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Title: O'Reilly: Obama Could Face Impeachment If He Pardons Illegals
Source: NewsMax
URL Source: http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/ ... t-illegal/2010/06/26/id/363160
Published: Jun 27, 2010
Author: By: Chris Wessling
Post Date: 2010-06-27 07:10:06 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: SB1070
Views: 188
Comments: 13

O'Reilly: Obama Could Face Impeachment If He Pardons Illegals

Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:54 PM

By: Chris Wessling

Fox News' Bill O'Reilly is warning that if President Barack Obama ever bypasses Congress and uses his pardon power to make millions of illegal aliens citizens, he could face serious calls for his impeachment.


“If President Obama were to sign an executive order giving illegal aliens amnesty, his career would be over and an impeachment movement would explode,” O'Reilly said Friday night on his “Talking Points” segment during his top-rated Fox show.

At the same time, O'Reilly said he did not believe reports that the Obama administration would grant such a blanket amnesty.

Fox News, however, reported this week: “The Obama administration has been holding behind-the-scenes talks to determine whether the Department of Homeland Security can unilaterally grant legal status on a mass basis to illegal immigrants, a former Bush administration official who spoke with at least three people involved in those talks told FoxNews.com.”

The Department of Homeland Security estimates that at least 10.8 million illegal immigrants are living in the United States.

During his 2008 campaign, Obama promised pro-immigration and Hispanic groups that he would make an amnesty program a top priority. But such a plan has taken a back seat in favor of other Obama legislative initiatives, including healthcare and financial regulation reform.

With congressional elections fast approaching, both the legislative calendar and the climate for new immigration legislation appears to offer immigration legislation a slim chance of passing this year.


Republicans, led by Arizona Sen. John McCain, have been angered that Obama has done little to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, and have made that a prerequisite condition before any discussion of immigration reform can take place.

Reports that the Obama administration is weighing ways to circumvent Congress have Republicans worried. On Monday, eight Republican senators sent the president a letter saying they are concerned that he will grant unilateral amnesty to America's illegal immigrant population if his efforts to overhaul current U.S. policy fails in Congress.

The letter called on Obama to abandon any attempt to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books."

The eight senators who signed the letter were Charles Grassley of Iowa, Orrin Hatch of Utah, David Vitter of Louisiana, Jim Bunning of Kentucky, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Thad Cochran of Mississippi.

GOP Rep. Steve King of Iowa told Fox News that the White House has solicited opinions from experts on possible avenues for granting "amnesty for a large number of people."

A former Bush administration official also told Fox News that talks on the subject have been held by Obama officials who are "studying legal ways to legalize people without having to go through any congressional debate about it."


Republicans believe that Obama is anxious to grant citizenship to millions of illegals so he can add millions of new Democratic voters to the electoral rolls, ensuring his re-election in 2012 and tipping the national balance of power in favor of Democratic candidates for the foreseeable future.

O’Reilly also criticized the Obama administration for its lax treatment of the illegal alien issue, noting that Obama had appointed Harold Hurrt to be the liaison between the federal government and states over the increasingly contentious issue of illegal immigration.

Hurrt is the former police chief of Houston and Phoenix, and O'Reilly says he is “outwardly sympathetic to illegal aliens. As [police] chief, he refused to enforce federal immigration law. Now Hurrt is a federal immigration official? Come on, that's insane.”

Hurrt's appointment “proves that the president is extremely left on the immigration issue,” O'Reilly said.

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Reports that the Obama administration is weighing ways to circumvent Congress have Republicans worried. On Monday, eight Republican senators sent the president a letter saying they are concerned that he will grant unilateral amnesty to America's illegal immigrant population if his efforts to overhaul current U.S. policy fails in Congress.

The letter called on Obama to abandon any attempt to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States. Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books."

One thing Congress could do, if they had any spine, would be to cut all the funding for Obama and the First Wookie's joy rides. And of course they could refuse to pass or fund anything he asked for and defund his wars.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-27   8:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-27   8:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-27   8:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

Of course that would then entail a blowback that would cut funding for their joy rides and junkets.

