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Published: Jun 25, 2010
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2010-06-25 11:45:16 by Turtle
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I was sondering about this yesterday. My last girlfriend, before she met me, had signed up for one of those Chemistry/eHarmony/Match.com sites. She told me she had a few dates and they were catastrophes. They had nothing in common. And she paid money for this! I'll bet not one person out of ten thousand finds a mate on these sites. Out of curiosity I once took the test at Chemistry.com. They asked questions about the ratio of my ring and index finger (men have longer ring fingers due to testosterone in the womb). I consider such a ratio irrelevant in a relationship. They asked one question each about politics and religion -- which I have found to be exremely important in relationships. I'll bet the owners of these sites are making millions off of lonely desperate people. i'll bet they pay for a month and then let it lapse. But if people are signing up every day, well, there is a sucker born every minute. i'll bet I could do a better job as a matchmaker than these people.
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#29. To: Ferret (#24)
It's hard to cut slack to somebody who walks through a home with family pictures on the walls, following a woman with a large ring on her finger up to the bedroom, seeing the open closet with a man's clothes in it, and then goes through with it anyway. Sorry, in those kinds of cases (which are the only ones I'm talking about, not one where the spouse is intentionally hiding her/his married status, in which case the unsuspecting partner is innocent of malice), then a shotgun shell delivered to the head is appropriate and just.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
How can that be? According to Newsweek: "No Company Screens Its Members More Rigorously" That right there is a "scientifically proven combat"......lol.....I mean "compatability matching system."
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol........nobody is smokin' what you are rollin' Mike.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol........if Carl Jung was correct, then all 6.6 billion of us are soul mates. People fall for this "soul mate" bit hook, line and sinker, but, between you and I, it's mostly desparation and lust, not a spiritual aspiration.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Craig's list is a choice that works better in some areas then in others. But in using any dating service, common sense and getting to know someone and finding out what ou are getting into is always allot smrter then to give the hormones the driver's sat in starting out with someone.
This is why, just like the Super Bowl, you play the game on a neutral field. Hotel room and/or equidistant location. That's astoundingly naive of you to think it plays out that way. Yeah, if a person does it the way you described in your first paragraph, they should be shot, not for shtupping someone else's spouse, but as a Darwinian imperative to remove stupid from the gene pool.
That right there is a "scientifically proven combat"......lol.....I mean "compatability matching system." I got this one. The fatal flaw in their system is that they assume guys are being honest. We're portrayed as rather dim animals but most of us are smart enough to pick the right sappy answer out of a field of generic questions, to wit: "If a woman you're attracted to or dating walks in to your apartment crying, do you: A) Ignore it and watch ESPN B) Get up, take her in your arms and ask her what is wrong C) Fart loudly and remind her that Thursdays are "steak and blowjobs" night D) Make a PMS remark or ask if she's "riding the cotton pony" this week. I took the test long ago. It's like 30 pages of foofy questions to gauge your sincerity. Once you can fake that, you're in.
Funny, must think somewhat alike, because I actually looked up the origin of that one, I guess I enjoy etymology or something. It was a term in the early part of this century to describe a "lacivious affair". It was not a flattering statement. Somewhere along the line when teh wimmins became 'labiated' and it was a heroic thing to be a 'single mom, blah, blah, blah..' it became popularized and turned on its head.
Wait a minute, Loddy. Who is this Joe Beam? I thought Jim Beam with the marriage helper. ; )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I think JimBeam helps fuel affairs more than he helps marriages. Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.
Sound advice Loddy. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The aforementioned eHarmony girl used to say that Jack (Daniels) put her on her back and Jose (Cuervo) put her on her knees. Assuming the best about her 'virtue', I presumed that meant passed out in the first instance and puking in the second. She said "yeah, that's about 75 percent right..."
lol....eharmony girl sounds like a "real catch" and I just can't fathom why she's having a hard time finding a meaningful relationship. Perhaps water found it's own level on the sight when she hooked up with that "real catch" of a guy. Do you think she answered all the drinking questions honestly? It's a real turn on to hold hair back while vomit spews.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
my opinion is that most (normal) men won't move on a woman until he gets a signal that she's interested. it's my contention that most of the time it's the woman who is the initiator. what do you think?
