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Published: Jun 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-27 08:11:32 by Itistoolate
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#125. To: TooConservative (#124)
Hawking seems to be on the "anti-explore" bandwagon for some reason. Chances are, knowing another civilization is out there doesn't mean that we can *get* to it, or they to us. Imagine the year 800 AD. An Indian warrior toss notes in leather bottles into the ocean. Thousands of miles away, some guy named Aelfelbert in a place called Land Of The Angles finds the bottle, reads the note, has no real friggin' clue what it is or what it means but knows it's from another person far away, and he has no way to get over there to check. In a response he writes down a few words from Beowulf on a sheet of papyrus (tha was god cynnig!), wraps it up back into the leather bottle, and tosses it back into the ocean. Whether that bottle ever makes it back to Squanto in Massachusetts is a matter of pure slim chance. To me, that's what interstellar awareness of, and communication with, other civilizations will probably end up looking like, given the distances and limitations imposed by the speed of light. Just speculation of course. Maybe life is teeming out there, using communications we just don't grok yet, and it's one giant galactic version of Vegas going on. If so, sign me up!
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
We just don't know enough about what we don't know. What if those other lifeforms could hiberate and/or send generational ships. When they showed up here a hundred or a thousand years from now, they might not be too friendly. As an entree at the buffet table?
I'm not a huge fan of the notion "don't explore, you might get hurt", to be honest. Be cautious, yes, but to stop the spirit of exploration, you might as well just nuke us and call us done as a species.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
The words of men, written by men, specificially Paul of Tarsus, along with some help from Roman authors. The true Jesus (YAHSHUA) was an Essene, and taught the opposite of what Paul of Tarsus wrote. Read the link I posted if you wish to know more.
Wrong, the website uses the Hebrew name for Jesus, which is Yahshua, not Yahowshua as you irreverently stated. As far as vegetarianism, that is the lifestyle the Nazarenes (Essenes) followed as they did not believe a creature should die in order for it to be used as food. Jesus was an Essene.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
But the link is: http://www.essene.org/Yahowshua_or_Paul.htm They can't even name the page consistent with the article. And you have to be an ignoramus to think that any of this ancient Hebrew even had vowels in it. Yet, you see a lot of magic-namism in some circles where they keep inventing various spellings to somehow give the impression that they know the true secret pronunciation and spelling of these ancient biblical names. But we don't know that. Piffle. You can assemble no evidence for it that passes musters with any scholars. This is your own idiosyncratic view, probably based on reading obscure web pages. Gee, let me guess, you're a vegetarian and think that you have a vegetarian god as well?
As you said, it's probably too late. We've been blaring our existence since the Twenties. An invasion fleet may already be inbound. It might be preceded by unmanned craft designed to seed our planet with lifeforms to start an ecology more friendly to alien invaders.
It's simply an essay using historical facts.
Let me guess, you believe your Pastor is the word of God, and that you have a firm grasp on events that happened 2000 years ago. Yet you call ME a nut because I state the obvious in terms of UFOs. Learn something other than what your TV evangelist pounds into you, Google the word Yahshua, and explore if you dare.
Oh, so I suppose Jesus isn't a real name either, since it has vowels. It must be Jss then, eh?
Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island? Why doe any Anthropologist study other cultures and races? Your question presumes something not in evidence and I don't have to posit the "Theory of Realtivity" to observe the existence of an unexplained phenomena. Unexplained is by definition unexplained - yet. As for the rest of your post you are just throwing shit against the wall hoping some of it will stick. I do not claim to have all the answers. My only assertions are: A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation. B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with. C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico. D. As for the reports. Read them yourself. Many are available on line and the data is what the data is. It is not what people's preferred preconceptions or world view would prefer it to be. I already gave you a starting link and I will repeat it again for your edification and enlightenment: Sightings Website. However, the old saw about "there is none so blind as he who will not see" would seem to apply. You have reached a conclusion, absent any data to support it, and are simply throwing up objections and diversions rather than examining the data. That's fine, it's an old tradition called "closed mindedness". You are perfectly welcome to your point of view. I do not share it, and I would encourage all intelligent and curious people to examine the data rather than to dismiss without inspection. Although dismissing without looking does offer one great advantage - you are never at risk of learning anything which might upset your preconceptions.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Written without vowels, yep. The few mentions of Jesus, like the story about Him related to Nero, garble his name even more badly which isn't hard to understand. I always assumed ancient Hebrew didn't have vowels because writing materials were so precious. You had to read the vowels in the context of being an ancient Jew who was already familiar with the stories and their context and history. But we don't have an unbroken chain of speakers of ancient Hebrew to decipher it with. So I don't think we know the real pronunciations of a great many words. Same applies to Aramaic and some of the Greek dialects.
