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Title: U.N. VEHICLES BY THE THOUSANDS STAGED IN FLORIDA
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Published: Jun 11, 2010
Author: autocollisionman
Post Date: 2010-06-27 08:11:32 by Itistoolate
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#3. To: Itistoolate (#0)
Looking further, I find some of those dots apparently don't connect. For instance, Pegasus International is not connected to Pegasus Technologies. Two entirely different outfits. The airpark is owned by the county, not Pegasus. However, it is also said that that operation is a holding company. There is also a bunch of rumors that these are satellite-equipped vans for Directv. And also that it all ties in with the old GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) which was supposed to safeguard the president's ability to launch a nuclear attack if a EMP nuke was exploded over North America. I assume that the capability is still there but these sites are now also being used for multipositional GPS transmitters, the kind that uses a ground signal to make professional surveying GPS equipment accurate down to within a few inches.
Do you believe we are very close to martial law and a NWO? Or are you a 'disinformation specialist?
Or are you a 'disinformation specialist? You mean, one of Them? LOL. I'm afraid I'm not that sinister. I do get fascinated by wild hoaxes, usually perpetrated by internet hoaxters or by Alex Jones or George Noory or those types. A good recent example was the controversy over McChrystal's firing. I saw all the Right getting hot, thinking that this good patriotic conservative general had been railroaded by the evil Lefties at Rolling Stone. Then Armbinder at The Atlantic, a very well-connected guy, comes out and says "Now it can be revealed..." that McChrystal was an Obama voter, is a social liberal and a political liberal and banned Fox News from being seen at his command in Af-Pak, also that he was engaged in liberal social engineering of the Afghan population in his areas. So it wasn't some valiant conservative patriot general being railroaded. It was a Lefty general getting in trouble because a Lefty reporter wrote some stuff about their drinking spree which caused our Lefty president to fire the general. Once this was revealed, those on the Right lost all interest in McChrystal. What is interesting is how quickly they rallied around General Petraeus. You are probably familiar with how the mindset on the Right works: as soon as one tin god falls, you must immediately replace him with another one. Then all is well. LOL. It is interesting to track down all the different conflicting rumors on something like the Florida vans, see how they cross-pollinate each other (often as an obvious result of Google searching a topic). We see Sorcha Faal was finally exposed as a hoax. The one that keeps popping up that hasn't been fully investigated is Debkafile. I think they're a Mossad operation, meant to swirl rumors about Israel and the Mideast, to muddy the internet waters with disinfo and misdirection. Or to break "stories" at a key moment and distract people from other factual reporting on Israel and the Mideast. For instance, recently Debka ran a bunch of stuff on American ships and Israeli submarines preparing to attack Iran, hyping it as much as possible. That filtered around the internet, distracting from the boarding of the flotilla, the situation in Gaza, etc. I've noticed this same thing before, that Debka surfaces most strongly with its wildest stories just when the internet folk (supporters of Israel, especially among American evangelicals) need to be distracted from actual news about Israel or the Mideast. It's all a little too tidy, it seems to me. Of course, Debka might be just some amateur propagandizing. Or Debka might be connected with Mossad or with Israeli state department or Likud (probably) or Israeli arms manufacturers or whatever. Given the incredible variety and constant arguing on these topics by Jews in the States and Israel, who really knows just who Debka is connected to. Or if they're just attention whores. Even going by what they themselves say about their sources, it is obvious they can easily be manipulated by Israeli government sources and/or Likud.
