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Title: Ariz. Immigration Law Sought in 18 Other States
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/25/politics/main6619747.shtml
Published: Jun 30, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-06-30 11:59:32 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: SB1070
Views: 213
Comments: 10

(AP)  Arizona's sweeping new immigration law doesn't even take effect until next month, but lawmakers in nearly 20 other states are already clamoring to follow in its footsteps.

Gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Minnesota are singing the law's praises, as are some lawmakers in other states far from the Mexico border such as Idaho and Nebraska. But states also are watching legal challenges to the new law, and whether boycotts over it will harm Arizona's economy.

The law, set to take effect July 29, requires police to check the immigration status of anyone they think is in the country illegally. Violators face up to six months in jail and $2,500 in fines, in addition to federal deportation.

Lawmakers or candidates in as many as 18 states say they want to push similar measures when their legislative sessions start up again in 2011. Arizona-style legislation may have the best chance of passing in Oklahoma, which in 2007 gave police more power to check the immigration status of people they arrest.

Bills similar to the law Arizona's legislature approved in April have already been introduced in Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Minnesota, South Carolina and Michigan, but none will advance this year.

Business, agriculture and civil rights groups oppose such legislation, saying legal residents who are Hispanic would be unjustly harassed and that immigration is a federal rather than a state responsibility. Supporters say police will not stop people solely on the basis of skin color and argue that illegal immigrants are draining state coffers by taking jobs, using public services, fueling gang violence and filling prisons.

"If the feds won't do it, states are saying, 'We're going to have to do it,'" said Idaho state Sen. Monty Pearce. Pearce's second cousin is the author of the Arizona law, Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce, who like Monty Pearce is a Republican.

The debate is putting pressure on Congress and the Obama administration to act. In 2007, when states like Idaho and Kansas were making English their official languages as part of an immigration-related push, then-President George W. Bush failed to persuade even many Republican allies in the U.S. Senate to agree to combine increased border enforcement with a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

President Obama has called Arizona's law irresponsible, but Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer says it helped prompt him to send 1,200 National Guard members to the U.S.-Mexican border, mostly to her state. She and U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., say that's not enough.

McCain, Mr. Obama's one-time presidential rival, says the border needs a force approaching the 6,000 soldiers sent by Mr. Bush until 2008.

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Mr. Obama is asking Congress for $600 million in emergency funds for 1,000 more Border Patrol agents, 160 new federal immigration officers and two unmanned aircraft, but immigration is not at the top of his priorities this year. An Associated Press-GfK poll this month found that 85 percent of people now rank immigration as an important issue, and about half disapprove of how Mr. Obama has handled it.

In Florida, Arizona's law is a campaign issue in the GOP gubernatorial primary, with millionaire Rick Scott trumpeting its merits and Attorney General Bill McCollum saying he backs the law but that it's not needed in his state. Meanwhile, Minnesota gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer, the presumptive Republican nominee, called Arizona's bill "a wonderful first step."

Even lawmakers in states far from the U.S.-Mexico border say illegal immigration is hurting their constituents.

In Idaho, Monty Pearce cites one county that paid more than $100,000 for medical services for an indigent illegal immigrant. Supporters of a citizen initiative in Nevada say they're motivated by the state budget crisis and record unemployment.

In South Carolina, state law enforcement officials say Mexican drug gangs are moving north from Atlanta - a problem expected to intensify given that budget cuts have left fewer resources to go toe-to-toe with armed criminal groups.

And in Nebraska, where many Hispanics have found work at meatpacking plants, some blame illegal immigrants for draining community resources. Last week, the town of Fremont approved a ban on hiring or renting property to illegal immigrants.

State Sen. Charlie Janssen of Fremont plans to introduce a bill in 2011 based at least in part on Arizona's law. He said foes of illegal immigration must gird themselves for a fight from groups like the American Civil Liberties Union, which has vowed to sue over Fremont's measure.

"They shout 'racism' and try to bring down people who are trying to enforce our laws," said Janssen, a Republican in Nebraska's officially nonpartisan legislature. "It's their scare tactic."

William Gheen, president of the North Carolina-based Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee, said the more states that sign on, the more likely Congress will be to act. Gheen has led a grassroots campaign to get legislatures to take up Arizona's bill and believes the topic could become the litmus test in an election year when people are already slamming Washington.

"Any candidate that wants to survive the bloodbath that's approaching this November needs to come out in support" of Arizona's law, Gheen said. He sends regular e-mail messages urging about 30,000 recipients to contact their legislators to support similar bills.

Gheen claims that at least 18 states may pass Arizona-style reforms, but the National Conference of State Legislature calls this more a "wish list" than a reflection of likely success. In Pennsylvania, for instance, the issue is being pushed mostly by a single lawmaker.

There has been little sign that the other three states that border Mexico will follow Arizona's lead. California, New Mexico and Texas have long-established, politically powerful Hispanic communities, and have seen less illegal immigration than Arizona since the 1990s, when the U.S. government added fences, stadium lights and more agents to the border in California and Texas.

