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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Views: 16740
Comments: 362

Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true.

"Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race.

The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.


Poster Comment:

I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile...

I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.

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#300. To: AGAviator, IRTorqued, RickyJ (#295)

None of them was ever seen by their families after the aircraft took off. Many of them got funeral remains during and after the investigation.

What happened to them if Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon as stated.

Just a wild stab. You don't think a group of sociopathic criminals who set up a PsyOp killing nearly 3,000 people to launch wars killing millions of people would actually whack the passengers as part of the PsyOp do you?

Some peoples kids.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   2:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: Original_Intent (#300)

The nerve.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   2:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: farmfriend (#298)

I drew on several papers none of which were written by Niels Haritt although I might also reasonably point out the science is not refuted by ad hominem attacks. If the journal that published it is questionable that does not prove the data false it proves the journal questionable.

Example would be the Enquirer's publication of the blue dress info. I question the Enquirer as a publication but the information about the blue dress was correct.

Gotta love how Men in Black used that.

I gotta watch that again. The only time I saw it I was before I stopped watching TV and I missed part of it because I didn't know it was on.

I avoided it in theaters because I expected it was a PsyOp movie. It was, but it was still funny.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   2:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Original_Intent (#300)

Hey, you got 3 hunnert.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: wudidiz (#301)

Hee, hee.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: wudidiz (#303)

Yeah, I saw that after the fact. Serendipity. When you're hot you're hot. :-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: Original_Intent, christine (#304)

#303

3:00:03

Something about the numbers....


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: farmfriend (#299)

He is not the only one either.

bet on it

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-09   3:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: wudidiz (#306)

#303

3:00:03

Something about the numbers....

I think Sting got it right: "We are Spirits in the Material World".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Original_Intent (#308)

"We are Spirits in the Material World"...

...and "Synchronicity".


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: wudidiz (#309)

Yes, and that is what the NWO crowd is fighting against. They're swimming upstream now as things begin to align against them, and soon they'll be like cockroaches in a jar.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   3:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Original_Intent (#310)

No amount of riches or lies or bombs will keep the Spirit from visiting them in their dreams.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-09   3:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: AGAviator (#280)

Flight 77 did clip a number of light poles on its way in. The engines and the airplane didn't dig big holes into the ground because the wingfs and fuselage were partially shielded by ground effect. When they did hit things, the hits were shearing impacts which glanced off the objects and allowed the plane to continue moving forward.

The FDR data contradicts the official fairy tale which you are parroting.


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
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Critter  posted on  2010-07-09   6:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, turtle. (#296) (Edited)

All your alleged information is from one thoroughly discredited source: Niels Harritt.

Wrong again Buzzard Breath. As now seems par for the course you attempt to twist other people's positions into a strawman and then attack the strawman. Did I refer to Niels Haritt in my post? Well?

Yoo hoo, fuckwit.

Open Chemical Physics Journal, Volume 2: Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe pp.7-31 (25) Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Niels H. Harrit just happens to be the lead person on your only so called "peer reviewed publication" (a lie, it's a actually a pay to print publication) that's ever been published anywhere.

As such he is the leader of the k00kcrowd pushing the thermite angle. So Harritt's own research motives, and processes, and his qualifications in the field are very open to questioning. He started the whole $hitpile of crappy "research" that everybody else is running around parroting.

But instead of acknowledging that Harrit is the ring leader of the particular CT talking point, you say "Boo hoo, I never quoted Harritt you big meanie," and start your usual word salad alleging how poor little you is being victimized by false arguments which are actually right on point arguments you can't refute and therefore wish to dismiss with your usual "poor me, poor CT's" shtick.

Your next "source," "Combustion characteristics of A1 nanoparticles and nanocomposite A1+MoO3 thermites" happens to say on its lead page

Submitted to the Graduate Faculty of Texas Tech University in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

So now somebody writing a glorified term paper, who doesn't even have PhD, trying to get a PhD, is your backup for debunked Kook in Chief Niels Harrit.

Heeeeeeyyyyy. Wait a minute. I thought all the PhD's who say that Harritt is full of $hit are eebil gubmint sell outs and false scientists.

So why are you quoting a glorified term paper of somebody trying to join their ranks?

LOLOL.

