Title: U.N. VEHICLES BY THE THOUSANDS STAGED IN FLORIDA Source:
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just the right location for results of the "oil spill"
Because those pilots are official members of the government and their statements carry greater weight.
Individual members of the military are not allowed to give press conferences, use their position to grandstand, or create public scandal or rumors.
So there is sound reason not to allow the military, a subordinate agency of the presidency, to alarm people or to create rumors or to grandstand.
And they have good cause to think that at least a few of their pilots are fruitbats as well. Therefore, no independent reporting or press conferences by military pilots. I think it is and should be cause for dismissal. No company or government agency allows their employees to appoint themselves as public spokesmen unilaterally or against the interests of the company/agency.
You're assembling negative proofs in a way to use them as a kind of positive evidentiary proof. This isn't possible, however you try to shave off the rough spots in your own mind.
If anyone ever asks me what DICK! cheney's ass tastes like, I'll be sure to point them your way...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Any mention of mobile units, in say vans or trucks...?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Tell us again, dick cheese, about the 911 The Official Government Fairy Tale®, oh mighty Bush boner...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
It is a way of distracting stupid people when you have no proof to offer to support your wild theories and incredible accounts.
Dime a dozen on this interweb thing.
By sheer accident, I'm sure, you've presented yourself on 4um as a CHEWISH apologist. So what credibility, exactly, do you believe you bring to US ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Should we destroy our TVs and converter boxes and satellite boxen now, just to be safe from Big Brutha?
Just keep watching FOX NEWS EXTRA EXTRA and we'll see how it goes...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
It is you who changed the topic with long bloviating posts about UFOs.
Of course, that is exactly the kind of thing I would say if I were a disinfo specialist. They teach us how to do it in Disinformation Specialist school.
I'm convinced you're a 'Disinformation Specialist' of the lowest odor...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Thank God for students of logic and lovers of truth...
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
If one sets aside preconceptions and lets the evidence tell the story, rather than have a fixed idea, then one is more likely to arrive at the truth. As in anything in this existence there is no guarantee, but the odds are a "bit" better.
A primary, yet not complete, rationale for why Global Warmist World Kommunists hate US so much...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
But jet airliners fall out of the sky like a rock if they go as slow as 90-100mph.
Your "facts" refute themselves.
Maybe your Universe of knowledge capability is simply too narrow for you to get a handle on things...I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but you're such a CHEWPOLOGIST that I don't know if you should be believed on the most rudimentary of subjects...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Well, that in and of itself is extremely ignorant in light of historical facts and miraculous documentations...how you could be a sentient being in this world for more than a little bit and not acknowledge God's creation is fodder for you to be marginalized and in not so polite company to be mildly ridiculed imo.
You can't buy into Jesus being the Son of God / God Himself will be your personal dilemma when your shell cashes in...good luck with that.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
While it is not my intent to get off onto a UFO debate the sheer volume of case reports, witness reports etc., all point to an indefinite percentage of UFO reports to be aircraft of some kind.
All? Indefinite?
Make up your mind.
Lame. Yes, indefinite - it means some percentage unknown. It means nothing else other than the exact percentage is not known. I would say at least 5% are bonafide UFO observations. However, when you are dealing in a subject not fully explored you are always dealing in "indefinites" which are subject to change at any time with the introduction of new data. And since the government seems intent on keeping that data unknown any research is opposed and is funded personally by those doing the research.
And no one has ever doubted that some UFOs are unidentified aircraft. And it has been proven repeatedly that this is so. It doesn't help the argument you are trying to make at all.
You didn't really think I was going to let you get away with such a deceptive argument did you? UFO means Unidentified Flying Object - therefore calling an unknown an unidentified "aircraft" is an unsupported assertion. We do not know what they are whether "aircraft", spacecraft, or something else. We can look at the most reliable witness reports, and the objective information such as photographs and video, and hypothesize based on the evidence. Likely some indefinite percentage are black budget "above Top Secret" aircraft but we cannot assert that ALL are. As well some of the reports, such as radar, put the speed and maneuverability of some of these objects well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. Others are of such huge size as to dwarf a Football Stadium. One sighting, by a family member of mine, was of an object so large that it covered the entire extent of the sky, over the high mountain valley we lived in, from horizon to horizon. I know of no known government craft built to that scale nor is there in evidence a propulsion system that could move such an object in total silence. A few military people have begun to speak - taken at face value it confirms that some percentage of the UFO's are in fact of non-terrestrial origin, and are well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. While there is no doubt in my mind that the most advanced technology in the black budget programs is 20 to 40 years in advance of what is spoken of publicly too many of the reports evidence an apparent technology well in advance of that which is believed to be in those black budget programs.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You didn't really think I was going to let you get away with such a deceptive argument did you? UFO means Unidentified Flying Object - therefore calling an unknown an unidentified "aircraft" is an unsupported assertion. We do not know what they are whether "aircraft", spacecraft, or something else.
