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Title: U.N. VEHICLES BY THE THOUSANDS STAGED IN FLORIDA
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Published: Jun 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-27 08:11:32 by Itistoolate
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#159. To: wudidiz, TooConservative (#155)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

Ouch.

I didn't say it like that.

What can I say? My patience is wearing thin. We keep seeing the same disinformation points, and avoidance, and after a while it simply becomes tiresome and repetitive. That is why I generally avoid much discussion on the topic as the scoffers and disinfo artists are sooooooooooo unoriginal. If the topic comes up, and there is one around, invariably you see the same avoidance, disparagement, and attempts to avoid facts. They will not look, they will not evaluate individual reports, and they are uninterested in having relief from their ignorance and narrow mindedness. Which is fine, but I do not have to treat robotic replies with any more dignity than they merit.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   17:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: HOUNDDAWG (#158)

Beware the self styled omniscient (how else can one describe those who make sweeping statements about the totality of life in the universe?) for they will arrange a fatal accident for you (tamper with your brakes) to avoid admitting their human fallibility. And their arrogance is multiplied by the anonymity the net affords them because if proven wrong they can disappear. Shortly after new members arrive with screen names such as "American Gothic" and "I'm From MO-Show ME". And in no time at all you'll be blind sided for statements that are not particularly controversial. If you think of it as angry, nit picking cheap shots by those who'll never forgive you for underscoring their ignorance it will make sense.

Nicely said and all too true. I still have never received a reply from Alan Chapman and it has been 2 1/2 years. ;-)

Parallel to your example would be the experience of Dr. Harvey who first mapped the circulatory system, demonstrating the heart was a pump, and being publicly pilloried and villified for doing so. "I would rather err with Galen than be right with Harvey."

There are plenty of historical examples of the resistance to ideas that force people to rethink their world view. Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   17:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: FormerLurker (#118)

Google has all your answers doesn't it? Talk about lazy!

Just as the current power structure has built up the myth of human caused global warming, those before them built up the myth of Einstien's genius and time travel. You can't tell truth from reality because you rely on others to do your thinking for you. Scientists are not any more moral than a used car salesman. They can and do say anything you want them to say for money.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-06-28   17:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: wudidiz, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, wudidiz, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#154) (Edited)

Genesis 6:1-2

Pardon my ignorance.

Although I have an imaginary friend that I met on LSD some 40 years ago, I don't look to him for spiritual renewal or guidance. So, needless to say I don't read The Bible (in all its many forged revisions) and I avoid the Old Testament just as I would a dusty Kabbala manuscript written in blood.

Please explain the significance of this chapter and verse?

But, hey, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm not against hedging my bets so my medic alert necklace says "No Code-Do Not Resuscitate" and "Please ask God to forgive my sins and tell him that I accept Jesus as my savior before I expire".

If I can squeeze into Heaven at the last minute with this cheep(sic) insurance policy (and no one mentions it if I died while being ridden in a reverse cowgirl by a young nigra hoe) then fine. A minor concession while unconscious won't bother me, especially if I didn't have to donate to some pompadour wearing preacher's corporation or modify my lifestyle, i.e. stop singing "The Devil's music!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Original_Intent (#151)

It is a rather limited, parochial, and egocentric view to presume that we are the only intelligent life, in a very vast universe, or even the most advanced. Such presumption is childish to say the least.

You assume we are anything close to intelligent. The evidence is awfully thin for it. We are little removed from cavemen with clubs and enough knowledge to start a fire.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   17:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Original_Intent (#160)

Now that is some super ass kicking!

"Much simpler to just "burn the heretic". It requires much less thought."

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

I relate to katz like that.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: TooConservative, ALL (#163)

a video about the 'disclosure project' you can find here: freepressinternational.com/ about 3/4 of the way down

www.disclosureproject.org/

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-28   17:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: TooConservative, Original_Intent (#163)

intelligent

Intelligence is a relative and fundamental concept. It could be defined for members of the nekton group as "having evolved enough to solve the problem of staying off the ocean floor".