Although a lot of the work they have done is for military research and is classified, but they could address the basic question as to the presence of aluminothermic Super Thermite (which is the other name used for it) but they have not and very likely will not, because to do so and maintain the NIST stonewall they would have to lie, and lies would be provably false.

Finally, the Harrit debunking link I posted, which you never bothered to watch in your haste to claim victim status, explicitly states Harrit's research is not only defective in its hasty conculsions about how sulfur and iron are present be found, it is equally defective in not explaining the absensce of "thermate ingredients" aluminum oxide 41% and barium nitrate 29%. Cited at 2:10 in the "Niels Harrit Debunked" video above.

There is zero evidence Harrit supplies, of either of these byproducts being present, while actually they should be found in major quantities. If there are between 10 and 100 tons of unignited thermite, where are the tens of tons of ingredients aluminum oxide and barium nitrate, hmm?

So not only does Harrit fail to explain the normal and natural presence of substances he alleges to be thermite components, he fails to explain why other components and by products are not found or reported in any quantities at all.

QED.

pwned.

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   7:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Flintlock (#297) (Edited)

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   7:46:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#300) (Edited)

Just a wild stab. You don't think a group of sociopathic criminals who set up a PsyOp killing nearly 3,000 people to launch wars killing millions of people would actually whack the passengers as part of the PsyOp do you?

Tell your lies to the families of those who died.

Do you think if that actually happened the families would not find out about it, and would not say something about it?

Name a single family that's alleging their loved ones did not die in airplane crashes.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   8:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: farmfriend, turtle, buckeroo (#299) (Edited)

WARNING: AGAviator is a paid government agent who is here to spread disinformation. BEWARE!

Wouldn't surprise me. He is not the only one either.

Braindead cattle like you, claiming to lead but actually serving to divert your "sheeple" from more productive pursuits - as Noam Chomsky pointed out - are the classic "False Front Op."

Facts "9/11 Skeptics" Don't Want You to See

False theories undermine serious efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example US support of Israel.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   8:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: AGAviator (#295)

you're full of crap.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-09   10:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: AGAviator (#315)

tell your lies to the families who want a real investigation.


computer counted ballots are ballots that have been counted in secret, and with all probability not the way one voted.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-07-09   10:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: AGAviator (#316)

False theories undermine serious efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example US support of Israel.

Exactly! Jewish Bolshevists murdered 20 million Christian Russians. What happened in Russia is almost exactly what is happening in the U.S. today, except there won't be that kind of genocide because all of us have guns and modern communications.

Instead, we're dealing with a Third World invasion of people of IQs of 85 to 89, and they want to destroy us. Yet people are wasting their time and labor with hallucinations about thousands of people engaging in impossible conspiracies about remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC.

WTF is wrong with these people, to believe such dangerous nonsense? Yet they'll never give it up. They'll spend their entire lives spinning their wheels,

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-09   10:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: Turtle (#319) (Edited)

Instead, we're dealing with a Third World invasion of people of IQs of 85 to 89, and they want to destroy us. Yet people are wasting their time and labor with hallucinations about thousands of people engaging in impossible conspiracies about remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC.

I ran across a quote from Nietzsche the other day, saying if an issue gets sufficiently distorted, it doesn't even need to be answered.

If I find it again I'll put it in my sig line.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   11:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: IRTorqued (#318) (Edited)

Tell your lies to the families who want a real investigation.

Investigate this, ko00k

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   11:14:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: AGAviator (#315)

You have made the BIG_TIME; congratulations on being nominated a "PSYOP." Soon, you will find more and more discredited posters ignoring you.

You might go down in the HALL_OF_FAME, right after myself.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-09   12:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: AGAviator, All (#321)

One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

That's actually true. In terms of warfare, the 9-11 attacks are insignificant compared to say, the Battle of Stalingrad, in which there were more casualties than all of America's war combined.

Yet I am amazed at the number of Americans simply obsessed with trying to prove the US government was behind 9-11, while in the meantime this country is being destroyed by Third World immigration and the politically-connected superrich exporting the middle class to China.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-09   12:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: AGAviator (#295)

None of them was ever seen by their families after the aircraft took off. Many of them got funeral remains during and after the investigation.

What happened to them if Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon as stated.

I believe that these were the first accidents of jet planes full of highly- refined kerosene crashing into buildings, hence, the unusual patterns of destruction found at the crash sites.

