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Title: U.N. VEHICLES BY THE THOUSANDS STAGED IN FLORIDA
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Published: Jun 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-27 08:11:32 by Itistoolate
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#28. To: Turtle (#26)

Cracks me up. Whenever someone points out what loons conspiracists are, all they can do is point and sputter "You must be one of THEM!!"

It is a way of distracting stupid people when you have no proof to offer to support your wild theories and incredible accounts.

Dime a dozen on this interweb thing.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#25)

or d) those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf......"

Should we destroy our TVs and converter boxes and satellite boxen now, just to be safe from Big Brutha?

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#24)

BTW, you are aware that a military pilot could, upon reaching the age of retirement, suddenly decide he "saw" a UFO and then get paid $100K or more by the tabloids to publicize it?

So was the USAF looking for a spot in the National Enquirer when a squadron of UFOs buzzed the US Capitol back in 1952?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: TooConservative (#24)

1952 Washington D.C. UFO incident


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker, 4 (#31)

Last week DirecTv installed a new HD satellite dish, receiver, and remote on Mrs.L's tellie.

It's not an HD tv, but goodness, is the picture ever brighter and sharper.

Oh yeah, it was all gratis.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-27   15:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Itistoolate (#0)

First things first.

These Google Images from Google Maps, how old do you think they are? I did a google map look up on my house, and it's from before I moved in, as there were 9 cars parked next door, and three at my house. So, we have no idea how old the images are. Google Maps are not a real time indicator of what's really there.

Second, how hard would it be to go to a place like this, and take photos, and get the truth? Probably not hard at all. Considering that there are 3 hills around it, one could get to the top, and get a good shot with a telescope, or a camera with a high powered zoom.

I'm not going to worry until they start rolling around in my neck of the woods. When it happens, that's when all bets are off.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-06-27   15:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#31)

Explained as a double-inversion. For instance, those military pilots you think so highly of said that the inversion caused radar to bounce off the cloud layer and pick up a boat going to Mount Vernon. This is the far more dangerous kind of UFO (an Unidentified Floating Object), all the more sinister because it doesn't fly at all.

The webpage link you provided does far more to debunk your "proof" than to support it.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: TooConservative (#28)

It is a way of distracting stupid people when you have no proof to offer to support your wild theories and incredible accounts.

And that's exactly what you did. You diverted the thread from it's original topic, and made it all about UFOs.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Lod (#32)

Last week DirecTv installed a new HD satellite dish, receiver, and remote on Mrs.L's tellie.

It's not an HD tv, but goodness, is the picture ever brighter and sharper.

Oh yeah, it was all gratis.

So how do we know we're still talking to the real Lod, not the mind-controlled Lod zombie with Rahm Emmanuel pulling his every string via Directv HD signal?

Sorry, but I have to add you to my Evil Zombie list. Can't be too safe, you know.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#35) (Edited)

And that's exactly what you did. You diverted the thread from it's original topic, and made it all about UFOs.

No, I focused on the Kucinich UFO report, replete with Shirley MacLaine sucking it up for all it was worth (nothing) in her book.

It is you who changed the topic with long bloviating posts about UFOs.

Of course, that is exactly the kind of thing I would say if I were a disinfo specialist. They teach us how to do it in Disinformation Specialist school.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TooConservative (#34)

Explained as a double-inversion.

Or maybe it was "Swamp Gas", eh?

You obviously didn't read the part that mentioned military jets being surrounded by these glowing objects, nor does your "inversion" BS explain the visual sightings, notably that which is present in the video I embedded.

And here's an excerpt from the Wiki page on the incident...

Events of July 26–27

At 8:15 p.m. on Saturday, July 26, 1952, a pilot and stewardess on a National Airlines flight into Washington observed some strange objects above their plane. Within minutes, both radar centers at National Airport, and the radar at Andrews AFB, were tracking more unknown objects. The objects were traveling between 90 and 100 miles per hour. A master sergeant at Andrews visually observed the objects; he later said that "these lights did not have the characteristics of shooting stars. There was [sic] no trails . . . they traveled faster than any shooting star I have ever seen" (Clark, 658).