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   17:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Original_Intent (#156)

Very insigtful. NOT!

It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts.

Ah, so what have we learned on this thread then?

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   17:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Itistoolate, Turtle, Original_Intent (#165)

www.disclosureproject.org/

"On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena."

_________________________

Well, our severe and unsympathetic critics (like Turtle) weren't there, and like an ostrich with its head in the sand (or in Turtle's case buried elsewhere) the looming threat in the form of a predator (or to someone's primitive superstitions/religious beliefs) simply doesn't exist if it isn't seen.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-28   18:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: HOUNDDAWG (#164)

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

There is no evidence for this myth. Kind of like the story about Washington and the cherry tree.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   18:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: HOUNDDAWG (#166)

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

To any race capable of star-travel, we would be animals. Not cute or cuddly ones either.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   18:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: TooConservative, all (#167)

Very insigtful. NOT!

It should be apparent to anyone reading this thread that your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with facts.

Ah, so what have we learned on this thread then?

* UFOs have visited Shirley MacLaine, Dennis Kucinich and possibly you as well. * Your family member has seen a UFO big enough to cover a mountain valley from horizon to horizon. * Government radar systems are incapble of error or being spoofed (despite the common knowledge that radar is easy to spoof and that weather routinely causes all kinds of false radar readings during inversions and other weather situations). * You feel persecuted by diabolical forces if anyone doubts your pet theories for which you can muster no evidence whatsoever.

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

Yawn. Back to disinfo mode I see.

Logical Fallacies Violated:

Guilt by Association: I don't recall mentioning Shirley McClaine, and whether she claims to have seen one or not refutes what part of the evidenciary record?

Government radar systems are incapble of error or being spoofed (despite the common knowledge that radar is easy to spoof and that weather routinely causes all kinds of false radar readings during inversions and other weather situations).

Did I make that assertion? No.

Fallacies Violated:

Argumentum Ad Hominem
Weak Analogy
Red Herring

Of course as a skilled disinformationist you avoided stating a position of your own and engaged logical fallacies to camouflage the omission. So, you intentionally try to create the impression, falsely, that all anomalous Radar tracks, by skilled operators, are in error - without of course bothering to present any proof of that assertion. Scary stuff this Radar, why every day we have thousands of lives at risk of the unreliable displays of this quirky device. Gosh I'll bet there were at least a hundred mid-air collisions today. Right? We need to tell Air Traffic Controllers nationwide to immediately cease relying upon this quirky and unreliable contraption.

As both a Radar Operator and Sonar Operator I can tell you that it is part of the training to be able to recognize spurious blips and electronic artifacts.

You feel persecuted by diabolical forces if anyone doubts your pet theories for which you can muster no evidence whatsoever.

Yawn. Now you presume to tell me what I think. And it is not MY pet theory, it is a position shared by a great many people. In fact I do believe everyone on this thread except you. Do you feel persecuted for holding a position which you have supported with nothing more substantial than logical fallacies and disinformation tactics? One which is itself regarded as contrary to what the body of evidence supports? And I am not your research librarian. I long ago gave up posting proofs for scoffers and shills. If you want to examine the available mountains of evidence honestly well I have twice given you a link to a good website to use as a starting point. Just to show what a magnanimous and big hearted kind of guy I am here it is again: Sightings.com.

And as I have told you at least twice before on this thread you are welcome to believe whatever you wish. You can ignore and avoid the data to your heart's content, and I frankly don't give a damn. Just don't continue to pee on my foot and then try and convince me it's raining.

Another disinfo tactic/logical fallacy:

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

Two items, unsupported, which are disrelated and as such prove nothing. Nothing that is other than you appear incapable of constructing a rational argument that does not rely on personal attacks. Why is that? Why is it that you continue to use the tactics of a disinformation specialist? Is that your specialty? Disinformation that is?

