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Title: The Sweet Smell of Victory
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Published: Jul 2, 2010
Author: ghostdogtxn
Post Date: 2010-07-02 16:42:07 by ghostdogtxn
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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
The saddest thing is you can't sue the balls off of the lying cops! Were they held financially responsible for the costs of their actions, perhaps they would again become "Peace Officers" as opposed to "Law Enforcement Officers".
The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions. - George Carlin
I don't think you did a bad thing. You did your job and defended a man who, based on what you presented here and then the case against him dismissed, was innocent of "being in on the whole thing." In any case, when a cop/prosecutor/official hides or falsifies evidence, they deserve to lose. I think being a libertarian means that I support the right of people to move freely about to find a better life, even if it means crossing some line in the sand, and even if that line is a border. On this I disagree with you. This is now about our economic survival as people and as a country. How many illegals do we have now? 11 million is reported, but I believe the real number is 2-4 times that. We can't take in the whole world. We have finite resources.
Good on you, bro. The illegals are here in the first place because of the State.
I do Mr Lawyer. You have no clue what really happened, and if you weren't a paid agent of the court, you'd have a real job, perhaps painting a house.
The REAL problem has nothing to do with the illegals, the US government or the truck driver. If the illegal aliens had a an automobile mishap, it was the carsalesman fault for not disclosing truth about the vehicle. I wager the illegals drove one of those cheap Japanese imports, too. CASE CLOSED!
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
....but not if that "line in the sand" or that border happens to be the edge of your own lot or acreage. Or the inside of your house or home. It becomes a matter of degree, or.........it's OK in your backyard but not in MY backyard! :)
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lod
Agreed. Me thinks Mr. Ghost doth protest to loud???? Quite often a month or two in the trenches does incline a libertarian to face reality.
Exactly.. Do anything you want as long as it does not infringe on me. If it does, I will call the law upon you. LIBERTARIAN...noun liberal, radical, moderate, humanitarian, reformist
....but not if that "line in the sand" or that border happens to be the edge of your own lot or acreage. Or the inside of your house or home. It becomes a matter of degree, or.........it's OK in your backyard but not in MY backyard! :) This the argument that basically I would have made. A property line is not merely an arbitrary "line in the sand" it is a demarcation establishing the boundaries of an ownership right. And certainly the right to own property is a libertarian principle, as is a contract. The boundaries of a country are lines establishing the property line i.e., ownership. How that property is maintained and defended is governed by law. The law is established upon the basis of a contract called the Constitution, both of the nation and of the state. The use of that property and the right of use are established by those rules and laws which establish an ownership share called citizenship. As a legal citizen a person is party to the aforementioned contract and as such has an ownership right as delineated by the covenants we call law. An illegal alien is someone not a party to the contract nor ceded a limited use such as a Green Card. They are basically trespassing unlawfully upon the property of another i.e., the citizens of the United States. As such they are in violation of the property rights of another and should be dealt with as such i.e., kicked out.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Man has always needed and demanded a social order. Someone has to be in charge. Libertarians would deny this, until someone infringes upon their turf, and THEN they want recourse. Established order of some kind has ALWAYS been the norm, the free will, if it feels good do it philosophy, has never ruled and never will.
If a nation isn't about Language, Border and Culture it isn't a nation. To those who reject this quaint notion, let them move someplace - some non- existent someplace - that celebrates diversity and an ever growing rate of taxation that can be used to support those who demand services they haven't paid for.
The boundaries of a country are lines establishing the property line i.e., ownership. How that property is maintained and defended is governed by law. The law is established upon the basis of a contract called the Constitution, both of the nation and of the state. The use of that property and the right of use are established by those rules and laws which establish an ownership share called citizenship. As a legal citizen a person is party to the aforementioned contract and as such has an ownership right as delineated by the covenants we call law. outstanding..that's the best and most fair argument i've read against illegals.
