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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true. "Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race. The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.
Poster Comment: I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile... I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke Why does anyone believe anything he says? I mean, come on! .
there are some funny as heck vids about the reptilians. turtle, meanwhile buys papa governments version of 9/11 hook line & sinker. so,...
I dont hold that against him. You have to admit, there are some wacky "theories" out there. They make us look stupid when they start talking about "blue beam" holograms, thermite/thermate (neither are explosives), UFOs, etc. Some are intentional disinfo and others are just plain nuts IMO. In alex jones' case, he's both nuts and a disinfo scumbag. THe best way is to attack them at the weakest link, and IMO that is bldg. 7. The next weakest link is the pentagon. There are aalso plenty of professionals that agree with us on the towers demolition. Here is a favorite and I never miss a chance in posting it. killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html .
You saw the structural steel beams in the WTC that were clearly cut (on an angle to facilitate collapse) as if by a gas cutting torch? That''s what the thermite/thermate was likely used for. They make special porcelain molds to hold the thermite in place as it blows through steel box beams like a hot knife through butter. (pix of box beams cut off clean at Ground Zero) Remember the You Tube video of a can of thermite burning all the way through a car engine block and landing on the ground underneath? Surely you can understand the utility of exothermic cutting charges in a planned demo that was supposed to be the result of something other than a planned collapse. In the background is a tall beam that has been cut but did not fall. If that was done by breakers after the disaster it would have been pulled down by a crane to avoid injury or death to workers in the area.
I disagree. Cutting charges are shaped high explosive charges. They cut right thru steel with no problem. Why use thermite when cutting charges have been used for years? Explosions were heard in the towers and reported on the news. AFA the pics at the link go, were those cut just before the towers fell or during the cleanup? In the background is a tall beam that has been cut but did not fall. If that was done by breakers after the disaster it would have been pulled down by a crane to avoid injury or death to workers in the area. There was a lot of rubble that was a danger to workers. Getting rid of it was a process. WHere in the process was that pic taken? Here is where relying on pics can be problematic, because there is no context. .
It takes a great deal more of an explosive charge to blow a steel beam that it takes thermite/thermate to burn it. Also, explosives used against hard targets have to be tamped, ("Hey, Chief, how come all of the main support columns have sand bags packed against them and wires running out?",) but exothermics work great with nothing but the form fitting (and low profile) porcelain molds to contain them. Also, thermite can be used to precisely cut a steel beam at an angle so it will slide off the "stump" when cut. Had all of the the beams been blown there would have been no way to make the official fairie tale stick. (Some explosives were used but the witnesses conveniently died) Numerous seismographs would reveal the lies and even self assured know-it-alls couldn't explain them away.
I wasn't able to verify that. NOt that I'm calling you a liar, because I'm not. But with this topic specifically, I like to check things out for myself. All I know about explosives I learned thru my own efforts. I never worked with them myself. And there is no way in hell I'd ever make them. Even though the info on how to do it is out there. You just need to be a chemist and have access to nitric acid for many of them, which is hard to come by. SOme even post their explosions on jewtube, the dumbasses. All I am saying is that this thermite issue is not important, and AFAIK there is no evidence for it. It's a distraction. Cutting charges can do the job very well. They are used all the time. Oh well. We agree on the basics. IMO that is enough. I dont think we'll ever get the whole story. ,
Debunking 911: Noam Chomsky "...I am not persuaded by the assumption that much documentation and other evidence has been uncovered. To determine that, we'd have to investigate the alleged evidence. Take, say, the physical evidence. There are ways to assess that: submit it to specialists -- of whom there are thousands -- who have the requisite background in civil-mechanical engineering, materials science, building construction, etc., for review and analysis; and one cannot gain the required knowledge by surfing the internet. In fact, that's been done, by the professional association of civil engineers. Or, take the course pursued by anyone who thinks they have made a genuine discovery: submit it to a serious journal [AGA: Not pay to publish, unquoted by other publications like Open Access] for peer review and publication. To my knowledge, there isn't a single submission." "I think this reaches the heart of the matter. One of the major consequences of the 9/11 movement has been to draw enormous amounts of energy and effort away from activism directed to real and ongoing crimes of state, and their institutional background, crimes that are far more serious than blowing up the WTC would be, if there were any credibility to that thesis. That is, I suspect, why the 9/11 movement is treated far more tolerantly by centers of power than is the norm for serious critical and activist work. How do you personally set priorities? That's of course up to you. I've explained my priorities often, in print as well as elsewhere, but we have to make our own judgments." "...I don't see any reason to accept the presuppositions. As for the consequences, in one of my first interviews after 9/11 I pointed out the obvious: every power system in the world was going to exploit it for its own interests: the Russians in Chechnya, China against the Uighurs, Israel in the occupied territories,... etc., and states would exploit the opportunity to control their own populations more fully through "prevention of terrorism acts" and the like. By the "who gains" argument, every power system in the world could be assigned responsibility for 9/11." "I think the Bush administration would have had to be utterly insane to try anything like what is alleged, for their own narrow interests, and do not think that serious evidence has been provided to support claims about actions that would not only be outlandish, for their own interests, but that have no remote historical parallel. The effects, however, are all too clear, namely, what I just mentioned: diverting activism and commitment away from the very serious ongoing crimes of state."
