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Title: Toronto police, G20: Obvious agents provocateurs in video
Source: YT
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeG_t9abaSU
Published: Jun 29, 2010
Author: NA
Post Date: 2010-06-29 13:10:04 by bluegrass
Keywords: None
Views: 396
Comments: 43


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At 0:46, right center of video: "Black Bloc" member running behind police lines. 0:21....UGH! MY EYES!

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#1. To: christine, Pinguinite, HOUNDDAWG, Prefrontal Vortex, abraxas, Jethro Tull, Original_Intent (#0)

So obvious it hurts: The police are here to preserve disorder.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-06-29   13:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-29   14:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

Did you see Miss Toronto 2010?:

bluegrass  posted on  2010-06-29   15:09:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: wudidiz, HighLairEon, noone222, FormerLurker, Artisan, farmfriend (#0)

Late flags....

bluegrass  posted on  2010-06-29   15:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-29   15:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-29   15:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bluegrass (#4)

Thank you very much.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-30   2:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: *9-11*, *North American Union*, *Escape From ElPee*, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Black Ops - Psyops*, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)

0:45


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-30   2:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#0)

I've no idea what they were doing in this video. Looks like they basically kidnapped someone.

Either these are plain-clothed policemen at a protest, or it's casual Friday for them.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-06-30   2:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bluegrass (#0)

Body armor and bicycles... and not Chinese!

"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-06-30   2:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bluegrass (#0) (Edited)

What the media ignored: 25,000 peacefully demonstrate against G20 policies in Toronto


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-30   3:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#9)

Did you see the Toronto G 20 riots?

One of the supposed "anarchists" a black bloc agent provocateur is seen running behind police lines at 0:45.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-30   3:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: wudidiz (#12)

One of the supposed "anarchists" a black bloc agent provocateur is seen running behind police lines at 0:45.

Okay, yes. A black outfit with hood.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-06-30   3:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bluegrass (#1)

So obvious it hurts: The police are here to preserve disorder.

I'm cynical if not jaded about most corruption.

But, this stuff angers me each time I see it and it makes me wanna slap some stoopid cops.

"Oh, we were assigned to blend in and monitor the crowd" they tell us.

"Well then, why did you perform violent street theater like breaking picture windows and trashing the police car that conveniently had its computer removed?" I'd love to ask.

The answer is obvious. Large gatherings of peaceful protesters frighten cops, and terrify the power elite. And both believe that to be inherently subversive.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-30   4:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: wudidiz (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-30   9:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-30   9:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

And when the s*** hits the fan, if I were a cop, I wouldn't feel safe leaving my home/family to go to work if this shit keeps up.

When I lived in LA in the early 80's I worked with off duty LAPD guys. I got to know them pretty well and I became an unofficial bootleg armorer by modifying their revolvers for them. (One retired LT and a still active SGT had me replace the hammers on their snub noses so they could again be cocked. All LAPD revolvers were modified for dbl action-only by grinding the full cock lip off the hammers. I also performed minor repairs, trigger jobs and mods for some 4" bbl'ed duty guns)

Because they (the white ones at least) considered me a friendly I was privy to some amazing conservations.

Once I heard an officer explaining to another that the German Civil authorities (police) kept their jobs and stayed on after the war by being non political, but he still had made plans to collect his family and head for his mountain safe house when the city exploded and there was no regaining control. I learned that all of the older officers had planned to retire well away from the city in places like Simi Valley. (which is why it was selected for the trial of the Rodney King Four)

Those white cops were well aware of the potential minority explosion and endless cannibal blood fest that was and is Los Angeles. They also knew that their no nonsense command presence (as depicted by the highly aggressive Sean Penn in the film "COLORS") would call for severe revenge, the kind we witnessed when Japanese Officers beheaded Allied soldiers with swords. But, more than likely it would be less of a ritual and more of a machete wilding, considering the black and Latino genetic predisposition for violence.

