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Title: World Net Daily has some BREAKING NEWS on ELIGIBILITY
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Published: Jun 20, 2010
Author: WND
Post Date: 2010-06-20 21:27:55 by Itistoolate
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#60. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#58)
Tommy, he ignores that his wife states his "home country" is Kenya.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Who else used to use that word "KOOK" all the time? Why I do believe it was BeAChooser. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I bet I have posted this half a dozen times but for the benefit of the Obots I will post it again. Of course they will say Manchelle was on drugs or lying or something. I guess his Kenyan grandmother was lying when she said he was born in the little village where she lives too. And more: And more:
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. First Logical Fallacy: "You Birferk00k idiots shamelessly violate the most basic premise of Constitutional and American jurisprudence: A man is innocent until proven guilty, and all charges must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt." Lets see, we have Loaded Words, Argumentum Ad Hominem, and False Analogy. A. "BiferkOOk idiots". Argumentum Ad Hominem Loaded Words. In other words since you are unable to refute the facts, which ARE facts, you resort to name calling and ridicule to divert from the FACT that you have no valid counter-argument. Your "argument" differs in no essential way from saying "anyone who questions the magnificence of the sacred Obamessiah is a heretic". Means about the same thing too. B. The presumption of innocence is a legal doctrine which applies to a criminal trial not to a public debate or the observation of apparently obvious conclusions, based on the facts in evidence, in a public discussion. Your proof of that Ad Hominem attack is? You have not refuted a single instance, as listed in my post, of the documents which your Obamessiah is frantically spending millions of dollars to keep suppressed. Again all you are doing is throwing up logical fallacies hoping something will stick to the wall. Oh, and have I personally attacked you? Other than by dismembering your shallow vapid logically false tirade? You seem wound entirely too tight. Might I recommend a nice glass of a mellow Red Whine? Of course the attorneys are working for free, the payments to Perkins Cole listed in the FEC filings are for Girl Scout Cookies. Again the dismissal of a case using technical grounds says NOTHING about the facts. It says that the case was dismissed on technical grounds. It is an interesting theory as well - "citizens governed under the Constitution have no standing to challenge the legitimacy of an Office Holder". Well "Seig Heil" to you too. Please link to any Post I have every made citing Orly Taitz as a reference. I'm waiting. Still waiting. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzt! Time's up! The answer is: NEVER. Not even once. You're still batting a 1,000 - false on every account. Again your opinion unsupported by any facts. Congratulations, you successfully avoided addressing any issue intelligently, and completely avoided the fact that Mr. Soetoro-Obama (The Man with 16 SSN's) is withholding, hiding, suppressing, keeping secret, concealing, shrouded, covered up, and refused to disclose any of the records which document his history or would definitively settle the question. Do, normal honest people spend millions of dollars in legal fees to avoid producing a $15 copy of a document that proves their innocence? Only in the mind of a Bushite or O'bot is the answer to that question yes.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
No, JD ... Osambos grand mammy told the truth ... but it don't matter because the liars are the people that raised you and I to believe there was a Constitution. There is NO CONSTITUTION and no reason for Osambo to show a birth certificate ... why do you think every court where a CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENT has been filed has dismissed the case ? They say Lack of Standing ... and the truth is that the CONSTITUTION HAS NO STANDING.
YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !
Per American jurisprudence, it is you k00ks who need factual support for your charges. Mother Jones: What's Obama's Birther Legal Bill Is President Barack Obama spending millions of dollars to hide the truth about his citizenship? During Obama's 2008 run for the White House, his campaign and a host of other credible sources repeatedly debunked the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and was thus ineligible to serve as president. But this failed to quell the "birther" movement, whose acolytes have filed more than 60 civil lawsuits challenging the president's citizenship. None of these suits have gone anywhere in court. But birthers say that's because Obama has unleashed a phalanx of powerful lawyers to silence them—spending $1.7 million in the process, according to WorldNetDaily (WND), an enthusiastic online promoter of the birthers' cause. Given the sheer number of cases, it seems plausible that the president and the government may have been forced to devote real resources to their defense. But in fact the opposite may be true: The birthers' own copious legal bungling could wind up costing them more than Obama will have to spend defending himself. The birthers have peppered dozens of state and federal courts around the country with legal challenges—against the president and other government officials and organizations who had some role in allowing Obama's name to be placed on the ballot, including the Federal Election Commission, various state election officials, and the US Supreme Court. Some of the suits, particularly those filed by the movement's leading lady, California lawyer/dentist Orly Taitz, have been headlined by members of the military claiming they've been wrongfully made to serve in foreign wars by an illegitimate commander in chief. Most recently, birther attorneys have represented car dealers who charge that Obama is a phony president who lacked the authority to order a restructuring of Chrysler that they say cost them their businesses. WorldNetDaily has noted that FEC filings show that Obama's presidential campaign has paid out more than $1.7 million since the election to the law firm of Perkins Coie. Until recently, that firm was home to Obama's campaign lawyer, and now White House counsel, Robert Bauer—the very same DC lawyer, says WND, who has defended Obama in many of the birther lawsuits. Ergo, WND concluded, Obama must be devoting that entire $1.7 million to crushing birthers in court. This is a ridiculous claim: Even after an election is over a presidential campaign has plenty of need for lawyers as it winds down operations and meets campaign finance law requirements. But WND's editors believe they have a smoking gun in a letter Bauer sent on April 3 to John David Hemenway, a DC lawyer representing retired Air Force Colonel Gregory Hollister in a suit against "Barry Soetoro…de facto President in posse." (Some birthers claim Obama is actually an Indonesian citizen who shares his last name with his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.) The lawsuit claims that Hollister may be unable to perform his duty to uphold the Constitution if Obama called him out of retirement and ordered him to war, because Obama isn't a natural-born citizen. A US District Court judge dismissed the "frivolous" case and reprimanded the 83-year-old lawyer for filing it. Nonetheless, Hemenway appealed, prompting Bauer to send him a letter warning that Obama would seek sanctions if he pursued the matter. WND and many of its readers apparently believe this letter proves that Obama has teams of expensive lawyers Roger West, an assistant US attorney in the central district of California, represented the government in a lawsuit brought by Taitz on behalf of perennial presidential candidate Alan Keyes, asking the court to require that Obama prove he is a natural-born citizen. The case has dragged on for more than a year, mostly because Taitz, a graduate of an online, unaccredited law school, failed to serve the defendants. Judge David O. Carter dismissed the suit in October for a host of reasons, but Taitz has appealed. Yet West says that far from bleeding his office, Taitz and her co-counsel Gary Kreep have assembled such a weak case that he hasn't had to spend much time on it. "I filed one motion that didn't take too long, we've had two hearings and that's it," he says. "It's not like we've devoted some sort of task force to this." Army Major Rebecca Ausprung handled two of the birther cases against the Department of the Army that disputed Obama's authority as commander in chief to order soldiers to war. Ausprung says she spent a few hours drafting motions and doing research, and she did have to make three short trips to Georgia from Arlington, Virginia. She prevailed in both cases. "The monetary cost to the government in defending these two cases was extremely minimal," she says. Or consider a case filed by one of the most prolific birther litigants, Philip J. Berg, that went all the way up to the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals. In November the court dismissed the appeal and ordered Berg to pay the legal costs for the defendants, which included the Federal Election Commission. Here was the government's big chance to recoup its millions. But when the FEC submitted its bill, the grand total came to $20.40. This doesn't include the cost of the time government lawyers spent writing briefs and appearing in court. Yet it's clear that as much of a nuisance as these suits are for the government, that's all they are: a nuisance. In fact, the plaintiffs may be spending far more time and money on these cases than Obama or the government is, in part because of their failure to abide by basic court procedures. In one of the Georgia cases Ausprung handled, a federal judge sanctioned Taitz in October for $20,000 for, among other things, pursuing a case long after a judge had dismissed it and her own client had discharged her. Taitz has refused to pay the fine. So far, judges have been remarkably tolerant of the birthers' shenanigans— despite being handed abundant opportunities to throw their petitions out of court. In one case, Taitz allegedly encouraged supporters to contact the judge by phone and mail to lobby for her cause—a glaring ethics violation that he chose to ignore. Another of her cases only went forward because the federal judge basically begged the defendants to let Taitz serve them—the first step in any lawsuit, but one that Taitz had neglected to take for about seven months. The judges' written opinions suggest that by giving the birthers' cases a full airing, they hope to put some of the most outrageous allegations to rest. But not only have the birthers shown little gratitude to the judges who have indulged them, their court losses have also fueled the conspiracy theories that the judges had hoped to extinguish. Taitz accused US District Judge Clay Land of having improperly discussed one of her cases with Attorney General Eric Holder, and submitted a sworn eyewitness account describing a clandestine meeting in a Columbus, Georgia, coffee shop between the judge and a man with a "trim upper lip mustache, not large of stature and general olive complexion"—whom the source naturally assumed to be the attorney general. On the day in question, however, Holder was making a public appearance 2,000 miles away in Los Angeles. Expect the birthers' theories to become even more far-fetched as their legal endeavors continue to fail. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley You ripped that Obot a new one. Excellent post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. That is my thought as well. Use her to bring up a series of weak cases to discredit the legitimate questions about Oh'bummer secreting every public document regarding his personal history. Same thing as was done with Clinton's Impeachment - he should have been on trial for treason in selling U.S. Weapons Technology to the Red Chinese so instead we are treated to Monica's Dress as a diversion. Problem is it didn't work. Now all the O'bots can do is whine about Oily while everyone with any sense sticks to the unanswered questions of substance. Not only that it flusters them so much when you don't take the bait and try to defend her. It isn't what they are hoping for when they mention her.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Personally, I'll take the word of the mother of Barack's children over Mother Jones. I do believe that Michelle and Barack's grammy know a tad bit more about his birth and his birth certificate, which nary got a mention in that piece, then Mo Jones.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Quote verbatim where she says he was born in Kenya or else stop spamming.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Quote verbatim where your "mother of Barack's children" says he was born in Kenya. No fluff about AIDS or LBGT or DADT. Just the words of where and when in Kenya his mother delivered him.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Thank you sir. Of course he will likely try some sort of comeback as the O'bots are too emotionally invested in their Red Obamessiah. Of course he's taking them for a ride too but in their fanatic fervor they cannot question the Obamessiah.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! How are your court cases going imbecile? pwned.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Here we have Obama himself, his granny and his wife CONFIRMING his citizenship, yet we are out of line for requesting proof of citizenship. How can people defend a person who's own family has already let the cat out of the bag? When he was elected Senator in Illinois, multiple newspapers confirmed the fantistic win of the Kenyan born Obama. Notice how EVERY arguement moves quickly away from the orignal BC and on to diversions.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
No, the TRUE BELIEVER™ will never question his Obamessiah. I guess they would think of that as heresy.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. No fluff about AIDS or LBGT or DADT. Just the words of where and when in Kenya his mother delivered him. More diversions. Michelle said it--deal with it. His granny said it too. Even Barack has let the cat out of the bag while you whine and complain that there is NO reason to question his citizenship. Just go up the thread and listen to Michelle yourself. I'm not your personal transcriber. The info. is right there.......it only takes one click for you to get your own "verbatim" quote.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
It is a sad day when a man can ADMIT he is not an American and have brain dead people arguing that he is!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Y'all keep 'em straight or as close to it as you can. I need to go out for a bit but I know I am leaving it in capable hands.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I merely find your response sad and pathetic. Sad that you would so blithely throw out the rule of law, and applaud the denial of justice on technicalities as a good thing. Pathetic in that you somehow think that proves anything other than that our courts are compromised and corrupt. Sad that you would think it a good thing to defend a poseur, a con man, and a fraud who cares little about the welfare of this Republic and everything about his own personal aggrandizement. Sad too in that you seem incapable of understanding just how pathetic that is. Pathetic in that you are incapable of seeing how this leads to disestablishment of the Republic and the loss of freedom to all. No, that is more than pathetic it is quite insane really.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
So why did McCain spend $1.5 million on his own 2008 legal fees compared to Obama's total $1.7 million, imbecile? Did McCain have his own legal challenges to citizenship that he somehow swept under the rug and made sure they never got publicity? BWAHAHAHAHAA!!! Just Show Me Evidence that Obama Has "Spent Millions" Defending Birth Certificate Lawsuits? Lots of people on this site say that Obama has "spent millions of dollars" defending himself against birther lawsuits. How do they know how much he has spent? Before you say "He MUST have spent a lot because lawyers are expensive," let me point out that I am a lawyer, and I know that filing a simple motion to dismiss for lack of standing--which has worked for almost every one of these lawsuits--is very CHEAP. A junior associate can crank one out in ten minutes, and they cost almost nothing to file. So can anyone provide concrete evidence that Obama has spent millions of dollars defending birther lawsuits? Do you have copies of legal bills? Statements by any of Obama's personal counsel? Where's the evidence? February: Your links show the TOTAL LEGAL bill from Obama's campaign. They don't show the amount spent on defending birther lawsuits. just cause: Your link ALSO shows the TOTAL LEGAL BILLS for the ENTIRE CAMPAIGN. Campaigns have many legal expenses. There is no reason to believe that your amount was used SOLELY to defend against birther lawsuits. ... The simple truth is that general counsel for a campaign has a wide array of tasks that they must complete, from ensuring candidates are on the ballot in all 50 states to contracting leases for the campaign HQ's to ensuring compliance with FEC requirements ...To February; you find my response to be crude because you aren't capable of logical reasoning. You cite FEC filings as proof that Obama has spent millions defending birther suits, I tell you McCain has spent $1.5 million compared to Obama's $1.7, and your defense is that he has a history traceable to his great granparent. Ignoring the total lack of relevance of your response, I suggest you conduct some more throrough research into Obama's great grandparents Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham, Sr. and Ruth Lucille Armour, then crawl back under your rock. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley How are your court cases going imbecile? pwned. You haven't done any pwning here. I remember Mr.Clean going on about how the troofers had made no headway because they'd won no court cases or made any progress. Ad homs and logical fallacies do not a pwning make.
