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Title: Barack Obama: Shape Shifting Reptilian Overlord or Pure Human?
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Published: Jul 4, 2010
Author: russell huebsch
Post Date: 2010-07-04 14:41:52 by Turtle
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Is Barack Obama really a shape shifting reptilian humanoid from a far away galaxy bent on the enslavement of the human race? According to David Icke, who claims on his web site that most world leaders come from a line of reptilians originating in the Alpha Draconis, Barack Obama is most likely a blood drinking shape shifter bent on progressing the New World Order. Icke's reptilian theory makes the claim that reptilians plan to control humanity and other civilizations through fear and negative emotion, a food source for the reptilian. Icke believes the reptilians plan for world domination started to unravel with the September 11 attacks on New York and Obama's presidency will lead us into this "New World Order", but is this just mere babbling from a sick mind or does this theory have some legitimacy? Here are signs that the Obama reptilian conspiracy is true. "Change we need": Has Obama told us all along that he is a changeling/shape shifting reptilian? Think about it, change always happens when a new president enters office, perhaps Obama's corporeal body is crying out to the world that a shape shifting reptilian alien has hijacked his avatar. "Change" might also be a code word for reptilian dictators across the globe that America has elected another shape shifter as president. Even Adolph Hitler claimed to bring change for the German people, but as we know all the only thing the world received from Hitler was millions of lost lives and the genocide of an entire race of people. Whatever this "change" really means it certainly does not bode well for the future of America and even worse for the human race. The questionable birth certificate: Why would any presidential candidate try so desperately to hide a real birth certificate? Perhaps because reptilian overlords do not receive birth certificates, they congeal out of a pile of goo! The voting public would never vote for a space reptilian and if the plan for world domination ever leaked to the general there would be mass chaos, thus the Republican party could never reveal Obama's true ancestry and the reptilian conspiracy continues.
Poster Comment: I always thought Obama was just half kaffir and half white trash race traitor. But perhaps he's a David Icke blood-drinking shape-shifting space reptile... I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overloads. I'll point out to them all my enemies, so they can eat them.
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LOL sorry it was probably a computer that melted on the beam.
"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." Never heard of a cutting torch I take it? Mind telling me what that metal thingy extending a couple feet from the left corner of the basket is? And what'sgenerating that [shudder] yellowish smoke spiraling up from the basket? This oughta be interesting.... [quote] Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction...[/quote] You haven't even read the effing link. That's not a thermite made cut One is the timeline. They say the photo has firemen which means this was during the rescue operation which only lasted two weeks. Why would they have fireman after the rescue operations? This suggests to them that the cut on the columns were made very close to September 11. The suggestion here is that it was done during the collapse....They claim that the angle of the cut can't be created by a welding tool and/or is designed to have the building fall in a certain direction. The other is a yellow substance they claim is residue from a thermite reaction. Let's examine these claims one by one to see where the evidence takes us... But is it possible the column was cut at an angle so just the column fell in a certain direction during cleanup? This can't be, surely the scholars would have asked an ironworker or someone else on the scene. I bet there isn't one photograph someone can find on the internet of a column which is cut at an angle. Remember, we're talking about "Scholars" here. Maybe I'm being a little unfair. Maybe I just happened to get this from some obscure site. Maybe I work for the government and have a stash of photos the scholars aren't privy to... No, actually I got this from the same place the scholars got their photo. Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction as seen in the video below. And now a few words about your ***peer-reviewed science sources.*** New Scientist: CRAP Paper Accepted by Journal Earlier this year, Davis started receiving unsolicited emails from Bentham Science Publishers, which publishes more than 200 "open- access" journals – which turn the conventional business model of academic publishing on its head by charging publication fees to the authors of research papers, and then making the content available for free. As the emails stacked up, Davis was not only encouraged to submit papers, but was also invited to serve on the editorial board of some of Bentham's journals – for which he was told he would be allowed to publish one free article each year. "I received solicitations for journals for which I had no subject expertise at all," says Davis. "It really painted a picture of vanity publishing." Sheer nonsense So Davis teamed up with Kent Anderson, a member of the publishing team at The New England Journal of Medicine, to put Bentham's editorial standards to the test. The pair turned