In places like Canada and many east coast cities, counties and states the cops feel relatively safe, and their arrogance is insufferable. Nothing short of an organized campaign of attacks (legal or otherwise) will cause them to rethink their "shooting, stomping and clubbing for Jesus" campaign against citizens.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-30   10:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

hit hits the fan, if I were a cop, I wouldn't feel safe leaving my home/family to go to work if this shit keeps up.

That's why they are considered to be "confidential Persons" and their addresses are not publicly available.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2010-06-30   10:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-30   11:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-30   11:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#19)

These brick-headed LEOs could have the liberty-loving civil populace on their side, but they'd rather fulfill their Napolean complex goals rather than exercise any vision, again, just like animals.

I agree.

There was a time when the majority would back the cops on questionable calls but now people including me tend to assume the worst.

And the real irony is strong govt breeds weak citizens, and as cops become more jack-booted citizens become more whiney and less prone to cooperate even when the cops are performing their duties as expected.

We see more and more vids of cops telling people to stay in the cars only to watch cops light em up when they fail to follow simple instructions. Weak citizens don't seem to understand that you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride (if they screw up and get TASERed then arrested) and like children they insist on challenging authority in the one place where they cannot win. You don't appeal to the same cop who is convinced of your guilt, and you sure don't get results by trying to chump him, which cops immediately assume you're doing when you don't follow instructions.

After a full day of whiney citizens, all of whom broke the RADAR in excess of 9 miles over the limit while insisting on their innocence, the stress builds up and cops vent it through abuse.

If one person successfully argued his/her way out of ticket,. or broke away and made good a permanent escape then I'd say. "GO FOR IT".

But that just doesn't happen.

And winning the way Rodney King did is a Pyrrhic victory. I wouldn't trade working brain cells or permanent skeletal damage for it.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-30   18:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Eric Stratton (#15) (Edited)

You mean the guys in the civvies? What, three of them?

No, at 0:45, the guy dressed all in black with the black ski mask running behind the police line.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-30   22:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

it sounds like you're saying obey every order dictated by the cops when interacting with them, or you will lose?? i strongly disagree. you can assert yourself with cops successfully

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-30   23:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: bluegrass, christine, Pinguinite, HOUNDDAWG, Prefrontal Vortex, abraxas, Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, wudidiz, Eric Stratton, tom007 (#0)

Prior to watching Nation's Deathbed I would not have believed police did this. Here is the youtube from that movie:


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-01   0:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)

considering the black and Latino genetic predisposition for violence

See? Racist!! just kiddin'. but seriously. any provable data on this?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   0:11:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: farmfriend (#24)

I remember the original video clip from when it was posted before, but without the follow up stuff. Thanks.

If the state is going to subvert the right to assemble and protest, then the people should refuse to pay the state. A constitution is a contract, and the state is in breach of it, so.... null and void is null and void.

Pinguinite  posted on  2010-07-01   1:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#24)

Thank you.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   4:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Artisan (#25)

See? Racist!! just kiddin'. but seriously. any provable data on this?

Nah, nothing but the FBI Uniform Crime Report.

Empirical data is easily dismissed, even points like "When was the last time that dirt poor whites rioted, looted, pillaged, murdered, etc?" (We're supposed to believe that poor Appalachians living in plywood shacks and drinking polluted well water enjoy "white skin privilege and therefore feel no ghetto rage!" HAH)

One the one hand they point out that most people on welfare are white which is true. But they can't explain why those white people (crammed into shabby trailer parks) don't burn down cities and cave truckers' heads in with bricks at stoplights.

Each year there are thousands of rapes of whites by blacks and *Hispanics, but zero reported rapes of blacks by whites. Tawana Brawley claimed that six whites including police raped her and smeared her with feces, and it turned out to be bullshit. Al Sharpton said, "If we pull this off we'll be the biggest niggas in New Yawk!"

It's not PC to point out that with minorities of low intelligence their genetics are their cultures. Margaret Mead tried to prove that tribal recipes for bird's head soup required as much intelligence as building a supercomputer, but we whites were blinded to the "truth" by our racism.

