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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 16296
Comments: 362

Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true.

"Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race.

The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.


Poster Comment:

I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile...

I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.

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#282. To: wudidiz (#275)

Tell a friend if the little dudes in the toilet bowl start talkin to you.

Thanks for the cathartic encouragement. I dumped, Original_Intent's consistent whining weeks ago.

I feel just fine, now.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   21:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: James Deffenbach (#277)

his [Al Gore] idiotic theory

You are not well read. All the slum lord did was use a method that was popular to excite the rabble-rousers making him a Billionaire.

Please calm down. The politicians want you to believe in them. I don't ... and why should you?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   21:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: buckeroo (#283)

You are not well read.

How closely are you and Badeye related? He was always saying that same $#it. Only he said, "Your not well read." Maybe since he is your family and all you can explain the difference between your and you're to him. At least give it a shot.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-08   21:25:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: AGAviator (#280)

AMA Flight 77

One of my best friends, Barbara Olson was on that flight. Some of these lamers think that we forget about friends and loved ones.

But, the conspiracy goes on.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   21:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: James Deffenbach (#284)

"Your not well read." -- Bad_Eye

I am bit more closely related to substantial English grammar in both written and spoken capability. Sorry for the confusion but it was a twit or a dolt that used that expression as you point out.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   21:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: buckeroo (#285)

One of my best friends, Barbara Olson was on that flight. Some of these lamers think that we forget about friends and loved ones.

Yes, there were bodies when they could find them.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-08   21:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: AGAviator (#287) (Edited)

No rational person[edit:al] questions the reasons for this type of madness as a mere "conspiracy." What happened (in a nutshell) is US foreign policy created what is popularly termed as "backdraft."

American foreign intervention around the world must be changed to ensure our own sanctity while living peaceably (if possible) with others.

As a nation, we have made enemies mingling in their own affairs while the actual reasons were for ensuring continuous oil supplies here in America and other allied nations.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-08   21:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle (#281)

Your photo spread is visual disinformation.

Your photo of a cutting torch shows it cutting a straight line in a steel block. It does not show it cutting the beam in the photo above. Also note that it leaves very little slag as opposed to the cut beam where we can see that a very significant amount of slag at the point the beam was severed.

Your photo of a burning pool of, presumably, thermite is also misleading for a couple of reasons:

A. Thermite for cutting operations is produced as a cord which you can then wrap around that which you want to cut.

B. Nano-thermite has some distinctly different characteristics:

It burns hotter than standard thermite.

And since it is a micro-fine powder in can be placed in a film, a medium and literally painted on, or into an extruded high energy/high temperature cutting cord.

Additionally because its performance, unlike conventional explosives, can be tuned it can perform as an explosive as well as a high energy heat source. More simply - it releases much more energy per unit of time than standard thermite.

Your photograph of one of the alleged hijackers proves nothing as we both know it was taken at a different airport than any of the flights of 911 originated from. Oh, and please show us where his name is on any of the Passenger Manifests. Of course we both know it is not there and so you cannot produce that which does not exist.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-08   23:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#289)

Your photo of a cutting torch shows it cutting a straight line in a steel block. It does not show it cutting the beam in the photo above.

The angular cut cited as evidence of a conspiracy is a straight line on a steel structural member. Whether the item being cut is a steel structural member or a steel block, or it's a 45 degree angle or a vertical angle, is quite beside the point. Both cuts are straight with little dribblings of slag on their edges.

Furthermore the publisher of the steel block cutting saw the entire photograph collection of the only photographer allowed into the WTC center collapse post- crash. The photographer and the debunker confirm there were no angular or straight line cuts until the cleanup crews began their work. Then the cleanup crews used cutting torches, which is where the CT photo comes from.

The cutting torch is shown in several different photos I posted making exactly the same types of cuts as the angular cut. Rotating the cut 45 degrees changes nothing.

Also note that it leaves very little slag as opposed to the cut bea

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   0:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle (#289) (Edited)

Your photo of a cutting torch shows it cutting a straight line in a steel block. It does not show it cutting the beam in the photo above.

The angular cut cited as evidence of a conspiracy is a straight line on a steel structural member.

Whether the item being cut is a steel structural member or a steel block, or it's a 45 degree angle or a vertical angle, is quite beside the point. Both cuts are straight with little dribblings of slag on their edges.

Furthermore the publisher of the steel block cutting saw the entire photograph collection of the only photographer allowed into the WTC center collapse post- crash. The photographer and the debunker confirm there were no angular or straight line cuts until the cleanup crews began their work. Then the cleanup crews used cutting torches, which is where the CT photo comes from.

The cutting torch is shown in several different photos I posted making exactly the same types of cuts as the angular cut. Rotating the cut 45 degrees changes nothing.

Also note that it leaves very little slag as opposed to the cut beam where we can see that a very significant amount of slag at the point the beam was severed.