BTW, were you ever going to offer any opinion on the supposed U.N. vans in the Florida air park? Or are you just here to hijack the thread? Hey, maybe those vans belong to E.T., how about that?

ROFLMFAO! I think it was about 60 or 70 posts ago I graciously conceded that you are welcome to believe whatever you wish, just as I am quite capable of holding my own views, based upon the mountains of evidence you refuse to look at or acknowledge, and feel no compulsion whatsoever to share your viewpoint, whatever it may be given the confused mishmash of your arguments.

Do have a nice day.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   18:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: TooConservative, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#170)

No offense but you seem to be trying to derail the chat with a pointless non-sequitur.

To any race capable of star-travel, we would be animals. Not cute or cuddly ones either.

And your proof of that assertion is?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Original_Intent (#171) (Edited)

As both a Radar Operator and Sonar Operator I can tell you that it is part of the training to be able to recognize spurious blips and electronic artifacts.

Radar and sonar. My, my. And what job did you have that provided professional training in both?

BTW, among these UFO accounts are reports of planes chasing down spurious radar blips which proved to be the images of a ship on the water which were reflected due to a double-inversion. Since you like these eyewitness accounts so much (unless they conflict with one of your pet theories).

ROFLMFAO! I think it was about 60 or 70 posts ago I graciously conceded that you are welcome to believe whatever you wish,...

Ah, very generous of you.

just as I am quite capable of holding my own views, based upon the mountains of evidence you refuse to look at or acknowledge, and feel no compulsion whatsoever to share your viewpoint, whatever it may be given the confused mishmash of your arguments.

I see. Lack of mere evidence doesn't rattle your certainties at all.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   19:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: HOUNDDAWG (#164)

Now that is some super ass kicking!

It had built up over a couple other threads with varied exchanges. That was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position. Do you think I was too harsh on him. ;-)

Galileo supposedly uttered, "Nevertheless it did move" while on his knees before the Church accepting his punishment.

So it is reputed. They put him under house arrest for the rest of his life as well.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:04:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Original_Intent (#174)

That was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position.

Not at all. I demonstrated adequately that your beliefs are faith-based and that you can produce no evidence whatsoever.

I am well satisfied with it.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   19:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: TooConservative (#173)

I see. Lack of mere evidence doesn't rattle your certainties at all.

I feel, and am not under, no compulsion to waste my time looking up and posting data which you would promptly ignore.

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter. I gave you the link. What you do with it is your prerogative. I am not going to waste time doing your homework for you as your personal belief is a matter of some indifference to me.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: TooConservative (#175)

at was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position.

Not at all. I demonstrated adequately that your beliefs are faith-based and that you can produce no evidence whatsoever.

We weren't talking about my comments to you - it was regarding an earlier debate with someone else - unless you used to post as "Alan Chapman". You need to learn to read more carefully before inserting your foot.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   19:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Original_Intent (#176)

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter.

Right. So "ambivalent" you had to hijack an entire thread because I made a one-liner crack and a little photo of nutjob two-face Comrade Kucinich.

But, yeah, I can see how "ambivalent" you are. It's so obvious really.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: TooConservative (#178)

Thousands of UN Vehicles and Tons of Equipment Masking At Florida Airbase? UPDATE

theintelhub.com/2010/05/2...-vehicles-masking-at-afb/

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-06-28   21:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Original_Intent (#177)

We weren't talking about my comments to you - it was regarding an earlier debate with someone else - unless you used to post as "Alan Chapman". You need to learn to read more carefully before inserting your foot.

I thought you were referring to me since you had directed so many posts my way.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: TooConservative (#178)

If you wish to relieve yourself of your ignorance then fine. If not then fine. I am quite ambivalent upon the matter.

Right. So "ambivalent" you had to hijack an entire thread because I made a one-liner crack and a little photo of nutjob two-face Comrade Kucinich.

But, yeah, I can see how "ambivalent" you are. It's so obvious really.