to SCIgen, a program that generates nonsensical computer science papers, and submitted the resulting paper to The Open Information Science Journal, published by Bentham. The paper, entitled "Deconstructing Access Points" (pdf) made no sense whatsoever, as this sample reveals: In this section, we discuss existing research into red-black trees, vacuum tubes, and courseware [10]. On a similar note, recent work by Takahashi suggests a methodology for providing robust modalities, but does not offer an implementation [9]. Acronym clue Davis and Anderson, writing under the noms de plume David Phillips and Andrew Kent, also dropped a hefty hint of the hoax by giving their institutional affiliation as the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology, or CRAP. Yet four months after the article was submitted, "David Phillips" received an email from Sana Mokarram, Bentham's assistant manager of publication: This is to inform you that your submitted article has been accepted for publication after peer-reviewing process in TOISCIJ. I would be highly grateful to you if you please fill and sign the attached fee form and covering letter and send them back via email as soon as possible to avoid further delay in publication. The publication fee was $800, to be sent to a PO Box in the United Arab Emirates. Having made his point, Davis withdrew the paper. Mahmood Alam, Bentham's director of publications, responded to queries from New Scientist by email: "In this particular case we were aware that the article submitted was a hoax, and we tried to find out the identity of the individual by pretending the article had been accepted for publication when in fact it was not." "Why hasn't he attempted to contact me directly in order to determine my true identity?" Davis responds. pwned
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If you can't understand that, well, there really isn't much sense discussing anything with you. As I've already stated, Chomsky has more academic and intellectual accomplishments than all the CT crowd and all his internet denigrators combined - literally. So to dismiss him as some kind of intellectual lightweight because he doesn't parrot the groupthink, and instead criticizes it for taking discussions in an unfruitful direction, is false and a cheap shot from masters of cheap shots. And no, I don't post here to discuss blow jobs or any permutations thereof.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Creative writing at its best. If you disregard all of the anomalous evidence, discount the eyewitness accounts, invent new laws of physics, create false evidence (e.g., Popular Mechanics use of a reversed image of Building 6 claiming it was building 7), and hold your breath until you turn blue you can prove anything - including how 2 AIRPLANES collapsed 3 BUILDINGS that were designed to withstand the impact of a comparable sized aircraft. And then the next step is to attack personally anyone who says otherwise. Virtually everyone of the so-called "debunkers" (actually planted spin) have been resoundingly refuted over and over and over again. However, like a Goat in Heat they keep coming back, and are absoluetely invincible to facts which do not come from an Officially Approved Source™ and do not fit with the Official Conspiracy Theory®. But of course there are sound reasons why the most sophisticated Air Defense system on the planet failed to work in the face of the machiavellian attack of "19ARABSWHOHATEUSCUZWE'REFREE"© and the magic Mad Mullah with his Magick Cellphone hidden deep in his secret mountain fortress in the Tora Bora region of far Pipelinestan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Astute observers of history are aware that for every notable event there will usually be at least one, often several wild conspiracy theories which spring up around it. 'The CIA killed Hendrix', 'The Pope had John Lennon murdered', 'Hitler was half Werewolf', 'Space aliens replaced Nixon with a clone' etc, etc. The bigger the event, the more ridiculous and more numerous are the fanciful rantings which circulate in relation to it. So its hardly surprising that the events of September 11th, 2001 have spawned their fair share of these ludicrous fairy tales. And as always, there is - sadly - a small but gullible percentage of the population eager to lap up these tall tales, regardless of facts or rational analysis. One of the wilder stories circulating about September 11th - and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs - is that it was carried out by nineteen fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they 'hate our freedoms.' Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories. These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organising them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand down of the US air-force, the insider trading on airline stocks - linked to the CIA - the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about nineteen Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer four planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly two hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do. The huge difficulties with such a stupid story force them to invent even more preposturous stories to distract from its core silliness, and thus the tale has escalated into a mythic fantasy of truly gargantuan proportions. It's difficult to apply rational analysis to such unmitigated stupidity, but that is the task which I take on in this article. However, it should be noted that one of the curious characteristics of conspiracy theorists is that they effortlessly change their so called