Thanks for the pings everybody and this concludes my appearance in this thread :-)

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X-15  posted on  2010-07-09   12:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: AGAviator (#315)

Tell your lies to the families of those who died.

Do you think if that actually happened the families would not find out about it, and would not say something about it?

If you weren't such a jackass and had ANY clue as to the actual events and the aftermath, you'l know that it WAS the victim's families that have pushed for a 9/11 investigation, and who are LEADING the "truth" movement.

9/11 Press For Truth - Victims' Families Tell the Story the Media Won't


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   13:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: Turtle (#323)

That's actually true. In terms of warfare, the 9-11 attacks are insignificant compared to say, the Battle of Stalingrad, in which there were more casualties than all of America's war combined.

So go apologize to the families of the millions of people our nation has killed over it, and tell your pal Obama to bring all the troops home NOW.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   13:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: AGAviator (#321)

Your image shows a tiny piece of thin metal, with NO scorch marks on it whatsover, yet you wish us to believe it came from an aircraft that impacted a brick wall at 500+ mph, and was engulfed in flames. Is this the best proof you have to offer that 19 A-RABS did it?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   13:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: FormerLurker (#325)

If you weren't such a jackass and had ANY clue

Ah, so little time, so much "jackassery" and so few clues for agitprop/bs artists.

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OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-07-09   13:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: AGAviator, FormerLurker, X-15, wudidiz, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Flintlock, all (#313)

My goodness. Now you are going from the preposterous to the sublimely idiotic.

Ever hear the term Phd.? It's shorthand for DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY and is the highest GRADUATE degree awarded by a college or university. It is the same regardless of the field. I know this might come as a shock to you but it is the standard nomenclature for a degree of that level in ANY field of learning or research whether Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, Molecular Biology, etc., .... To acquire one one must propose, research, and then defend a Dissertation in front of a faculty committee much more rigorous than ANY "peer reviewed" journal.

As for the rest of your drivel it is unworthy of comment other than to simply state again that the data is what the data is not as you would wish to misrepresent in your Strawman Arguments.

As for your rather quaint slangy malapropism:

Got Xbox? (Do you put your Skateboard next to it?)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   14:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: FormerLurker, Turtle, buckeroo (#325)

WAS the victim's families that have pushed for a 9/11 investigation, and who are LEADING the "truth" movement.

9/11 Press For Truth - Victims' Families Tell the Story the Media Won't

Give me the name of one family out of 3,000+ who says that a family member reported to have died in a 9/11 airplane crash, did not actually die in that airplane crash.

Then tell me how and where that family says the family member died.

QED.

pwned.

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   14:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: Original_Intent (#329) (Edited)

Ever hear the term Phd.? It's shorthand for DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY and is the highest GRADUATE degree awarded by a college or university

Ever heard that every single PhD at Steven Jones' University, Brigham Young, who has publicly spoken about Steven Jones' k00ky claims, says his claims are unfounded and unsupported by valid research? That's into the dozens or even hundreds who think Jones is FOS. Not a good time to cite PhD's as being experts in their fields. But I already know, you'll tailor your story to fit whatever situation you think an altered version will help you out in.

For a degree of that level in ANY field of learning or research whether Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, Molecular Biology, etc., .... To acquire one one must propose, research, and then defend a Dissertation in front of a faculty committee much more rigorous than ANY "peer reviewed" journal.

So where are the "peer reviewed" publications of said PhD's supporting internet 911 CT's, maroon?

Other than a solitary $800 "pay to get published" blurb out of a Dhubai hole- in-the-wall?

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   14:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: Original_Intent, AGAviator (#329)

AGAviator

The guy is a flunky. He's a drooling government shill, disinfo agent, plant, snitch, rat, and overall fed rodent. I'm sure in real life he's a groveling little twerp who soils himself every time his boss walks by.

Don't take what he says with a grain of salt, use the whole shaker.

WWGPD? - (What Would General Pinochet Do?)

Flintlock  posted on  2010-07-09   14:44:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: AGAviator, formerlurker (#330)

Give me the name of one family out of 3,000+ who says that a family member reported to have died in a 9/11 airplane crash, did not actually die in that airplane crash.

That's a good point, AG.

Recently, the US Supreme Court denied a class action suit against Saudia Arabia by the same families. Of course, Kagan (a BS artist par excellent) argued for the outcome.