Unless, of course, the men are married.....then they initiate ad nauseum, coming back like a dog to vomit for more rejection, always thinking that this one last hail mary pass will win the game.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
perhaps..but i still think they get the signal of interest first assuming they're not narcississtic sociopaths who aren't fazed by rejection. that's why i qualified my statement with normal men. ;)
lol.........I did miss that caveat. Proceed to ignore my previous commentary on the matter. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Purely intentional and by plan I assure you. That is the reason for the Feminism PsyOp and the war on religion. The people directing the operation are Psych's of various flavors but the goal is the distancing of men and women the normalization of the perverse.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It depends upon whether you are dealing with a gentleman or not and/or someone of normal perceptiveness versus someone who is either naive or a dullard.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I think I must respectfully disagree. I have met two or three women, unfortunately already married, with whom there was an indefinable difference I just felt immediately comfortable and it was reciprocated. Like two halves that fit together. No, I think the concept valid but too often desperation and lust are accepted as a substitute for the real thing. I have noticed it as well in some older couples and when one dies the other, unless they're tough and independent as well, usually does not live another full year.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I always feel this about my pets OI....does that make them all my soul mates? : ) I think the concept is overused, abused and over applied. Although, I too have known older couples who by actions and deeds demonstrated the concept better than any I've ever heard speak of it. I was a hospice volunteer for a woman with Alzheimer's. Really more of a helper and friend to her husband who insisted on lovingly caring for her at home. When I began, the two had been married for 62 years and I was fortunate enough to be of small assistance for the following two years. Of course, her condition worsened. But, each day he cared for her with such love and patience. Although she wasn't physically responsive, you could actually see her spirit respond to her devoted husband. They had three adult children, who eventually insisted that she be put in a home against his adament wishes, in fact he went after his daughter with a knife when she pushed this upon him. And this sweet, sweet man, had nary a mean bone in his body. He just had no way to defend against their insistance on separating he and his wife. This, sadly, broke all the child/parent bonds. S She died within two weeksof separation from her devoted husband, despite having been deemed quite healthy just two weeks prior with never even one bed sore in all the time her cared for her. One month later, he followed her and he had very few health problems to speak of, other than the fact that he didn't want to live without his sweetheart.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Just too sad for words.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
As the proud guardian of two affectionate feline friends I can sympathize.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
that is a very sad story. how could their kid do such a horible thing? ;-(
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 your use of the word 'guardian' instead of owner just raised my hackles. lol!! ;-/
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 What a brutal story. Did these folks not have living wills and physicians' directives as to their wishes? These things need to be reduced to writing while we're still competent and able to get them done.
Well my kitties are my little friends. I don't think of them as "property", although in the eyes of the law they are, but as non-human companions whom I love. It is a matter really of viewpoint. One "owns" things, however a furred friend is a responsibility and a comfort. My little Tia-dorable is currently napping on my shoulder as I write. I guess that is where I depart from a "pure" "modern" Libertarian philosophy, which often eschews responsibility, and remain a PaleoLibertarian i.e., that I view ownership, control, and responsibility as co-equals. If you diminish one you diminish the others. If you increase one you increase the others. Much the same as operates Knowledge, Responsibility, and Control. One cannot be responsible for something they do not Control, and they cannot control that which they do not have knowledge of. Again they are mutually dependent - increase one and it raises the others and vice versa.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Did these folks not have living wills and physicians' directives as to their wishes? These things need to be reduced to writing while we're still competent and able to get them done. I'm aware of a similar one that was even more vicious - the elderly man, a neighbor, was, along with his wife who was given a Psych Drug, taken before a Judge, declared incompetent, and placed by son in a "facility" notorious for the short lifespan of its "patients". Fortunately the lady recovered enough from the drug to escape and she was able to contact her daughter by phone who picked her up. Unfortunately they were not able to get the old man out before he died. The woman, no longer under the influence of the drug, got herself declared competent and then cut the son, effectively, out of the Will - leaving him $1 so that her intent was clear and there were no grounds for him to contest the will. The insanity and viciousness of some people is ghastly to observe. However, I do not let such scum color my view of others since most people are decent. I don't blame the old man abraxas spoke of for pulling a knife on the daughter who stole his love.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Nor I. Pity he hadn't a proper sidearm to close the deal.
I'm not sure. In hospice, I often help people with such directives, but in this case, Frank was of sound mind and I never butted into his business, just listened and watched over his wife while he ran errands and such. The kids said he wasn't able to care for her and the home, although in the two year span that I was visiting the house was ALWAYS in good order. From what I gather, they set out to make the case that he wasn't able.....the three children against their father. They would refuse to assist in lieu of putting their mom in a home. They claimed caring for her was killing him, while I to this day say that taking away his ability to care for her killed him and her. Frank was competent up to the day he died. He was very sharp and did Sudoko puzzles daily. The kids didn't even bother to tell me after I had been coming over to Frank's each and every week for two years. I got a call from hospice one day out of the blue stating I would no longer be needed. Hospice called when she passed away and again when Frank passed away.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Truly beyond the pale. Those adult kids have truly set some awfully, awfully bad karma in motion for themselves. To my way of thinking, they murdered both their parents.