Funding for the joyrides originates in Congress. They can cut his off without cutting their own off but of course, as you said so eloquently, they (just about) all share the same sty. I think there may be a few decent people in Congress but so few you could count them on the fingers of both hands and not run out of fingers.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-27   9:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-27   9:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: James Deffenbach (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-27   9:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The eight senators who signed the letter were Charles Grassley of Iowa, Orrin Hatch of Utah, David Vitter of Louisiana, Jim Bunning of Kentucky, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Thad Cochran of Mississippi.

Where the hell is mclames name and he is from Arizona? He must be counting on those illegal votes in the up and coming election. Arizonians need to put this bastard out of government before he does more harm to the country like he did on the USS Forestall and to the POW's and MIA's with his collaboration with the VC.

.......and why aren't the American people up in arms over the illegal immigration and open borders? Are they waiting for the illegal president to grant amnesty to the illegals?

LACUMO  posted on  2010-06-27   12:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The Constitution makes clear that the President may issue pardons, commutations and amnesties. I don't know if the President can, by decree, make someone a citizen and I don't think that Obama offered to do that, nor does anyone expect him to.

What he may do is issue an amnesty to those undocumented refugees already in the US, which would enable them to apply for green cards and apply for the track leading to naturalization. The amnesty would be (only) for their illegal presence in the US, so they could still be deported if they were otherwise found to be undesirable (e.g., involved in drug crimes) or ineligible.

Andrew Johnson was impeached for his official acts as President, vetoing some bills, removing some appointees. It didn't work. It is less likely to work now when the Republicans don't even have a majority.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-27   13:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Shoonra (#8)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/lawmakers-warn-administration-plan-unilaterally-grant-blanket-amnesty/

GOP Lawmakers Warn of Administration Plan to Grant Amnesty to Illegal Immigrants

Eight Republican senators and an independent group that supports tighter limits on immigration are warning that the Obama administration is drafting a plan to "unilaterally" issue blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants as it struggles to win support in Congress for an overhaul of immigration laws. 

Eight Republican senators and an independent group that supports tighter limits on immigration are warning that the Obama administration is drafting a plan to "unilaterally" issue blanket amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants as it struggles to win support in Congress for an overhaul of immigration laws.

The senators who wrote the White House on Monday say they are concerned that the administration is readying a "Plan B" in case a comprehensive reform bill cannot win enough support to clear Congress.

"It seems more real than just bullying (Republicans) into a bill -- that it's a plan that they can actually put forward ... circumventing Congress," an aide told FoxNews.com on Wednesday.

In their letter, the senators -- Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa; Orrin Hatch, R-Utah; David Vitter, R-La.; Jim Bunning, R-Ky.; Saxby Chambliss, Ga.; Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.; James Inhofe, R-Okla.; and Thad Cochran, R-Miss. -- urge the president to "abandon" what they say is a move to "unilaterally extend either deferred action or parole to millions of illegal aliens in the United States."

"Such a move would further erode the American public's confidence in the federal government and its commitment to securing the borders and enforcing the laws already on the books," they wrote.

Deferred action and parole, which give illegal immigrants the ability to seek a work permit and temporary legal status, are normally granted on a case-by-case basis. But the aide said the lawmakers have learned from "sources" that the administration is considering flexing its authority to grant the status on a mass basis.

Numbers USA, an organization that presses for lower immigration levels along with humanitarian treatment of illegal immigrants, has started a petition to the president expressing "outrage" at the alleged plan.

Rosemary Jenks, director of government relations with Numbers USA, said she's been hearing for weeks from "sources close to the Democratic leadership" in both chambers that administration officials are discussing whether the Department of Homeland Security could direct staff to grant "amnesty" for all illegal immigrants in the country.

"They're trying to figure out ways around a vote," she said.

"Any attempt to force an amnesty on the American people using this underhanded method smacks of despotism," reads the fax the group is urging supporters to sign.

The White House has not responded to a request for comment.

The Department of Homeland Security estimated last year that 10.8 million undocumented residents live in the United States; other estimates have ranged higher. Any move to grant blanket legal status, even temporary, would raise questions about how Homeland Security would be able to handle the caseload. Jenks said Congress certainly wouldn't grant the administration the funding for more caseworkers.

