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Title: What in the Heck is Wrong with Women?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-07-04 10:27:59 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Why in the hell do women voluntarily watch movies they know going to make them cry? I just don't understand it. My wife actually seeks out these kinds of movies. I believe there is brain damage involved.
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#93. To: Original_Intent (#87)
It wasn't just Clint that made the Dirty Dozen so great....it was Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Telly Savales too. The cast included many WWII vets. Lee Marvin is hard to beat in Dirty Dozen. : ) But, alas, I'll give the "Devil's Brigrade" a try.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Similar in theme to Gladiator really. I think I would go vice versa on that as William Wallace really did live and the story of the movie was based on real life characters and events. I liked the final closing scene because I knew the history. The call by Robert The Brus to fight for him as they had for Wallace was at the "Battle of Bannockburn" where the Scots stood against a much superior English force. Through sheer grit and fighting spirit, with the assistance of a cavalry charge of armored Knight's Templar at the end of long hours of hand to hand fighting, carried the day. Scotland remained free for more than two centuries after the rout of the English.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Me too. Don't forget the Deer Hunter, I might have to put that even a hair ahead of Apocalypse now in the surrealism department.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I liked Saving Private Ryan. Although "Good Morning Vietnam" was based on a true story I found the movie too chaotic to be enjoyable. It did not have tight enough control on telling the story. I haven't seen "Saving Private Ryan" simply because the WWII Vets, of which I am aware, were hit so hard by its realism that it made me shy away.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It was up there with Apollo 13.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Unforgiven is classic Clint. Basically they piss him off and he kills them all. I liked "Heartbreak Ridge" - even though the thing on Granada really wasn't a war. Every enlisted man has met an Officer like the prick in that movie. It was just satisfying to see him "get his".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I saw it but I don't remember it. How about Outlaw Jose Wales?
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Me too. Don't forget the Deer Hunter, I might have to put that even a hair ahead of Apocalypse now in the surrealism department. It ties in with FF's comment on her PBR riding friend - so many succumbed to drugs to evade the daily horrors.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Not as much gut wrenching action, but a good story. All the better because it is true. And I have to agree on Lee Marvin. I also liked him in "Donovan's Reef" with John Wayne.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Did you see the Usual Suspects? That was one of my favorites too...great acting, great lines, great story that isn't obvious. No love story in that one. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
And I haven't seen that. :-)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Alas, no I have not seen it. I have seen all of the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett as Holmes. I did not know he was in "My Fair Lady" until I picked up the restored reissue of the movie. Which, while I generally don't care for musicals, is one of my all time favorite movies.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Ah, if you like Sherlock Holmes, you will love the Usual Suspects. Kevin Spacey is so good, along with Benito Del Toro. I know you will love this one. You have to think about what's going on and the ending is a complete surprise, it doesn't get much better than that duo. : ) Oh, and bonus, it has the surreal feel to it, if you don't mind that sort of violence, twisted with five crooks to try to figure out.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Another good one, if you have not seen it, is "Murder By Decree" which pits Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack The Ripper and a Masonic cabal protecting the Ripper. Christopher Plummer plays Holmes.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I haven't seen that one.......but, it sounds intriguing. Did you ever see the Spanish Prisoner with Steve Martin? That's a good one too. If you like dark humor, you can't hardly beat 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag with Joe Pesci.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
If I remember correctly, that is what Nancy Reagan said she was in Atlanta for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Have not seen either, but the "8 Heads in a Duffle Bag" sounds darkly humorous just from the title. I am NOT a Steve Martin fan. He has always rubbed me the wrong way, I don't find him either funny or entertaining. About the closest is the dark comedy "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" with Michael Caine. However, I am biased in that I like Michael Caine who also did another one of my favorite movies "Educating Rita".