After being a hospice volunteer for many years, I'm not all that surprised by the things that people do. Kids to parents, parents to kids, siblings, so called friends. The hospice volunteer has a unique position wherein the person who is going to die has an ally that is unlike those "closest" to them in that they are there to assist and alleviate the pain, but not run from nor deny it. In this situation, I was providing caretaker assistance, so I didn't get involved in any of the legal details. However, when I am assigned to assist a person directly in hospice this is often the case, many times what they want most is to resolve conflicts, yet even in the face of death people refuse to let go of their hate, anger, victimhood, resentment. It's a unique perspective to see see both sides, how death humbles and hardens people.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I met them all and they seemed nice enough. But, the fact that Frank requested outside volunteers with family so close was my first clue that there was some keeping up with appearances going on. In all my days, I will always remember the tender love, devotion and care he consistently gave to his wife. Throughout the slow progression, he worked to fend off muscle atrophy and she was always very well cared for. When he would leave, only for a couple of hours to run errands, he would always give her a kiss and say something sweet.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You should write a short story about the last years of their love affair. It would be beautiful, and instructive for all of us.
What a depressing story!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
Nice one. Never heard it before, thank you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. The sheets maybe, but not the bedspread. About a year ago I was watching one of those late night detective programs about a real life murder and how they caught the guy that did it. In this instance the cops suspected that the suspect took the victim to, IIRC, the Days Inn Motel in Des Moines and had sex with her before he killed her. So they tested the bedspread in that room and found DNA from over 120 people on just that one bedspread.
About a year ago I was watching one of those late night detective programs about a real life murder and how they caught the guy that did it. In this instance the cops suspected that the suspect took the victim to, IIRC, the Days Inn Motel in Des Moines and had sex with her before he killed her. So they tested the bedspread in that room and found DNA from over 120 people on just that one bedspread. Yeah...you probably don't want to turn on a blacklight in any hotel room. "Fluids" on the lampshades, ceiling, drapes, desk chairs, and probably every other imaginable place and a few you can't...well, ok, perhaps just one 'fluid'.
Generally, my hospice volunteering stories do not produce what most would call a happy ending. Sorry to bum you out James. The silver lining was how much he loved his wife and how fortunate I was to witness that. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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#30. To: Samuel Gray (#20)
#31. To: Ferret, all (#28)
Craig's list is also a great place to meet good women.
#32. To: Lod (#25)
#33. To: abraxas (#31)
"lol........nobody is smokin' what you are rollin' Mike."
#34. To: SonOfLiberty (#29)
#35. To: abraxas (#30)
How can that be? According to Newsweek: "No Company Screens Its Members More Rigorously"
#36. To: SonOfLiberty, 4 (#27)
interesting site about marriage, soul-mates, and more -
#37. To: SonOfLiberty, Lod (#27)
The soul-mate stuff is the one that really, really gets me. Where does it come from anyway?
#38. To: Lod (#36)
#39. To: abraxas, 4 (#38)
#40. To: Lod (#39)
#41. To: abraxas (#40)
#42. To: Samuel Gray (#41)
#43. To: SonOfLiberty (#29)
#44. To: christine (#43)
#45. To: abraxas (#44)
#46. To: christine (#45)
that's why i qualified my statement with normal men. ;)
#47. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)
With the games going on these days I couldn't imagine being in the dating world. The entire idea of human emotions and closeness seem almost laughably anathema to many singles that I know. Well, that's what they say anyway. What a cold, cold brave new world is being created.
#48. To: christine, SonOfLiberty (#43)
my opinion is that most (normal) men won't move on a woman until he gets a signal that she's interested. it's my contention that most of the time it's the woman who is the initiator. what do you think?
#49. To: abraxas (#32)
lol........if Carl Jung was correct, then all 6.6 billion of us are soul mates. People fall for this "soul mate" bit hook, line and sinker, but, between you and I, it's mostly desparation and lust, not a spiritual aspiration.
#50. To: Original_Intent (#49)
I just felt immediately comfortable and it was reciprocated
#51. To: abraxas (#50)
#52. To: abraxas (#50)
I always feel this about my pets OI....does that make them all my soul mates? : )
#53. To: abraxas (#50)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#54. To: Original_Intent (#52)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#55. To: abraxas (#50)
#56. To: Artisan (#54)
your use of the word 'guardian' instead of owner just raised my hackles. lol!! ;-/
#57. To: Lod (#55)
What a brutal story.
#58. To: Original_Intent, Abraxas, 4 (#57)
I don't blame the old man abraxas spoke of for pulling a knife on the daughter who stole his love.
#59. To: Lod (#55)
Did these folks not have living wills and physicians' directives as to their wishes?
#60. To: abraxas (#59)
#61. To: Artisan (#53)
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how could their kid do such a horible thing? ;-(
#62. To: Lod (#60)
#63. To: abraxas (#62)
#64. To: abraxas (#50)
Lord Acton
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#65. To: James Deffenbach. 4 (#64)
#66. To: Lod (#65)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#67. To: Samuel Gray (#2)
"..... everyone knows why they're at the hotel room.....everyone goes home when you're done and someone else cleans up..."
#68. To: Big Meanie (#67)
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The sheets maybe, but not the bedspread.
#69. To: James Deffenbach (#64)
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