Thank you. Although I expressed it formally it has been my basic point of view for sometime. After all what is a nation? It is nothing more than the agreements of a group to band together under a system of common beliefs. The land upon which they live, their property, is parceled in accord with the rules they establish, and the group's territory is all that land within those arbitrary lines on a map. Which are not so arbitrary when you think about it.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Any white that lives in this country and does NOT want a commonality of any kind to bind us together as a nation, should move, leave we uneducated heathen whites alone.
Why doesn't ol' O_I belt out "PRIVATE" or "PERSONAL" or "CITIZEN" rights if his libertarian thesis is all that HOT?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
Man has always needed and demanded a social order. Someone has to be in charge. Libertarians would deny this, until someone infringes upon their turf, and THEN they want recourse. Established order of some kind has ALWAYS been the norm, the free will, if it feels good do it philosophy, has never ruled and never will. Which is why I am a PaleoLibertarian as opposed to the more modern, and currently fashionable, fetish of Anarcho-Libertarianism. You are quite right, man wants order, and in his highest state brings order to the world around him/her. I once had a protracted argument on LF on the point with a well spoken and ardent anarcho-capitalist. The Paleolibertarian viewpoint is basically what an anarchist calls minarchism - or minimal government. The upshot being, and my position in the argument, is because of this desire to bring order to the environment anarchism, the pure theoretical kind, simply cannot exist, and if it did for even a short time then some form of order, whether good or bad, would come about. Whether it be by the local chief thug subjugating everyone in the vicinity or by the formation of that which we once had - a Constitutional Republic. Free will still exists but there are rational boundaries in a sane an civil society. The old saw being that "your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose". In a society of more than one then there will always be limits to the pure exercise of free will, but I am not enslaved by the obligation to be a good neighbor as it is reciprocal - in a sane society.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
No, you're consistent. You're an attorney (lawyer-liar; a slimey son of a bitch to begin with) that is quite possibly, first and foremost, an illegal alien - Loving-son-of-a-bitch-Traitor. Carry on...
The interests of Americans are not the primary fiduciary responsibility that a card carrying at-torn-ey bears...and we all know the texassdog loves that cheap tan klan labor. Might even pay them in meth, who knows...
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Truck drivers pick up 3 wetback hitchhikers all the time, right? Bullshit. Did the driver own the rig or was he working for someone? Truckers insurance usually specifically prohibits picking up anybody and if he was working for a company they would fire him. I'll bet a bucket of tacos the driver was a spic himself and was sympathetic to the wets or was being paid. You got a guilty man off the hook, nice work scumbag
WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)
did your client ever give the location of the broken down car? did one exist?
What the cop did.
That is if the client is telling the truth of course.
What's your proof the immigration officer made those remarks? The lying illegal cargo who threw your smuggling client under the bus to say whatever they think they can get away with to their advantage? What's your proof the recorder was on, erased, or taped over? What would be your argument if there was no recorder? I don't think you're a Libertarian. I think you're an Anarchist. Anrchrist Lawyer. Sounds oxymoronic.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The INS officer should have said "I'll take these illegal mexicons off your hands" and the DPS officer should have said to the truck driver "Here's your license, hit the road!". That's the way that situation should have ended.
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The cop/INS officer have NO way of verifying when/where the illegals crawled into his truck cab. If I were a cop, I would have just pulled the illegals out and sent the truck driver down the road with a warning to be more careful about who he picks up. Was the truck driver an American citizen??
__________________________________________________________ Typical. As I said, you haven't a clue what happened, but please don't let that stand in the way of your bias.
A good while back, more than a decade ago I'm sure, I attended a couple of local Libertarian gatherings. I found them liberally sprinkled with off the wall odd balls like you. In those days it was rants about dope, abortion, and such. You and your extremist ilk are a heavy load, probably too heavy for the party to carry forward to any measure of success unless you're purged.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats
In that case they are trespassing on my private property. Private property rights are fundamental to the whole libertarian philosophy. So if you live a lot or two inside the southern border and a pack of wetbacks trounce through your backyard, shoot the bastards. But if the guy whose lot line line IS the border you bust your balls for the invaders. You're truly a piece of work.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Now, for you rabid anti-illegal alien crowd who think I did a bad thing here, tell me what is worse: My client's giving these illegals a ride from El Paso to Dallas or a cop erasing a video tape with exculpatory evidence on it and an INS official sanitizing a report to hide exculpatory evidence?