Meanwhile, Albert M. Chop, the press spokesman for Project Blue Book, arrived at National Airport and refused several reporters' requests to photograph the radar screens. He then joined the radar center personnel (Ruppelt, 164). By this time (9:30 p.m.) the radar center was picking up unknown objects in every sector. At times the objects traveled slowly; at other times they reversed direction and moved across the radarscope at speeds calculated at 7,000 mph. At 11:30 p.m., two jet fighters from Newcastle AFB in Delaware arrived over Washington. Capt. John McHugo, the flight leader, was vectored towards the radar pips but saw nothing, despite repeated attempts (Peebles, 76). However, his wingman, Lt. William Patterson, did see four white "glows" and chased them. Suddenly, the "glows" turned and surrounded his fighter. Patterson asked the control tower at National Airport what he should do; according to Chop, the tower's answer was "stunned silence". The four objects then sped away from Patterson's jet and disappeared (Clark, 659).

After midnight on July 27, Major Dewey Fournet, Project Blue Book's liaison at the Pentagon, and a Lt. Holcomb, an Air Force radar specialist, arrived at the radar center at National Airport. During the night, Lt. Holcomb received a call from the Washington National Weather Station. They told him that a slight temperature inversion was present over the city, but Holcomb felt that the inversion was not "nearly strong enough to explain the 'good and solid' returns" on the radarscopes (Peebles, 76). Fournet relayed that all those present in the radar room were convinced that the targets were most likely caused by solid metallic objects. There had been weather targets on the scope too, he said, but this was a common occurrence and the controllers "were paying no attention to them." (Ruppelt, 166) Two more jets from Newcastle AFB were scrambled during the night. One pilot saw nothing unusual; the other pilot moved towards a white light which "vanished" when he closed in. A Capital Airlines flight leaving Washington spotted "odd lights" which remained visible for about twelve minutes (Clark, 660). As on July 20, the sightings and unknown radar returns ended at sunrise.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#37)

No, I focused on the Kucinich UFO report

And for what reason, being that wasn't the topic of the thread?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21) (Edited)

As usual your logic is unassailable.

You can tell which posters are accustomed to piling on and browbeating those who utter heresies. They are probably from LP and/or FR, places where dissent from the dogma is not tolerated regardless of the evidence.

You have the patience and the intellect to systematically dismantle their cheap psychological shots. I don't.

I'm glad you do. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it. Otherwise they'd silence folks who don't "worship at the Dubya throne" here, too.

Thanks. I simply regard it as a public service. I have a distinct dislike of false logic and disinformation. I am also aware that such is often intentionally planted to mislead, and I want people to think for themselves and be able to spot these common fallacies when they run into them. That is part of the reason our society is such a mess - people accept false verities and then act upon them, and when you draw a conclusion on false information your conclusion will be false. I do not like to see disinformation go unchallenged, and it presents an opportunity to show examples of false reasoning.

My standard line is: "What is the evidence?"

If one sets aside preconceptions and lets the evidence tell the story, rather than have a fixed idea, then one is more likely to arrive at the truth. As in anything in this existence there is no guarantee, but the odds are a "bit" better.

However, too many people operate upon illogic and then act as though their pronouncements, arrived at by specious reasoning, are fundamental truths. I'm not a logic fetishist, as human intuition is able to bridge gaps that logic alone will not travel, however, it is a useful tool in ferreting out the truth of a matter.

The reasoning often seems to go (illogically):

A is true.

B is associated with A.

Therefore B is true.

Notice the absent proof.

And the reverse:

A is false.

B is associated with A.

Therefore B is false.

Same reasoning - an assumption made without any merit.

So the UFO scoffers arguments invariably set up as I outlined above:

An assumption, without proof, is made that all UFO reports are false, misdidentification, or the result of illusion.

This unproved assumption is then used as a litmus test to discard any information to the contrary. Thus good reports are labeled bad simply because the observer assumes that there is no possibility of it being true and therefore, by Appeal To Misleading Authority anything not in agreement with the assumption is labeled false without the bother of actually thinking.