The purported discussions of a blanket amnesty come in the middle of several concurrent and heated debates over illegal immigration. The recently signed immigration law in Arizona has divided the country, with some states trying to replicate the state's tough legislation and other jurisdictions boycotting the state in protest. The Obama administration plans to file a court challenge.

Democrats, meanwhile, have been trying to round up support for an overhaul bill in Congress, and the Interior Department is facing renewed criticism from Republican lawmakers over restrictions it places on Border Patrol officers policing the border on federal lands. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., shocked several Arizona residents last week when he told them that Obama had said he would not beef up border security because it would leave Republicans without an incentive to pass broader immigration reforms.

Jenks said the talks about Homeland Security allowing illegal immigrants to stay are "serious."

Under the law, immigration officials can grant deferred action to temporarily postpone removing an illegal immigrant from the country. That status does not offer a guarantee that they won't face deportation, but Jenks said illegal immigrants granted parole are often allowed to seek permanent legal status.

If a "Plan B" is being discussed, it's unclear how far along the talks might be. Another GOP Senate aide said the discussions started after Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Richard Lugar, R-Ind., called on Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in April to stop deportations of undocumented students who could earn legal status under a bill they introduced.

A Senate Democratic aide said the Obama administration never responded to the April letter.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-27   19:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Shoonra (#8)

The Constitution makes clear that the President may issue pardons, commutations and amnesties. I don't know if the President can, by decree, make someone a citizen and I don't think that Obama offered to do that, nor does anyone expect him to.

But that Kenyan sure would like to. Will you admit now that he is not an American citizen having been shown several videos on another thread which pretty much prove it to all but the most determined, brain dead Obot? And two of the videos were (a) his grandmother and (b) his wife. Why would they say he was/is a Kenyan if he isn't? Were they ticked off at him that day? I can't see the upside for either of them to lie about it and most certainly not Manchelle. If Obama is removed from office, as he should be, she loses her gravy train and free rides at other people's expense.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-27   20:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Anyone who thinks that pos Obama and his minions passed off as a legitimate birth certificate need to know that Sun Yat Sen also had a similar Hawaiian BC.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii

"...“Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth was in effect from 1911 until 1972 and allowed someone who was born outside the Hawaiian Islands to be registered as though he were born in Hawaii. Under that law, someone simply would have presented herself to the Hawaiian authorities and declared that the child was born in Hawaii. The person could have sworn under oath and presented witnesses and other evidence. If the authorities accepted it, that was the end of it. All a person had to do was file a false statement and Hawaii took them at their word.

One could not just say "My kid was born in Des Moines but I want him to have a Hawaiian birth record". But if you lied no investigation was conducted to validate your claim and the Hawaiian birth record was issued no questions asked.

Knowledge of this practice was wide spread and there are probably thousands of people who obtained Hawaiian birth records between 1911 and 1972 through the process of affidavits and witnesses rather than hospitals and delivery doctors not the least of these was the president of the first Chinese republic. Sun Yat-sen was born to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, China, but he had a Hawaiian birth certificate(embedded below) and was officially a citizen of the United States. The wording on Sun Yat-sen’s Hawaiian birth certificate reveals that at age 18 he “made application for a Certificate of Birth. And that it appears from his affidavit and the evidence submitted by witnesses that he was born in the Hawaiian Islands.” Appears? It also appears that AKA Obama was born in Hawaii. Does the AKA Obama birth certificate on file with the State of Hawaii have language similar to the birth certificate of SunYat-sen?..."

Link: _Time_to_Take_a_Step_Back....html">http://beforeitsnews.com/story/85/613/10,000_offer_to_MSNBCs_Rachel_Maddow_to_produce_Obamas_Long_Form_Birth_Certificate,
_Time_to_Take_a_Step_Back....html

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-27   21:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: James Deffenbach (#11)

FYI, both Glen Beck and Bill O'Reilly claim the original newspaper birth announcements printed in Hawaii newspapers announcing obama's birth on his birth date essentially ends the birther debate.

I didn't say it, THEY did.

O'Reilly now claims birthers are fringe loonies.

FYI

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-28   10:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#12)

I don't really give a rat's @$$ what either of those guys say. They are only controlled opposition and pro-government lackeys.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-28   10:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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