I am not ambivalent to the use of false logic and disinformation tactics, which is what you were doing in that post (#15 on this thread). I objected then, and now, to the false assertion that an objective view of the UFO phenomena, or having sighted one, perforce makes one a kook, and your argument to that affect was dishonest and logically fallacious.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-28   21:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Itistoolate (#179) (Edited)

Thousands of UN Vehicles and Tons of Equipment Masking At Florida Airbase? UPDATE

Update: As of now there is confirmation that there are currently NO vehicles present at this moment. It appears the vehicles have been moved between Feb. and now. Thanks to a dedicated Intel Soldier known as Gortz, we have solved this one. We will keep you posted if anything changes. For the people that believe that Kia Motors stored that many vehicles of the same model in a private airport, wow…

And now that they're gone, no one can prove whether they were U.N. or just surplus vehicles that Kia couldn't get sold in a slow economy.

Did Gortz (or his mysterious friend Klaatu) ever consider asking the management who owned them, why they were there. No, that would be too obvious, wouldn't it? That is exactly what They (a.k.a. THEM) would want you to do. But we can fight back, can't we, by posting a few more hysterical webpages with no evidence of anything on them, just a bunch of wild accusations.

I guess it's an update, sort of.

Hey, maybe the U.N. vans went to where they keep the Black Helicopters. Maybe Gortz could go check into that.

Still, thanks for the update. It is more info than we had when the thread started. I first heard about these vans over six months ago. Maybe we will yet find out who owns them and where they went. I'd just like to know, having seen a number of these U.N.-killer-van threads.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Original_Intent (#181)

I am not ambivalent to the use of false logic and disinformation tactics, which is what you were doing in that post (#15 on this thread). I objected then, and now, to the false assertion that an objective view of the UFO phenomena, or having sighted one, perforce makes one a kook, and your argument to that affect was dishonest and logically fallacious.

I can't tell whether I'm an ignoramus resisting the golden light of your truth (although you are indifferent to such petty matters) or if I am a "disinformation specialist" who you are battling with all your might. I don't think I can be both, at least not credibly.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-28   21:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: FormerLurker (#116)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-06-28   22:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: TooConservative (#182)

And now that they're gone, no one can prove whether they were U.N. or just surplus vehicles that Kia couldn't get sold in a slow economy.

No links...just a recounting of what I read. Several parts of I-20 in Alabama with those exit ramp barricades were in effect... Traffic back ups for miles.. And at every barricade their were some of those unmarked white vans...

These may not be the same vans... Then again I do not think it is a coincidence.

People in florida are starting to get sick. Some have had lung failure. MSM has not reported on it but then again they are not reporting on the sick either.

And with Hurricane Alex pushing the storm surge in everywhere.... Those folks that have not left yet may be moved in those white Vans.

titorite  posted on  2010-06-28   22:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: TooConservative (#167)

And you still think we should look for intelligent life on other planets? LOL. Maybe you should try to find some here on Earth first.

LOL!

Yeah, it would be great to find some intelligent life here on Earth. But so far all I see is dumb and dumber. Sure there are spirits, angels and demons, maybe that is what these people are seeing and not realizing it since they are convinced in their heart that there is no God or no devil. I don't say their mind, because no one is that dumb to not know we were created, they just reject it with all their heart.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-06-29   0:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: HOUNDDAWG, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#162) (Edited)

(TC)"If intelligent life does exist Out There, why in the world would they be interested in the human race?"

(HD)As with all ugly minorities they're after our beautiful white wimmen. What else?

(Moi)Genesis 6:1-2

TooConservative asked wtf the aliens would want to do with us. You said they're after our white wimmen. I quoted a verse from the Old Testament saying Exactly that.

Genesis 6:1-2

6-1 When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 6-2 the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose.