Arizona, a state of 6.6 million with an estimated 486,000 illegal immigrants, has been affected by the issue more than other states, said Ann Morse, who heads the National Conference of State Legislature's Immigrant Policy Project.

In three years, U.S. Border Patrol agents in Arizona arrested nearly 1 million illegal immigrants, about half of all arrests on U.S. borders. More slipped past, fueling a smuggling industry that has been blamed for a steady rise in kidnappings and immigrant safehouses.

Vivek Malhotra, advocacy and policy counsel for the ACLU, said she thinks the threat of Arizona-style legislation will continue to be a rallying cry into 2011, but believes many states ultimately won't follow through for fear of repercussions.

City councils in Los Angeles, Sacramento, Calif., and Bloomington, Ind., are among the governments that have boycotted Arizona, refusing to do business with companies based there. Lawmakers in California are considering a plan for their state to follow suit.

"Nobody wants to see their state perceived as unwelcoming," said Malhotra, whose group is suing Arizona over its law.

Also lining up against state-by-state legislation are business and agriculture groups. Brent Olmstead, lobbyist for Idaho's $2 billion dairy industry, pledged to work to kill Arizona-style reforms in Idaho in 2011 just as he did to block past bills seeking to punish companies that hire illegal workers.

"The issue just gets more convoluted," Olmstead said. "It sends a message that the Latino and Hispanic population isn't wanted."

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

"The issue just gets more convoluted," Olmstead said. "It sends a message that the Latino and Hispanic population isn't wanted."

That sums up nicely the pro-illegal argument - mislabel it as racism against hispanics. It is nothing more than a variation of the "if your opposed to Israeli Human Rights abuses and Genocide yer' an anti-semite".

In neither case is it true.

The opposition is not to Americans of Spanish descent but opposition to foreign invaders from a foreign culture illegally crossing our border, acting like they own the place, and bringing their crime and cultural degradation with them. And to some degree it is not even the illegals individually as some of them are quite nice and decent, BUT they are a foreign culture and are here in violation of our laws, our sovereignity, many belonging to gangs or having a criminal record/inclination, speaking a foreign language, and disturbing the peace. We cannot, as a culture, continue to absorb this flow without it disrupting our society. It is in fact already disrupting our society.

So, all the defenders of this flood can do is shout RACIST in a crowed theater.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-30   12:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And to some degree it is not even the illegals individually as some of them are quite nice and decent, BUT they are a foreign culture and are here in violation of our laws, our sovereignity, many belonging to gangs or having a criminal record/inclination, speaking a foreign language, and disturbing the peace. We cannot, as a culture, continue to absorb this flow without it disrupting our society. It is in fact already disrupting our society.

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Exactly.

Let me ask you this? Do illegal aliens have RIGHTS being here illegally in the first place, and most importantly WHAT authority gives them those rights?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-30   12:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-30   12:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

An Emergency Gulf Coast Evacuation Could Prompt Obama To Grant Amnesty For Illegal Aliens Using The Crisis As Full Justification

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-30   12:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I told everyone there is a tipping point in which everything breaks and everyone piles on. This is it.

People think life is linear. It's not.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-06-30   12:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me ask you this? Do illegal aliens have RIGHTS being here illegally in the first place, and most importantly WHAT authority gives them those rights?

They, in my opinion, have the same rights as any other criminal, the right to a fair hearing followed by immediate deportation, or incarceration if a criminal - followed by deportation. The Constitution is a limitation on the government and exceptions for any class of individual diminishes the liberty of all and grants power to government it should not have. So, while it causes me to grit my teeth, if they are caught within our borders, due process and everything else applies. We can make no exception except at risk to our own liberty.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-30   12:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So, while it causes me to grit my teeth, if they are caught within our borders, due process and everything else applies. We can make no exception except at risk to our own liberty.

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I agree, however it is a catch-22, and also the reason why DEPORTATION is continually viewed as not being a political option.

Ike Eisenhower was our last president to do something about it.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-06-30   12:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

(AP) Arizona's sweeping new immigration law doesn't even take effect until next month, but lawmakers in nearly 20 other states are already clamoring to follow in its footsteps.

That's an impressive start.

states also are watching legal challenges to the new law, and whether boycotts over it will harm Arizona's economy.

If that happens, boycott Mexico and its products.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-06-30   12:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

An Emergency Gulf Coast Evacuation Could Prompt Obama To Grant Amnesty For Illegal Aliens Using The Crisis As Full Justification

Presidents don't have that power legitimately and "Acting" pResidents who don't qualify Constitutionally per the natural born citizen requirement are actually completely powerless authoritywise.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-06-30   13:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I keep looking for my state in these lists, VA.

Not happening.

Just a thought but lots of places use voluntary pin numbers to password their members. Maybe that's a solution instead of "Real ID" that could eliminate the profiling gripes and get more states on board with AZ? No racially anonymous pin number that an officer can have you punch in if stopped to show him valid citizenship status -- uh-oh.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-06-30   13:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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