So you would accept the miraculous claims of seeing Marian apparitions by Catholics? How about miraculous claims made by other religions (that always support their religion)? I don't think you really practice this. There are lots of ways for radar to give false readings and ghosts. Even more if you have some prankster or disinformation group pranking you. Anyone can say this when others refuse to believe their favored accounts of events. Dime a dozen.
More on this. A little history is in order. As you probably know, we have the name Jehovah from the YHVH of ancient Hebrew. And, BTW, they still can't prove whether it is YHVH or YHWH. You'd think that the name of the Father would be more of a settled matter but obviously there were ancient variants of the Unspeakable Name. So you may ask why we say Jehovah instead of Yehovah or Yehowah. Well, when the translators were translating the Old Testament, they translated to the Old English equivalent of Y which was spelled J in German and Anglo-Saxon. So the two Y's became two J's. Then they filled in vowels but with no real convincing phonetic reasons based on firm knowledge of ancient pronunciations. So YHVH (or YHWH) becomes Jehovah, the guy the whole bible was written about. And you want to claim such certainties about pronunciation? You sure about that?
Or...not. It's probably a bit silly to presume absolute benevolence or absolute evil. Life rarely works out that way. Even forest fires seed the next generation of trees in some forests. And I suspect that this is nothing you, nor I, nor our great grandchildren will have to worry about regardless of the encounter(s) per se, if there are any. For all we know, we might be the apex aggressive predator species in the galaxy and just haven't made it off this rock to discover it yet.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
True enough. An alien species seems likely to be completely unlike us biologically. We have a certain biped bias in our imaginings of aliens because Hollyweird had all those bad sci-fi movies with people dressed up to look like aliens. Alien life is likely far more alien than we can imagine. A scenario like Independence Day is not unlikely. It's the kind of thing we would do if we were capable of it, at least judging by how we behaved during the European colonial era and during the present era of the American empire and its neocolonialism.
lol It does.
What if those UFOs are real and they're full of Jews? Next thing you know, they'll land in the District and demand dual-citizenship. And as soon as our gooberment gives in and gives them dual-citizenship, then the Gay Niggers From Outer Space will show up. Did you hear the one about the two aliens circling the Earth in a UFO? One alien turns to the other and says, "This really IS a primitive planet. They haven't even exterminated their Jews yet!"
Could be, but then it could also be that most if not all creatures elsewhere in the Universe take on a form similar to us or other animals on Earth due to the development based on rules or laws of fractal geometry. Maybe they're not bipeds necessarily but grow as one cell then divide and then those two cells divide and so on... It should be very, very surprising if of all the solar systems in the Universe (maybe 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) we are the only one inhabited by life of any sort.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
Good retort! Did you make that one up just for this occasion? Heh-heh.
The vast majority of star systems are not like ours. They have different elements, an entirely unknown chemistry and physics to us. If you read the astronomers, they discuss this sometimes, just how little we know about even the variety of chemistries and physics out there. And so we might be a most unusual area of the universe, a total freak of nature. And therefore entirely alone in the universe. Maybe God only works with a few planets at once. Or just one. Even in our own solar system, we are freakish. If the orbit of earth was slightly different, if the Van Allen belt weren't there, et cetera then there would be no life here at all. Life even here is obviously a miracle, even by our own very limited knowledge. It is so unlikely that you can almost prove we can't exist. And they might be intelligent gases. Or balls of plasma that inhabit a sun. Or microbes that work together in a communal life form. Or giant worms. Or very bright shrimp. Chances are that they are far more different from us than like us. The same sheer numbers you cite to support your argument tends toward that conclusion.