Or swamp gas or old weather balloons. Some UFO sightings have been proved to be nothing else. But not all.
Likely some indefinite percentage are black budget "above Top Secret" aircraft but we cannot assert that ALL are.
No doubt. I think the Air Force makes use of this to conceal tests and may instigate UFO reports so they can debunk them. It would be handy for them to have such a distracting body of work to draw upon, especially during any institutional crisis.
As well some of the reports, such as radar, put the speed and maneuverability of some of these objects well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. Others are of such huge size as to dwarf a Football Stadium. One sighting, by a family member of mine, was of an object so large that it covered the entire extent of the sky, over the high mountain valley we lived in, from horizon to horizon. I know of no known government craft built to that scale nor is there in evidence a propulsion system that could move such an object in total silence.
Maybe the gooberment has a projection technology to create such atmospheric effects. Or a resonance generator that induces hallucinations that follow a familiar cultural trajectory in those exposed to it.
While there is no doubt in my mind that the most advanced technology in the black budget programs is 20 to 40 years in advance of what is spoken of publicly too many of the reports evidence an apparent technology well in advance of that which is believed to be in those black budget programs.
Too many? How many of these reports becomes "too many"? What is the threshold? One hundred? Five thousand? You speak as though a certain threshold has been passed without defining what the threshold is or what the criteria is for judging the standard to have been met. You keep trying to jump from speculation to wudi's corner where you end up citing statistical improbabilities despite the fact we know very little about the universe or even our own galaxy. We have quite a lot of vanity considering how little we actually do know. And scientists have a professional and financial stake in elevating their claims to knowledge, no different than the old tribal witch doctors did.
If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
The Essenes carried the message of Jesus. The Truth. The Word of God. Something to be taken seriously.
It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone. ~ Rose F. Kennedy
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Sound in principle? I guess Santa Clause is sound in principal too for some people. Unbelievable!
Have you ever read up on Einstein-Rosen Bridges? Check it out when you understand enough Calculus and Physics to grasp it.
I bet you think atoms are just pixie dust too, right?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Einstein? Really? Are you kidding me? You can't spot a plagiarizer blowing smoke up your ass to save your life, can you? Da Jews built that boy up, real scientists laugh at that clown.
You are one dumb shit Ricky. Are you too lazy to use Google?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Well, that in and of itself is extremely ignorant in light of historical facts and miraculous documentations...how you could be a sentient being in this world for more than a little bit and not acknowledge God's creation is fodder for you to be marginalized and in not so polite company to be mildly ridiculed imo.
I believe there is a God, not some man-god that the leadership of Rome dreamed up after killing all of the REAL person's followers.
The TRUE God is beyond anything that any human being can understand, as God existed and exists beyond this Universe, and is not some guy who riled up the Romans 2000 years ago.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The way I look at it Rotara, is that if all these people who scream and shout the name of Jesus were truly blessed and righteous, our world wouldn't be in the predictiment it's currently in.
For as long as history records events from the time of the birth of the Roman Catholic Church, it has proved to be nothing but a front for evil doers who claim to be following the word of their God.
If there WERE anything to it beyond fantastical stories made up by those who wished to corral and control the populace, there would have been divine intervention preventing the church leaders from perpetrating the sort of evil they committed in Jesus' name.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
Well, they probably wouldn't until very recently even know we exist. Prior to radio/television we were an invisible little planet, cosmically speaking. Now we give off enough radio power to look like a friggin' pulsar, and anybody with a telescope and radio measuring device would say "now why, oh why, is a small yellow sun giving off so many radio waves like that?". Were I an alien astronomer, that would fixate me on our system like white on rice. And probably the rest of my alien astronomy community as well.
Why people think the earth was visited prior to radio propagation is beyond me. Imagine the unbelievable effort required to explore another solar system (everything boils down to economics, if you take economics to mean a measurement of action in a society). If you were to invest so heavily in extra solar exploration, would you take random pot shots in a galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars, or would you go for the ones that looked like yellow sun pulsars? For my money, I'd go with the low hanging fruit first. Simply picking random suns and then "gosh, a planet with life" seems highly unlikely no matter how sophisticated the technology in question.
As to "why would they be interested in humans", that's easy. For the same reasons we'd be interested in them. It may well be a human conceit that superior technology breeds arrogance. But even that conceit is challenged these days, witness explorers using ginger touches and soft white gloves when dealing with isolated tribes they encounter now and again.
Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. Who knows, ultimately, what would motivate an alien civilization?
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Hawking seems to be on the "anti-explore" bandwagon for some reason.
Chances are, knowing another civilization is out there doesn't mean that we can *get* to it, or they to us.
