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Title: What in the Heck is Wrong with Women?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-07-04 10:27:59 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Why in the hell do women voluntarily watch movies they know going to make them cry? I just don't understand it. My wife actually seeks out these kinds of movies.

I believe there is brain damage involved.

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#1. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

What I never got is that they can burst into instantaneous tears. Bam, they start the geysers in a nanosecond.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   10:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#1)

What I never got is that they can burst into instantaneous tears. Bam, they start the geysers in a nanosecond.

Well my wife doesn't do that, but she will go out of her way to watch a movie that will make her cry. The sadder the better is her mantra. It's senseless.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-04   10:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

The reason I said "women" instead of "my wife" is because it's not just my wife. Her and her friends seek these movies out. They talk about them afterward, with tears!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-04   10:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

Why can't a woman be more like a man! -- 'enry 'iggins.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   10:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Brain damage has nothing to do with it. If it did, I would be watching those kinds of movies 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-04   10:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

can you name some of the movies?

christine  posted on  2010-07-04   11:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#6)

can you name some of the movies?

The latest was Step Mom with Julia Roberts and Susan Sarandon. Susan Sarandon dies of cancer at the end and my wife bawled like a baby. LOL! What's so bad is that she seen the movie before and KNEW that it was going to make her cry, yet she watched it anyway.

She thinks that it's important to watch movies like this so that you always appreciate what you have and never take anything for granted.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-04   11:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Don't be a dope.

Women are as they are. They are as they are so that they will rescue, and nurture and keep the young and small things that need rescuing and nurturing and feeding.

Go clean your guns and worry about something else. That's what I do when I can't figure something out.

There is no long form.

randge  posted on  2010-07-04   11:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

She thinks that it's important to watch movies like this so that you always appreciate what you have and never take anything for granted.

well, that's a good reason. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-07-04   11:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#6)

A Boy and His Dog

Mad Max2: The Road Warrior

Trinity Is Still My Name

Goodfella's

The Godfather

Silence of the Lambs

A Clockwork Orange

Scarface

The Exorcist

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-04   11:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#10)

those made you cry? ;)

christine  posted on  2010-07-04   11:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#11)

Yes... parts made me laugh so hard I started getting tears in my eyes.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-07-04   11:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bush_is_a_moonie, christine (#12)

Yes... parts made me laugh so hard I started getting tears in my eyes.

When someone dies in a horrible way, but it's funny, now that's a guy movie!

Women will never understand.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   11:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#7)

What's so bad is that she seen the movie before and KNEW that it was going to make her cry, yet she watched it anyway.

Maybe she thought she wouldn't die the second time she watched it. LOL!

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-04   12:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

Women like the emotional release that these movies provide them. Some women like it more than others. My wife doesn't like that kind of movie very often, but sometimes, very rarely, she will cry at a movie.

echo5sierra  posted on  2010-07-04   12:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

God put the poontang on the dumb one. Otherwise men would have no use for them. ;)


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Critter  posted on  2010-07-04   12:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, All, I'd rather be shootin' (#8)

Yesterday in CenTex hill country...Melissa in pink (a friend of my son's) and Brooke (my son's girlfriend who I think may be the one ;)

christine  posted on  2010-07-04   13:58:26 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge, F.A. Hayek Fan, christine, farmfriend, abraxas, CadetD, Polar Opposites, all (#8)

Women are as they are. They are as they are so that they will rescue, and nurture and keep the young and small things that need rescuing and nurturing and feeding.

Go clean your guns and worry about something else. That's what I do when I can't figure something out.

Exactly. Men and Women, Viva La Differance', are complements not identities. Often they do the same things but different ways. However, the focus is different, as is the orientation. Men think in terms of providing and defending, and women in terms of children and nest. Boys play with trucks, and girls with "dollies".

Just don't expect me to watch "Fried Green Tomatoes" and not make rude comments.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   14:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#17)

Brooke (my son's girlfriend who I think may be the one ;)

Your son has good taste. But can she hit the bullseye and bait her own hook?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   14:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)

yesterday was her first shooting experience and she loved it. especially the shotgun. as for baiting, she hooked my son. she's an absolute doll and they seem to be perfect for each other. i'm very happy for them. ;P

christine  posted on  2010-07-04   14:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#20)

Coolness. A shotgun is a good weapon for a woman. Even if you don't hit'em it'll scare the hell out of em'. Point granted on the hook. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   14:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, christine (#0)

Do you mean to say that you've never watched WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS?