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
He plays a serious role in the Spanish Prisoner and does a really good job. It's another one of those stories that you have to follow, then are surprised by the ending. I did like him in The Jerk.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Thinking of another out of character comedian in a serious role - Bill Murray in the screen adaptation of Wm. Somerset Maughm's "The Razor's Edge". Simply stunning and if you have not seen it I would recommend it as a "must" see.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
I haven't seen that one either. I hated that movie Lost in Translation that he did. But, I loved Kingpin.....that one had some really funny scenes.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I think "The Razor's Edge" is probably the best work he has ever done. It is also the one he has said in interviews of which he is most proud. It truly is a GREAT Movie, and one that I think will stand the test of time. I find it sad that the original "Saturday Night Live" crew has generally not reached those heights again. Although Jane Curtain, I don't think, cares to. She is perfectly happy on her ranch in Southern Oregon. She'll come out and do something every once in a while just to keep her hand in, but I don't think the Hollywood life is her "cup of tea". Good for her.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Yeah he was. He had that "dead fish eyes, you are a walking dead man" look down perfectly. I've actually seen a man like that. The real thing is a little spooky. But Godfather 3 should have been thrown in the trash. That was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I don't blame Pacino for that. They just didn't know to stop while they were ahead. Did you see 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag? Never heard of it. But if I catch it at the video store I'll get it. What? Are you saying that there's no such thing as an endless magazine? : ) Recoil is another thing they forget about. LOL! You'd think they could at least fake it. It's what they are paid to do, after all. I guess I'm being too picky. I actually noticed it when they used T38s (US trainers) in Top Gun (another silly movie) as the ones flown by the Bad Guys, and other shortcuts they use. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or They used recoil in Men in Black. The chirping cricket or noisy cricket has quite a kick.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." How about Play Misty for Me ? The Outlaw Josey Wales ? The TV show Rawhide ? Big, big, ups to Clint.
How could I have forgotten Space Cowboys, with some of our favs of all time?
How was your "With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." The steers did not die in vain. Ground sirloin burgers were yummy. Thanks for asking. (I may pop a Roll-Aids or two.)
Men relate to the Spec Ops Community, where the prevailing philosophy is, "There are very few human problems that can't be solved with a sufficient charge of high explosives". IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....
lol.....my mom sent me packing on so many guilt trips that she wore that one out for me. : )
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
lol.....my mom sent me packing on so many guilt trips that she wore that one out for me. : ) Some fathers do that, too. I mean, I try not to use guilt manipulation when my child wears hair ribbons at inappropriate times, but frankly, I'm worried about my son....
Farm Film Report Funny! I particularly liked the Helen Reddy explosion. "I AM WOMAN hear me bitch...buy my songs and make me rich...." And when I fake an "O" you know that it's pretend 'cause you've heard it all before When I was down here on all fours Are you ever goin' down on me again?"
I am a strong... I am invincible... I am KABOOM!!! lol
thank you. much better. ;) i agree with Rose Kennedy, btw.
There are plots there. Quite primal plots really, ones you can find throughout history, even back to (but not exclusive to) Beowulf. There are only, I believe, 7 or 8 distinct *basic* plots you can write (you can write, fwiw, themes/variations on the basics which also are viewed as plots of course). The films you note, fall neatly into some of those categories (I had to google the exact terminology, been a while since I've had to officially recall them). 1. man vs. nature Rambo - man vs. man Independence Day - man vs. machines/technology (or supernatural, depending on how you categorize aliens, but to me, aliens just mean "higher tech" in this context) Die Hard - man vs. man (men)
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
lol.....I think the plot got lost in my musings over the endless magazine and gratuitous explosions in those movies. : ) You can't speak of those films in relation to Beowulf.....derb nub it!! Respect my authoriton, SOL. hehehehe
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
:) Beowulf was the first action hero, hands down. His story was the Anglo-Saxon equivalent of The Terminator. It's a great story, clearly (I've been attempting to read through the actual Anglo-Saxon original, in the original Old English, which is essentially a germanic language that is far removed from what we speak today). But if you get down to it, he's a really strong, fast, athletic warrior who rides around in viking ships with other armed men, looking for fights to pick in order to bring back treasure and glory, and a fair dose of bragging in between all the hubabbalo of fighting monsters and dragons. Gotta love that.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
Yep, Beowulf was the firstr. I can't think of anyone before him. Man vs. Monster! All any good action film needs is Blood, Beasts and Breasts.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Without question. Mythologies that predate the Beowulf story feature gods and men relating to gods. While there was plenty of bloodshed, etc., it was all in relation to mysticism and gods. Beowulf was the man on the move, the self made warrior who earned his honor and fame from humble roots via great deeds. He was the first true hero, because he set down the things a man needed to do to gain honor at the time; seek glory, never back down from a fight, take the battle to the enemy, drink heavily afterward, hit on hot women who serve you mead, and get yourself proclaimed a king through your reputation alone. These are things any random Olaf or Sven could relate to and emulate. True meritocracy in action.