Imagine the year 800 AD. An Indian warrior toss notes in leather bottles into the ocean. Thousands of miles away, some guy named Aelfelbert in a place called Land Of The Angles finds the bottle, reads the note, has no real friggin' clue what it is or what it means but knows it's from another person far away, and he has no way to get over there to check. In a response he writes down a few words from Beowulf on a sheet of papyrus (tha was god cynnig!), wraps it up back into the leather bottle, and tosses it back into the ocean. Whether that bottle ever makes it back to Squanto in Massachusetts is a matter of pure slim chance.
To me, that's what interstellar awareness of, and communication with, other civilizations will probably end up looking like, given the distances and limitations imposed by the speed of light.
Just speculation of course. Maybe life is teeming out there, using communications we just don't grok yet, and it's one giant galactic version of Vegas going on. If so, sign me up!
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
To me, that's what interstellar awareness of, and communication with, other civilizations will probably end up looking like, given the distances and limitations imposed by the speed of light.
We just don't know enough about what we don't know. What if those other lifeforms could hiberate and/or send generational ships. When they showed up here a hundred or a thousand years from now, they might not be too friendly.
Just speculation of course. Maybe life is teeming out there, using communications we just don't grok yet, and it's one giant galactic version of Vegas going on. If so, sign me up!
I'm not a huge fan of the notion "don't explore, you might get hurt", to be honest. Be cautious, yes, but to stop the spirit of exploration, you might as well just nuke us and call us done as a species.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Generally speaking, what's your take on the Gospel message?
The words of men, written by men, specificially Paul of Tarsus, along with some help from Roman authors.
The true Jesus (YAHSHUA) was an Essene, and taught the opposite of what Paul of Tarsus wrote.
Read the link I posted if you wish to know more.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Wrong, the website uses the Hebrew name for Jesus, which is Yahshua, not Yahowshua as you irreverently stated.
As far as vegetarianism, that is the lifestyle the Nazarenes (Essenes) followed as they did not believe a creature should die in order for it to be used as food.
Jesus was an Essene.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Wrong, the website uses the Hebrew name for Jesus, which is Yahshua, not Yahowshua as you irreverently stated.
But the link is: http://www.essene.org/Yahowshua_or_Paul.htm
They can't even name the page consistent with the article.
And you have to be an ignoramus to think that any of this ancient Hebrew even had vowels in it. Yet, you see a lot of magic-namism in some circles where they keep inventing various spellings to somehow give the impression that they know the true secret pronunciation and spelling of these ancient biblical names. But we don't know that.
Jesus was an Essene.
Piffle. You can assemble no evidence for it that passes musters with any scholars. This is your own idiosyncratic view, probably based on reading obscure web pages.
Gee, let me guess, you're a vegetarian and think that you have a vegetarian god as well?
I'm not a huge fan of the notion "don't explore, you might get hurt", to be honest. Be cautious, yes, but to stop the spirit of exploration, you might as well just nuke us and call us done as a species.
As you said, it's probably too late. We've been blaring our existence since the Twenties. An invasion fleet may already be inbound. It might be preceded by unmanned craft designed to seed our planet with lifeforms to start an ecology more friendly to alien invaders.
As time permits, but allow me to ask the obvious, which "non-men" wrote all that?
It's simply an essay using historical facts.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Let me guess, you believe your Pastor is the word of God, and that you have a firm grasp on events that happened 2000 years ago.
Yet you call ME a nut because I state the obvious in terms of UFOs.
Learn something other than what your TV evangelist pounds into you, Google the word Yahshua, and explore if you dare.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
And you have to be an ignoramus to think that any of this ancient Hebrew even had vowels in it.
Oh, so I suppose Jesus isn't a real name either, since it has vowels. It must be Jss then, eh?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#136. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker, HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, all (#108)(Edited)
If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island?
Why doe any Anthropologist study other cultures and races?
Your question presumes something not in evidence and I don't have to posit the "Theory of Realtivity" to observe the existence of an unexplained phenomena. Unexplained is by definition unexplained - yet.
As for the rest of your post you are just throwing shit against the wall hoping some of it will stick.
I do not claim to have all the answers. My only assertions are:
A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation.
B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with.
C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico.
D. As for the reports. Read them yourself. Many are available on line and the data is what the data is. It is not what people's preferred preconceptions or world view would prefer it to be. I already gave you a starting link and I will repeat it again for your edification and enlightenment: Sightings Website.
However, the old saw about "there is none so blind as he who will not see" would seem to apply. You have reached a conclusion, absent any data to support it, and are simply throwing up objections and diversions rather than examining the data. That's fine, it's an old tradition called "closed mindedness".
You are perfectly welcome to your point of view. I do not share it, and I would encourage all intelligent and curious people to examine the data rather than to dismiss without inspection. Although dismissing without looking does offer one great advantage - you are never at risk of learning anything which might upset your preconceptions.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator