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Title: World Net Daily has some BREAKING NEWS on ELIGIBILITY
Source: World Net Daily
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/
Published: Jun 20, 2010
Author: WND
Post Date: 2010-06-20 21:27:55 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 6295
Comments: 175

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#6. To: Itistoolate (#0)

As usual the WND fruitcakes miss the point.

The individual on the clip says explicitly at the end that Obama was a legal US citizen at the time of birth, and the objections to his Presidency are based on racial, ethnic, and cultural bigotry.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   22:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The individual on the clip says explicitly at the end that Obama was a legal US citizen at the time of birth

He also said Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, a fact born out by Obama's refusal to produce a long-form birth certificate. Of course he can't produce that which doesn't exist. He is a fraud.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-20   22:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

born [sic] out by Obama's refusal to produce a long-form birth certificate

Being a legal US citizen from birth trumps producing documents satisfactory to k00ks.

Furthermore any alleged reasons for claimed absence of such k00kaccepted forms must themselves be proven - and not merely the products of conjecture by someone who can only say that he didn't personally see them himself.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-20   23:30:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Being a legal US citizen from birth trumps producing documents satisfactory to k00ks.

Furthermore any alleged reasons for claimed absence of such k00kaccepted forms must themselves be proven - and not merely the products of conjecture by someone who can only say that he didn't personally see them himself.

You're not quite right in the head. But I have been knowing that since my days posting on John Deere's forum. Answer me this, if you can. Do innocent people spend upwards of 2 MILLION dollars to hide the document that would prove their claims? Sane people wouldn't. So I will ask you what I asked another one of Obama's sycophants. Is it your argument that your hero is insane?

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-21   6:23:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do innocent people spend upwards of 2 MILLION dollars to hide the document that would prove their claims? Sane people wouldn't.

The claim he has spent $2 million on this matter is pure k00k$hit.

As I state above, every single case has been dismissed out of hand without even proceeding to discovery or interrogatories.

All his lawyers have had to do is tell the courts the reasons the courts have no standing, and in all cases the courts have completely agreed within days or weeks. The only other time they have to spend is ~ possibly ~ listen to the judges swat down one idiotic Birfer argument after another.

So I will ask you what I asked another one of Obama's sycophants. Is it your argument that your hero is insane.

No, my argument is that you're insane for believing such a stupid claim. However just for laffs let's ~ momentarily ~ presume that telling courts to dismiss cases, which the courts then swiftly do, does cost lots of money for the winnning defendants. How much more money did the losing accusers spend with their windbag arguments which get swatted down right and left, then denied on appeal, than the lawyers who simply state "The court has no standing because of this, this, and this?"

'Elebenty billion?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

pwned.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   8:41:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You're full of it Obama worshiper. If I cared enough to take the time to find it, there was an article some time ago on LP that stated that he had spent close to a million and that was from official sources. And it has almost doubled since then. But I don't care enough to waste the time because even if I did you would have some other excuse/lie for your hero. You Obama sycophants make me want to puke.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-21   8:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If I cared enough to take the time to find it, there was an article some time ago on LP that stated that he had spent close to a million and that was from official sources. And it has almost doubled since then.

World Nut Daily is not an ***official source*** by any stretch of the imagination.

Wiki: Obama Conspiracy Theories

Some of the conspiracy theorists, such as Farah, have alleged that Obama has decided "to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions."[119]

Farah's WorldNetDaily has since upped the claimed expenditure to $1.7 million, on the basis of the Obama presidential campaign paying out that much since the election to the law firm of Perkins Coie.

However, as Mother Jones magazine has pointed out, the campaign has had to employ lawyers to wind down its post-election operations and meet campaign finance law requirements.[120]

At least one attorney representing Obama in the litigation has stated that he is working without pay. [121] Other attorneys interviewed by Mother Jones have stated that the "birther" lawsuits have been so weak that they have been easily resolved with "extremely minimal" monetary costs.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   9:31:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Amen.

We have here someone who worked in the elections office, whose knowledge of birth certificates was very sketchy. The Hawaii Health Dept itself says that it no longer issues the long form, that the short form that Obama made public is the only replacement b/c it now issues; this is primarily because of fairly recent privacy laws, as the long forms in some states asked all sorts of personal and intimate details about the parents. Hawaii law requires nothing less than a court order to produce anything other than that short form. In addition, both Honolulu newspapers reported his birth within ten days. There was even a newspaper interview with one of his elementary school teachers who remembered talking to the very doctor who attended his birth. We have more thorough documentation of Obama's birth than of most other presidents!