evidence in response to each aspect which is debunked. As soon as one delusion is unmasked, they simply invent another to replace it, and deny that the first ever existed. Eventually, when they have turned full circle through this endlessly changing fantasy fog, they then re-invent the original delusion and deny that you ever debunked it, thus beginning the circle once more. This technique is known as 'the fruit loop' and saves the conspiracy theorist from ever having to see any of their ideas through to their (il)ogical conclusions. According to the practitioners of the fruit loop, nineteen Arabs took over four planes by subduing the passengers and crew through the use of guns, knives, box cutters and gas, and then used electronic guidance systems which they had smuggled on board to fly the planes to their targets. The suspension of disbelief required for this outrageous concoction is only for the hard core conspiracy theorist. For a start, they conveniently skip over the awkward fact that there weren't any Arabs on the planes. If there were, one must speculate that they somehow got on board without being filmed by any of the security cameras and without being registered on the passenger lists. But the curly question of how they are supposed to have got on board is all too mundane for the exciting world of the conspiracy theorist. With vague mumblings that they must have been using false ID - but never specifying which IDs they are alleged to have used, or how these were traced to their real identities - they quickly bypass this problem, to relate exciting and sinister tales about how some of the fictitious fiends were actually searched before boarding because they looked suspicious. However, as inevitably happens with any web of lies, this simply paints them into an even more difficult corner. How are they supposed to have got on board with all that stuff if they were searched ? And if they used gas in a confined space, they would have been affected themselves unless they also had masks in their luggage. "Excuse me sir, why do you have a boxcutter, a gun, a container of gas, a gas mask and an electronic guidance unit in your luggage?" "A present for your grandmother? Very well sir, on you get." "Very strange", thinks the security officer, "that's the fourth Arabic man without an Arabic name who just got on board with a knife, gun or boxcutter and gas mask...and why does that security camera keep flicking off every time one these characters shows up? Must be one of those days I guess..." Asking any of these basic questions to a conspiracy theorist is likely to cause a sudden leap to the claim that we know that they were on board because they left a credit card trail for the tickets they had purchased and cars they had rented. So if they used credit cards that identified them, how does that reconcile with the claim that they used false IDs to get on to the plane? But by this time , the fruit loop is in full swing, as the conspiracy theorist tries to stay one jump ahead of this annoying and awkward rational analysis. They will allege that the hijackers' passports were found at the crash scenes. "So there!" they exalt triumphantly, their fanatical faces lighting up with that deranged look of one who has just a revelation of questionable sanity. Hmm? So they got on board with false IDs but took their real passports with them? However, by this time the fruit loop has been completely circumnavigated,and the conspiracy theorist exclaims impatiently, "who said anything about false IDs? We know what seats they were sitting in! Their presence is well documented!" And so the whole loop starts again. "Well, why aren't they on the passenger lists?" "You numbskull! They assumed the identities of other passengers!" And so on... Finally, out of sheer fascination with this circular method of creative delusion, the rational sceptic will allow them to get away with this loop, in order to move on to the next question, and see what further delights await us in the unraveling of this marvelously stupid story. "Uh, how come their passports survived fiery crashes that completely incinerated the planes and all the passengers? "The answer of course is that its just one of those strange coincidences, those little quirks of fate that do happen from time to time. You know, like the same person winning the lottery four weeks in a row. The odds are astronomical, but these things do happen. This is another favourite deductive method of the conspiracy theorist. The 'improbability drive', in which they decide upon a conclusion without any evidence whatsoever to support it, and then continually speculate a series of wildly improbable events and unbelievable co-incidences to support it, shrugging off the implausibility of each event with the vague assertion that sometimes the impossible happens - just about all the time in their world. There is a principle called 'Occam's razor' which suggests that in the absence of evidence to the contrary, the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. Conspiracy theorists hate Occam's razor. Having for the sake of amusement, allowed them to get away with with the silly story of the nineteen invisible Arabs, we move on to the question of how they are supposed to have taken over the planes. Hijacking a plane is not an easy thing to do. Hijacking it without the pilot being able to alert ground control is near impossible. The pilot has only to punch in a four digit code to alert ground control to a hijacking. Unconcerned with the awkward question of plausibility, the conspiracy buffs maintain that on that September 11th, the invisible hijackers took over the plane by