CERBERUS — GUARDING THE GATES OF HELL?? « The Story Behind The Story Jun 4, 2010 ... “Pegasus International” owns and operates Pegasus Technologies – which is involved in a neat little NSA/CIA operation titled the ... atrueott.wordpress.com/20...arding-the-gates-of-hell/ CERBERUS — GUARDING THE GATES OF HELL?? Filed under: Uncategorized by atrueott — 30 Comments June 4, 2010 UPDATED INFORMATION ON GPS COORDINATES ON GOOGLE MAPS AND GOOGLE EARTH!! Also, since this article was posted, I have received documentation that the vans are the property of DirectTV, and are being outfitted with new GWEN TOWER and Satellite accessing technologies. Doesn’t that make you feel better?? (How can the CIA and NSA collect data for the new “Data Collection Center” in Utah — do you think they would use vans with government license plates and CIA/NSA Collections on the side – or would they use a cover corporation such as DirectTV??) Open Google Earth and enter these GPS coordinates: 29.972464, and 81.660923. The You-tube video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...A&feature=player_embedded is a bit spurious and misinforming to say the least. First, this is not an “Air Force Base” — it is a PRIVATELY OWNED FACILITY known as “Reynolds Airpark” a private Airport and “manufacturing facility”. A Mr. Ted McGowan is the manager – and their phone number is: 904-284-3505. Second, these are not “U.N. Vehicles”. These white vans belong to Pegasus International and Cerberus/DynCorp. Check it out: www.airport-data.com/airport/FL60/ and the latest (May 28, 2010) picture of the airport at: www.airport-data.com/airport/photo/017237.html.html Now, for the BAD NEWS — “Reynolds Airpark” is listed in the Clay County Fla. plat/tax rolls as being wholly owned by a company named Pegasus International. Ok, I thought, what exactly is “Pegasus International” and what exactly do they do?? Well – among other things, they just happen to be involved in the OIL DRILLING BUSINESS – with ties to Halliburton and BRITISH PETROLEUM!!! What the hell??? See their website at: www.pegasus-international.com/site.php Then, of all things, they just happen to have an office in Salt Lake City, Utah. Here is where the plot thickens. Their SLC office also houses Dick Cheney’s Halliburton, and is next to the Minerals Management Service (MMS) offices. Worse, their U.K. office “address” is next door to (or possibly even a part of) British Petroleum as well. What is going on?? They also have “offices” in Turkmenistan, Nigeria, and Azerbijan – hotbeds of political intrigue and profiteering for BP. See www.universalpegasus.com/locations.php But — it gets worse, if possible. “Pegasus International” owns and operates Pegasus Technologies – which is involved in a neat little NSA/CIA operation titled the “Information Sharing Council” or ISC. Their “unclassified” 2006 report can be seen at www.ise.gov/docs/eds/edspo-conops.pdf. A careful reading of this document shows that part of the “Pegasus Program” is the deployment of thousands of vehicles across America, outfitted with domestic spying “Maximum Information Technology” (MaxIT) systems. MaxIT is a joint venture of the following companies: Appriss Inc., Bio-Key International, Inc., Business Communications Inc., Circadence Corporation, Cquay Technologies, Dell, eLabs Inc., MS e-Center and Sun Microsystems. (See 12/12/03 report on www.eetimes.com/press_rel...cleID=117687&CompanyId=1) When I studied DynCorp International, I found that DynCorp and Pegasus International are basically joined at the hips with many international “joint projects”. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that DynCorp, and Pegasus are CIA FRONT COMPANIES involved in the deepest black ops. (See NanoTech expose in “Dr. Ott’s Papers” on this website.) Also, check this out. Dyncorp Int. was “purchased” back on April 12 by Cerberus Capital, and the “deal” was brokered by, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs who SHORTED TRANSOCEAN STOCKS on April 17, three days before the Gulf Oil debacle began. See finance.yahoo.com/news/Dy...-3625293200.html?x=0&.v=1 WHAT IN THE GATES OF HELL IS GOING ON????? Here we have VISUAL PROOF of hundreds of vehicles undergoing modifications by Pegasus International teams at their Reynolds AirPark facility, all indications of MaxIT information is that the process involved is basically making the vehicles ultra-modern “spy-mobiles” (the on-line google-earth picture was dated Jan. 2008, while the most current picture of May 28, 2010 -shows the spy-vans still on property.) We also now know that Dyncorp is now Cerberus, and they are tied to Pegasus International. So, what’s in a name? Consider that Pegasus and Cerberus are both central figures of Greek (and Roman) mythology. Pegasus is the preferred mode of transportation for the pantheon of gods, while Cerberus — well — this is the mythical guardian of the gates of hell! What would possess anybody to name their corporation Cerberus??? This world is in deep trouble, it would appear.
