[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

As Hedge Funds Dump Everything Else, They Buy Energy & Material Stocks At Fastest Pace In 5 Months

"Traitors" - Musk Blasts Democrats Voting Against Republicans' Election Integrity Bill

These Are The Hottest (And Coldest) Temperatures Ever Recorded In America

"The Sh*t Is Going To Hit The Fan On Monday": DC In Turmoil As Biden Says Only 'Act Of God' Will Dislodge Him

What Democrat Overlords Were Like After the Debate

Biden Continues to Make EVERYONE Super Uncomfortable

Economic Collapse Only Way to Prevent World War III

Flight to New Hampshire diverted after man exposes himself, federal officials say

Satellite Images Show Suspected Chinese Spy Bases Growing in Cuba

Hitler's last secrets revealed thanks to never-before-seen archives

If The British Lost At Trafalgar | Waterloo Never Happens & America Is Not a Global Power

If America LOST The Battle Of Midway: 'Japan Invades Hawaii And Russia Struggles To Fight On'

Killings of surrendering Russians divide Western mercenaries NYT

US sailors gripe about lengthy mission to protect Israel

Armed vagrants set up homeless encampment in backyard of family's historic $800,000 home -

Mob of nearly 100 looters ransacks Oakland gas station as store owner says police took hours to respond

Prosecutors Knew Epstein Had Sex With Underage Girls Years Before Plea Deal, "Outrageous" Transcripts Reveal

Taxpayer-funded Planned Parenthood boasts about being leader in transgender medical procedures

Joe Biden’s Upcoming Fundraiser in Wisconsin Cancelled

Migrants Who Filmed Themselves Gang Raping 13-Year-Old Girl Spared Prison by Liberal Judge

COMBAT! s.3 ep.13: "The Long Walk" (1964)

Over 60 Foreign Policy Experts Issue Letter Urging NATO Against Advancing Ukraine Membership

Parkinson's Specialist Met With White House At Least 9 Times Since July 2023

How To Copper Ground Shoes Like a Professional

7 In 10 Voters Think Biden Is Too Old To Be President

Parkinson's Specialist Met With White House At Least 9 Times Since July 2023

Its time to have a discussion about how black people are destroying Carnival Cruise Line

Biden's Campaign Announces $50M Media Blitz In Battleground States Amid Health Questions

Paul Joseph Watson

Putin Responds to Trump Wanting to End the War in Ukraine! | Buddy Brown


Editorial
See other Editorial Articles

Title: McChrystal shot himself in the foot
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 24, 2010
Author: http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/
Post Date: 2010-06-24 00:48:26 by tom007
Keywords: None
Views: 99
Comments: 4

McChrystal shot himself in the foot

Nato's top commander may be an able general — but as a soldier-politician, he's a MacArthur-sized disaster

* By Simon Tisdall * Published: 00:00 June 24, 2010 * Gulf News

US Special Representative Richard Holbrooke and US General Stanley McChrystal

* Obama said he did not make the decision over any disagreement in policy or "out of any sense of personal insult." * Image Credit: AFP

The Afghan pressure cooker, that great reducer of reputations, may have consumed its most senior victim with Tuesday's ominous White House summons to US General Stanley McChrystal to explain mocking comments about Barack Obama and his top advisers. Like an erring schoolboy up before the beak, Nato's top commander in Afghanistan will be asked to demonstrate to Obama, in person, why he should not be expelled. It could be a tough sell.

Politically speaking, Obama would probably be ill-advised to sack the general. McChrystal was, after all, Obama's choice after he fired his predecessor, the able General David McKiernan, for reasons of expediency. A high-level rift with the top brass would not only intensify doubts about Obama's conduct of the war as it reaches a critical juncture. It would also revive questions, constantly recycled by Republican opponents, about his fitness to be commander-in-chief.

That said, from a personal point of view Obama may be severely tempted to give McChrystal the bum's rush. It's not the first time the two men have crossed swords. They have a history. Last autumn, while Obama was agonising over his seemingly interminable Afghan strategy review, McChrystal pre-empted the White House by allowing his own assessment of the war effort to be published.

McChrystal's analysis was grim. The war could be lost, he warned, unless a big new effort was undertaken including the deployment of 40,000 additional combat troops in tandem with a "civilian surge" in diplomatic and financial assistance. In a series of interviews, he said half measures would not work. "You can't hope to contain the fire by letting just half the building burn." His outspokenness was seen as a brash bid to force Obama's hand.

This extraordinarily public policy tussle came to a head in London in October when McChrystal addressed the International Institute for Strategic Studies. Rejecting the "containment" policy option favoured by Vice-President Joe Biden, he said such an approach would produce "Chaos-istan" and he would not support it. The US needed to escalate militarily, adopt his counterinsurgency strategy, and hurry up about it.

Obama reacted by carpeting McChrystal in a hastily convened, face-to-face meeting aboard Air Force One. In the event, the president went along with the main thrust of McChrystal's recommendations, agreeing to send 30,000 more troops. But a lack of empathy, and possibly trust, between the two men and their respective camps had been clearly established. They did not get on and the relationship was not to improve in the months that followed.

Principal targets

In January a row erupted over leaked cable written by the US ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, in which he, like Biden, argued against the surge. Eikenberry and Biden are two principal targets for disparagement in Rolling Stone magazine's report. But James Jones, Obama's national security adviser, Richard Holbrooke, his special envoy, and unidentified "wimps in the White House" also get it in the neck. McChrystal is said by aides to be personally "disappointed" in Obama.