"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC
From Sleepless In Seattle: Sam Baldwin: Well I'm not looking for a mail-order bride! I just want somebody I can have a decent conversation with over dinner. Without it falling down into weepy tears over some movie! __________________________________________________________Although I am a big Clint Walker fan (played "Posy"). Mainly because it was based on a true story and the chemistry of the actors was more realistic.
#94. To: farmfriend (#80)
Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.
#95. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#89)
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For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now".
#96. To: farmfriend (#92)
Worst Nam movie was Good Morning Vietnam.
#97. To: Original_Intent (#96)
I haven't seen "Saving Private Ryan" simply because the WWII Vets, of which I am aware, were hit so hard by its realism that it made me shy away.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#98. To: farmfriend (#90)
I haven't seen "The Unforgiven" but yes I thought it was better than "The Dirty Dozen".
#99. To: Original_Intent (#98)
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#100. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#95)
For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now".
#101. To: abraxas (#93)
Lee Marvin is hard to beat in Dirty Dozen. : ) But, alas, I'll give the "Devil's Brigrade" a try.
#102. To: Original_Intent (#101)
#103. To: farmfriend (#99)
I saw it but I don't remember it. How about Outlaw Jose Wales?
#104. To: abraxas (#102)
Did you see the Usual Suspects? That was one of my favorites too...great acting, great lines, great story that isn't obvious. No love story in that one. : )
#105. To: Original_Intent (#104)
(Edited)
#106. To: abraxas (#105)
#107. To: Original_Intent (#106)
#108. To: farmfriend (#91)
He was there for the drugs.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#109. To: abraxas (#107)
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Did you ever see the Spanish Prisoner with Steve Martin? That's a good one too. If you like dark humor, you can't hardly beat 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag with Joe Pesci.
#110. To: Original_Intent (#109)
I am NOT a Steve Martin fan. He has always rubbed me the wrong way, I don't find either funny or entertaining.
#111. To: abraxas (#110)
#112. To: Original_Intent (#111)
#113. To: abraxas (#112)
I haven't seen that one either. I hated that movie Lost in Translation that he did. But, I loved Kingpin.....that one had some really funny scenes.
#114. To: abraxas (#54)
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OUTiA is in the mix and the Godfather. Al Paccino was great in that.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#115. To: PSUSA, abraxas, Original_Intent (#114)
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Recoil is another thing they forget about. LOL! You'd think they could at least fake it. It's what they are paid to do, after all.
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#116. To: farmfriend, movie fans, critics, and panners (#75)
#117. To: All (#116)
#118. To: Lod (#117)
How could I have forgotten Space Cowboys, with some of our favs of all time?
sacrifice BBQ?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#119. To: farmfriend (#118)
#120. To: abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, wudidiz, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#28)
So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?
#121. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)
IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....
#122. To: abraxas (#121)
IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....
#123. To: HOUNDDAWG, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#120)
"There are very few human problems that can't be solved with a sufficient charge of high explosives".
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#124. To: wudidiz, christine, abraxas, farmfriend (#123)
Blowed Up Real Good
#125. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, abraxas, farmfriend (#124)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#126. To: christine (#17)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy
#127. To: wudidiz (#126)
#128. To: abraxas (#28)
So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?
2. man vs. man
3. man vs. the environment
4. man vs. machines/technology
5. man vs. the supernatural
6. man vs. self
7. man vs. god/religion
#129. To: SonOfLiberty (#128)
#130. To: abraxas (#129)
#131. To: SonOfLiberty (#130)
#132. To: Turtle (#131)
#133. To: Turtle, All (#13)
Greg: She's, as you just saw, very emotional.
Sam Baldwin: Although I cried at the end of "the Dirty Dozen."
Greg: Who didn't?
Sam Baldwin: Jim Brown was throwing these hand grenades down these airshafts. And Richard Jaeckel and Lee Marvin...[Begins to cry]
Sam Baldwin: ...were sitting on top of this armored personnel carrier, dressed up like Nazis...
Greg: [Crying too] Stop, stop!
Sam Baldwin: And Trini Lopez...
Greg: Yes, Trini Lopez!
Sam Baldwin: He busted his neck while they were parachuting down behind the Nazi lines...
Greg: Stop.
Sam Baldwin: And Richard Jaeckel - at the beginning he had on this shiny helmet...
Greg: [Crying harder] Please no more. Oh God! I loved that movie.
Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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