Thermite producing molten iron which flows freely according to gravity leaves 10 times more slag than any cut. There is no such slag residue from any thermite in the CT angular cut photo.

Your photo of a burning pool of, presumably, thermite is also misleading for a couple of reasons:

A. Thermite for cutting operations is produced as a cord which you can then wrap around that which you want to cut.

Thermite can't be packed vertically to make vertical cuts. Again. Once thermite starts burning molten iron is produced which flows according to gravity, not how it was packed.

You have no pictures of thermite making vertical cuts, because it can't be done so there can't be any pictures.

B. Nano-thermite has some distinctly different characteristics:

It burns hotter than standard thermite.

Wrong.

And since it is a micro-fine powder in can be placed in a film, a medium and literally painted on, or into an extruded high energy/high temperature cutting cord.

Additionally because its performance, unlike conventional explosives, can be tuned it can perform as an explosive as well as a high energy heat source.

All your alleged information is fromo one thoroughly discredited source: Niels Harritt.

Harritt himself cannot say anything about how "nano themite" is made or what its specific properties are. In a TV interview he defers all discussion to the US government. However the US government does not claim anything about "nano- themiite" other than they are working on it. It has not had anything published, its information is not classified, and there are no identified items which use it.

Furthermore, Harritt got his initial start in his "911 research" by looking at a highly edited and manipulated CT disc his girlfriend/wife put into the CD player. Yeah, that's some reseacher all right.

More simply - it releases much more energy per unit of time than standard thermite.
Wrong.

Your photograph of one of the alleged hijackers proves nothing as we both know it was taken at a different airport than any of the flights of 911 originated from. Oh, and please show us where his name is on any of the Passenger Manifests. Of course we both know it is not there and so you cannot produce that which does not exist.

Atta used several different names and had several different passports. He also reported his original passport lost so he could get a new one not showing his travels. On September 11 he transfered from Portland Maine Airport to the New York Flight 11.

Two separate flight attendants described the hijackers, gave seat numbers, and some names in recorded phone calls. Minutiae about paperwork pales in comparison to eyewitness recorded testimony as the events were happening real time.

Hijackers in the September 11 Attacks

Two flight attendants called the American Airlines reservation desk during the hijacking.

Betty Ong reported that "the four hijackers had come from first- class seats: 2A, 2B, 9A, and 9B."[5]

Flight attendant Amy Sweeney called a flight services manager at Logan Airport in Boston and described them as Middle Eastern.[5] She gave the staff the seat numbers and they pulled up the ticket and credit card info of the hijackers, identifying Mohamed Atta al-Sayed.[6]

Mohamed Atta was heard speaking over the air traffic control system, broadcasting messages he intended for the passengers.[7]

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   0:38:25 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#291)

Both cuts are straight with little dribblings of slag on their edges.

None are so blind s those who will not see.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-09   1:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: AGAviator (#280)

wow I bet you would trade a cow for magic beans too. riddle me this oh keeper of all official conspiracy theory knowledge; why was the initial report that a truck bomb had gone off at the pentagon, and were you beachloser in another life?


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-09   1:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: farmfriend (#292)

None are so blind s those who will not see.

Yup, here's a prime example of the CT'ers making an assertion that nano- thermite is hotter than real thermite.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   1:32:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: IRTorqued, buckeroo, turtle, PSUSA, RickyJ (#293) (Edited)

riddle me this oh keeper of all official conspiracy theory knowledge; why was the initial report that a truck bomb had gone off at the pentagon

The only place such report existed was on an internet k00ksite.

Hers is a partial list of passengers on Flight 77, reported by USA Today.

None of them was ever seen by their families after the aircraft took off. Many of them got funeral remains during and after the investigation.

What happened to them if Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon as stated.

USA Today: American Flight 77 Victims at a Glance

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   1:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: AGAviator, X-15, farmfriend, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle (#291)

All your alleged information is fromo one thoroughly discredited source: Niels Harritt.

Wrong again Buzzard Breath. As now seems par for the course you attempt to twist other people's positions into a strawman and then attack the strawman. Did I refer to Niels Haritt in my post? Well?

I drew on several papers none of which were written by Niels Haritt although I might also reasonably point out the science is not refuted by ad hominem attacks. If the journal that published it is questionable that does not prove the data false it proves the journal questionable.

Combustion characteristics of A1 nanoparticles and nanocomposite A1+MoO3 thermites

Tunability of Nanoenergetic Materials (pdf 228k)

Initiator Project Description (pdf 62k)

Interestingly NIST has some of the top people in the nano-thermite field and yet they are mum on the subject. Although a lot of the work they have done is for military research and is classified, but they could address the basic question as to the presence of aluminothermic Super Thermite (which is the other name used for it) but they have not and very likely will not, because to do so and maintain the NIST stonewall they would have to lie, and lies would be provably false. Most interesting.