The Director of Hawaii's Health Dept has attested that the Obama's b/c, which says he was born in Honolulu and that the birth was registered within two business days, is the genuine article. Even the Republican Governor of Hawaii says the same. Hillary and McCain undoubtedly had professionals investigating that issue and couldn't come up with anything. In a court case in the District of Columbia, both the US Dept of State (which is responsible for passports) and the Dept of Homeland Security (which inherited responsibility for immigration & naturalization from the DOJ) officially said that Obama was not born outside the US, that he is a natural born citizen. No one has produced legally acceptable evidence to the contrary.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-21   10:07:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Shoonra, can't you crawl back in your rat hole and spare us the leftist propaganda you spew on a daily basis. If I wanted to read your crap, I'd buy a newspaper.

How come I get the impression I could kick your worthless, treasonous ass with one hand tied behind my back?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   10:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Leftist propaganda you spew on a daily basis

Like telling a bunch of Birfer k00ks their lawsuits have no merits no matter how many times they go into one court after another to get dis-missed?

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   10:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

k00ks

Or trying to convince a statist st00ge (like yourself) of the truth

Anyone who thinks obama is a legit US citizen has rocks in their little empty head, again like you

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   11:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You k00ks have never understood you aren't the final arbiters of citizenship, the Constitution, or any other matters.

It is the collective voice of the American people, taken as a whole, and the institutions they validate.

You shamelessly violate the most fundamental principle of American justice: Innocent until proven guilty.

Since you're totally unable to prove your contentions, which a real American would be obligated to do, instead you make a lot of noise, call a lot of names, demand proof while giving none of your own, paint yourselves into a corner by endlessly repeating disproven assertions, and do a real good job making anybody opposed to the status quo look like a blithering idiot.

That's the real "false front op," going on here.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   11:50:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The fact that the title of this thread misspells Eligibility doesn't do much to support the notion that the birfers are correct.

So far, birfers have repeatedly fallen down on the job of the producing persuasive evidence: photographs of purported foreign birth certificates - conflicting with each other and also with known history (such as the fact that Mombasa was part of Zanzibar when Obama was born), rumors, opinions of conspicuous non-experts, etc.

Against the birfers, all the evidence I mentioned in a previous message, plus a resolution of the House of Representatives, another from the Hawaiian legislature, and more than ten different court decisions, that Obama was a natural born citizen of the US.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-21   15:18:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Birfers have repeatedly fallen down on the job of the producing persuasive evidence

For one court, Oily Taitz, Birfer Queen Bee, filed a motion for the court to authenticate a forged Kenyan Obama Birf Certificate easily debunked on the Internet.

Also Taitz has some investigation pending before the California Bar, and has been slapped with $20,000 of court costs for filing a frivolous law suit after repeated instructions by the judge to shut her yap.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   16:06:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oily Taitz

If I remember right she's an Israeli dual citizen, isn't she?

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-21   16:54:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oily Taitz

If I remember right she's an Israeli dual citizen, isn't she?

Yes, that's where she gets her double standard of demanding that others provide proof, while she can provide none of her own.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   17:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

that's where she gets her double standard of demanding that others provide proof, while she can provide none of her own.

Oily's job doesn't REQUIRE NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP as a prerequisite for employment. Omaba's DOES. Why is this SO difficult for you to grasp?

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-21   18:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oily's job doesn't REQUIRE NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP as a prerequisite for employment. Omaba's DOES. Why is this SO difficult for you to grasp?

People and institutions have already offered proof and testimoony that Obama is natural born US citizen, including the person on the latest WND Video.

You and Oily have nothing of any substance to rebut that proof and testimony. Instead she and other nitwits scream demands for proof without offering any proof of their own that anything is wrong.

Therefore the proof and testimony already offered will stand, and your charges will be dismissed because you have nothing to prove them.

QED.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-21   19:20:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#57. To: AGAviator (#54)

Therefore the proof and testimony already offered will stand, and your charges will be dismissed because you have nothing to prove them.

What proof? I've not heard of ONE SINGLE PERSON who claims to have seen Obama's original BC. If you know of one, please post the information. I've heard no testimony regarding his orignal BC. It's all testimony about the copy that people CLAIM should be "proof" of his birth. I have my original BC, so it's not TOO much to ask that the POTUS cough one up.

I don't think much of Oily, but I see no reason why Obama can't provide the proof of his qualifications to hold his position.

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-21 19:25:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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