One track mind k00k theories, including the 911 conspiracy theories, propounded for years on anonymous websites, are terminal attacks on logical discourse and activity. But life shall go on. Humanity will have a choice between tribalism (past) and the future. The ones who choose the future will predominate. The tribalists will have to fend for themselves as they get swept away by the currents of progress.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley She didn't say he was born in Kenya. Take some English classes at your local adult eductation school - if you have one.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley are you really going to make us go to that jew apologist site wnd to see this crap? ;-)
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 For some strange reason the Marxist-Fascist abomination that Soetoro was installed to implement is not selling very well. Not a lot of buyers - of course there are still a few suckers and they get more and more wound up the more obvious it becomes that people are not buying Barky's "change". "One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Poor Agravator, I guess all that money was for Girl Scout Cookies after all. Wanna buy a Bridge kid?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
At least someone else see WND for the zionazi rag it is.
YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !
Is the truth not still the truth no matter who speaks it or writes it?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. What is the basis for ALL of these "lack of standing" dismissals ? Looks to me like any American should be able to sue (having standing) to demand the birth certificate. My point is that the Constitution lacks standing in FEDERAL COURT. The FEDERAL (reserve bank) Govt. is not the one formed by the Constitution. The medium of exchange is the best evidence of the choice of law. The Constitution operates when the medium of exchange is Constitutional MONEY. When the medium of exchange is debt based, fiat currency or better said CREDIT or COMMERCIAL PAPER, then the law is no longer the law of the land based upon substance drawn from the land, it's Law of Commerce/Contracts which is Admiralty Law, or Law of the Sea. Today the Constitution is as irrelevant as Soetero's birth cert.
YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !
lol.....what, no verbatim? Let me help you......."when we took our trip to Africa and visited HIS HOME COUNTRY IN KENYA".......... She says it's his "HOME COUNTRY" for crying out loud. How is it his home country if homey wasn't even born there? What, prey tell, does "home country" mean to you?
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
What, prey tell, does "home country" mean to you? Isn't it funny how the Obamabots tie themselves in knots trying to defend the indefensible?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. So you admit she does not say he was born in Kenya. In this context, it clearly means a country of origin of a parent. She clearly was not parsing her words for a bunch of internet know-nothings playing "gotcha." Now since "home" is defined as "place of residence," how could she possibly mean her husband and his family were living in Kenya at the time?
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Isn't it funny how the Obamabots tie themselves in knots trying to defend the indefensible Isn't it funny how Birferk00ks twist and mis-translate an English phrase into whatever they want it to mean in their own pretend world where they rule all? And since Michelle is approximately the same age as her husband, what makes you presume she has any direct knowledge of where her husband was actually born, when she can't even remember the details of her own birth and would have no way of being a witness to his?