Those evacuations are for a possible hurricane, not the oil spill. They want to make sure that oil recovery workers and operations don't impede a coastal evacuation if a big hurricane like Andrew hits FL again. They do these preparations every year. It's a big nothing. They're just updating their plans to make some allowances for a hurricane coming during a big oil spill. It isn't sinister.
OWNING THE WEATHER AND OUR MINDS IN 2008? January 27, 2008 In 1997, Former Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen (above left) said the technology to alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves is real! This statement would immediately make a person think about the 2004 Sumatra earthquake, tsunami and hurricane Katrina. http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=674 In 2001, Congressman Kucinich (above) introduced a bill talking about through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such populations. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH: US AIR FORCE: Weather as a Force Multiplier. Owning the Weather in 2025 http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
Was that before or after his encounter with the UFO? Kucinich isn't very credible.
Kucinich isn't very credible. Ah, the giggle factor. A conditioned response by years of psychological conditioning in the media and by government. Then follow with a logical fallacy i.e. "guilt by association". So we get the presentation that: Implied Premise: UFOs do not exist. And then the logical fallacy based upon the background of the implied premise. Anyone who has seen a UFO is a kook. All founded upon a false and fallacious chain of reasoning, founded upon a psychologically planted "giggle factor" to encourage people not to look, not to think, and to accept an opinion based not upon evidence, but upon sheer repetition, by an "authority", of an unsupported assertion. While it is not my intent to get off onto a UFO debate the sheer volume of case reports, witness reports etc., all point to an indefinite percentage of UFO reports to be aircraft of some kind. By definition they are unidentified. Further, one can examine the other available reports and reasonably conclude that not all are of terrestrial origin. There too many reports from too many credible witnesses to conclude otherwise. I am not going to bother to go through the evidenciary chain, but the data is there, and mostly in the public domain. One site filled with good reportage is www.sightings.com
I agree, it is a script, commonly used against people like Ron Paul, to "innoculate" the public against Bad Bad Thoughts. But sometimes a nut really is a nut. Like Kucinich. He also swore he wouldn't vote for ObummerCare. But he did after one little plane ride on Air Force One. And, unlike Paul, he has ranted and said stupid things for decades. All? Indefinite? Make up your mind. And no one has ever doubted that some UFOs are unidentified aircraft. And it has been proven repeatedly that this is so. It doesn't help the argument you are trying to make at all.
All? Indefinite? Make up your mind. Lame. Yes, indefinite - it means some percentage unknown. It means nothing else other than the exact percentage is not known. I would say at least 5% are bonafide UFO observations. However, when you are dealing in a subject not fully explored you are always dealing in "indefinites" which are subject to change at any time with the introduction of new data. And since the government seems intent on keeping that data unknown any research is opposed and is funded personally by those doing the research. You didn't really think I was going to let you get away with such a deceptive argument did you? UFO means Unidentified Flying Object - therefore calling an unknown an unidentified "aircraft" is an unsupported assertion. We do not know what they are whether "aircraft", spacecraft, or something else. We can look at the most reliable witness reports, and the objective information such as photographs and video, and hypothesize based on the evidence. Likely some indefinite percentage are black budget "above Top Secret" aircraft but we cannot assert that ALL are. As well some of the reports, such as radar, put the speed and maneuverability of some of these objects well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. Others are of such huge size as to dwarf a Football Stadium. One sighting, by a family member of mine, was of an object so large that it covered the entire extent of the sky, over the high mountain valley we lived in, from horizon to horizon. I know of no known government craft built to that scale nor is there in evidence a propulsion system that could move such an object in total silence. A few military people have begun to speak - taken at face value it confirms that some percentage of the UFO's are in fact of non-terrestrial origin, and are well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. While there is no doubt in my mind that the most advanced technology in the black budget programs is 20 to 40 years in advance of what is spoken of publicly too many of the reports evidence an apparent technology well in advance of that which is believed to be in those black budget programs.