I don't even consider the RCC; or any man made religion for that matter...Jesus came to abolish religion and create relationship with the Living God Almighty directly.
What if those UFOs are real and they're full of Jews? Next thing you know, they'll land in the District and demand dual-citizenship. And as soon as our gooberment gives in and gives them dual-citizenship, then the Gay Niggers From Outer Space will show up. What if they were manufactured by the Jew Kommunist World Orderists / Banksters / Information - Global War Mongers ? Would that be close enough ??
"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?" As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else? "Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island?" Meade actually departed from the discipline of science and attempted to prove that tribal intelligence (such as head shrinking skills and insect soup recipes) are equal to the study of particle physics, but our bigotry and false belief in our superiority blinded us to the proper ways to compare them and us. I suspect that alien visitors use us the way we use frogs to teach biology 101, or they make fertilizer out of our precious bodily fluids as depicted in the latest remake of WAR OF THE WORLDS.
Just because it's so big. I'm not sure about the numbers, but something like 100 Billion stars in the galaxy. Again, not exact with the numbers, but maybe 100 to 500 Billion galaxies in the Universe. You do the math. What I mean is, according to mathematical probablility, I think it is extremely unlikely that we are the only intelligent beings in the Universe. And that's an understatement. But hey, what do I know? And recently the number of Galaxies has expanded yet again as more were discovered to exist than previously thought. It is not unlikely that numbers of galaxies may number in the trillions. What's a billion times a trillion? A number so big that it loses meaning, and yet that is the number of stars in the known universe. So far, every star that astronomers have been able to look at closely enough has planets. Even if we limit the possibility of habitable planets to only Type G Yellow Dwarfs, in the main sequence, much like our own then there are likely millions of habitable planets in our galaxy alone. Of course not having explored other Star Systems yet we do not know for a fact that only Type G Yellow Dwarfs have habitable planets. I can see a Blue Star having habitable planets, but just further out from the star. Ditto Red Stars, but closer to the fire. It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else? "Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island?" Meade actually departed from the discipline of science and attempted to prove that tribal intelligence (such as head shrinking skills and insect soup recipes) are equal to the study of particle physics, but our bigotry and false belief in our superiority blinded us to the proper ways to compare them and us. I suspect that alien visitors use us the way we use frogs to teach biology 101, or they make fertilizer out of our precious bodily fluids as depicted in the latest remake of WAR OF THE WORLDS. Or it simply might be that by pure chance we were located at an interstellar crossroads, and the visitors are just stopping to gawk at the natives. I do admit I always find it amusing when someone, such our erstwhile interlocutor, asserts some version of the "we're the only intelligent life in the universe and this is the only inhabited planet, line of reasoning. It has no foundation other than an unwillingness to look at the available data and drawing a logical conclusion. However, who ever said the human race is logical?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Nice ass kicking, O_I! May I suggest that this is a good place to add "limited, parochial, provincial and egocentric view" in the future?
As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else? Genesis 6:1-2
Ouch. I didn't say it like that.