Banter or not, this amounts to jaw-dropping lse majest from the retinue of what sounds like a pretender with imperial delusions. McChrystal may be an able general, a special-forces guru at his best when up against a wall. But as a soldier-politician, he's a MacArthur-sized disaster. Such words cannot be unsaid, however many apologies are forthcoming and once mutual confidence is lost, it will be almost impossible to regain.

The extreme pressure under which McChrystal and his retinue operate, day in, day out, may be the most plausible explanation for their behaviour. The general opposed Obama's decision to set a July 2011 timeline for the start of an Afghan drawdown. The Pentagon is also uncomfortable with yet another White House policy review due in December, with General David Petraeus, McChrystal's superior, last week downplaying its significance. Both decisions have complicated his task.

Actual or planned operations in the south, notably in Marja and Kandahar, have not gone as well or as swiftly as expected, as McChrystal recently conceded. Casualties, civilian and military, are rising. Afghan President Hamid Karzai has not been as supportive as the Nato allies would like, with some former ministers suggesting he no longer believes a military solution is attainable. And McChrystal knows support is fading at home. This month, when Afghanistan officially became America's longest war, an ABC News/Washington Post poll found 53 per cent of Americans believed the conflict was not worth fighting.

But in the end, McChrystal can only blame himself, not the mission, for his difficulties. An austere, self-denying, shy and almost ascetic man with a wild and violent past, McChrystal close up has something of the Spartan about him. Perhaps he and his raucous, loose-talking aides identify in some way with the doomed defenders at Thermopylae. But King Leonidas he ain't, as Obama is about to make plain.

— Guardian News & Media Ltd

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 4.

#1. To: tom007 (#0)

I think Charles Smith nailed it last night on Rense. Charlie's comment was that a General at that level knows how the political game is played and that it is political. What he said was intentional. Purpose unknown, but he was probably at the point of being beyond disgust and just didn't give a shit if he was fired.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-24   1:48:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

That sounds very plausible to me. He may have simply been burned out on all the war and didn't care anymore. Certainly wouldn't be the first soldier to get the stress disorder, though in his case it would only be from being inescapably responsible for the casualties.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-06-24   3:14:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pinguinite (#2)

That sounds very plausible to me. He may have simply been burned out on all the war and didn't care anymore. Certainly wouldn't be the first soldier to get the stress disorder, though in his case it would only be from being inescapably responsible for the casualties.

I don't know the man or much about him. What I do know doesn't seem out of line with a good warrior general. Some go on about how he "he...he...he...employed tactics that killed people!" but then, that's what soldiers are supposed to do.

His situation seemed untennable to me. He was put there to, ostensibly, be effective. He was clearly given no long term mission objectives (who has been? What's the actual goal in Afghanistan by the administration? What are the conditions of victory? Who knows?), he was however given short term objectives and no real resources to deal with them. Meanwhile, he's responsible for every man under his command, and he knows it. He's pleaded with the deaf and egotistical politicians endlessly, and Obama goes as far as to only meet with him once before this, ignoring all other pleas or requests, except to grant a pittance of an initial request for troop increase, that given with affected superiority by Obama and a "stfu" following. Men are still dying, resources are still scare, and he's still responsible ultimately for it all (since Obama assumes responsibility for nothing bad).

Hell yeah he did this knowingly. I hope he sings like a bird now that he's out of the picture over there. Bring down Obama (and Bush before him) with absolutely scathing tales, hopefully all verifiable. Personally I don't know why he didn't resign earlier, but he may have a very strong sense of duty and "never give up", which are traits you'd want in a military commander.

Dunno. Maybe he's a douchebag in real life and I'm just making assumptions. From what I've read, the men on the ground love him a la Patton, so if he's a bad guy he certainly doesn't pass that down to the men under his command.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-24   9:14:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SonOfLiberty, christine, buckeroo (#3) (Edited)

Some go on about how he "he...he...he...employed tactics that killed people!" but then, that's what soldiers are supposed to do

Actually, McChrystal was popular with Afghan honcho Karzai because he was implementing rules of engagement that would minimize civilian casualties even at greater risk to American forces (Petraeus' "COIN" counterinsurgency manual). The days of coming in on night raids, or wildly bombing, killing women and kids, then lying about it and covering it up are going away.

McChrystal has had some grumbling about the new rules from his troops and he had addressed these complaints directly. To one soldier who complained about restrictions, he said the Soviets killed a million Afghans and that didn't work. To many others he has said that for every unjustified civilian killing there will be 10 new recruits in that place, and "we can't kill our way out" of the country. McChrystal has also pointed out that in the 1500's the Afghans expelled the Mongols who took them over under Ghengis Khan. And when a private sent McChrystal an email complaining about the COIN rules, McChrystal showed up at his unit the next day and walked patrol with the private's squad.

The talk about Obama would have been really trivial had it not been published. But Obama gets the last word, and by appointing Petraeus who wrote the manual that McChrystal was implementing, he only changes the face and not the policy.

More of the Same Promised in Petraeus’ Afghanistan Reassurances from All Parties that McChrystal Plan Will Remain in Place

AGAviator  posted on  2010-06-24   10:34:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 4.

        There are no replies to Comment # 4.


End Trace Mode for Comment # 4.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register]