the rather crude method of threatening people with boxcutters and knives, and spraying gas - after they had attached their masks, obviously - but somehow took control of the plane without the crew first getting a chance to punch in the hijacking code. Not just on one plane, but on all four. At this point in the tale, the conspiracy theorist is again forced to call upon the services of the improbability drive. So now that our incredibly lucky hijackers have taken control of the planes, all four pilots fly them with breath taking skill and certainty to their fiery end, all four pilots unflinching in their steely resolve for a swift meeting with Allah. Apart from their psychotic hatred of 'our freedoms', it was their fanatical devotion to Islam which enabled them to summon up the iron will to do this. Which is strange, because according to another piece of hearsay peddled by the conspiracy buffs, these guys actually went out drinking and womanizing the night before their great martyrdom, even leaving their Korans in the bar - really impeccable Islamic behavior - and then got up at 5 o'clock the next morning to pull off the greatest covert operation in history. This also requires us to believe that they were even clear headed enough to learn how to fly the huge planes by reading flight manuals in Arabic in the car on the way to the airport. We know this because they supposedly left the flight manuals there for us to find. It gets better. Their practical training had allegedly been limited to Cessnas and flight simulators, but this was no barrier to the unflinching certainty with which they took over the planes and skillfully guided them to their doom. If they are supposed to have done their flight training with these tools, which would be available just about anywhere in the world, its not clear why they would have decided to risk blowing their cover to US intelligence services by doing the training in Florida, rather than somewhere in the Middle East, but such reasoning is foreign to the foggy world of the conspiracy theorist, too trapped in the constant rotation of the mental fruit loop to make their unsubstantiated fabrications seem even semi-believable. Having triumphantly established a circular delusion in support of the mythical Arabs, the conspiracy theorist now confronts the difficult question of why there's nothing left of the planes. Anybody who has seen the endlessly replayed footage of the second plane going into the WTC will realize that the plane was packed with explosives. Planes do not and cannot blow up into nothing in that manner when they crash. Did the mythical Arabs also haul a huge heap of explosives on board, and mange to deploy them in such a manner that they went off in the exact instant of the crash, completely vapourizing the plane? This is a little difficult even for the conspiracy theorist, who at this point decides that its easier to invent new laws of physics in order to keep the delusion rolling along. There weren't any explosives. It wasn't an inside job. The plane blew up into nothing from its exploding fuel load! Remarkable, quite remarkable. Sluggishly combustible jet fuel which is basically Kerosene, and which burns at a maximum temperature of around 800 degrees Celcius has suddenly taken on the qualities of a ferociously explosive demolition agent, vapourising sixty-five tons of aircraft into a puff of smoke. Never mind that a plane of that size contains around fifteen tons of steel and titanium, of which even the melting points are about double that of the maximum combustion temperature of Kerosene - let alone the boiling point - which is what would be required to vapourise a plane. And then there's about fifty tons of aluminium to be accounted for. In excess of 15lbs of metal for each gallon of Kerosene. For the conspiracy theorist, such inconvenient facts are vaguely dismissed as 'mumbo jumbo'. This convenient little phrase is their answer to just about anything factual or logical. Like a conjurer pulling a rabbit out of a hat, they suddenly become fanatically insistent about the devastating explosive qualities of Kerosene, something hitherto completely unknown to science, but just discovered by them, this very minute. Blissfully ignoring the fact that never before or since in aviation history has a plane vapourised into nothing from an exploding fuel load, the conspiracy theorist relies upon Hollywood images, where the effects are are always larger than life, and certainly larger than the intellects of these cretins. "Its a well known fact that planes blow up into nothing on impact", they state with pompous certainty, "watch any Bruce Willis movie." "Care to provide any documented examples? If it's a well known fact, then presumably this well known fact springs from some kind of documentation - other than Bruce Willis movies?" At this point the mad but cunning eyes of the conspiracy theorist will narrow as they sense the corner that they have backed themselves into, and plan their escape by means of another stunning backflip. "Ah, but planes have never crashed into buildings before, so there's no way of telling." they counter with a sly grin. Well, actually planes have crashed into buildings before and since, and not vapourised into nothing. "But not big planes, with that much fuel", they shriek in hysterical denial. Or that much metal to vapourise. "Yes but not hijacked planes!" "Are you suggesting that whether the crash is deliberate or accidental affects the combustion qualities of the fuel?" "Now you're just being silly". Although collisions with buildings are rare, planes frequently crash into mountains, streets, other aircraft, nosedive