The 1974 original starred Beverly Garland as the sweet farm wife and mother, and when she was sliding around on the soapy floor after the dogs ran through the house I thought to myself, "Ol' Walt Disney shore knows how to do subliminal soft porn!"

The 2003 remake starred Dave Matthews and I was surprised that it had the same absurd plot detail where the boy would chop down every tree that had a coon in it, instead of knocking the critter out with a .22 rifle of course. Disney couldn't show THAT but, can you imagine chopping down a twelve inch diameter tree with a hatchet AND returning at daybreak with three or four coons in the bag? That was just plain silly, but with that little suspension of disbelief it's a real tear jerker for boys, just like the 1957 classic, Old Yeller.

Yeah, sometimes after a hard day of hunting, 4 wheeling, log rolling and gator wrestling, me and the boys just like to rent the movie LOVE STORY and have a real good cry.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-04   14:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG, F.A. Hayek Fan, christine (#22)

Yeah, sometimes after a hard day of hunting, 4 wheeling, log rolling and gator wrestling, me and the boys just like to rent the movie LOVE STORY and have a real good cry.

My idea of a good "tear jerker" is "The Cowboys" or "Rooster Cogburn", but then I'm jes' a po' country boy at heart. ;-)

You did have to mention Old Yeller didn't you? Now, I've got a very unmanly tear running down. I loved that movie as a kid. Still do for that matter. Reminds me of my own boyhood friend, Rags, growing up. He was the bestest dog that ever lived.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   14:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, christine (#23)

...Old Yeller ....

I never saw the movie.

Let me see if I got it right. It's about a cat that everyone loves, right? (heh heh)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-04   15:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)

...Old Yeller ....

I never saw the movie.

DON'T SEE IT!!

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   15:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)

...Old Yeller ....

I never saw the movie.

Let me see if I got it right. It's about a cat that everyone loves, right? (heh heh)

Yeah, something like that. In the same way that Dr. Strangelove extols the virtues of the Military Industrial Complex and the sanity of our "leadership".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   15:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent, christine (#23) (Edited)

You did have to mention Old Yeller didn't you? Now, I've got a very unmanly tear running down. I loved that movie as a kid. Still do for that matter. Reminds me of my own boyhood friend, Rags, growing up. He was the bestest dog that ever lived.

My mom's first date was to see that movie.

Another tear jerker is Where the Red Fern Grows.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   15:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#0)

It's that darn double X chromosome........

However, despite this signigicant matter, my favorite movies are mob flicks. I especially loved Once Upon A Time in America. James Woods ends up in the trash truck all compacted. De Niro kicks butt!!

Mostly "action" flicks bore me to tears. Why do men want to watch them and make me cry? I don't know why men find them so enthralling. Most are just too cheesy to even bother with watching.

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   15:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#28)

Die Hard

Die Hard is GREAT. And funny!

Girls stay out of the boys' clubhouse!

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   15:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Turtle (#29)

Girls stay out of the boys' clubhouse!

Just play Die Hard and the girls will stay away. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   16:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas (#28)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : )

touché :)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

Nothing in the State, everything outside the State, everything against the State - Jan Lester, Escape From Leviathan

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Good order results spontaneously when things are let alone. - Zhuangzi

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-07-04   16:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#17)

The "Charlies Angels" pose on the bottom?

They should have hired you three.

.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   16:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#28)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

Good vs evil is a great plot. Timeless.

Independence Day was horrible though, imo. It was so bad it was funny. The president as a fighter pilot? Yeah. I don't know who it was that played him, but I can act better than he can.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   16:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: abraxas (#28)

"So, tell me why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard...?"

I would never watch that kind of thing and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Now, please tell me the answer to something I've wondered about all my life: why do women scream?

Big Meanie  posted on  2010-07-04   16:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas, Original_Intent, critter, turtle (#28)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

Many of the great action flicks have wonderful plots. Take Soldier, Kirt Russel movie, for instance. They tried to make a better soldier by taking away his humanity. It was only by finding his humanity again that he became a better soldier. The soldiers that follow blind orders were the weak ones. Do I hear Promise keepers anyone?

Then there is Demolition Man. PC gone awry. Really funny movie.

Die Hard, rugged individualism not only is stronger but will win in the end. Independence Day, besides being a cheer leader for Americanism, it also had a individualist theme.

As for Rambo, well it fits today more than ever. The police tried to deny him the freedoms he fought for. They drew "first blood". He took em down.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   16:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA (#33)

Independence Day was horrible though,

The world saved by a Jew and a Negro. Yeah. right. Both are busy trying to destroy it.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   16:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PSUSA, abraxas, movie viewers, 4 (#33)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

Mrs.L likes all the Die Hard movies, Witness, and anything with massive destruction, airplane hijacking, cruise ships sinking - that sort of stuff.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   16:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: PSUSA (#33)

Independence Day was horrible though, imo. It was so bad it was funny. The president as a fighter pilot? Yeah. I don't know who it was that played him, but I can act better than he can.