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley I think it's even funnier how people have to use cute little names like "Birferkooks" in order to malign people on the internet. A sure sign of Saul Alinsky if I ever saw one. I don't have a dog in the hunt, but I see a pattern where this sort of thing is concerned. If there was no truth to the matter, the thing would die on the vine, just like the 9-11 folks saying it was an inside job. Of course they've got cute names for those guys too that I'm sure you use when you go back to whatever office you get your marching orders from. I used to like some of your posts but when I read misspelled names, and other faggoty crap meant to incense people, it screams out how badly you have already lost an argument that should have died out long ago.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
You are really reachin' here. Now, you "know" the context but nobody else could possibly "know" what you know. She was clearly stating that Obama is a Kenyan citizen. Kenya is his mother land, not America, for if it were America she would have said America is his home country. Generally, when people say "home country" they are referring to where they were born. You pulled this "clearly means a country of origin of a parent" out of your butt. I've never heard anybody use the term "home country" in that manner.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Only one person on the internet could POSSIBLY know the context that Michelle was speaking of, even if it is out of context to any reference the lot of us have ever heard. I always refer to other countries as my "home country," don't you James? And granny and the spouse do the same, I'm sure.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The only places where these rumors persist are anonymous sites. The conspiracy theories have been debunked hundreds of times over by hundreds of people and nobody cares except the preprogrammed CT's. The k00ks never address any specifics I bring out to rebut them. Because they can't. Examples: None of the k00ks has ever rebutted any of these points even partially. Instead they go on riffs and the same ad hominems and logical fallacies they attribute to others.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Were you born that stupid or has all that Nigerian spunk that's been pumped up your ass gotten to your brain? Any idiot (except you) knows that you have to be a natural born American to be POTUS. obama has failed to prove his eligibility. Now, all he has to do to clear this up is to: SHOW US HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE But he won't because he was born in Kenya. On top of that, any US citizenship he might have had was lost when he became an Indonesian citizen under his real name which is Barry Soetoro. You'd like that, wouldn't you.
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Let me put it again into language you can understand, keyclacking fruitcake. You have no more chance of seeing Obama's documents - that have already been vetted by dozens of qualified personnel - than you have of taking a peek and a feel inside Obama's shorts. The matter has been resolved and there are not even any new lawsuits or favorable outcomes of old. You have as much chance of seeing his BC as you have seeing his organ. Neither are any of your business. You might be able to pay someone for a fake picture. Deal with it. No one else GAS.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Let me put it in language you can understand you turd guzzling shill Nobody, I mean NOBODY with a brain believes your bullshit. I don't care how many times the MSM covers for his commies ass or how many paid stooges like you they send out to spam the net Bary Soetoro is a fraud, a pretender and a traitor, and things like you are the lowest form of verminous scum on Earth Your fantasy not mine, loser. WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
Hence the problem. Lots and lots of government personnel.
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#61. To: Original_Intent (#56)
Then just for good measure we get Argumentum Ad Hominem i.e., through the use of another fallacy Loaded Words i.e., "kOOks".
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#62. To: abraxas (#60)
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Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#63. To: AGAviator, James Deffenbach, all (#46)
(Edited)
So eager are you to propogate your untruths that you eagerly glom onto the wildest anonymous speculation and forgeries only available on anonymous Internet k00ksites.
"Your idiotic statements about millions of dollars being spent to tell judges the plaintiffs have no evidence and the court has no jurisdiction even if there were, are a case in point. Facts are one attorney was working for free, and all the others state it was so easy to get the judge to swiftly dismiss the cases the legal work was minimal. The majority of the court's time was the judges saying "Wrong....wrong....wrong" to the k00k plaintiffs. The Obama lawyers could barely get words in sideways - not that they needed to. "
Then there's the incident where your idiotic Queen Bee lawyer offered patently forged material to a court which was breathlessly reported by an equally idiotic news site.
"You've got a nifty false front op going here. Make anybody with objections to the status quo look like a blithering idiot filing suits right and left. Yah, that's really accomplished a lot the last 3 years."
#64. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
I guess his Kenyan grandmother was lying when she said he was born in the little village where she lives too.
#65. To: Original_Intent (#56)
It is both an unsupported assertion of the form P therefore Q., it asserts something as true without factual support, and then uses itself to prove itself thus also making it a circular argument
Tue Jan. 26, 2010 4:00 AM PST
Show me an itemized Perkins Coie bill detailing how much of that $1.7 million for any and all campaign 2008 expenses, is for Birferk00k litigation.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#66. To: Original_Intent (#63)
Oh, and have I personally attacked you? Other than by dismembering your shallow vapid logically false tirade? You seem wound entirely too tight. Might I recommend a nice glass of a mellow Red Whine?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#67. To: wudidiz (#48)
Seemed to me like she was a disinfo plant.