This kind of reasoning is actually quite common. You run into a lot in Science, particularly in those fields that do not rely on mathematical proofs. I first got interested in the subject of false arguments because of my interest in Archaeology. There is a large and substantial body of evidence that is absolutely contrary to the accepted, in Academic circles, age of anatomically modern man, and the true antiquity of civilization on this planet. Any of this evidence contrary to the accepted view is routinely thrown out, not because of any real defect, but because it throws doubt upon the accepted Academic Fetish. Take for example the age of the Sphinx. The Sphinx and its enclosure show signs of extreme water erosion which could only result from thousands of years of heavy rainfall. Problem though, the Giza Plateau, the location of the Sphinx had it last extended period of wet weather prior to 8,000 B.C. - a time when the Giza Plateau had an arid desert climate with insufficient rainfall to account for the water erosion. Big BIG problem for academic archaeology since they place the construction of the Sphinx around 2500 B.C.. So, we have geologists, who rely upon mathematically provable principles of water erosion, and the climatological history of the region in conflict with the accepted age of the Sphinx. So, do the Academics, in accordance with proper Scientific Method, revise their thinking to accommodate the new data. Of course not. The text book says 2500 B.C. and so evidence be damned!

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-27   15:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#38)

At 8:15 p.m. on Saturday, July 26, 1952, a pilot and stewardess on a National Airlines flight into Washington observed some strange objects above their plane. Within minutes, both radar centers at National Airport, and the radar at Andrews AFB, were tracking more unknown objects. The objects were traveling between 90 and 100 miles per hour.

But jet airliners fall out of the sky like a rock if they go as slow as 90-100mph.

Your "facts" refute themselves.

Or were the Little Gray Ones sneakily warping spacetime and nullifying the laws of physics?

I always find it amusing to think that races of intelligent superbeings would cross interstellar distances to come here, then tease us with UFO sightings while playing coy and never actually revealing themselves. Of course, they might have a rather odd sense of humor. Or they're just waiting for their buddies to show up so they can eat us all.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   15:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TooConservative (#41)

But jet airliners fall out of the sky like a rock if they go as slow as 90-100mph.

Are you so dense that you think wingless craft follow the same rules as jet airliners?

You also overlooked the part that estimated their speed at 7000 mph at times.

By this time (9:30 p.m.) the radar center was picking up unknown objects in every sector. At times the objects traveled slowly; at other times they reversed direction and moved across the radarscope at speeds calculated at 7,000 mph. At 11:30 p.m., two jet fighters from Newcastle AFB in Delaware arrived over Washington. Capt. John McHugo, the flight leader, was vectored towards the radar pips but saw nothing, despite repeated attempts (Peebles, 76). However, his wingman, Lt. William Patterson, did see four white "glows" and chased them. Suddenly, the "glows" turned and surrounded his fighter. Patterson asked the control tower at National Airport what he should do; according to Chop, the tower's answer was "stunned silence". The four objects then sped away from Patterson's jet and disappeared (Clark, 659).


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   15:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TooConservative (#41)

You do realize that we have scientists going to foreign countries, who tag animals for research purposes right?

It could be no different than that.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-06-27   15:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: FormerLurker (#42)

You have one of those "I WANT TO BELIEVE! posters on the wall, don't you?

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   16:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TooConservative (#41)

I always find it amusing to think that races of intelligent superbeings would cross interstellar distances to come here, then tease us with UFO sightings while playing coy and never actually revealing themselves. Of course, they might have a rather odd sense of humor. Or they're just waiting for their buddies to show up so they can eat us all.

They've been coming here as long as history goes back, perhaps longer.

Look up ancient Sumerian history, or Hindu Vedic legends...

Would you prefer they do something more akin to what you see in TV shows such as "V"?

Who's to say at least some of these "visitors" aren't just from another place, but from another time, where they may even be from OUR future. That'd be the best way to record history, actually going back and seeing it happen.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker (#45)

They've been coming here as long as history goes back, perhaps longer.

Then maybe those mystery vans in Florida belong to the Little Gray Persons, not the U.N. after all.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   16:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TooConservative (#44)

You have one of those "I WANT TO BELIEVE! posters on the wall, don't you?