I really thought the interaction between Jeff Goldblum's character and Judd Hirsch's character made the movie.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   16:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PSUSA (#33)

Yeah. I don't know who it was that played him, but I can act better than he can.

lol.....that one was a dud.

I enjoyed the Matrix, more sci-fi than action, despite Keanu Reeves impaired acting abilities. It's amazing that the movie could hold up despite that massive flaw, but it did.

Die Hard, Independence Day and Rambo do no justice to good vs evil plot. Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, the Dark Knight are far superior in working with this plot, IMHO. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   16:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Turtle (#36)

The world saved by a Jew and a Negro. Yeah. right. Both are busy trying to destroy it.

If that is what you got out of the movie then you missed it.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   16:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Turtle (#36)

The world saved by a Jew and a Negro. Yeah. right. Both are busy trying to destroy it.

True. I never thought of it in those terms, but you're right.

I just thought the acting sucked.


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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   16:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#37)

I forgot The Fugitive film.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   16:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Lod (#42) (Edited)

I forgot The Fugitive film.

both of those were good

What about Fifth element?


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   16:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Lod (#37)

airplane hijacking, cruise ships sinking - that sort of stuff.

Did she like Snakes on a Plane?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: farmfriend (#40)

If that is what you got out of the movie then you missed it.

A quote from the movie:

"I'm not Jewish."

"Nobody's perfect."

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-04   17:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: farmfriend, abraxas, 4 (#43)

I don't know.

I've never even heard of them, but that means nothing.

This afternoon she was watching Stephen King's Misery on the tube...that bitch was one sick, sick, puppy.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   17:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Big Meanie (#34)

Now, please tell me the answer to something I've wondered about all my life: why do women scream?

There are evolutionary benefits to screaming. In primal times, a woman's scream would bring the hunter/warrior men back into the camp to defend the tribal dwellings. It's a biological rally cry. Screams can be both sexual and social and monkeys continue to scream for both reasons.

Now, please tell me why men do not intuitively understand the primal nature of a woman's scream? : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Lod (#46)

Fifth Element


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   17:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Lod (#46)

Oh, that's the one with Kathy Bates......she kicked butt on acting in that one.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Turtle (#45)

Humor. I thought it was funny.


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#51. To: abraxas (#39)

That is why Star Wars is such a classic, even now. Not sure about the other ones, because I haven't seen them. I'm not real big on going to the movies. But you're probably right. Rambo was more of a gut-level reluctant revenge tale that men like, Die Hard was almost as silly as Ind. Day. Don't people know that real high explosives don't produce great big fireballs, and that magazines need to be changed once in a while?

I like the mob movies, especially with Joe Pesci (sp?). He plays a great psychopath in both Casino and Goodfellas and I enjoy his ultimate demise in both. He even looks like Tony Spilotro, the real mobster portrayed in Casino. Those roles were perfect casting.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   17:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: abraxas (#49)

I believe that she got an Oscar for that unbelievably sick performance.

Trying to enjoy a sandwich during the fight scene where she got beaned with the typewriter, shot the dude in the shoulder, and then they were rolling around on the floor with him trying to gouge out her eyes...great goodness, I had to leave the room so I didn't lose my lunch.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   17:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: farmfriend (#27)

My mom's first date was to see that movie.

I was barely out of diapers when it came out. LOL!

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: PSUSA (#51)

Don't people know that real high explosives don't produce great big fireballs, and that magazines need to be changed once in a while?

What? Are you saying that there's no such thing as an endless magazine? : )

I like Pesci too. He's a great gangster. Did you see 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag? That's one of those dark humor flicks and Joe was excellent. I recommend that one if you haven't seen it, I think you would like it.

Did you ever see Once Upon a Time in America? It's really long......four hours, but it's great. I loved GoodFellas too, Pesci, De Niro and Ray Liotta were fantastic. Some say, that was the best mob movie ever, but it's a tough call when OUTiA is in the mix and the Godfather. Al Paccino was great in that. I never tire of watching a good mob movie.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Lod (#52)

...great goodness, I had to leave the room so I didn't lose my lunch.

lol.......that was a sick battle. I wouldn't try eating during that scene. : )

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: PSUSA (#51)

Don't people know that real high explosives don't produce great big fireballs, and that magazines need to be changed once in a while?