Any scientists (William Shockley, Charles Murray) who dared approach the truth were savaged. Believe it or not there are absolute taboos in our society, such as the rates of Jewish schizophrenia resulting from inbreeding. (Don't test this to prove that "America is a free country for academics". It isn't)

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*Actually, Hispanics are not a race but an ethnic group and the FBI stats list them as white. But a careful search of crime reports will reveal their ethnicity usually by the surnames and places of birth. What you won't see is a report that "Charles Wellington IV was arrested for the sexual assault of LaShanna Africa".

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-01   4:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Artisan (#23)

it sounds like you're saying obey every order dictated by the cops when interacting with them, or you will lose?? i strongly disagree. you can assert yourself with cops successfully

You've conveyed no info to speak of.

Would you please detail your experiences in anecdotal form and tell me what you gained?

We can discuss it in private if you prefer.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-01   4:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: wudidiz (#22)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   7:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#24)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   7:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#22)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   7:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#25)

See? Racist!! just kiddin'. but seriously. any provable data on this?

Men are more violent than women. One reason is higher testosterone. Nobody questions there's a genetic contribution to this.

Blacks have higher testosterone, combined with lower average reasoning ability, greater impulsiveness, and greater psychopathy. But they also have lower levels of neurosis, more fast-twitch muscle fiber, and greater group cohesion compared to whites; you can't fool a majority of them into consciously opposing their group interests or denying that they have any.

These things are heritable. Not 100% heritable, certainly, but their heritability is also not zero. That this is due partly or mostly to genetics is not considered controversial when discussing differences between individuals. But, in the absence of identification of specific contributing SNPs, alleles, or combinations thereof, it at least remains theoretically possible that differences in group averages are entirely due to environment. Nobody but suck-up social climbers actually believes this, or says they do.

But whether it's genetic or not, as a practical day-to-day matter, is almost irrelevant. People conflate cultural with tractable, and genetic with intractable.

It is important to remember though that the role of environment is not zero. Blacks in America were certainly better off some decades ago, by a number of measures of social pathology. And even if there is group genetic tendency to violence, that doesn't mean they're worse in some cosmic sense -- in God's eyes, say. It just means they are not well-adapted to the society in which early Americans placed them.

Interestingly, essentially tribal, animistic, aboriginal blacks are not especially violent compared to, say, South African blacks, or black African adherents of the old desert religions. Violence seems to be greatest where 1) blacks have been introduced to alien(white) ideas and conditions and 2) whites have subsequently withdrawn or refrained from imposing their own authority.

"Aba daba daba daba daba daba daba" said the chimp-y to the monk.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-07-01   14:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: HOUNDDAWG, original_intent (#28)

thanks for the information. oi, what do you think of this information?

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   14:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: HOUNDDAWG (#29)

first, could you clarify that my understanding of your comments is correct? when you say i conveyed no info, do you mean re: personal experience i've had with cops & law, etc? funny, i thought i relayed too much of that as it is, lol.but i will repeat examples, if you want.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   15:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Eric Stratton (#32)

that would be absolute barbarism, and very wicked. even provocatuer cops would not deserve such savagry.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   15:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#33)

very interesting post, thank you.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   15:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Artisan (#36)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   18:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#36)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   18:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Eric Stratton (#39)

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but the punishment should fit the crime, & be carried out in a judicious manner. i dont know if you've ever had a serious injury that had lifelong consequences, or been to physical therapy to repair damage, or restore mobility. the body is a sacred temple of the soul, a gift from God. a single kick to the skull, or teeth, or eye socket, or groin, ear, temple, can do irrepairable harm. i notice the tendency of thuggish groups to favor kicks to the head in recent years. ive seen cops do it to prone suspects on live tv. it is an inhumane cold wickedness that must be stopped. You are too good a man to be promoting it.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   20:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Artisan (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-07-01   20:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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