It's not the matter of "wanting to believe", it's the matter of not being a closed minded idiot and not ignoring the evidence just because some people say "it is impossible, "everyone KNOWS that there isn't any other intelligent life in the Universe"...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#45)

Who's to say at least some of these "visitors" aren't just from another place, but from another time, where they may even be from OUR future. That'd be the best way to record history, actually going back and seeing it happen.

Of course, it could be that you can just make up any crazy crap and spew it on the interwebby thingie.

Or you might be crazy. Or an idiot. Or a scammer. Or just a gullible mark in a con game.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   16:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker, wudidiz (#47)

"it is impossible, "everyone KNOWS that there isn't any other intelligent life in the Universe"...

Not only that:

"The Earth is Flat. If you sail too far you'll fall off the edge."

"Of course the Sun revolves around the earth."

"Rocks don't fall from the sky. It's impossible. Surely the result of delusion."

"If man were meant to fly God would have given him wings. It's impossible."

"Land a man on the Moon? Ridiculous! Harummph!"

"Who in the world would want a personal computer? What would you do with it?"

Gotta run or I'd give a few more examples.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-27   16:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: TooConservative (#46)

Then maybe those mystery vans in Florida belong to the Little Gray Persons, not the U.N. after all.

The number of vans was extremely unusual, but I doubt it has anything to do with alien life. Unless of course the aliens HAVE taken over, and THAT is why they are killing off the human population with various means, using mind controlled politicians as their human facilitators.

Still doesn't explain why they'd need vans, unless it was to round up people for a trip to some destination they'll never return from.

You see, I can take what you say and look at the various possibilities, rather than dismissing it out of hand it with ridicule as is your modus operandi here.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#48)

Or you might be crazy. Or an idiot. Or a scammer. Or just a gullible mark in a con game

Do you believe in Jesus?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: TooConservative, 4 (#41)

One note: we didn't have jet-powered airliners here until 1955.

Whatever propulsion system UFOs use, I don't believe it's the push (jet) or pull (propeller) systems that we use.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-27   16:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Original_Intent (#49)

"Who in the world would want a personal computer? What would you do with it?"

DEC jumped the shark on that one... :)


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FormerLurker (#51)

Do you believe in Jesus?

I do. I believe in him much more than I believe in aliens from other planets.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-06-27   16:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: RickyJ (#54) (Edited)

I do. I believe in him much more than I believe in aliens from other planets.

Not to get into a religious discussion here, but there is MUCH more evidence of alien life than has ever existed of Jesus being God Himself.

From cave drawings, to news footage, reports from doctors, pilots, and various military personel, there IS something in the skies that is beyond "worldly" explanation.

Fact is, most of the New Testament is a forgery, where the TRUE disciples of Jesus were persecuted and murdered by Rome, with the assistance of Paul, the supposed "head" of the Christian Church (Roman Catholic Church).


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: TooConservative (#48)

Oh and BTW genius, time travel IS within the realm of possibility, and the theory behind it has already been accepted as entirely plausible.

Look up The Einstein-Rosen Bridge .


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-06-27   16:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Itistoolate (#0)

These are not “U.N. Vehicles”. These white vans belong to Pegasus [a 'HORSE'] International and Cerberus/DynCorp.

the “Pegasus Program” is the deployment of thousands of vehicles ["HORSES" Ezekiel 38:15] across America....

When I studied DynCorp International, I found that DynCorp and Pegasus International are basically joined at the hips with many international “joint projects”. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that DynCorp, and Pegasus are CIA FRONT COMPANIES involved in the deepest black ops. (See NanoTech expose in “Dr. Ott’s Papers” here.)

Also, check this out. Dyncorp Int. was “purchased” back on April 12 by Cerberus Capital, and the “deal” was brokered by, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs who SHORTED TRANSOCEAN STOCKS on April 17, three days before the Gulf Oil debacle began.

I started to reply to this hours ago. Pegasus and DynCorp set off alarm bells in my mind as well...joined at the hip....not surprised.

Roman, Greek gods, Pegasus being a horse, and the name Dyn all suggest the Merovingians/Illuminati who rule from behind the scenes.