They have special weapons in the movies that allow them to load on Sundays and shoot all week.

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#57. To: abraxas (#28) (Edited)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

It's a guy thing. Every real man wants, in his own mind and spirit, be able to do his duty, to stand in the face of overwhelming odds in defense of all that is good and right, and prevail. It is not even the accolades it's like the line in the old Western where the quiet Cowboy single handedly captures the Cattle Rustlers, wards off an Indian attack, collars the crooked Sheriff, and then shoots down four fingers of "Red Eye" without gasping. Then when confronted with being told by the pretty Cattle Baron heiress how wonderful he is, who has fallen madly in love with him, then wrings the brim of his hat, looks down and kicks the dust with the toe of his boot, looks up and bashfully and uncomfortably says: "Aw, shucks ma'am, twarn't nuthin'."

It's the same in reverse on "Chick Flicks". Why on earth would someone want to set through 2 boring schmaltzy hours of "Fried Green Tomatoes" or "Love Story". Yecccccccch!!!!!!!!

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Lod (#37)

Mrs.L likes all the Die Hard movies, Witness, and anything with massive destruction, airplane hijacking, cruise ships sinking - that sort of stuff.

Now, "Witness" was a good flick. I don't think Harrison Ford got the credit he deserved for that one. Of course any movie with Harrison Ford in it is a good movie. He's about the only male lead out there that echoes the great leading men of the past.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: abraxas, 4 (#55)

some idiot thought that scene funny - put down your sandwiches, my friends -

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   17:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: abraxas (#39)

Star Wars

Yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

I want a Lightsaber - a REAL one.

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#61. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#57)

Why on earth would someone want to set through 2 boring schmaltzy hours of "Fried Green Tomatoes" or "Love Story". Yecccccccch!!!!!!!!

Never have and never will though there are some great chick flix out there. First Wives Club was great! Chocolate also good. I even liked the updated version of Born Yesterday. Actually I think the updated version was better than the original.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   17:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#60)

Star Wars

Yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

I want a Lightsaber - a REAL one.

They're running a marathon today. I've been watching them all morning. They are on episode II right now.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   17:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Original_Intent (#57)

Now, I don't care who you are, male or female, we can all agree on The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as an excellent movie. I also liked the Magnificent Seven. Another one that was more about camrades and killin' bad guys than saving damsels in distress.

It's the genre of "drama" that turns guys off I think.......and that goes beyond the movie theatre. : )

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent, Lod (#58)

Of course any movie with Harrison Ford in it is a good movie.

Too true.

He's about the only male lead out there that echoes the great leading men of the past.

Clint is still holding his own. Great upcoming leading men would be Matt Damon and the guy, can't remember his name, that plays the Transporter.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   17:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: abraxas, Original_Intent, Lod (#63)

Now, I don't care who you are, male or female, we can all agree on The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as an excellent movie. I also liked the Magnificent Seven. Another one that was more about camrades and killin' bad guys than saving damsels in distress.

Dirty Dozen!


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   17:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#57)

How about Steel Magnolias?

You're correct about Ford.

Dude has a top-shelf body of work.

From Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and on, and on. He just doesn't make bad films.

(For some reason, Mrs.L says that he reminds her of me. I don't see it, but it's nice to hear.)

Off to do the family burnt food offerings' thing for our 234th, 4th.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   17:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: farmfriend (#61)

First Wives Club was genuinely witty though - it transcended the "Chick Flick" genre because of the humor and because that one woman's husband was such a bastard you wanted to see the prick get what he deserved. I think "Adam's Rib", and "Bringing Up Baby" were also quite good - the originals that is. And no movie with Bette Davis in it could ever be called strictly a "Chick Flick".

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: farmfriend, Original_Intent (#61)

I didn't mind Fried Green Tomatoes. I like the First Wives Club too. I loved My Girl and Stand by Me--great sound tracks too. Oh, and My Girl was a real tear jerker.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Lod (#66)

How about Steel Magnolias?

Haven't seen. I keep meaning to pick it up on VHS at the local GoodWill where I scrounge for movies.

Enjoy the offerings. "Grog like burned meat." "Ugh!"

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: farmfriend (#65)

Oh, how could I forget the Dirty Dozen......I loved that one. Did you see the Unforgiven? That was great too.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   17:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: farmfriend (#64)

Clint is still holding his own

Gran Torino was great!!

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#72. To: Lod (#66)

Off to do the family burnt food offerings' thing for our 234th, 4th.