So you would accept the miraculous claims of seeing Marian apparitions by Catholics? How about miraculous claims made by other religions (that always support their religion)? I don't think you really practice this. B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with. There are lots of ways for radar to give false readings and ghosts. Even more if you have some prankster or disinformation group pranking you. C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico. Anyone can say this when others refuse to believe their favored accounts of events. Dime a dozen. As usual your logic is faulty. For a comparison to be valid it must compare like to like. I did not bring up religious visions but an observed, seen by more than one person at a time in many instances, phenomena which can be photographed. Again you are simply evading the issue and attempting to divert by raising elements not appropriate or related to the discussion. The following is simply more of the same illogic and an avoidance of any actual substance. Name them - the false ways of course. Then demonstrate factually that is what has occurred in every report by a qualified operator. An operator who is a professional and aware of the phenomena of electronic artifacts and knows what it looks like. You are clutching at straws and simply avoiding issues. Rather than looking at the data and making a determination on the data you parrot the disinformation lines simply trying to cast doubt all the while cackling like Mark Twain's hen that laid an asteroid. And again a diversion not addressing any issue or proving a point - simply an attempt to blunt a point which you cannot refute. My Comment: Your reply: Which refutes nothing and logically boils down to "Nyah, nyah; nyah, nyah". Very insigtful. NOT! It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts. That's fine. You are welcome to believe or disbelieve anything you wish. However, your "beliefs" are not founded in fact, and your entire argument simply amounts to denying that there are any facts. Basically it is simply a variation on rule #9 in the rules of disinformation: 9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect. Source: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Nice ass kicking, O_I! May I suggest that this is a good place to add "limited, parochial, provincial and egocentric view" in the future? Thank you, I stand corrected - provincial is most apt in this context. ;-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Even when presented with a specimen of a duck-billed platypus the great minds of London who sponsored the expedition refused to believe that it was anything but a hoax. Faced with the choice of re-writing their classifications or savaging an honest man's reputation, the sheer arrogance in their belief that they knew all there was to know about genus and species left them no choice... "A venomous, fur bearing, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal that lays eggs? You gotta be pulling our baloney..." they insisted. Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.
Ouch. I didn't say it like that. What can I say? My patience is wearing thin. We keep seeing the same disinformation points, and avoidance, and after a while it simply becomes tiresome and repetitive. That is why I generally avoid much discussion on the topic as the scoffers and disinfo artists are sooooooooooo unoriginal. If the topic comes up, and there is one around, invariably you see the same avoidance, disparagement, and attempts to avoid facts. They will not look, they will not evaluate individual reports, and they are uninterested in having relief from their ignorance and narrow mindedness. Which is fine, but I do not have to treat robotic replies with any more dignity than they merit.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Nicely said and all too true. I still have never received a reply from Alan Chapman and it has been 2 1/2 years. ;-) Parallel to your example would be the experience of Dr. Harvey who first mapped the circulatory system, demonstrating the heart was a pump, and being publicly pilloried and villified for doing so. "I would rather err with Galen than be right with Harvey." There are plenty of historical examples of the resistance to ideas that force people to rethink their world view. Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Google has all your answers doesn't it? Talk about lazy! Just as the current power structure has built up the myth of human caused global warming, those before them built up the myth of Einstien's genius and time travel. You can't tell truth from reality because you rely on others to do your thinking for you. Scientists are not any more moral than a used car salesman. They can and do say anything you want them to say for money.
God is always good!
Pardon my ignorance. Although I have an imaginary friend that I met on LSD some 40 years ago, I don't look to him for spiritual renewal or guidance. So, needless to say I don't read The Bible (in all its many forged revisions) and I avoid the Old Testament just as I would a dusty Kabbala manuscript written in blood. Please explain the significance of this chapter and verse? But, hey, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm not against hedging my bets so my medic alert necklace says "No Code-Do Not Resuscitate" and "Please ask God to forgive my sins and tell him that I accept Jesus as my savior before I expire". If I can squeeze into Heaven at the last minute with this cheep(sic) insurance policy (and no one mentions it if I died while being ridden in a reverse cowgirl by a young nigra hoe) then fine. A minor concession while unconscious won't bother me, especially if I didn't have to donate to some pompadour wearing preacher's corporation or modify my lifestyle, i.e. stop singing "The Devil's music!"
You assume we are anything close to intelligent. The evidence is awfully thin for it. We are little removed from cavemen with clubs and enough knowledge to start a fire.
Now that is some super ass kicking! "Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought." Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment. I relate to katz like that.
a video about the 'disclosure project' you can find here: freepressinternational.com/ about 3/4 of the way down
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#126. To: SonOfLiberty (#125)
To me, that's what interstellar awareness of, and communication with, other civilizations will probably end up looking like, given the distances and limitations imposed by the speed of light.
Just speculation of course. Maybe life is teeming out there, using communications we just don't grok yet, and it's one giant galactic version of Vegas going on. If so, sign me up!