The Van Duyn Bloodline
May 12, 2009 ... An informer states that Van Duyn is one of the top 13 Illuminati families ..... [connected to the] nobility of Europe, to the tribe of Dan, and to the Khazars. ... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/duyn.htm

Hebrew did not have vowels. Anytime you see a word containing "dan, den, din, don, dun (duyn), or dyn", you can SUSPECT a connection to the Tribe of Dan:

The HORSE is one of the symbols of that tribe. Another famous one is the EAGLE, which is on the CIA logo and the seal of the US.

The Lost Tribe of Dan
Samson, a Nazarite of the tribe of Dan, judged Israel during the period of Philistine domination. At the feast celebrating his marriage to a Philistine ... http://watch.pair.com/dan.html

They are the only tribe I am aware of that ever blasphemed God. They set up the golden calves to worship, and they are not recorded in Revelation 7 [nor are their brethren the tribe of Ephraim, whom the British Monarchy claims descent from] as being sealed by God. Rabbis in Israel believe they are descended from that tribe. The book of Enoch said their god was Lucifer. The Bible says that all who follow their ways and worship their god, will fall and never rise again. [Amos 8:14]. Their only hope is in Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:16-29. [What was that about "the gates of hell" again? How arrogant. They will NOT prevail; if they persist they WILL fall and never rise again.]

"THE VAN DUYN BLOODLINE

"In 1626, Peter Minuit traded some trinkets to the Canarsie Indians to purchase Manhattan Island.

The history books like to report the value of the trinkets as $24. The purchase was supposedly a good deal for the Dutch. The Canarsie Indians didn’t own Manhattan Island, it belonged to other Indians, so it is debatable who got the best deal that day. That was the beginning of the Dutch colony of New Netherlands, and its capital New Amsterdam, built beside Ft. Amsterdam, all three later renamed New York.

The Van Duyn family (also spelled Van Dien, Van Duyne, et. al.) was one of the Dutch families to come over to the Dutch colony of New Netherlands which was connected to the Dutch West India Company. ......

....A VAN DUYN & THE CIA, MI6, MOSSAD, NSA ETC.

MI6 was intimately involved in the creation of the CIA and MOSSAD. And MI6 is the guiding hand behind those two organizations. British Intelligence was integrated under the title British Security Coordination which was the world’s largest and most powerful intelligence beast in the world. This beast has been under total control by the Illuminati since its beginning.

Since 1940 when the BSC was set up in New York the Americans have worked for the British. But the intelligence community in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, NZ has gone a step beyond the secret intrigue of intelligence agencies secretly controlling other intelligence agencies. They have actually signed formal agreements which completely make all these acronym monsters into one intelligence agency.

There is The Technical Cooperation Program (TTCP) and the ABCA Agreement which concerns intelligence information exchange in the areas of defense research and development. The ABCA Agreement concerns military intelligence.

The BRUSA Agreement on May 17, 1943 established exchange of personnel and the most intimate cooperation at the highest levels by the various national intelligence agencies of all high-grade COMINT. A Secret Treaty of 1947 linked all the major commonwealth and American intelligence groups. This is just one of countless agreements, most secret, for the exchange of information.

At that point in time, levels of secrecy were ULTRA (very secret), Pearl (moderately secret), and Thumb (secret). Pearl and Thumb later became Pinup. On 17 February 1972 a National Security Council Intelligence Directive (NSCID)-6 directed the NSA to be the principal US SIGINT agency, with the FBI and CIA basically working for the NSA. Although some people are claiming that their is friction between the NSA and its front organizations the FBI & CIA, it is hard to picture that this friction is anything serious because many people in these front organizations work for the NSA.

The CIA, MI6 and the Mossad all worked through the BCCI which was scandalized recently, although the elite kept the lid on the scandal. Together the UKUSA intelligence community (or what is better termed the NWO’s intelligence world-wide intelligence agency, of which MI5, MI6, CIA, NSA, FBI, NZSIS, RCMP, SIS, ASIO, GCHQ, NRO, DIA & the SASB are simply departments, have together at least 300,000 people employed full time.

If there was in the 1968 time period a Van Duyn serving as the liaison between these various intelligence "departments’, he would be a very powerful man. (There is a way open to me to confirm this about a Van Duyn if I get the time.)...."