Dayum, Lod, I knew you were old but I didn't know you were that old! LOL! Sorry, couldn't resist. Hope you have had a great day and that your grillin' comes out good (and I suspect it will).

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#73. To: farmfriend, abraxas, Lod (#65)

Now, I don't care who you are, male or female, we can all agree on The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as an excellent movie. I also liked the Magnificent Seven. Another one that was more about camrades and killin' bad guys than saving damsels in distress.

Dirty Dozen!

I think "The Magnificent Seven" is one of my all time favorites. I presume you are all aware that it was a remake of the classic Japanese tale "The Seven Samurai"? Kurosawa did it ages ago and it is well worth renting and watching even now.

"The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" for all its defects is a stirring movie.

Of course we can't leave out Dirty, "Go ahead and make my day.", Harry.

Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   17:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#70)

Oh, how could I forget the Dirty Dozen......I loved that one. Did you see the Unforgiven? That was great too.

Better, and based on a true story, was "The Devil's Brigade" with William Holden.

The one I would like to see made was another true incident. A Marine Combat Brigade was landed at the wrong spot on one of the Island campaigns, Saipan I think, during WWII. It was one of those miraculous accidents, because they were landed in the path of an approaching Japanese Armored Division, out manned, and out gunned they used the tight terrain to defeat a force 4 times their size.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: abraxas (#70)

Did you see the Unforgiven? That was great too.

Yes but I am a Clint fan!


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#76. To: abraxas (#71)

Gran Torino was great!!

Amen!


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Original_Intent (#73)

Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.

That was one of Mel's best, IMHO.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: farmfriend (#62)

Star Wars

Yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

I want a Lightsaber - a REAL one.

They're running a marathon today. I've been watching them all morning. They are on episode II right now.

I have all but one of them - the second to last - and have watched most of them 2 to 4 times.

I also have all the Star Trek movies, but they are not as good. Although the second one "The Wrath of Khan" was good, and "Star Trek 'Generations'" was not bad although I was sorry to see them kill of Captain Kirk at the end.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, Lod (#73)

I think "The Magnificent Seven" is one of my all time favorites. I presume you are all aware that it was a remake of the classic Japanese tale "The Seven Samurai"? Kurosawa did it ages ago and it is well worth renting and watching even now.

Which reminds me there was a good western that had a Samurai in it. Can't remember the name. Course I even liked the Last Samurai with what's his name.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, Lod (#73)

Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.

Similar in theme to Gladiator really.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent (#74)

You thought "The Devil's Brigade" was better than Unforgiven or the Dirty Dozen? Or both?

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: abraxas (#77)

Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.

That was one of Mel's best, IMHO.

Agreed. Just thought of another good one - "Once We Were Soldiers". It doesn't sugar coat the realities of war.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#78)

I also have all the Star Trek movies, but they are not as good. Although the second one "The Wrath of Khan" was good, and "Star Trek 'Generations'" was not bad although I was sorry to see them kill of Captain Kirk at the end.

The best one was really the fourth one with the whales and I did like the last one despite the changes they made. The only one to really get the characters right. First Contact was the best one with Next Generation but really those are poor imitations.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#82)

Agreed. Just thought of another good one - "Once We Were Soldiers". It doesn't sugar coat the realities of war.

Full metal jacket!


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#74)

It was one of those miraculous accidents, because they were landed in the path of an approaching Japanese Armored Division, out manned, and out gunned they used the tight terrain to defeat a force 4 times their size.

300


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: farmfriend (#80)

I didn't see that one.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: abraxas (#81)

You thought "The Devil's Brigade" was better than Unforgiven or the Dirty Dozen? Or both?

I haven't seen "The Unforgiven" but yes I thought it was better than "The Dirty Dozen". Although I am a big Clint Walker fan (played "Posy"). Mainly because it was based on a true story and the chemistry of the actors was more realistic.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: abraxas, Original_Intent (#86)

I didn't see that one.

Phoenix does a really good job in that movie. His best was Walk the Line though where he played Cash.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: farmfriend (#84)

Agreed. Just thought of another good one - "Once We Were Soldiers". It doesn't sugar coat the realities of war.

Full metal jacket!

FMJ was good, but if anything it exaggerated the nastiness. For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now". I knew a guy who served on the River Boats - twice he came back the only many alive.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Original_Intent (#87)

I haven't seen "The Unforgiven" but yes I thought it was better than "The Dirty Dozen".

Unforgiven is classic Clint. Basically they piss him off and he kills them all.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#89)

For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now".

That may have been the one I'm thinking off.

I knew a guy who served on the River Boats - twice he came back the only many alive.