Stick around long enough and you will eventually lose any 9/11 argument here.
ROTFLAMO!!! Chomsky, a professor at MIT, has by himself more awards, publications, and references than all your 911 internet poobahs from any and every place in the world put together. Listen. I'm going to make an attempt to be civil replying to such unfounded remarks, but if you insist on making such flagrantly false statements without a shred of evidence to support them, because of your preconceived agenda found only on the anonymous internet sites, your statements will be seen as nothing more than parroting groupthink brain aberrations. Chomsky has received many honorary degrees from universities around the world, including from the following: University of London University of Chicago Loyola University of Chicago Swarthmore College University of Delhi Bard College University of Massachusetts University of Pennsylvania Georgetown University Amherst College University of Cambridge University of Buenos Aires McGill University Universitat Rovira i Virgili Columbia University Villanova University University of Connecticut University of Maine Scuola Normale Superiore University of Western Ontario University of Toronto Harvard University Universidad de Chile University of Bologna Universidad de la Frontera University of Calcutta Universidad Nacional de Colombia Vrije Universiteit Brussel Santo Domingo Institute of Technology Uppsala University University of Athens University of Cyprus Central Connecticut State University National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) He is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society. In addition, he is a member of other professional and learned societies in the United States and abroad, and is a recipient of the Distinguished Scientific Contribution Award of the American Psychological Association, the Kyoto Prize in Basic Sciences, the Helmholtz Medal, the Dorothy Eldridge Peacemaker Award, the 1999 Benjamin Franklin Medal in Computer and Cognitive Science, and others.[99] He is twice winner of The Orwell Award, granted by The National Council of Teachers of English for "Distinguished Contributions to Honesty and Clarity in Public Language" (in 1987 and 1989).[100] He is a member of the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts in Department of Social Sciences.[101] Chomsky is a member of the Faculty Advisory Board of MIT Harvard Research Journal.[102] In 2005, Chomsky received an honorary fellowship from the Literary and Historical Society.[103] In 2007, Chomsky received The Uppsala University (Sweden) Honorary Doctor's degree in commemoration of Carolus Linnaeus.[104] In February 2008, he received the President's Medal from the Literary and Debating Society of the National University of Ireland, Galway.[105] In 2010, Chomsky received the Erich Fromm Prize in Stuttgart, Germany.[106] Chomsky has an ErdQs number of four. Chomsky was voted the leading living public intellectual in The 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll conducted by the British magazine Prospect. He reacted, saying "I don't pay a lot of attention to polls". [107] In a list compiled by the magazine New Statesman in 2006, he was voted seventh in the list of "Heroes of our time".[108] Actor Viggo Mortensen with avant-garde guitarist Buckethead dedicated their 2006 album, called Pandemoniumfromamerica to Chomsky. On January 22, 2010, a special honorary concert for Chomsky was given at Kresge Auditorium at MIT.[109] [110] The concert, attended by Chomsky and dozens of his family and friends, featured music composed by Edward Manukyan and speeches by Chomsky's colleagues, including David Pesetsky of MIT and Gennaro Chierchia, head of the linguistics department at Harvard University. Criticism Main article: Criticism of Noam Chomsky Much Chomsky criticism revolves around his political views. His status as an intellectual figure within the left wing of American politics has resulted in much criticism from the left and the right. Bibliography Main article: Bibliography of Noam Chomsky Filmography There's so much debunking of these CT's on just one website, Debunking 911.com, I could spend entire days just cutting, pasting and whacking every CT argument that's ever been posted. From there directly. With quotes from successful people, arguments, sources, exposes of lies and half-truths published on CT sites that distort original messages, etc. However, as I've posted repeatedly through the years, and Chomsky notes too, the real damage done by the 911 Twoofers is to move opposition from being concerned with substantive issues to fringe circles, where the PTB prefer it to be so they can point at the collective lack of practicality and intelligence of those saying they want change. So I'm not going to get too consumed with rebutting every CT because people with common sense know they're not right to begin with and it's a waste of time and energy to put a lot of effort into time-traveling into that Alice-in- Wonderland rabbit hole. But don't try to push me too much on the issue or you'll get rebuttals you can't refute in spades.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. There is a lot of crap put out by "truthers" and our government "leaders". This is why I said I don't think we will ever get the complete truth about what happened that day. This is a perfect example of why I don't believe anyone, "VIP" or not, that makes allegations. An allegation without proof is probably a lie. That goes for "truthers" and the .gov. For example, there is this, from your post 18: Thermite was used by the cleanup crews to remove the large metal pieces of the structures that could not be removed as a whole pice. That sounds like BS to me. Why use thermite when cutting torches would do the job? Where is the proof that this was done??? He doesn't give it. .
