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Title: U.N. VEHICLES BY THE THOUSANDS STAGED IN FLORIDA
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#154. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent, TooConservative, FormerLurker, christine (#150)

"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"

As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else?

Genesis 6:1-2


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-28   16:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative (#151)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

Ouch.

I didn't say it like that.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-28   16:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: TooConservative (#138) (Edited)

A. There is an unexplained phenomena that has been observed by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Many of the observers have no apparent pecuniary motivation and are of known sound mind and reputation.

So you would accept the miraculous claims of seeing Marian apparitions by Catholics? How about miraculous claims made by other religions (that always support their religion)?

I don't think you really practice this.

B. The phenomena observed e.g., velocities measured in thousands of miles per hour, rapid changes in direction, lights, etc., are not explainable in terms of any known terrestrial technology. Attempts to explain it away are just that - avoidance and attempts to explain away information that might actually result in a view of the universe different than the one a person with an open mind begins with.

There are lots of ways for radar to give false readings and ghosts. Even more if you have some prankster or disinformation group pranking you.

C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico.

Anyone can say this when others refuse to believe their favored accounts of events. Dime a dozen.

As usual your logic is faulty.

For a comparison to be valid it must compare like to like. I did not bring up religious visions but an observed, seen by more than one person at a time in many instances, phenomena which can be photographed.

Again you are simply evading the issue and attempting to divert by raising elements not appropriate or related to the discussion.

The following is simply more of the same illogic and an avoidance of any actual substance.

There are lots of ways for radar to give false readings and ghosts. Even more if you have some prankster or disinformation group pranking you.

Name them - the false ways of course.

Then demonstrate factually that is what has occurred in every report by a qualified operator. An operator who is a professional and aware of the phenomena of electronic artifacts and knows what it looks like.

You are clutching at straws and simply avoiding issues. Rather than looking at the data and making a determination on the data you parrot the disinformation lines simply trying to cast doubt all the while cackling like Mark Twain's hen that laid an asteroid.

"Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she laid an asteroid." ~ Mark Twain

And again a diversion not addressing any issue or proving a point - simply an attempt to blunt a point which you cannot refute.

My Comment:

C. The Federal Government has, by all appearances, followed a program of cover-up, denial, and disregard of the phenomena which is contradicted by leaked documents and testimony of people in government service of an intense interest in the phenomena. This is evidenced by the multiple staged events to tell the sheeple "go back to sleep and continue grazing" e.g., (the most well known) the multiple cover stories and denials over an apparent crash site at Roswell, New Mexico.

Your reply:

Anyone can say this when others refuse to believe their favored accounts of events. Dime a dozen.

Which refutes nothing and logically boils down to "Nyah, nyah; nyah, nyah".

Very insigtful. NOT!

It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts.

That's fine. You are welcome to believe or disbelieve anything you wish. However, your "beliefs" are not founded in fact, and your entire argument simply amounts to denying that there are any facts. Basically it is simply a variation on rule #9 in the rules of disinformation:

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Source: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   16:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: HOUNDDAWG (#153)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

Nice ass kicking, O_I!

May I suggest that this is a good place to add "limited, parochial, provincial and egocentric view" in the future?

Thank you, I stand corrected - provincial is most apt in this context. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   16:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Original_Intent (#152)

Or it simply might be that by pure chance we were located at an interstellar crossroads, and the visitors are just stopping to gawk at the natives. I do admit I always find it amusing when someone, such our erstwhile interlocutor, asserts some version of the "we're the only intelligent life in the universe and this is the only inhabited planet, line of reasoning. It has no foundation other than an unwillingness to look at the available data and drawing a logical conclusion. However, who ever said the human race is logical?

Even when presented with a specimen of a duck-billed platypus the great minds of London who sponsored the expedition refused to believe that it was anything but a hoax. Faced with the choice of re-writing their classifications or savaging an honest man's reputation, the sheer arrogance in their belief that they knew all there was to know about genus and species left them no choice...

"A venomous, fur bearing, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal that lays eggs? You gotta be pulling our baloney..." they insisted.

Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#155)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

Ouch.

I didn't say it like that.

What can I say? My patience is wearing thin. We keep seeing the same disinformation points, and avoidance, and after a while it simply becomes tiresome and repetitive. That is why I generally avoid much discussion on the topic as the scoffers and disinfo artists are sooooooooooo unoriginal. If the topic comes up, and there is one around, invariably you see the same avoidance, disparagement, and attempts to avoid facts. They will not look, they will not evaluate individual reports, and they are uninterested in having relief from their ignorance and narrow mindedness. Which is fine, but I do not have to treat robotic replies with any more dignity than they merit.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   17:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: HOUNDDAWG (#158)

Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.

Nicely said and all too true. I still have never received a reply from Alan Chapman and it has been 2 1/2 years. ;-)

Parallel to your example would be the experience of Dr. Harvey who first mapped the circulatory system, demonstrating the heart was a pump, and being publicly pilloried and villified for doing so. "I would rather err with Galen than be right with Harvey."

There are plenty of historical examples of the resistance to ideas that force people to rethink their world view. Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   17:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: FormerLurker (#118)

Google has all your answers doesn't it? Talk about lazy!

Just as the current power structure has built up the myth of human caused global warming, those before them built up the myth of Einstien's genius and time travel. You can't tell truth from reality because you rely on others to do your thinking for you. Scientists are not any more moral than a used car salesman. They can and do say anything you want them to say for money.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-06-28   17:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: wudidiz, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, wudidiz, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#154) (Edited)

Genesis 6:1-2

Pardon my ignorance.

Although I have an imaginary friend that I met on LSD some 40 years ago, I don't look to him for spiritual renewal or guidance. So, needless to say I don't read The Bible (in all its many forged revisions) and I avoid the Old Testament just as I would a dusty Kabbala manuscript written in blood.

Please explain the significance of this chapter and verse?

But, hey, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm not against hedging my bets so my medic alert necklace says "No Code-Do Not Resuscitate" and "Please ask God to forgive my sins and tell him that I accept Jesus as my savior before I expire".

If I can squeeze into Heaven at the last minute with this cheep(sic) insurance policy (and no one mentions it if I died while being ridden in a reverse cowgirl by a young nigra hoe) then fine. A minor concession while unconscious won't bother me, especially if I didn't have to donate to some pompadour wearing preacher's corporation or modify my lifestyle, i.e. stop singing "The Devil's music!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Original_Intent (#151)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

You assume we are anything close to intelligent. The evidence is awfully thin for it. We are little removed from cavemen with clubs and enough knowledge to start a fire.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   17:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Original_Intent (#160)

Now that is some super ass kicking!

"Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought."

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

I relate to katz like that.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: TooConservative, ALL (#163)

a video about the 'disclosure project' you can find here: freepressinternational.com/ about 3/4 of the way down

www.disclosureproject.org/

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-28   17:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: TooConservative, Original_Intent (#163)

intelligent

Intelligence is a relative and fundamental concept. It could be defined for members of the nekton group as "having evolved enough to solve the problem of staying off the ocean floor".

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Original_Intent (#156)

Very insigtful. NOT!

It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts.

Ah, so what have we learned on this thread then?

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   17:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Itistoolate, Turtle, Original_Intent (#165)

www.disclosureproject.org/

"On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena."

_________________________

Well, our severe and unsympathetic critics (like Turtle) weren't there, and like an ostrich with its head in the sand (or in Turtle's case buried elsewhere) the looming threat in the form of a predator (or to someone's primitive superstitions/religious beliefs) simply doesn't exist if it isn't seen.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   18:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: HOUNDDAWG (#164)

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

There is no evidence for this myth. Kind of like the story about Washington and the cherry tree.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   18:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: HOUNDDAWG (#166)

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

To any race capable of star-travel, we would be animals. Not cute or cuddly ones either.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   18:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: TooConservative, all (#167)

Very insigtful. NOT!

It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts.

Ah, so what have we learned on this thread then?