Unfortunately, Fritz Springmeir is not due to get out of prison [jailed for speaking the truth] until 2012.

search "gwen towers and project blue beam" and you come up with an interesting website, which I am just going to check out: http://www.abbaswatchman.com/

Anybody who doesn't believe in conspiracy fact, can go back to sleep if they want, and wait for the war plan against them to be announced on CNN or FAUX. As it was in the days of Noah, there are mockers and scoffers, who just don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. Many will be caught up in the strong delusion.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-06-27   16:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker, TooConservative, Original_Intent, Lod, HOUNDDAWG, all (#47)

"it is impossible, "everyone KNOWS that there isn't any other intelligent life in the Universe"...


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-27   16:57:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#50)

The number of vans was extremely unusual, but I doubt it has anything to do with alien life. Unless of course the aliens HAVE taken over, and THAT is why they are killing off the human population with various means, using mind controlled politicians as their human facilitators.

And yet human population is at an all-time high and climbing. Apparently, the aliens aren't very good at killing us off.

Still doesn't explain why they'd need vans, unless it was to round up people for a trip to some destination they'll never return from.

Isn't that what government vans are always used for?

You see, I can take what you say and look at the various possibilities, rather than dismissing it out of hand it with ridicule as is your modus operandi here.

Just because someone is ridiculing whatever nonsense you're peddling doesn't mean that you're not ridiculous.

This is why courts and science require some kind of evidence. Anyone can say or write anything. Evidence is a lot tougher.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Fact is, most of the New Testament is a forgery, where the TRUE disciples of Jesus were persecuted and murdered by Rome, with the assistance of Paul, the supposed "head" of the Christian Church (Roman Catholic Church).

Maybe it was the Little Gray Men and they just blamed it on Paul.

Since you're talking about facts, it was always Peter (never Paul) who was claimed as head of the Catholic sect and the first pope.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker (#56)

Oh and BTW genius, time travel IS within the realm of possibility, and the theory behind it has already been accepted as entirely plausible.

No one has ever denied it was possible. Just that it would require vast amounts of energy, like converting all the matter in our solar system via fusion to send an object back in time a few seconds. You can effectively send objects forward in time via relativistic means if you can travel near the speed of light to slow down the passage of time on the craft.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: TooConservative, FormerLurker (#59)

(FL) Unless of course the aliens HAVE taken over, and THAT is why they are killing off the human population with various means, using mind controlled politicians as their human facilitators.

(TC) And yet human population is at an all-time high and climbing. Apparently, the aliens aren't very good at killing us off.

Some people think we're being farmed.

Charles Fort

"I offer the data. Suit yourself."

So long as any evidence is ignored — however bizarre or unlikely the evidence might seem — Fort insisted that scientists' claims to thoroughness and objectivity were questionable.

'agnostic scepticism'

"But my liveliest interest is not so much in things, as in relations of things. I have spent much time thinking about the alleged pseudo-relations that are called coincidences. What if some of them should not be coincidence?"


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-27   17:16:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: wudidiz (#58)

YOU ARE HERE

Obviously that cannot be true unless the Little Gray Men gave you a photo of our solar system from their scrapbook.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: TooConservative (#63)

Google Images


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-27   17:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#62)

Some people think we're being farmed.

It's an old idea. Again, where is the evidence? People can and do make up crap all the time.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: TooConservative (#63)

YOU ARE HERE

I posted the picture to illustrate how big the Universe is.

I think it's absurd to suppose there is no other intelligent life in the Universe.

Given the size of the Universe, the probability of that is maybe zero.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-27   17:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: TooConservative (#65)

Some people think we're being farmed.

It's an old idea. Again, where is the evidence? People can and do make up crap all the time.

Not all the time. Some of the time they're telling the truth.

;-)

You mean evidence or proof?


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-27   17:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz (#66)

Given the size of the Universe, the probability of that is maybe zero.

It's not convincing. People say this but I would like to know how they got so much experience of the universe that they know this as a fact or even as a probability.

Our scientists greatly overestimate their knowledge and competence. And internet wannabes are even worse.

The universe is undoubtedly far stranger than we know or could possibly imagine.

As for Little Gray Men wanting to visit us, I can't imagine anything more boring. Unless we are tastier than I think.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-27   17:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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