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Title: Is It Just Me, Or ...
Source: freedom4um
URL Source: http://N/A
Published: Jun 21, 2010
Author: Eric Stratton
Post Date: 2010-06-21 08:55:17 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 459
Comments: 45

... does anyone else get the sense that something enormous is going to happen here very, very soon to change life for all of us forever? And not in a good way. LOL

I wake up this morning, and granted, not well rested, but I'm skimming through some "news" stuff and op-ed pieces that indicate to me that very few people think that we are in any kind of dire trouble. It's politics as usual with writers bitching about the same exact stuff they were bitching about in the '80s or '90s while suggesting the same "solutions."

I also had some conversations over the weekend with varying people, some of whom I thought should understand at least some basic fundamental stuff in terms of not being snowed by the MSM, yet they seemed clueless.

There's talk in the media, as usual, of this current economic climate for the US being just another road bump (my term) in the "cyclical economic nature" of things. Yet, in looking at our debt, how is it even possible for a nation to recover from something like this? As I see it there is simply no mathematical way to recover w/o unprecedented and perhaps even epochal pain and pervasive if not comprehensive societal upheaval. The states and municipalities are no better off, perhaps worse in most cases.

People are focusing on superficial entertainment related stuff seemingly clueless and/or unphased as to any notion of any looming problems. Oh sure, many people are cutting back on spending and such, but there's little indication that most think that we are in anything but the next normal/routine cycle.

I try to talk to people from time to time, more so recently thinking that perhaps current events have slapped some reason and cognizance into peoples' heads, but I'm met with the looks that no doubt many of y'all are familiar with, looks of "oh come on, you don't really believe all that, do you," or "oh come on, you're not 'one of those' people...," etc. I will ask them, seemingly bright people, questions about why they believe what they believe on "current events" and the like, and all I get is a litany of Douche Lameblow drivel, Faux Snooze or NY Slimes, etc. nonsense.

For example, we're starting to read about how government pensions are being cut and with people and media acting as if these first-line and nominal pension "changes" are the solution. But the fact of the matter is that the budgets of municipalities, states, and the FedGov are still way out of whack. As I see it, none of those pensions will ever get paid for people more than a few years away from retirement. That math simply isn't there to support that they will. Even after these trivial cuts, that many people and media treat as huge, the budgets are still just as much out of whack as they were before them indicative that these "cuts" are merely a drop in the bucket, but few seem to have a clue in that way.

I could go on, but presumably most of you know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, I just feel like I'm living in a Twilight Zone.

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#1. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I also had some conversations over the weekend with varying people, some of whom I thought should understand at least some basic fundamental stuff in terms of not being snowed by the MSM, yet they seemed clueless.

"oh come on, you're not 'one of those' people...,"

Yes, Eric, my experience is just as yours...as another here says "it is too late".

CadetD  posted on  2010-06-21   9:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I wake up this morning, and granted, not well rested, but I'm skimming through some "news" stuff and op-ed pieces that indicate to me that very few people think that we are in any kind of dire trouble. It's politics as usual with writers bitching about the same exact stuff they were bitching about in the '80s or '90s while suggesting the same "solutions."

YOu don't really expect anything different, do you?

They have a vested interest in doing these things. Their job is to make $$$, not inform people. They keep them distracted and therefore complacent, and therefore spending $$$. The last thing they want is to rock the boat in this shitstorm.

Just because they get away with this does not mean that they are going to win. The truth always wins out, because nothing they do changes what is.

THe sheeple don't bother me anymore. I don't feel the need to get anyone to agree with me, even if I will make fun of those that disagree. Getting frustrated doesn't help YOU or me.

AFA something big happening, it is one day closer to happening. I hope it happens and happens soon. But I can afford to say that. The only family I have is the one I was born into.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-21   9:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

.... looks of "oh come on, you don't really believe all that, do you,"

sort of shot myself in the foot with them type here - one I tried to educate is a 20-something editorial writer for the local paper who pushes the fear lines about the militia being anti-American - he stopped conversin with me now, cause I'm 'one a them' - another is an older writer who mocks all of us with silly stories about islamo-commie-facist-gophers taking over the town and how we should be vigilant .... I've tried discussing this 'oil spill' - folks here know nothing, don't have family on the coast, aren't concerned ... our county infrastructure is like everyone elses, falling down and no money for repairs except by raising more taxes, to their credit, the town voted down the last bond issue, told the PTB to make due with what they have a lil longer - all 'smart people' in town, business folk with money pushed, $1,000s into advertising how great the tax increase would be for us,'for our children' /puke ... many days I feel like the straight guy visiting the Beverly Hillbillies, wide eyed dis-belief is a common emotion for me around many of these folk


~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~

Amandil  posted on  2010-06-21   9:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   9:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

(rhetorical since I know you don't have the answers)

I think I do ;)

IMO it's not that they don't want to, or can't see it. It's that they are lazy. Digging for this takes time and effort. No one handed this to us on a silver platter. Speaking for myself, I've had a lot of false starts. It's like being told "So you want the truth huh? First you will find out what it is not!" I'm saying that in hindsight, of course.