* UFOs have visited Shirley MacLaine, Dennis Kucinich and possibly you as well. * Your family member has seen a UFO big enough to cover a mountain valley from horizon to horizon. * Government radar systems are incapble of error or being spoofed (despite the common knowledge that radar is easy to spoof and that weather routinely causes all kinds of false radar readings during inversions and other weather situations). * You feel persecuted by diabolical forces if anyone doubts your pet theories for which you can muster no evidence whatsoever.

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

Yawn. Back to disinfo mode I see.

Logical Fallacies Violated:

Guilt by Association: I don't recall mentioning Shirley McClaine, and whether she claims to have seen one or not refutes what part of the evidenciary record?

Government radar systems are incapble of error or being spoofed (despite the common knowledge that radar is easy to spoof and that weather routinely causes all kinds of false radar readings during inversions and other weather situations).

Did I make that assertion? No.

Fallacies Violated:

Argumentum Ad Hominem
Weak Analogy
Red Herring

Of course as a skilled disinformationist you avoided stating a position of your own and engaged logical fallacies to camouflage the omission. So, you intentionally try to create the impression, falsely, that all anomalous Radar tracks, by skilled operators, are in error - without of course bothering to present any proof of that assertion. Scary stuff this Radar, why every day we have thousands of lives at risk of the unreliable displays of this quirky device. Gosh I'll bet there were at least a hundred mid-air collisions today. Right? We need to tell Air Traffic Controllers nationwide to immediately cease relying upon this quirky and unreliable contraption.

As both a Radar Operator and Sonar Operator I can tell you that it is part of the training to be able to recognize spurious blips and electronic artifacts.

You feel persecuted by diabolical forces if anyone doubts your pet theories for which you can muster no evidence whatsoever.

Yawn. Now you presume to tell me what I think. And it is not MY pet theory, it is a position shared by a great many people. In fact I do believe everyone on this thread except you. Do you feel persecuted for holding a position which you have supported with nothing more substantial than logical fallacies and disinformation tactics? One which is itself regarded as contrary to what the body of evidence supports? And I am not your research librarian. I long ago gave up posting proofs for scoffers and shills. If you want to examine the available mountains of evidence honestly well I have twice given you a link to a good website to use as a starting point. Just to show what a magnanimous and big hearted kind of guy I am here it is again: Sightings.com.

And as I have told you at least twice before on this thread you are welcome to believe whatever you wish. You can ignore and avoid the data to your heart's content, and I frankly don't give a damn. Just don't continue to pee on my foot and then try and convince me it's raining.

Another disinfo tactic/logical fallacy:

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

Two items, unsupported, which are disrelated and as such prove nothing. Nothing that is other than you appear incapable of constructing a rational argument that does not rely on personal attacks. Why is that? Why is it that you continue to use the tactics of a disinformation specialist? Is that your specialty? Disinformation that is?

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

ROFLMFAO! I think it was about 60 or 70 posts ago I graciously conceded that you are welcome to believe whatever you wish, just as I am quite capable of holding my own views, based upon the mountains of evidence you refuse to look at or acknowledge, and feel no compulsion whatsoever to share your viewpoint, whatever it may be given the confused mishmash of your arguments.

Do have a nice day.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   18:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: TooConservative, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#170)

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

To any race capable of star-travel, we would be animals. Not cute or cuddly ones either.

And your proof of that assertion is?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Original_Intent (#171) (Edited)

As both a Radar Operator and Sonar Operator I can tell you that it is part of the training to be able to recognize spurious blips and electronic artifacts.

Radar and sonar. My, my. And what job did you have that provided professional training in both?

BTW, among these UFO accounts are reports of planes chasing down spurious radar blips which proved to be the images of a ship on the water which were reflected due to a double-inversion. Since you like these eyewitness accounts so much (unless they conflict with one of your pet theories).

ROFLMFAO! I think it was about 60 or 70 posts ago I graciously conceded that you are welcome to believe whatever you wish,...

Ah, very generous of you.

just as I am quite capable of holding my own views, based upon the mountains of evidence you refuse to look at or acknowledge, and feel no compulsion whatsoever to share your viewpoint, whatever it may be given the confused mishmash of your arguments.

I see. Lack of mere evidence doesn't rattle your certainties at all.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   19:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: HOUNDDAWG (#164)

Now that is some super ass kicking!

It had built up over a couple other threads with varied exchanges. That was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position. Do you think I was too harsh on him. ;-)

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

So it is reputed. They put him under house arrest for the rest of his life as well.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:04:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Original_Intent (#174)

That was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position.

Not at all. I demonstrated adequately that your beliefs are faith-based and that you can produce no evidence whatsoever.

I am well satisfied with it.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   19:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: TooConservative (#173)

I see. Lack of mere evidence doesn't rattle your certainties at all.

I feel, and am not under, no compulsion to waste my time looking up and posting data which you would promptly ignore.

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter. I gave you the link. What you do with it is your prerogative. I am not going to waste time doing your homework for you as your personal belief is a matter of some indifference to me.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: TooConservative (#175)

at was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position.

Not at all. I demonstrated adequately that your beliefs are faith-based and that you can produce no evidence whatsoever.

We weren't talking about my comments to you - it was regarding an earlier debate with someone else - unless you used to post as "Alan Chapman". You need to learn to read more carefully before inserting your foot.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Original_Intent (#176)

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter.

Right. So "ambivalent" you had to hijack an entire thread because I made a one-liner crack and a little photo of nutjob two-face Comrade Kucinich.

But, yeah, I can see how "ambivalent" you are. It's so obvious really.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: TooConservative (#178)

Thousands of UN Vehicles and Tons of Equipment Masking At Florida Airbase? UPDATE

theintelhub.com/2010/05/2...-vehicles-masking-at-afb/

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-28   21:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Original_Intent (#177)

We weren't talking about my comments to you - it was regarding an earlier debate with someone else - unless you used to post as "Alan Chapman". You need to learn to read more carefully before inserting your foot.

I thought you were referring to me since you had directed so many posts my way.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: TooConservative (#178)

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter.

Right. So "ambivalent" you had to hijack an entire thread because I made a one-liner crack and a little photo of nutjob two-face Comrade Kucinich.

But, yeah, I can see how "ambivalent" you are. It's so obvious really.

I am not ambivalent to the use of false logic and disinformation tactics, which is what you were doing in that post (#15 on this thread). I objected then, and now, to the false assertion that an objective view of the UFO phenomena, or having sighted one, perforce makes one a kook, and your argument to that affect was dishonest and logically fallacious.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   21:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Itistoolate (#179) (Edited)

Thousands of UN Vehicles and Tons of Equipment Masking At Florida Airbase? UPDATE

Update: As of now there is confirmation that there are currently NO vehicles present at this moment. It appears the vehicles have been moved between Feb. and now. Thanks to a dedicated Intel Soldier known as Gortz, we have solved this one. We will keep you posted if anything changes. For the people that believe that Kia Motors stored that many vehicles of the same model in a private airport, wow…

And now that they're gone, no one can prove whether they were U.N. or just surplus vehicles that Kia couldn't get sold in a slow economy.

Did Gortz (or his mysterious friend Klaatu) ever consider asking the management who owned them, why they were there. No, that would be too obvious, wouldn't it? That is exactly what They (a.k.a. THEM) would want you to do. But we can fight back, can't we, by posting a few more hysterical webpages with no evidence of anything on them, just a bunch of wild accusations.

I guess it's an update, sort of.

Hey, maybe the U.N. vans went to where they keep the Black Helicopters. Maybe Gortz could go check into that.

Still, thanks for the update. It is more info than we had when the thread started. I first heard about these vans over six months ago. Maybe we will yet find out who owns them and where they went. I'd just like to know, having seen a number of these U.N.-killer-van threads.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Original_Intent (#181)

I am not ambivalent to the use of false logic and disinformation tactics, which is what you were doing in that post (#15 on this thread). I objected then, and now, to the false assertion that an objective view of the UFO phenomena, or having sighted one, perforce makes one a kook, and your argument to that affect was dishonest and logically fallacious.

I can't tell whether I'm an ignoramus resisting the golden light of your truth (although you are indifferent to such petty matters) or if I am a "disinformation specialist" who you are battling with all your might. I don't think I can be both, at least not credibly.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: FormerLurker (#116)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-06-28   22:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: TooConservative (#182)

And now that they're gone, no one can prove whether they were U.N. or just surplus vehicles that Kia couldn't get sold in a slow economy.

No links...just a recounting of what I read. Several parts of I-20 in Alabama with those exit ramp barricades were in effect... Traffic back ups for miles.. And at every barricade their were some of those unmarked white vans...

These may not be the same vans... Then again I do not think it is a coincidence.

People in florida are starting to get sick. Some have had lung failure. MSM has not reported on it but then again they are not reporting on the sick either.

And with Hurricane Alex pushing the storm surge in everywhere.... Those folks that have not left yet may be moved in those white Vans.

titorite  posted on  2010-06-28   22:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: TooConservative (#167)

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

LOL!

Yeah, it would be great to find some intelligent life here on Earth. But so far all I see is dumb and dumber. Sure there are spirits, angels and demons, maybe that is what these people are seeing and not realizing it since they are convinced in their heart that there is no God or no devil. I don't say their mind, because no one is that dumb to not know we were created, they just reject it with all their heart.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-06-29   0:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: HOUNDDAWG, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#162) (Edited)

(TC)"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"

(HD)As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else?

(Moi)Genesis 6:1-2

TooConservative asked wtf the aliens would want to do with us. You said they're after our white wimmen. I quoted a verse from the Old Testament saying Exactly that.

Genesis 6:1-2

6-1 When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 6-2 the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose.

This verse imo refers to aliens mating with humans. (Male aliens mating with female humans.)(or aliens injecting female humans with their DNA)

So we are alien hybrids. Which would explain why we are so very different from every single one of all the species on the planet. It is a theme of every Religion on the planet too.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   0:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: All (#187)

aliens

Not from Mexico.

lol


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   0:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Rotara (#148)

...Jesus came to abolish religion and create relationship with the Living God Almighty directly.

Says who? The Roman Catholic Church effectively became the new Roman Empire, and ruled the Western World for close to 2000 years. Dissent was not allowed, and was met with torture and death.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: RickyJ (#161)

Just as the current power structure has built up the myth of human caused global warming, those before them built up the myth of Einstien's genius and time travel.

Is nuclear fission and fusion also a myth?

Just because SOME political pressure is placed upon those with a Phd next to their name doesn't mean science is nothing but politicial BS, just as not all preachers are a bunch of money scanvenging vultures eager to fleece the gullible.

Einstein isn't the only person to have theorized about worm holes, there are many who carried on with his thoughts and gone much further. That you believe science is the same as selling used cares indicates you aren't very well educated.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: IRTorqued (#184)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.

Ok, who do YOU think wrote the New Testament?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: IRTorqued (#184)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.

Ok, since you insist, here's some info for you to digest.

The Forged Origins of The New Testament


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: wudidiz (#187)

I've heard several different speculations to explain our rather strange planet. Two of the more interesting are:

1. That we are the interstellar equivalent of "Botany Bay" i.e., a Penal Colony where all the trouble makers are shipped to. It certainly fits the obstreperous humanity on this planet.

2. That we are an experiment - thus explaining all the different races each of which originated on another planet and so we have our mixed mass of humanity of different types. We are being observed to see how it works out.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-29   1:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG, noone222 (#193)

I watched a very interesting video about this. It had to do with the Bible and the Freemason literature of Albert Pike I think (others too maybe you know how my memory is).

So they're talking about a "secret"... the secret is not in the freemason literature but in the bible. It speaks of the secret in the literature but specifies that the actual secret can only be found in the bible. It goes on to refer to symbology, numerology and several Bible verses. I wish you could watch it.

noone222 posted it a while back. One has to look past the heavy religious preaching, but there's some very interesting data in that video. Impossible to deny maybe.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=1FlWRScIE-A


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   3:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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