I knew one as well. Worked out at the base with my husband and was roommate to a friend of ours. He had re-upped 5 times. He was there for the drugs.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#89)

Worst Nam movie was Good Morning Vietnam.

I liked Saving Private Ryan.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Original_Intent (#87)

Although I am a big Clint Walker fan (played "Posy"). Mainly because it was based on a true story and the chemistry of the actors was more realistic.

It wasn't just Clint that made the Dirty Dozen so great....it was Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Telly Savales too. The cast included many WWII vets.

Lee Marvin is hard to beat in Dirty Dozen. : ) But, alas, I'll give the "Devil's Brigrade" a try.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: farmfriend (#80)

Despite the sad ending "Braveheart" was a great movie.

Similar in theme to Gladiator really.

I think I would go vice versa on that as William Wallace really did live and the story of the movie was based on real life characters and events.

I liked the final closing scene because I knew the history. The call by Robert The Brus to fight for him as they had for Wallace was at the "Battle of Bannockburn" where the Scots stood against a much superior English force. Through sheer grit and fighting spirit, with the assistance of a cavalry charge of armored Knight's Templar at the end of long hours of hand to hand fighting, carried the day. Scotland remained free for more than two centuries after the rout of the English.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#89) (Edited)

For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now".

Me too.

Don't forget the Deer Hunter, I might have to put that even a hair ahead of Apocalypse now in the surrealism department.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: farmfriend (#92)

Worst Nam movie was Good Morning Vietnam.

I liked Saving Private Ryan.

Although "Good Morning Vietnam" was based on a true story I found the movie too chaotic to be enjoyable. It did not have tight enough control on telling the story.

I haven't seen "Saving Private Ryan" simply because the WWII Vets, of which I am aware, were hit so hard by its realism that it made me shy away.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent (#96)

I haven't seen "Saving Private Ryan" simply because the WWII Vets, of which I am aware, were hit so hard by its realism that it made me shy away.

It was up there with Apollo 13.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: farmfriend (#90)

I haven't seen "The Unforgiven" but yes I thought it was better than "The Dirty Dozen".

Unforgiven is classic Clint. Basically they piss him off and he kills them all.

I liked "Heartbreak Ridge" - even though the thing on Granada really wasn't a war. Every enlisted man has met an Officer like the prick in that movie. It was just satisfying to see him "get his".

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Original_Intent (#98)

I saw it but I don't remember it. How about Outlaw Jose Wales?


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   18:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#95)

For surrealism I'd go with "Apocalypse Now".

Me too.

Don't forget the Deer Hunter, I might have to put that even a hair ahead of Apocalypse now in the surrealism department.

It ties in with FF's comment on her PBR riding friend - so many succumbed to drugs to evade the daily horrors.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: abraxas (#93)

Lee Marvin is hard to beat in Dirty Dozen. : ) But, alas, I'll give the "Devil's Brigrade" a try.

Not as much gut wrenching action, but a good story. All the better because it is true. And I have to agree on Lee Marvin. I also liked him in "Donovan's Reef" with John Wayne.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Original_Intent (#101)

Did you see the Usual Suspects? That was one of my favorites too...great acting, great lines, great story that isn't obvious. No love story in that one. : )

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: farmfriend (#99)

I saw it but I don't remember it. How about Outlaw Jose Wales?

And I haven't seen that. :-)

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: abraxas (#102)

Did you see the Usual Suspects? That was one of my favorites too...great acting, great lines, great story that isn't obvious. No love story in that one. : )

Alas, no I have not seen it. I have seen all of the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett as Holmes. I did not know he was in "My Fair Lady" until I picked up the restored reissue of the movie. Which, while I generally don't care for musicals, is one of my all time favorite movies.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Original_Intent (#104) (Edited)

Ah, if you like Sherlock Holmes, you will love the Usual Suspects.

Kevin Spacey is so good, along with Benito Del Toro. I know you will love this one. You have to think about what's going on and the ending is a complete surprise, it doesn't get much better than that duo. : )

Oh, and bonus, it has the surreal feel to it, if you don't mind that sort of violence, twisted with five crooks to try to figure out.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: abraxas (#105)

Another good one, if you have not seen it, is "Murder By Decree" which pits Sherlock Holmes vs. Jack The Ripper and a Masonic cabal protecting the Ripper. Christopher Plummer plays Holmes.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   18:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Original_Intent (#106)

I haven't seen that one.......but, it sounds intriguing.

Did you ever see the Spanish Prisoner with Steve Martin? That's a good one too. If you like dark humor, you can't hardly beat 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag with Joe Pesci.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   18:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: farmfriend (#91)

He was there for the drugs.