Or swamp gas or old weather balloons. Some UFO sightings have been proved to be nothing else. But not all. No doubt. I think the Air Force makes use of this to conceal tests and may instigate UFO reports so they can debunk them. It would be handy for them to have such a distracting body of work to draw upon, especially during any institutional crisis. Maybe the gooberment has a projection technology to create such atmospheric effects. Or a resonance generator that induces hallucinations that follow a familiar cultural trajectory in those exposed to it. Too many? How many of these reports becomes "too many"? What is the threshold? One hundred? Five thousand? You speak as though a certain threshold has been passed without defining what the threshold is or what the criteria is for judging the standard to have been met. You keep trying to jump from speculation to wudi's corner where you end up citing statistical improbabilities despite the fact we know very little about the universe or even our own galaxy. We have quite a lot of vanity considering how little we actually do know. And scientists have a professional and financial stake in elevating their claims to knowledge, no different than the old tribal witch doctors did. If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island? Why doe any Anthropologist study other cultures and races? Your question presumes something not in evidence and I don't have to posit the "Theory of Realtivity" to observe the existence of an unexplained phenomena. Unexplained is by definition unexplained - yet. As for the rest of your post you are just throwing shit against the wall hoping some of it will stick. I do not claim to have all the answers. My only assertions are: A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation. B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with. C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico. D. As for the reports. Read them yourself. Many are available on line and the data is what the data is. It is not what people's preferred preconceptions or world view would prefer it to be. I already gave you a starting link and I will repeat it again for your edification and enlightenment: Sightings Website. However, the old saw about "there is none so blind as he who will not see" would seem to apply. You have reached a conclusion, absent any data to support it, and are simply throwing up objections and diversions rather than examining the data. That's fine, it's an old tradition called "closed mindedness". You are perfectly welcome to your point of view. I do not share it, and I would encourage all intelligent and curious people to examine the data rather than to dismiss without inspection. Although dismissing without looking does offer one great advantage - you are never at risk of learning anything which might upset your preconceptions.
"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?" As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else? "Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island?" Meade actually departed from the discipline of science and attempted to prove that tribal intelligence (such as head shrinking skills and insect soup recipes) are equal to the study of particle physics, but our bigotry and false belief in our superiority blinded us to the proper ways to compare them and us. I suspect that alien visitors use us the way we use frogs to teach biology 101, or they make fertilizer out of our precious bodily fluids as depicted in the latest remake of WAR OF THE WORLDS.
As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else? "Why was Margaret Meade interested in studying a remote primitive tribe on an isolated island?" Meade actually departed from the discipline of science and attempted to prove that tribal intelligence (such as head shrinking skills and insect soup recipes) are equal to the study of particle physics, but our bigotry and false belief in our superiority blinded us to the proper ways to compare them and us. I suspect that alien visitors use us the way we use frogs to teach biology 101, or they make fertilizer out of our precious bodily fluids as depicted in the latest remake of WAR OF THE WORLDS. Or it simply might be that by pure chance we were located at an interstellar crossroads, and the visitors are just stopping to gawk at the natives. I do admit I always find it amusing when someone, such our erstwhile interlocutor, asserts some version of the "we're the only intelligent life in the universe and this is the only inhabited planet, line of reasoning. It has no foundation other than an unwillingness to look at the available data and drawing a logical conclusion. However, who ever said the human race is logical?
Even when presented with a specimen of a duck-billed platypus the great minds of London who sponsored the expedition refused to believe that it was anything but a hoax. Faced with the choice of re-writing their classifications or savaging an honest man's reputation, the sheer arrogance in their belief that they knew all there was to know about genus and species left them no choice... "A venomous, fur bearing, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal that lays eggs? You gotta be pulling our baloney..." they insisted. Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.