This verse imo refers to aliens mating with humans. (Male aliens mating with female humans.)(or aliens injecting female humans with their DNA)

So we are alien hybrids. Which would explain why we are so very different from every single one of all the species on the planet. It is a theme of every Religion on the planet too.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   0:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: All (#187)

aliens

Not from Mexico.

lol


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   0:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Rotara (#148)

...Jesus came to abolish religion and create relationship with the Living God Almighty directly.

Says who? The Roman Catholic Church effectively became the new Roman Empire, and ruled the Western World for close to 2000 years. Dissent was not allowed, and was met with torture and death.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: RickyJ (#161)

Just as the current power structure has built up the myth of human caused global warming, those before them built up the myth of Einstien's genius and time travel.

Is nuclear fission and fusion also a myth?

Just because SOME political pressure is placed upon those with a Phd next to their name doesn't mean science is nothing but politicial BS, just as not all preachers are a bunch of money scanvenging vultures eager to fleece the gullible.

Einstein isn't the only person to have theorized about worm holes, there are many who carried on with his thoughts and gone much further. That you believe science is the same as selling used cares indicates you aren't very well educated.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: IRTorqued (#184)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.

Ok, who do YOU think wrote the New Testament?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: IRTorqued (#184)

I didn't ask for a rerun of a link I want to see your documentation of the claim you made.

Ok, since you insist, here's some info for you to digest.

The Forged Origins of The New Testament


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-29   1:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: wudidiz (#187)

I've heard several different speculations to explain our rather strange planet. Two of the more interesting are:

1. That we are the interstellar equivalent of "Botany Bay" i.e., a Penal Colony where all the trouble makers are shipped to. It certainly fits the obstreperous humanity on this planet.

2. That we are an experiment - thus explaining all the different races each of which originated on another planet and so we have our mixed mass of humanity of different types. We are being observed to see how it works out.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-29   1:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG, noone222 (#193)

I watched a very interesting video about this. It had to do with the Bible and the Freemason literature of Albert Pike I think (others too maybe you know how my memory is).

So they're talking about a "secret"... the secret is not in the freemason literature but in the bible. It speaks of the secret in the literature but specifies that the actual secret can only be found in the bible. It goes on to refer to symbology, numerology and several Bible verses. I wish you could watch it.

noone222 posted it a while back. One has to look past the heavy religious preaching, but there's some very interesting data in that video. Impossible to deny maybe.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=1FlWRScIE-A


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   3:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: wudidiz (#187)

So we are alien hybrids. Which would explain why we are so very different from every single one of all the species on the planet. It is a theme of every Religion on the planet too.

Actually, I find this plausible in light of the lost technology of the pyramids and other reasons.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-29   4:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Original_Intent, TooConservative (#174)

It had built up over a couple other threads with varied exchanges. That was supposed to be his magnum opus which would totally refute my position. Do you think I was too harsh on him. ;-)

I see no reason why he should be offended by a straightforward post of the truth.

Unfortunately, I sense that he practices self deception in order to nip and tuck inconvenient truths into irrelevance in order to reconcile them with his understanding of the natural order.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-29   4:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: HOUNDDAWG (#195)

Actually, I find this plausible in light of the lost technology of the pyramids and other reasons.

It seems to me like everything points to it one way or another.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-29   4:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: wudidiz (#188)

Not from Mexico.

Ah, you mean alien aliens. ;)

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-29   5:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: TooConservative (#163)

You assume we are anything close to intelligent. The evidence is awfully thin for it. We are little removed from cavemen with clubs and enough knowledge to start a fire.

LOL.

Seriously though, we are quite intelligent as a species. The range of intelligence varies, but even your average Special Olympics participant is light years ahead of our closest relatives, chimps and bonobos, intellectually.

It's all good fun to consider ourselves "dumb", but end of the day "dumb" doesn't build skyscrapers, space craft or nanobots, or even mundane things like canteens. And "dumb" certainly doesn't contemplate the meaning of life, or the state of matter occupied by light, as a leisure activity while toying around on computers it built which perform millions of precise mathematical calculations every half second.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-06-29   7:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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