And again you use misleading graphics to misrepresent what can be done with the technology. High energy aluminothermic compounds as used in a very small scale petri dish compared against a flaming pile is a dishonest comparison. This is the logical fallacy known as the false or Weak Analogy. One of the most interesting properties of nano-thermites is their tunability i.e., it can be made with any metal oxide and different results can be achieved - from simple heating on a michrochip to use as a component in a solid state detonator, to creating a high energy explosive. Although in your case I suspect the misrepresentation is no mistake and purely intentional. At this point you are simply clutching at straws launching ad hominem attacks against a strawman source I have not used nor referred to except in one secondary reference many many posts back in the thread.

As for the sulfur issue - all in context. Removing an individual datum from its context allows for a wonderful way to take one datum in isolation. By stripping away the relevant contextual and associated data it allows for a multiplicity of mischiefs and the presentation of a false conclusion. So, the drywall had sulfur in it. Did it have microspheres of iron/steel, which are only created at high temperatures, too? Did the drywall also have nano particles of FeO3 as part of its make-up? That also was also found, in context, with the sulfur and the high temperature microspheres?

I think it nicely underscores the strength of your vacuous counter that you have to resort to Strawman Arguments, Argumentum Ad Hominem, Guilt by Association, and Red Herrings to try to counter an evidence based argument.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   2:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: AGAviator (#295)

The government is your friend, they never lie, believe me not your gut instincts

All is well, obama is your enlightened master

Obey, Obey, Obey!

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-09   2:45:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, buckeroo, turdle (#296)

I drew on several papers none of which were written by Niels Haritt although I might also reasonably point out the science is not refuted by ad hominem attacks. If the journal that published it is questionable that does not prove the data false it proves the journal questionable.

Example would be the Enquirer's publication of the blue dress info. I question the Enquirer as a publication but the information about the blue dress was correct.

Gotta love how Men in Black used that.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-09   2:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Flintlock (#297)

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

Wouldn't surprise me. He is not the only one either.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-09   2:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: AGAviator, IRTorqued, RickyJ (#295)

None of them was ever seen by their families after the aircraft took off. Many of them got funeral remains during and after the investigation.

What happened to them if Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon as stated.

Just a wild stab. You don't think a group of sociopathic criminals who set up a PsyOp killing nearly 3,000 people to launch wars killing millions of people would actually whack the passengers as part of the PsyOp do you?

Some peoples kids.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   2:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Original_Intent (#300)

The nerve.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   2:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: farmfriend (#298)

I drew on several papers none of which were written by Niels Haritt although I might also reasonably point out the science is not refuted by ad hominem attacks. If the journal that published it is questionable that does not prove the data false it proves the journal questionable.

Example would be the Enquirer's publication of the blue dress info. I question the Enquirer as a publication but the information about the blue dress was correct.

Gotta love how Men in Black used that.

I gotta watch that again. The only time I saw it I was before I stopped watching TV and I missed part of it because I didn't know it was on.

I avoided it in theaters because I expected it was a PsyOp movie. It was, but it was still funny.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   2:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Original_Intent (#300)

Hey, you got 3 hunnert.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: wudidiz (#301)

Hee, hee.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: wudidiz (#303)

Yeah, I saw that after the fact. Serendipity. When you're hot you're hot. :-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Original_Intent, christine (#304)

#303

3:00:03

Something about the numbers....


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: farmfriend (#299)

He is not the only one either.

bet on it

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-09   3:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: wudidiz (#306)

#303

3:00:03

Something about the numbers....

I think Sting got it right: "We are Spirits in the Material World".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Original_Intent (#308)

"We are Spirits in the Material World"...

...and "Synchronicity".


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: wudidiz (#309)

Yes, and that is what the NWO crowd is fighting against. They're swimming upstream now as things begin to align against them, and soon they'll be like cockroaches in a jar.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Original_Intent (#310)

No amount of riches or lies or bombs will keep the Spirit from visiting them in their dreams.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: AGAviator (#280)

Flight 77 did clip a number of light poles on its way in. The engines and the airplane didn't dig big holes into the ground because the wingfs and fuselage were partially shielded by ground effect. When they did hit things, the hits were shearing impacts which glanced off the objects and allowed the plane to continue moving forward.

The FDR data contradicts the official fairy tale which you are parroting.


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
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Critter  posted on  2010-07-09   6:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle. (#296) (Edited)

All your alleged information is from one thoroughly discredited source: Niels Harritt.

Wrong again Buzzard Breath. As now seems par for the course you attempt to twist other people's positions into a strawman and then attack the strawman. Did I refer to Niels Haritt in my post? Well?

Yoo hoo, fuckwit.