If I remember correctly, that is what Nancy Reagan said she was in Atlanta for.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-04   19:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: abraxas (#107) (Edited)

Did you ever see the Spanish Prisoner with Steve Martin? That's a good one too. If you like dark humor, you can't hardly beat 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag with Joe Pesci.

Have not seen either, but the "8 Heads in a Duffle Bag" sounds darkly humorous just from the title. I am NOT a Steve Martin fan. He has always rubbed me the wrong way, I don't find him either funny or entertaining. About the closest is the dark comedy "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" with Michael Caine. However, I am biased in that I like Michael Caine who also did another one of my favorite movies "Educating Rita".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   19:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Original_Intent (#109)

I am NOT a Steve Martin fan. He has always rubbed me the wrong way, I don't find either funny or entertaining.

He plays a serious role in the Spanish Prisoner and does a really good job. It's another one of those stories that you have to follow, then are surprised by the ending.

I did like him in The Jerk.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   19:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: abraxas (#110)

Thinking of another out of character comedian in a serious role - Bill Murray in the screen adaptation of Wm. Somerset Maughm's "The Razor's Edge". Simply stunning and if you have not seen it I would recommend it as a "must" see.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   19:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Original_Intent (#111)

I haven't seen that one either. I hated that movie Lost in Translation that he did. But, I loved Kingpin.....that one had some really funny scenes.

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   19:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: abraxas (#112)

I haven't seen that one either. I hated that movie Lost in Translation that he did. But, I loved Kingpin.....that one had some really funny scenes.

I think "The Razor's Edge" is probably the best work he has ever done. It is also the one he has said in interviews of which he is most proud. It truly is a GREAT Movie, and one that I think will stand the test of time.

I find it sad that the original "Saturday Night Live" crew has generally not reached those heights again. Although Jane Curtain, I don't think, cares to. She is perfectly happy on her ranch in Southern Oregon. She'll come out and do something every once in a while just to keep her hand in, but I don't think the Hollywood life is her "cup of tea". Good for her.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-04   19:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: abraxas (#54) (Edited)

OUTiA is in the mix and the Godfather. Al Paccino was great in that.

Yeah he was.

He had that "dead fish eyes, you are a walking dead man" look down perfectly. I've actually seen a man like that. The real thing is a little spooky.

But Godfather 3 should have been thrown in the trash. That was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I don't blame Pacino for that. They just didn't know to stop while they were ahead.

Did you see 8 Heads in a Duffle Bag?

Never heard of it. But if I catch it at the video store I'll get it.

What? Are you saying that there's no such thing as an endless magazine? : )

Recoil is another thing they forget about. LOL! You'd think they could at least fake it. It's what they are paid to do, after all.

I guess I'm being too picky. I actually noticed it when they used T38s (US trainers) in Top Gun (another silly movie) as the ones flown by the Bad Guys, and other shortcuts they use.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-07-04   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: PSUSA, abraxas, Original_Intent (#114) (Edited)

Recoil is another thing they forget about. LOL! You'd think they could at least fake it. It's what they are paid to do, after all.

They used recoil in Men in Black. The chirping cricket or noisy cricket has quite a kick.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   20:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: farmfriend, movie fans, critics, and panners (#75)

How about Play Misty for Me ?

The Outlaw Josey Wales ?

The TV show Rawhide ?

Big, big, ups to Clint.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   20:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: All (#116)

How could I have forgotten Space Cowboys, with some of our favs of all time?

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   20:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Lod (#117)

How could I have forgotten Space Cowboys, with some of our favs of all time?

How was your sacrifice BBQ?


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
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farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-04   20:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: farmfriend (#118)

The steers did not die in vain.

Ground sirloin burgers were yummy.

Thanks for asking.

(I may pop a Roll-Aids or two.)

Lod  posted on  2010-07-04   20:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, wudidiz, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#28)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

Men relate to the Spec Ops Community, where the prevailing philosophy is, "There are very few human problems that can't be solved with a sufficient charge of high explosives".

IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-04   23:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)

IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....

lol.....my mom sent me packing on so many guilt trips that she wore that one out for me. : )

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-04   23:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: abraxas (#121)

IF wimmen ruled the world they wouldn't make bombs that killed anybody. They'd just drop bombs that make you feel real bad for a while....

lol.....my mom sent me packing on so many guilt trips that she wore that one out for me. : )

Some fathers do that, too.