#127. To: TooConservative (#126)
#128. To: Eric Stratton (#121)
Generally speaking, what's your take on the Gospel message?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#129. To: TooConservative (#122)
That's how the URL shows it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#130. To: FormerLurker (#128)
#131. To: FormerLurker (#129)
Wrong, the website uses the Hebrew name for Jesus, which is Yahshua, not Yahowshua as you irreverently stated.
Jesus was an Essene.
#132. To: SonOfLiberty (#127)
I'm not a huge fan of the notion "don't explore, you might get hurt", to be honest. Be cautious, yes, but to stop the spirit of exploration, you might as well just nuke us and call us done as a species.
#133. To: Eric Stratton (#130)
As time permits, but allow me to ask the obvious, which "non-men" wrote all that?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#134. To: TooConservative (#131)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#135. To: TooConservative (#131)
And you have to be an ignoramus to think that any of this ancient Hebrew even had vowels in it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#136. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker, HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, all (#108)
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If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
#137. To: FormerLurker (#135)
It must be Jss then, eh?
#138. To: Original_Intent (#136)
A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation.
B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with.
C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico.
#139. To: FormerLurker (#135)
Oh, so I suppose Jesus isn't a real name either, since it has vowels. It must be Jss then, eh?
#140. To: TooConservative (#132)
#141. To: SonOfLiberty (#140)
For all we know, we might be the apex aggressive predator species in the galaxy and just haven't made it off this rock to discover it yet.
#142. To: FormerLurker, TooConserative (#129)
Yahowshua That's how the URL shows it.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#143. To: TooConservative, Rotara, Original_Intent, randge, James_Deffenbach (#111)
If UFOs aren't real, then the global governors have done a fantastic job of manufacturing them...
#144. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker (#141)
An alien species seems likely to be completely unlike us biologically. We have a certain biped bias in our imaginings of aliens because Hollyweird had all those bad sci-fi movies with people dressed up to look like aliens.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#145. To: FormerLurker (#133)
#146. To: HOUNDDAWG (#143)
One alien turns to the other and says, "This really IS a primitive planet. They haven't even exterminated their Jews yet!"
#147. To: wudidiz (#144)
Could be, but then it could also be that most if not all creatures elsewhere in the Universe take on a form similar to us or other animals on Earth due to the development based on rules or laws of fractal geometry.
Maybe they're not bipeds necessarily but grow as one cell then divide and then those two cells divide and so on...
#148. To: FormerLurker (#120)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#149. To: TooConservative (#111)
If UFOs aren't real, then the global governors have done a fantastic job of manufacturing them...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#150. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative, FormerLurker, wudidiz, christine (#136)
#151. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#69)
It's not convincing. People say this but I would like to know how they got so much experience of the universe that they know this as a fact or even as a probability.
#152. To: HOUNDDAWG, TooConservative, all (#150)
"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"
#153. To: Original_Intent (#151)
It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
#154. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent, TooConservative, FormerLurker, christine (#150)
"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#155. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative (#151)
It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#156. To: TooConservative (#138)
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A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation.
There are lots of ways for radar to give false readings and ghosts. Even more if you have some prankster or disinformation group pranking you.
"Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she laid an asteroid." ~ Mark Twain
C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico.
Anyone can say this when others refuse to believe their favored accounts of events. Dime a dozen.
#157. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)
It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
#158. To: Original_Intent (#152)
Or it simply might be that by pure chance we were located at an interstellar crossroads, and the visitors are just stopping to gawk at the natives. I do admit I always find it amusing when someone, such our erstwhile interlocutor, asserts some version of the "we're the only intelligent life in the universe and this is the only inhabited planet, line of reasoning. It has no foundation other than an unwillingness to look at the available data and drawing a logical conclusion. However, who ever said the human race is logical?
#159. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#155)
It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
#160. To: HOUNDDAWG (#158)
Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.
#161. To: FormerLurker (#118)
#162. To: wudidiz, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, wudidiz, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#154)
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Genesis 6:1-2
#163. To: Original_Intent (#151)
It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.
#164. To: Original_Intent (#160)
#165. To: TooConservative, ALL (#163)
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