#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
Now, for you rabid anti-illegal alien crowd who think I did a bad thing here, tell me what is worse: My client's giving these illegals a ride from El Paso to Dallas or a cop erasing a video tape with exculpatory evidence on it and an INS official sanitizing a report to hide exculpatory evidence?
#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
I say simply, I am a libertarian. And today I gave the State, Inc. a small black eye. Tomorrow I will try to do it again.
#4. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
I will go further. I know many of you think I am an illegal alien loving traitor to Amurka and all that.
#5. To: All (#4)
Truck drivers picking up a few extra bucks on the side
#6. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
Now, for you rabid anti-illegal alien crowd who think I did a bad thing here, tell me what is worse: My client's giving these illegals a ride from El Paso to Dallas or a cop erasing a video tape with exculpatory evidence on it and an INS official sanitizing a report to hide exculpatory evidence?
#7. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
(Edited)
I think being a libertarian means that I support the right of people to move freely about to find a better life, even if it means crossing some line in the sand, and even if that line is a border.
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
I do Mr Lawyer. You have no clue what really happened, and if you weren't a paid agent of the court, you'd have a real job, perhaps painting a house.
#9. To: Bub (#7)
....but not if that "line in the sand" or that border happens to be the edge of your own lot or acreage. Or the inside of your house or home. It becomes a matter of degree, or.........it's OK in your backyard but not in MY backyard! :)
#10. To: Bub, ghostdogtxn (#7)
I think being a libertarian means that I support the right of people to move freely about to find a better life, even if it means crossing some line in the sand, and even if that line is a border.
#11. To: Original_Intent (#10)
An illegal alien is someone not a party to the contract nor ceded a limited use such as a Green Card. They are basically trespassing unlawfully upon the property of another i.e., the citizens of the United States. As such they are in violation of the property rights of another and should be dealt with as such i.e., kicked out.
#12. To: Cynicom (#8)
#13. To: Original_Intent (#10)
A property line is not merely an arbitrary "line in the sand" it is a demarcation establishing the boundaries of an ownership right. And certainly the right to own property is a libertarian principle, as is a contract.
#14. To: christine (#13)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
If a nation isn't about Language, Border and Culture it isn't a nation.
#16. To: christine (#13)
outstanding..that's the best and most fair argument i've read against illegals.
#17. To: Cynicom (#11)
An illegal alien is someone not a party to the contract nor ceded a limited use such as a Green Card. They are basically trespassing unlawfully upon the property of another i.e., the citizens of the United States. As such they are in violation of the property rights of another and should be dealt with as such i.e., kicked out.
#18. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#19. To: All (#18)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#20. To: christine (#2)
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#21. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
the trooper notices 3 passengers in the client's sleeper. He asks, who are those people?
#22. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
The INS officer's report makes no mention of the aliens first saying that my client picked them up on the side of the road with a broken down car.
#23. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
...tell me what is worse: My client's giving these illegals a ride from El Paso to Dallas or a cop erasing a video tape with exculpatory evidence on it and an INS official sanitizing a report to hide exculpatory evidence?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#24. To: All (#23)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#25. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
#26. To: buckeroo (#6)
#27. To: Bub (#7)
#28. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#29. To: X-15 (#28)
#30. To: christine (#22)
#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)
(Edited)
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)
He gave the location. They never checked. By the time we sent our investigator it was a month later and there was no vehicle there.
#33. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)
I think being a libertarian means that I support the right of people to move freely about to find a better life, even if it means crossing some line in the sand, and even if that line is a border.
#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)
....but not if that "line in the sand" or that border happens to be the edge of your own lot or acreage.
#35. To: X-15 (#31)
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
#37. To: iconoclast (#34)
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