I mean, I try not to use guilt manipulation when my child wears hair ribbons at inappropriate times, but frankly, I'm worried about my son....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-05   0:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: HOUNDDAWG, abraxas, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, buckeroo, christine, Jethro_Tull, SonOfLiberty (#120)

"There are very few human problems that can't be solved with a sufficient charge of high explosives".

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wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-05   3:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: wudidiz, christine, abraxas, farmfriend (#123)

Blowed Up Real Good

Farm Film Report

Funny!

I particularly liked the Helen Reddy explosion.

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'cause you've heard it all before

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-07-05   3:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, abraxas, farmfriend (#124)

I am a strong... I am invincible... I am KABOOM!!!

lol


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-05   3:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: christine (#17)


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-06   1:49:46 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: wudidiz (#126)

thank you. much better. ;)

i agree with Rose Kennedy, btw.

christine  posted on  2010-07-06   1:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: abraxas (#28)

So, tell my why men voluntarily watch crap like Rambo, Independence Day and Die Hard..........uuuhhhhgggg. : ) Where's the plot?

There are plots there. Quite primal plots really, ones you can find throughout history, even back to (but not exclusive to) Beowulf.

There are only, I believe, 7 or 8 distinct *basic* plots you can write (you can write, fwiw, themes/variations on the basics which also are viewed as plots of course). The films you note, fall neatly into some of those categories (I had to google the exact terminology, been a while since I've had to officially recall them).

1. man vs. nature
2. man vs. man
3. man vs. the environment
4. man vs. machines/technology
5. man vs. the supernatural
6. man vs. self
7. man vs. god/religion

Rambo - man vs. man

Independence Day - man vs. machines/technology (or supernatural, depending on how you categorize aliens, but to me, aliens just mean "higher tech" in this context)

Die Hard - man vs. man (men)

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SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-06   8:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: SonOfLiberty (#128)

lol.....I think the plot got lost in my musings over the endless magazine and gratuitous explosions in those movies. : )

You can't speak of those films in relation to Beowulf.....derb nub it!! Respect my authoriton, SOL. hehehehe

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abraxas  posted on  2010-07-06   12:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: abraxas (#129)

:)

Beowulf was the first action hero, hands down. His story was the Anglo-Saxon equivalent of The Terminator. It's a great story, clearly (I've been attempting to read through the actual Anglo-Saxon original, in the original Old English, which is essentially a germanic language that is far removed from what we speak today). But if you get down to it, he's a really strong, fast, athletic warrior who rides around in viking ships with other armed men, looking for fights to pick in order to bring back treasure and glory, and a fair dose of bragging in between all the hubabbalo of fighting monsters and dragons. Gotta love that.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-06   13:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: SonOfLiberty (#130)

Yep, Beowulf was the firstr. I can't think of anyone before him.

Man vs. Monster!

All any good action film needs is Blood, Beasts and Breasts.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-06   13:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Turtle (#131)

Without question. Mythologies that predate the Beowulf story feature gods and men relating to gods. While there was plenty of bloodshed, etc., it was all in relation to mysticism and gods. Beowulf was the man on the move, the self made warrior who earned his honor and fame from humble roots via great deeds. He was the first true hero, because he set down the things a man needed to do to gain honor at the time; seek glory, never back down from a fight, take the battle to the enemy, drink heavily afterward, hit on hot women who serve you mead, and get yourself proclaimed a king through your reputation alone. These are things any random Olaf or Sven could relate to and emulate. True meritocracy in action.

"The more artificial taboos and restrictions there are in the world, the more the people are impoverished.... The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be." - Lao Tzu, 6th century BC

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2010-07-06   13:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Turtle, All (#13)

From Sleepless In Seattle:

Sam Baldwin: Well I'm not looking for a mail-order bride! I just want somebody I can have a decent conversation with over dinner. Without it falling down into weepy tears over some movie!
Greg: She's, as you just saw, very emotional.
Sam Baldwin: Although I cried at the end of "the Dirty Dozen."
Greg: Who didn't?
Sam Baldwin: Jim Brown was throwing these hand grenades down these airshafts. And Richard Jaeckel and Lee Marvin...[Begins to cry]
Sam Baldwin: ...were sitting on top of this armored personnel carrier, dressed up like Nazis...
Greg: [Crying too] Stop, stop!
Sam Baldwin: And Trini Lopez...
Greg: Yes, Trini Lopez!
Sam Baldwin: He busted his neck while they were parachuting down behind the Nazi lines...
Greg: Stop.
Sam Baldwin: And Richard Jaeckel - at the beginning he had on this shiny helmet...
Greg: [Crying harder] Please no more. Oh God! I loved that movie.

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