#160. To: HOUNDDAWG (#158)
Nicely said and all too true. I still have never received a reply from Alan Chapman and it has been 2 1/2 years. ;-) Parallel to your example would be the experience of Dr. Harvey who first mapped the circulatory system, demonstrating the heart was a pump, and being publicly pilloried and villified for doing so. "I would rather err with Galen than be right with Harvey." There are plenty of historical examples of the resistance to ideas that force people to rethink their world view. Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought.
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#4. To: TooConservative (#3)
#5. To: Itistoolate (#4)
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Do you believe we are very close to martial law and a NWO?
#6. To: TooConservative (#5)
#7. To: Itistoolate, all (#6)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
BP, the Coast Guard and the state of Lousiana have already been talking about how to coordinate evacuations so workers and equipment involved in the oil spill response don't clog highway escape routes.
#14. To: TooConservative (#9)
Those evacuations are for a possible hurricane, not the oil spill. They want to make sure that oil recovery workers and operations don't impede a coastal evacuation if a big hurricane like Andrew hits FL again.
#15. To: Itistoolate (#14)
In 2001, Congressman Kucinich
#16. To: TooConservative, Itistoolate, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#15)
Was that before or after his encounter with the UFO?
Kucinich has seen a UFO
Therefore Kucinich is a kook.
Corrolary: Using the fallacy of Guilt by Association, anything which Kucinich says is not credible.
#20. To: Original_Intent (#16)
Anyone who has seen a UFO is a kook. Kucinich has seen a UFO Therefore Kucinich is a kook. Corrolary: Using the fallacy of Guilt by Association, anything which Kucinich says is not credible.
While it is not my intent to get off onto a UFO debate the sheer volume of case reports, witness reports etc., all point to an indefinite percentage of UFO reports to be aircraft of some kind.
#106. To: TooConservative (#20)
While it is not my intent to get off onto a UFO debate the sheer volume of case reports, witness reports etc., all point to an indefinite percentage of UFO reports to be aircraft of some kind.
And no one has ever doubted that some UFOs are unidentified aircraft. And it has been proven repeatedly that this is so. It doesn't help the argument you are trying to make at all.
#108. To: Original_Intent (#106)
You didn't really think I was going to let you get away with such a deceptive argument did you? UFO means Unidentified Flying Object - therefore calling an unknown an unidentified "aircraft" is an unsupported assertion. We do not know what they are whether "aircraft", spacecraft, or something else.
Likely some indefinite percentage are black budget "above Top Secret" aircraft but we cannot assert that ALL are.
As well some of the reports, such as radar, put the speed and maneuverability of some of these objects well in advance of any known terrestrial technology. Others are of such huge size as to dwarf a Football Stadium. One sighting, by a family member of mine, was of an object so large that it covered the entire extent of the sky, over the high mountain valley we lived in, from horizon to horizon. I know of no known government craft built to that scale nor is there in evidence a propulsion system that could move such an object in total silence.
While there is no doubt in my mind that the most advanced technology in the black budget programs is 20 to 40 years in advance of what is spoken of publicly too many of the reports evidence an apparent technology well in advance of that which is believed to be in those black budget programs.
#136. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker, HOUNDDAWG, wudidiz, all (#108)
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If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?
#150. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative, FormerLurker, wudidiz, christine (#136)
#152. To: HOUNDDAWG, TooConservative, all (#150)
"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"
#158. To: Original_Intent (#152)
Or it simply might be that by pure chance we were located at an interstellar crossroads, and the visitors are just stopping to gawk at the natives. I do admit I always find it amusing when someone, such our erstwhile interlocutor, asserts some version of the "we're the only intelligent life in the universe and this is the only inhabited planet, line of reasoning. It has no foundation other than an unwillingness to look at the available data and drawing a logical conclusion. However, who ever said the human race is logical?
Replies to Comment # 158. Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.
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