There is a lot of crap put out by "truthers" and our government "leaders". This is why I said I don't think we will ever get the complete truth about what happened that day. Yes, I agree we will never get the truth, unless perhaps people in Washington and Tel Aviv get "waterboarded." Both Cheney and Netanyahu have stated that 911 was good, Cheney for America and Netanyahu publicly stating in news media that 911 was "good" for Israel, then quickly modifying his statement “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy” to cover his tracks. Cheney clique people were always privy to special intelligence from Israel, in order to give them means to continue subverting the US to do that country's bidding. They also overrode numerous warnings from counter intelligence professionals that "Israeli art students" who were discharged Israeli military starting training to be hand picked by the Mossad as future agents, were systematically casing out secure American military and government sites and reporting how they could be penetrated. They also were busy tracking radical Islamists who had their own agendas in the United States coming out of the Afghan training camps. Regarding the Afghan and Pakistan training camps, there's no question they existed and they did turn out the suicide bombers they have been alleged to. I happen to have some good connections with former Afghan mujahideen and ever since the late 1980's-1990's, the Afghans who were moderate and pro- Western repeatedly warned the US about the need to do something about these foreigners who the Afghans did not want in their own homeland. Unfortunately the State Department and CIA were totally unconcerned about Afghanistan's future, and allowed a country which had 1.5 million of its civilians killed to devolve into anarchy and civil war. Abdul Haq, one very prominent mujahideen commander, made a 1994 statement where he said if the United States didn't "clean up its $hit" in Afghanistan, there would be narcotics terrorism and then the US would eventually have to invade, and when that happened the US would be stuck just as the British and the Russians were. Haq's prediction has turned out to be 100% accurate and now instead of spending under $100 million and zero casualties, America is on its way to $1 trillion, 1,000 KIA, 100,000 or more wounded, and a an economy teetering on bankruptcy. The "Israeli moving company" story about 5-6 Israelis filming the WTC collapse and celebrating, was also reported until Fox News abruptly stopped runnning it. However there is still documenation of some of those Jews arested appearing on Israel TV talk shows. They excuse their behavior by the usual "Jews are victims" bull$hit which is about to get them knocked out of the park by the rest of the world's population which is getting quite tired of Jew self- asserted special privileges. So the road to NYC on 911 does go through Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, but it also has a route through Washington, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. Debunking 911 has enough CT- busting, voluminously documented, sourced, discussed, and linked, to keep anyone busy for days just reading and following links. Debunking 911: Rethinking Thermite I don't want to take up several pages copying it to here. Those debunkers do a bang up job rebutting the CT pablum.
Great shot of the angular cut beam. Straight sheer planes like that happen every day when heavy structural steel fails in catastrophic collapses. Way to go! /Sacasm
Never heard of a cutting torch I take it? Mind telling me what that metal thingy extending a couple feet from the left corner of the basket is? And what'sgenerating that [shudder] yellowish smoke spiraling up from the basket? This oughta be interesting.... [quote] Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction...[/quote] You haven't even read the effing link. That's not a thermite made cut One is the timeline. They say the photo has firemen which means this was during the rescue operation which only lasted two weeks. Why would they have fireman after the rescue operations? This suggests to them that the cut on the columns were made very close to September 11. The suggestion here is that it was done during the collapse....They claim that the angle of the cut can't be created by a welding tool and/or is designed to have the building fall in a certain direction. The other is a yellow substance they claim is residue from a thermite reaction. Let's examine these claims one by one to see where the evidence takes us... But is it possible the column was cut at an angle so just the column fell in a certain direction during cleanup? This can't be, surely the scholars would have asked an ironworker or someone else on the scene. I bet there isn't one photograph someone can find on the internet of a column which is cut at an angle. Remember, we're talking about "Scholars" here. Maybe I'm being a little unfair. Maybe I just happened to get this from some obscure site. Maybe I work for the government and have a stash of photos the scholars aren't privy to... No, actually I got this from the same place the scholars got their photo. Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction as seen in the video below. And now a few words about your ***peer-reviewed science sources.*** New Scientist: CRAP Paper Accepted by Journal Earlier this year, Davis started receiving unsolicited emails from Bentham Science Publishers, which publishes more than 200 "open- access" journals – which turn the conventional business model of academic publishing on its head by charging publication fees to the authors of research papers, and then making the content available for free. As the emails stacked up, Davis was not only encouraged to submit papers, but was also invited to serve on the editorial board of some of Bentham's journals – for which he was told he would be allowed to publish one free article each year. "I received solicitations for journals for which I had no subject expertise at all," says Davis. "It really painted a picture of vanity publishing." Sheer nonsense So Davis teamed up with Kent Anderson, a member of the publishing team at The New England Journal of Medicine, to put Bentham's editorial standards to the test. The pair turned to SCIgen, a program that generates nonsensical computer science papers, and submitted the resulting paper to The Open Information Science Journal, published by Bentham. The paper, entitled "Deconstructing Access Points" (pdf) made no sense whatsoever, as this sample reveals: In this section, we discuss existing research into red-black trees, vacuum tubes, and courseware [10]. On a similar note, recent work by Takahashi suggests a methodology for providing robust modalities, but does not offer an implementation [9]. Acronym clue Davis and Anderson, writing under the noms de plume David Phillips and Andrew Kent, also dropped a hefty hint of the hoax by giving their institutional affiliation as the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology, or CRAP. Yet four months after the article was submitted, "David Phillips" received an email from Sana Mokarram, Bentham's assistant manager of publication: This is to inform you that your submitted article has been accepted for publication after peer-reviewing process in TOISCIJ. I would be highly grateful to you if you please fill and sign the attached fee form and covering letter and send them back via email as soon as possible to avoid further delay in publication. The publication fee was $800, to be sent to a PO Box in the United Arab Emirates. Having made his point, Davis withdrew the paper. Mahmood Alam, Bentham's director of publications, responded to queries from New Scientist by email: "In this particular case we were aware that the article submitted was a hoax, and we tried to find out the identity of the individual by pretending the article had been accepted for publication when in fact it was not." "Why hasn't he attempted to contact me directly in order to determine my true identity?" Davis responds. pwned
#47. To: AGAviator, Turtle (#40)
"Why hasn't he attempted to contact me directly in order to determine my true identity?" Davis responds. pwned Yep! That is some serious pwnage. This is what happens when one introduces a nonsensical topic (thermite) that has nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. It is a distraction that takes away from honest debate and fact finding. People have gaps in their knowledge. Let's call them round holes. They try to fit in a square peg. It doesn't fit. So, instead of looking for a round peg to fit that empty round hole, they take that square peg and beat it into that hole with a hammer. Meanwhile, Turtle is probably giggling like a little schoolgirl. The little shit-starter. .
Nanonthermites, a fairly recent and very advanced iteration of an old product, is a different fettle of kish. It has both heat generating and explosive properties based upon how it is applied and/or ignited. Attempting to refute the physical evidence by using a Strawman i.e., the reaction of standard relatively low energy thermite is a comparison of a unlike items - sort of like trying to claim a Pony is a Clydesdale. One can look at the sharp angular cut of the beam, along with the telltale slag from having reached a molten state and know that the beam was sliced intentionally in some fashion. A paper fire does not do that, nor burning office furnishings, Jet fuel, or any of the other proposed mechanisms. The best the debunkers can come up with is the assertion that someone might have cut it after the fact while providing no sound rationale for cutting it at a steep angle. An after the fact debris removal crew, if they found it necessary to cut, would not intentionally make the longest possible cut to clear debris. I could literally waste hours going through point by tedious point, or I could sum it all up by simply inviting people to look at the mountains of available evidence, the contradictions in the Official Conspiracy Theory™, and compare them to the observed events and phenomena. One can only accept the Official Conspiracy Theory™ by disregarding lab analyses, the fact that the chairman of the 911 Commission has himself publicly said that government agencies lied to the Commission, along with literally hundreds of other datums that are in direct contradiction to the Official Conspiracy Theory™. While I don't claim to know all the details and names there is one thing I can say with certainty and that is that the Official Conspiracy Theory™ of "19Arabswhohateuscuzwe'refree" directed by a madman (a CIA employee no less) in a cave in a remote mountain comes nowhere near accounting for the observed events, phenomena, and contradictory data.
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#11. To: PSUSA (#5)
thermite/thermate (neither are explosives)
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#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)
but exothermics work great with nothing but the form fitting (and low profile) porcelain molds to contain them.
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#26. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Artisan, *9-11* (#24)
#27. To: wudidiz (#26)
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Noam Chomsky is not all that bright.
In the spring of 1969, he delivered the John Locke Lectures at Oxford University; in January 1970, the Bertrand Russell Memorial Lecture at University of Cambridge; in 1972, the Nehru Memorial Lecture in New Delhi; in 1977, the Huizinga Lecture in Leiden; in 1988 the Massey Lectures at the University of Toronto, titled "Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies"; in 1997, The Davie Memorial Lecture on Academic Freedom in Cape Town,[97] and many others.[98]
Stick around long enough and you will eventually lose any 9/11 argument here.
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, Director: Mark Achbar and Peter Wintonick (1992)
Last Party 2000, Director: Rebecca Chaiklin and Donovan Leitch (2001)
Power and Terror: Noam Chomsky in Our Times, Director: John Junkerman (2002)
Distorted Morality—America's War On Terror?, Director: John Junkerman (2003)
Noam Chomsky: Rebel Without a Pause (TV), Director: Will Pascoe (2003)
The Corporation, Directors: Mark Achbar and Jennifer Abbott; Writer: Joel Bakan (2003)
Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land, Directors: Sut Jhally and Bathsheba Ratzkoff (2004)
On Power, Dissent and Racism: A discussion with Noam Chomsky, Journalist: Nicolas Rossier; Producers: Eli Choukri, Baraka Productions (2004)
Lake of Fire, Director: Tony Kaye (2006)
American Feud: A History of Conservatives and Liberals, Director: Richard Hall (2008)
In the Time We've Got, Director: Christopher Ives (2008)
Chomsky & Cie Director: Olivier Azam (out in 2008)
An Inconvenient Tax, Director: Christopher P. Marshall (out in 2009)
The Money Fix, Director: Alan Rosenblith (2009)
Pax Americana and the Weaponization of Space, Director: Denis Delestrac (2010)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
#28. To: AGAviator (#27)
So I'm not going to get too consumed with rebutting every CT because people with common sense know they're not right to begin with and it's a waste of time and energy to put a lot of effort into time-traveling into that Alice-in- Wonderland rabbit hole.
#30. To: PSUSA (#28)
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Thermite was used by the cleanup crews to remove the large metal pieces of the structures that could not be removed as a whole pice.
That sounds like BS to me. Why use thermite when cutting torches would do the job? Where is the proof that this was done??? He doesn't give it.
One of the pieces of evidence conspiracy theorists use to say the buildings were brought down is a photo with something they interpret as being left behind by a thermite reaction.
More info on the above link.
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#40. To: Original_Intent (#35)
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Great shot of the angular cut beam. Straight sheer planes like that happen every day when heavy structural steel fails in catastrophic collapses. Way to go! /Sacasm
There are a number of things they claim with this photo.
At New Scientist we love a good hoax, especially one that both amuses and makes a serious point about the communication of science. So kudos to Philip Davis, a graduate student at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, who revealed yesterday on The Scholarly Kitchen blog that he got a nonsensical computer-generated paper accepted for publication in a peer-reviewed journal.
Replies to Comment # 40. Mahmood Alam, Bentham's director of publications, responded to queries from New Scientist by email: "In this particular case we were aware that the article submitted was a hoax, and we tried to find out the identity of the individual by pretending the article had been accepted for publication when in fact it was not."
#50. To: AGAviator, all (#40)
[quote] Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction...[/quote]
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