#68. To: AGAviator (#65)
#69. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
Bet I have posted this half a dozen times
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#70. To: abraxas (#68)
Personally, I'll take the word of the mother of Barack's children over Mother Jones
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#71. To: James Deffenbach (#66)
#72. To: James Deffenbach (#66)
You ripped that Obot a new one. Excellent post
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#73. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
#74. To: Original_Intent (#71)
Of course he will likely try some sort of comeback as the O'bots are too emotionally invested in their Red Obamessiah. Of course he's taking them for a ride too but in their fanatic fervor they cannot question the Obamessiah.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#75. To: AGAviator (#70)
Quote verbatim where your "mother of Barack's children" says he was born in Kenya.
#76. To: abraxas (#73)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#77. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, all 4um posters who have not been conned by the Kenyan (#71)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#78. To: AGAviator, abraxas, James Deffenbach, all (#72)
#79. To: Original_Intent (#63)
(Edited)
Of course the attorneys are working for free, the payments to Perkins Cole listed in the FEC filings are for Girl Scout Cookies
Ten Easy Points! Just show me evidence that Obama has "spent millions" defending birth certificate lawsuits?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#80. To: AGAviator, James Deffenbach, Original_Intent, abraxas, all (#72)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#81. To: Original_Intent (#78)
Pathetic in that you are incapable of seeing how this leads to disestablishment of the Republic and the loss of freedom
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#82. To: abraxas (#75)
Just go up the thread and listen to Michelle yourself
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#83. To: Itistoolate (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#84. To: X-15 (#45)
So much for America celebrating a new Hope by a burst of enthusiasm and idealism at the "election" of a marxist mongrel-dog of questionable heritage. The construction of the new political and economic system and the conversion of the whole nation to a new set of attitudes just can't seem to get off the ground, fortunately.
#85. To: AGAviator (#79)
#86. To: Artisan (#83)
are you really going to make us go to that jew apologist site wnd
#87. To: Artisan (#83)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#88. To: AGAviator (#79)
I am a lawyer, and I know that filing a simple motion to dismiss for lack of standing--which has worked for almost every one of these lawsuits--is very CHEAP. A junior associate can crank one out in ten minutes, and they cost almost nothing to file.
#89. To: AGAviator (#82)
She didn't say he was born in Kenya.
#90. To: abraxas (#89)
lol.....what, no verbatim? Let me help you......."when we took our trip to Africa and visited HIS HOME COUNTRY IN KENYA".......... She says it's his "HOME COUNTRY" for crying out loud. How is it his home country if homey wasn't even born there?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#91. To: abraxas (#89)
What, prey tell, does "home country" mean to you?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#92. To: James Deffenbach (#90)
(Edited)
What, prey [sic] tell, does "home country" mean to you?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#93. To: AGAviator (#92)
#94. To: AGAviator (#91)
#95. To: James Deffenbach (#90)
#96. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#93)
If there was no truth to the matter, the thing would die on the vine, just like the 9-11 folks saying it was an inside job
How badly you have already lost an argument that should have died out long ago.
(1) McCain spent $1.5 million on his 2008 Presidential legal expenses. Obama spent $1.7. Why do the k00ks presume that all or even a major portion of Obama's $1.7 million is not for the same non-BC issues that McCain had to pay $1.5 million for?
Just a partial list.
(2) Why do experienced practicing lawyers explicitly state that drafting and filing motions to dismiss for lack of standing take minimal amounts of time and money, especially when they are swiftly honored by all judges, contrary to the k00kclaims that these junior attorney/law clerk tasks must have taken millions
(3) How much legal costs are incurred when cases never proceed to deposition, interrogatories, or discovery but are simply dismissed for lack of standing and/or evidence?
(4) How many individuals filing these BC conspiracy theories were either not in good standing with their State Bars or had histories of sanctions (start with Philip Berg),
(5) How many BC k00k cases were badly bungled by these incompetent plaintiffs who failed to follow basic procedures including proper service and not pressuring the public to try to influence the presiding bench, causing delays in the cases and plantiff rebukes from the bench
(6) What is the importance of the cardinal rule of American jurisprudence that accusations and charges must be backed by credible evidence indicating possession of information capable of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, to prevent them being dismissed for lack of credible evidence?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#97. To: AGAviator (#52)
got as much business seeing his BC, as you have
seeing his weenie
#98. To: Flintlock (#97)
Nigerian spunk that's been pumped up your ass
SHOW US HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#99. To: AGAviator (#98)
Let me put it again into language you can understand, keyclacking fruitcake.
a peek and a feel inside Obama's shorts
#100. To: AGAviator (#98)
that have already been vetted by dozens of qualified personnel
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