June 29, 2009, 2:23 p.m. EST Statement by Counsel for the Family of John P. O'Neill in Response to U.S. Supreme Court's Refusal to Hear 9/11 Victims' Case Against Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Others

PHILADELPHIA, June 29, 2009 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following is a statement by Jerry S. Goldman of Anderson Kill & Olick, P.C., counsel to the family of John P. O'Neill, Sr.:

We are disappointed by today's decision by the United States Supreme Court to refuse to hear the case brought by the family of the late American hero, John P. O'Neill, on behalf of the victims of 9/11 against the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and others. Federal Insurance Company, et al., v. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, et al., No. 08-640 (6/29/09).

We are saddened to see that the Court declined to apply its traditional standards for accepting a case for review. We assume that it relied upon the arguments propounded by the Executive branch and the defendants to deny the 9/11 victims their day in Court against certain sovereign nations, such as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, that we allege materially support terrorists.

We note, however, that there are still cases pending in the lower courts against other sovereign nations unaffected by the Supreme Court's ruling.

We note, too, that there are still cases pending against other defendants seeking to hold them accountable for their actions in assisting Al Qaeda.

At the Supreme Court, the Justice Department argued that the decision of the Second Circuit was only of limited impact on the other defendants in the case. We can only assume that the Justice Department will be consistent with the arguments that they propounded before the Supreme Court. Similarly, we are looking forward to their filings as to the scope of sovereign immunity.

We are optimistic that the lower courts will allow the rest of the lawsuit to proceed, as we believe that it is obvious that a United States court is the appropriate forum for hearing claims brought for harms suffered by individuals and businesses on American soil, whether against the terrorists who hijacked planes to wreak death and mass destruction, or against those, who provided the material support enabling terrorists to wreak death and destruction.

We look forward to finally proceeding with discovery and allowing justice to prevail.

About Anderson Kill & Olick, P.C.

Anderson Kill & Olick, P.C. practices law in the areas of Insurance Recovery, Anti-Counterfeiting, Bankruptcy, Commercial Litigation, Corporate & Securities, Employment & Labor Law, Real Estate & Construction, Tax, and Trusts & Estates. The firm's senior attorneys maintain national and international practices from offices in New York City, Newark, NJ, Philadelphia, PA, Washington, D.C., and Ventura, CA. For more information, please visit www.andersonkill.com

GENERAL CONTACT: Jerry S. Goldman/267-216-2795

MEDIA Contact: Andrew Sprung/646-792-3739

SOURCE Anderson Kill & Olick, P.C.

You can find Internet links everywhere on this recent dismissal decision.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-07-09   15:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: buckeroo (#333)

Considering the fact we've sent trillions of dollars of our wealth to Saudia Arabia for their oil instead of drilling for our own, it's fitting we should get some back, especially since the Saudis used that money to fund the Wahabis that attacked us on 9-11.

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-09   15:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: Flintlock (#332)

The guy is a flunky. He's a drooling government shill, disinfo agent, plant, snitch, rat, and overall fed rodent. I'm sure in real life he's a groveling little twerp who soils himself every time his boss walks by.

Dishonesty from Steven Jones

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One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. Noam Chomsky

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-09   15:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: AGAviator (#330)

Give me the name of one family out of 3,000+ who says that a family member reported to have died in a 9/11 airplane crash, did not actually die in that airplane crash.

Who here is claiming that family members didn't die from a plane crash, or from the towers collapsing? You?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   16:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: AGAviator (#330)

pwned.

Epic fail, then walk away claiming victory. What a loser.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   16:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: AGAviator (#331)

So who are YOUR experts, Jim Rob, Goldi-Lox, Byteshredder, and yukon?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   16:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: AGAviator, Flintlock, Original_Intent (#335)

Dishonesty from Steven Jones

Your YouTube video "expert" is a moron.

First off, the squibs appear BEFORE the building collapses, thus they are not caused by air pressure from the collapse.

Secondly, the commerical demolitions are more than likely using commercial grade explosives, rather than a military grade explosive such as C4. That is why their squibs "hang" in the air, since they create more smoke than something like C4.

Have you ever seen a hand grenade explode? They make NO smoke, just one HUGE bang. They are filled with C4.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-09   16:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: Flintlock (#332)

Don't take what he says with a grain of salt, use the whole shaker.

Kind of like getting rid of slippery slimy slugs?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-09   17:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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