idiot.

That's the real "false front op," going on here.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   11:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: AGAviator (#39)

Blah, blah, blah K00K, k00k, K00k..........

Hey numbnuts,

JUST SHOW ME THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   18:50:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Flintlock (#51)

Hey numbnuts,

JUST SHOW ME THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

Hey k00ksucker.

You got as much business seeing his BC, as you have seeing his weenie to assure yourself he's a man.

Deal with it, fool.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   19:15:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: AGAviator (#52)

got as much business seeing his BC, as you have

Were you born that stupid or has all that Nigerian spunk that's been pumped up your ass gotten to your brain?

Any idiot (except you) knows that you have to be a natural born American to be POTUS. obama has failed to prove his eligibility.

Now, all he has to do to clear this up is to:

SHOW US HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE

But he won't because he was born in Kenya. On top of that, any US citizenship he might have had was lost when he became an Indonesian citizen under his real name which is Barry Soetoro.

seeing his weenie

You'd like that, wouldn't you.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   22:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Flintlock (#97)

Nigerian spunk that's been pumped up your ass

Let me put it again into language you can understand, keyclacking fruitcake.

You have no more chance of seeing Obama's documents - that have already been vetted by dozens of qualified personnel - than you have of taking a peek and a feel inside Obama's shorts. The matter has been resolved and there are not even any new lawsuits or favorable outcomes of old.

SHOW US HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE

You have as much chance of seeing his BC as you have seeing his organ. Neither are any of your business. You might be able to pay someone for a fake picture. Deal with it. No one else GAS.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   22:49:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: AGAviator (#98)

Let me put it again into language you can understand, keyclacking fruitcake.

Let me put it in language you can understand you turd guzzling shill

Nobody, I mean NOBODY with a brain believes your bullshit. I don't care how many times the MSM covers for his commies ass or how many paid stooges like you they send out to spam the net

Bary Soetoro is a fraud, a pretender and a traitor, and things like you are the lowest form of verminous scum on Earth

a peek and a feel inside Obama's shorts

Your fantasy not mine, loser.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   23:03:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Flintlock (#99)

Nobody, I mean NOBODY with a brain believes your bullshit.

Really?

How many cases have you Birfers won out of the 60-some you've filed?

Is Oily going to prevail on her appeal of $20,000 sanctions imposed by a GA judge? What about the CA State Bar investigation of her for filing forgeries with a court and suborning perjury? Think she'll still have a license in a few years?

Why did the Republican Party officially separate themselves from Oily running for CA Secretary of State?

Lissen, NOBODY. ***Nobody*** cares about BA's BC any more except lost-cause losers. Obama is President, he'll serve out his term, he's crashing and burning, but at least he's 50% brain capable instead of being 99% brain dead like the rest in Washington.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   23:56:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: AGAviator, Flintlock (#104)

...at least he's 50% brain capable instead of being 99% brain dead like the rest in Washington.

He is at a complete loss without his teleprompter telling him what he thinks. That has become obvious the few times he's had to wing it or it malfunctioned.

More Kool-Aid?

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-22   0:16:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Original_Intent (#108)

More Kool-Aid?

That's what you've been imbibing?

Tell me how McCain spent $1.5 million on his legal fees without paying anything to anyone to fight off McCain BC challenges, yet Obama is supposed to have spent most or all of his own $1.7 million legal fees to pay junior and pro bono lawyers to generate 60-odd memos stating why 60-odd courts didn't have any jurisdiction in 60-odd cases...

Certainly your joofriendly WorldNut Daily source will have copies of itemized billings by attorney, task, rate, and billed hours.

< / snicker>.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-22   1:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: AGAviator (#118) (Edited)

yet Obama

Take your snake oil someplace else, dimwit.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-22   1:40:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Flintlock (#119) (Edited)

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-22   4:29:49 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: AGAviator (#121)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-22   9:22:09 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Flintlock (#126)

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-22   12:26:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: AGAviator (#134)

i didn't know you were a Soebama aficionado.

christine  posted on  2010-06-22   13:04:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: christine (#135) (Edited)

didn't know you were a Soebama aficionado.

I'm not. He's a compromiser who has been sitting back trying to reconcile 2 basically incompatible worldviews - US primacy or USreal primacy, instead of drawing a line and insisting that his party members follow his lead instead of following their own preprogramming.

He also has violated several explicit promises including ending torture, renditions, closing Guantanamo, and he has also expanded Bush/Cheney programs far beyond what those 2 ever dreamed of.

The people I think best describe him are Jon Stewart of the Daily Show Obama - You're Frodo, and Al Qaeda spokeman Adam Gadahn, who less flatteringly calls him "devious, evasive, and serpentine."

That out of the way, as I've said elsewhere he's perhaps 50% brain dead, while just about eveybody else in Washington is 99% brain dead. Meaning he is capable of recognizing he's doing something wrong and changing it if he can muster up the courage to do something his circle won't approve of.

So what's the alternative to getting rid of him, anyway: Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh, Glenn Beck? Palin? Don't see anything out there. Just hear the same old CT's repeated over and over, as if somebody's going to roll the clock back to 2008.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-22   13:24:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: AGAviator (#136)

instead of drawing a line and insisting that his party members follow his lead

His lead being to print & spend more fiat money that all the previous presidents combined?

The man belongs in a cage, and those that support him need a beating.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-22   13:30:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Jethro Tull (#138)

The man belongs in a cage, and those that support him need a beating.

A vicious beating. One that they should have been given long ago. I saw, before I put him on my clown filter, that Aggravator admitted to being a liar lawyer--same thing, really--and it brought to mind Gulliver's Travels and his explanation of the law and lawyers. Here is part of it.

"In pleading, they studiously avoid entering into the merits of the cause; but are loud, violent, and tedious, in dwelling upon all circumstances which are not to the purpose. For instance, in the case already mentioned; they never desire to know what claim or title my adversary has to my cow; but whether the said cow were red or black; her horns long or short; whether the field I graze her in be round or square; whether she was milked at home or abroad; what diseases she is subject to, and the like; after which they consult precedents, adjourn the cause from time to time, and in ten, twenty, or thirty years, come to an issue.

"It is likewise to be observed, that this society has a peculiar cant and jargon of their own, that no other mortal can understand, and wherein all their laws are written, which they take special care to multiply; whereby they have wholly confounded the very essence of truth and falsehood, of right and wrong; so that it will take thirty years to decide, whether the field left me by my ancestors for six generations belongs to me, or to a stranger three hundred miles off.

"In the trial of persons accused for crimes against the state, the method is much more short and commendable: the judge first sends to sound the disposition of those in power, after which he can easily hang or save a criminal, strictly preserving all due forms of law."

Here my master interposing, said, "it was a pity, that creatures endowed with such prodigious abilities of mind, as these lawyers, by the description I gave of them, must certainly be, were not rather encouraged to be instructors of others in wisdom and knowledge." In answer to which I assured his honour, "that in all points out of their own trade, they were usually the most ignorant and stupid generation among us, the most despicable in common conversation, avowed enemies to all knowledge and learning, and equally disposed to pervert the general reason of mankind in every other subject of discourse as in that of their own profession."

Read more: http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/literature/Gulliver-s-Travels-Summary-Analysis-and-Original-Text-by-Chapter-Chapter-5.id-120,pageNum-288.html#ixzz0rbaPLq8Y

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-22   13:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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