Open Chemical Physics Journal, Volume 2: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe pp.7-31 (25) Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Niels H. Harrit just happens to be the lead person on your only so called "peer reviewed publication" (a lie, it's a actually a pay to print publication) that's ever been published anywhere.

As such he is the leader of the k00kcrowd pushing the thermite angle. So Harritt's own research motives, and processes, and his qualifications in the field are very open to questioning. He started the whole $hitpile of crappy "research" that everybody else is running around parroting.

But instead of acknowledging that Harrit is the ring leader of the particular CT talking point, you say "Boo hoo, I never quoted Harritt you big meanie," and start your usual word salad alleging how poor little you is being victimized by false arguments which are actually right on point arguments you can't refute and therefore wish to dismiss with your usual "poor me, poor CT's" shtick.

Your next "source," "Combustion characteristics of A1 nanoparticles and nanocomposite A1+MoO3 thermites" happens to say on its lead page

Submitted to the Graduate Faculty of Texas Tech University in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

So now somebody writing a glorified term paper, who doesn't even have PhD, trying to get a PhD, is your backup for debunked Kook in Chief Niels Harrit.

Heeeeeeyyyyy. Wait a minute. I thought all the PhD's who say that Harritt is full of $hit are eebil gubmint sell outs and false scientists.

So why are you quoting a glorified term paper of somebody trying to join their ranks?

LOLOL.

Although a lot of the work they have done is for military research and is classified, but they could address the basic question as to the presence of aluminothermic Super Thermite (which is the other name used for it) but they have not and very likely will not, because to do so and maintain the NIST stonewall they would have to lie, and lies would be provably false.

Finally, the Harrit debunking link I posted, which you never bothered to watch in your haste to claim victim status, explicitly states Harrit's research is not only defective in its hasty conculsions about how sulfur and iron are present be found, it is equally defective in not explaining the absensce of "thermate ingredients" aluminum oxide 41% and barium nitrate 29%. Cited at 2:10 in the "Niels Harrit Debunked" video above.

There is zero evidence Harrit supplies, of either of these byproducts being present, while actually they should be found in major quantities. If there are between 10 and 100 tons of unignited thermite, where are the tens of tons of ingredients aluminum oxide and barium nitrate, hmm?

So not only does Harrit fail to explain the normal and natural presence of substances he alleges to be thermite components, he fails to explain why other components and by products are not found or reported in any quantities at all.

QED.

pwned.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   7:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Flintlock (#297) (Edited)

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   7:46:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#300) (Edited)

Just a wild stab. You don't think a group of sociopathic criminals who set up a PsyOp killing nearly 3,000 people to launch wars killing millions of people would actually whack the passengers as part of the PsyOp do you?

Tell your lies to the families of those who died.

Do you think if that actually happened the families would not find out about it, and would not say something about it?

Name a single family that's alleging their loved ones did not die in airplane crashes.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   8:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: farmfriend, turtle, buckeroo (#299) (Edited)

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

Wouldn't surprise me. He is not the only one either.

Braindead cattle like you, claiming to lead but actually serving to divert your "sheeple" from more productive pursuits - as Noam Chomsky pointed out - are the classic "False Front Op."

Facts "9/11 Skeptics" Don't Want You to See

False theories undermine serious efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example US support of Israel.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   8:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: AGAviator (#295)

you're full of crap.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-09   10:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: AGAviator (#315)

tell your lies to the families who want a real investigation.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-09   10:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: AGAviator (#316)

False theories undermine serious efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example US support of Israel.

Exactly! Jewish Bolshevists murdered 20 million Christian Russians. What happened in Russia is almost exactly what is happening in the U.S. today, except there won't be that kind of genocide because all of us have guns and modern communications.

Instead, we're dealing with a Third World invasion of people of IQs of 85 to 89, and they want to destroy us. Yet people are wasting their time and labor with hallucinations about thousands of people engaging in impossible conspiracies about remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC.

WTF is wrong with these people, to believe such dangerous nonsense? Yet they'll never give it up. They'll spend their entire lives spinning their wheels,

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-09   10:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: Turtle (#319) (Edited)

Instead, we're dealing with a Third World invasion of people of IQs of 85 to 89, and they want to destroy us. Yet people are wasting their time and labor with hallucinations about thousands of people engaging in impossible conspiracies about remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC.

I ran across a quote from Nietzsche the other day, saying if an issue gets sufficiently distorted, it doesn't even need to be answered.

If I find it again I'll put it in my sig line.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   11:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: IRTorqued (#318) (Edited)

Tell your lies to the families who want a real investigation.

Investigate this, ko00k

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   11:14:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: AGAviator (#315)

You have made the BIG_TIME; congratulations on being nominated a "PSYOP." Soon, you will find more and more discredited posters ignoring you.

You might go down in the HALL_OF_FAME, right after myself.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-09   12:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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