And, we value the truth, even if it sometimes scares the crap out of us, or pisses us off. Fear and anger, to the sheep, is too uncomfortable.

IMO the only loosers will be those invested in the system. Not that it will be a cakewalk for those not invested in it, but it will be a figurative cakewalk compared to what will happen to them.

It's almost like more are becoming dumbed even further down.

I agree. But IMO that dumbing down is the result of them being even more studious in their ignoring what is staring them in the face. THey think that ignoring it will make it go away.

Or are seemingly bright people really not all that bright?

IMO it has nothing to do with intelligence. We have intelligent people on our side too, remember.

The way I see it, it has everything to do with having the ability to not be emotionally invested in their own personal worldview, and having the ability to drop the errors when exposed to the truth. Not too many can do that.

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CHIMPOUT!

Live free or die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-21   9:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

but I'm still befuddled as to why/how so many can't see the big picture.

I, too. Maybe it's because self-reliance and individuality have somehow been bred out of so many Americans; they have come to rely on Government for direction, have come to regard it as so complex that one must be educated as a lawyer to hold public office. Americans pay scant attention to Government, thinking that the senators and representatives will take care of them. TV has had an enormous deleterious effect on us, causing us to think we are well- informed people. Thus, the Internet is despised by those whose agenda it exposes.

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lod

Bub  posted on  2010-06-21   9:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CadetD, Eric Stratton. (#1)

as another here says "it is too late".

It is too late. The demographics have been intentionally shifted and the country is populated with (I hate to even call them people) things that have no clue to the real history nor the destiny that was once ours.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-06-21   10:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Anyway, I just feel like I'm living in a Twilight Zone.

Cue Rod Sterling, because that's exactly where you've landed. I've been trying for 20 years to get members of my own family to get a clue, without results. That leaves it up to me to store food & supplies for seven adults and a 5-year old just in case the lights go out for a few months. A cyber attack is what freaks me out having been in two major blackouts in NYC and it isn't fun. That said, since we've been treated to this insight there's no turning back. It's sucks, but it is what it is.

OBAMA'S CHERNOBYL

Spew, Baby, Spew

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-06-21   10:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

... does anyone else get the sense that something enormous is going to happen here very, very soon to change life for all of us forever?

No, not really. What I see is the same ol' march towards totalitarianism that I've been seeing all of my life with the same ol' non-caring attitude by the American people. We are the proverbial frogs in the pot of water being slowly brought to a boil. If I see any difference at all it's in the increased rate at which the RP/DP political machine is moving towards their totalitarian goal. It will still be slow enough though that the majority will never know what hit them until it's to late. Even then I can't help but wonder if that same majority will be standing in their government bread lines admiring each others chains.

I run into the same type of people as you do Eric. The majority that I speak with are either clueless and happy to be that way or are brain dead partisans who will back whatever it is their party is doing (ala LP, DU and TPF).

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-06-21   10:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

can't help but wonder if that same majority will be standing in their government bread lines admiring each others chains.

They'll be comparing tatoos, too...marked for slavery, though stylishly

CadetD  posted on  2010-06-21   10:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bub (#6)

self-reliance and individuality have somehow been bred out of so many Americans;

I disagree that it has been bred out. These qualities are within each person, but the price to recognize them is to take responsibility. It has been crushed by design. You cannot have a nation of sheep if people are self relient and self aware. Government has intruded into every aspect of the American life. The same groups that push for more governement and buy legislation also keep the sheeple distracted ad nauseum and in a constant state of fear. People cannot grow and remain in a state of fear at the same time. In a state of fear, people seek protection in lieu of self determination.

Only in America can the government kill women and children as they did at Waco and Ruby Ridge and the American people accept MORE government as a solution.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-21   10:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

i'm pretty fortunate to live in Austin where there's a large community of folks who get it. it's curious too. i meet people in various situations with whom i strike up a conversation and it's amazing how often it will be someone who is informed/likeminded. it's almost as if our spirits are drawn to one another. it probably gives me a bit of a skewed perspective of the numbers who are actually waking up.

still, i agree with you about living in the Twilight Zone. every morning when i awake i can't believe how bad things have gotten. i can't predict at all what my future is in terms of security and that's disturbing to put it mildly.

christine  posted on  2010-06-21   10:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

Even then I can't help but wonder if that same majority will be standing in their government bread lines admiring each others chains.

They will be telling anyone who will listen that they are "freer" than some other poor sob's in some third-world country with a more cruel massa.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-21   10:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   11:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Bub (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   11:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Flintlock (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   11:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   12:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   12:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA (#5)

i think that people who view themselves as 'in the know' about the nwo tend to have an apocalyptic view of things. like an impending sense of doom. yeah, we have 3 more months, or 6 more months, before everything falls apart and we are in bread lines, or fema camps. complete bullshit. we all here will be posting in 5, 10, & probably 30 years watching & complaining about the horrid state of our 'republic. the specific timelines & date predictions are the most comical for me. i understand the sense of 'impending doom', but people need to get a grip.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-21   13:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton, bub (#15)

alex jones new film fall of the republic, i watched part of it for the first time last week. its free on youtube, and part 9 is particularly great. it has allen watt and covers societal issues, such as mesmerization with sports, as a vehicle to essentially castrate mans true nature of caring about important things. highly recommended.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-21   13:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#19)

Agreed. But most grow out of it over time. Those that don't, listen to alex jones for their daily dose of panic-inducing "WOLF!" . ;)

But can it last that much longer? I know how silly it is to make up timelines etc. because I used to do that. But that does not make invalid the belief that things can't go on much longer. I see a compromise between the extremes that is valid.

I'm not aware of any good news out there. It's all bad. And it's been that way for years now. Sooner or later a tipping point will be reached, imo. I just know it will happen when it happens, and not on my schedule.

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CHIMPOUT!

Live free or die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-21   13:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Bub, 4 (#6)

TV has had an enormous deleterious effect on us, causing us to think we are well- informed people. Thus, the Internet is despised by those whose agenda it exposes.

Just as we despise and reject the msm and their propagenda.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-21   13:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#21)

Alex Jones

i understand & concede some of your points & as you know have even been a critic myself at timed, but still can't help but like the guy. his show is very entertaining & informative. ( yeah, i know. jews jews jews jews jews, et al,.. etc. :-)

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-21   13:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Artisan (#23)

his show is very entertaining

Know what he reminds me of?

But informative? To each his own.

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CHIMPOUT!

Live free or die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.

PSUSA  posted on  2010-06-21   14:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

... does anyone else get the sense that something enormous is going to happen here very, very soon to change life for all of us forever? And not in a good way.

You just need to take a good dump, everything will work out in the end.

;-)

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X-15  posted on  2010-06-21   15:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#22)

Just as we despise and reject the msm and their propagenda.

Yes, but the disinfo machine sure has been effective. To this day, 80% of the people in this nation get their "news" from the MSM without ever asking what they are missing or what isn't covered or how biased a story is. Nope, the conditioning is so complete that these people report their sources are "independent" and trustworthy.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-21   16:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Artisan (#20)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   17:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: X-15 (#25)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   17:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#20)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   18:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan (#20)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   18:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Eric Stratton (#30)

i had gotten as far as number 9. In my opinion. the best part started at number 8, which quickly hammers obama's flip flops on the wars, sighing statements, patriot act, etc. be sure to watch 8. (great to show to dems).

I willl catch the rest later.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-21   20:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#31)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   20:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#31)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   20:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Eric Stratton (#33)

don't bother with 1-7, imo. boring and a slow start. your time can be better spent. if you want a good video though check out jethro tulls post yesterday big brother big business. 5 stars.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-21   20:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

People are focusing on superficial entertainment related stuff seemingly clueless and/or unphased as to any notion of any looming problems.

Oh C'mon, It's really important to know where and when Gary Coleman will be buried and what he will be wearing.

"Anyway, I just feel like I'm living in a Twilight Zone."

We've been living In the Twilight Zone aka Virtual Reality for the last 100 years. The totalitarian tiptoe has just speeded up over the last twenty years or so, causing many of us to wake up and notice how odd reality has become.

So many people want things to go back to the way they were. I'm not saying you are among them. They wish to go back to the twilight zone and sleep a little longer.

"... does anyone else get the sense that something enormous is going to happen here very, very soon to change life for all of us forever? And not in a good way. LOL"

Reality demands a major shift in our way of thinking and living. We can thumb our noses at TPTB, laugh at and ignore their megolomania, and get on with our lives.

They are prepared for every response from us except ridicule.

How about some major street parties at their G20 summits? Laugh-Ins at BO'S ADDRESS'es and speeches?

angK  posted on  2010-06-21   20:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: angK (#35)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   21:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: angK (#35)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   21:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#37)

I suppose that you thought that WACO and Ruby Ridge were a real fucking laugh riot too

I await your next comment with mounting excitement.

angK  posted on  2010-06-21   21:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: angK (#38)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-21   21:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton (#39)

Time for me to say "Oh C'mon!"

You're right, as always!

It's just you.

angK  posted on  2010-06-22   6:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: angK (#40)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-22   8:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: CadetD, Eric Stratton (#1)

Yes, Eric, my experience is just as yours...as another here says "it is too late".

who is that?

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-22   8:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Itistoolate (#42)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-22   8:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Eric Stratton (#43)

may the force be with you (Jesus)

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-22   8:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Itistoolate (#44)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-22   10:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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