into the ground, or have bombs planted aboard them, and don't vapourise into nothing. What's so special about a tower that's mostly glass? But by now, the conspiracy theorist has once again sailed happily around the fruit loop. "It's a well documented fact that planes explode into nothing on impact." Effortlessly weaving back and forth between the position that its a "well known fact" and that "its never happened before, so we have nothing to compare it to", the conspiracy theorist has now convinced themselves - if not too many other people - that the WTC plane was not loaded with explosives, and that the instant vapourisation of the plane in a massive fireball was the same as any other plane crash you might care to mention. Round and round the fruit loop. But the hurdles which confront the conspiracy theorist are many, and they are now forced to implement even more creative uses for the newly discovered shockingly destructive qualities of Kerosene. They have to explain how the Arabs also engineered the elegant veritcal collapse of both the WTC towers, and for this awkward fact the easiest counter is to simply deny that it was a controlled demolition, and claim that the buildings collapsed from fire caused by the burning Kerosene. For this, its necessary to sweep aside the second law of thermodynamics and propose Kerosene which is not only impossibly destructive, but also recycles itself for a second burning in violation of the law of degradation of energy. You see, it not only consumed itself in a sudden catastrophic fireball , vapourising a sixty-five ton plane into nothing, but then came back for a second go, burning at 2000 degrees centigrade for another hour at the impact point, melting the skyscraper's steel like butter. And while it was doing all this it also poured down the elevator shafts, starting fires all through the building. When I was at school there was a little thing called the entropy law which suggests that a given portion of fuel can only burn once, something which is readily observable in the real world, even for those who didn't make it to junior high school science. But this is no problem for the conspiracy theorist. Gleefully, they claim that a few thousand gallons of Kerosene is enough to: - Completely vapourise a sixty-five ton aircraft - Have enough left over to burn ferociously enough for over an hour at the impact point to melt steel - melting point about double the maximum combustion temperature of the fuel - Still have enough left over to pour down the elevator shafts and start similarly destructive fires all through the building This Kerosene really is remarkable stuff! How chilling to realize that those Kerosene heaters we had in the house when I was a kid were deadly bombs, just waiting to go off. One false move and the entire street might have been vapourised. And never again will I take Kerosene lamps out camping. One moment you're there innocently holding the lamp - the next - kapow! Vapourised into nothing along with with the rest of the camp site, and still leaving enough of the deadly stuff to start a massive forest fire. These whackos are actually claiming that the raging inferno allegedly created by the miraculously recycling, and impossibly hot burning Kerosene melted or at least softened the steel supports of the skyscraper. Oblivious to the fact that the black smoke coming from the WTC indicates an oxygen starved fire - therefore not particularly hot - they trumpet an alleged temperature in the building of 2000 degrees centigrade, without a shred of evidence to support this curious suspension of the laws of physics. Not content with this ludicrous garbage, they then contend that as the steel frames softened, they came straight down instead of buckling and twisting and falling sideways. Since they're already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and redefined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way? The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that its physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors. But according to the conspiracy theorists, the laws of gravity were temporarily suspended on the morning of September 11th. It appears that the evil psychic power of those dreadful Arabs knew no bounds. Even after they were dead, they were able, by the power of their evil spirits, to force down the tower at a speed physically impossible under the laws of gravity, had it been meeting any resistance from fireproofed steel structures originally designed to resist many tons of hurricane force wind as well as the impact of a Boeing passenger jet straying off course. Clearly, these conspiracy nuts never did their science homework at school, but did become extremely adept at inventing tall tales for why. "Muslim terrorists stole my notes,Sir." "No Miss, the Kerosene heater blew up and vapourised everything in the street, except for my passport." "You see Sir, the schoolbus was hijacked by Arabs who destroyed my homework because they hate our freedoms." Or perhaps they misunderstood the term 'creative science' and mistakenly thought that coming up with such rubbish was in fact, their science homework. The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly Kerosene was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can't be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat - although 2000 degrees centigrade isn't really required, 100 degrees centigrade will generally do the job. This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That's right, if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in New York, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in Washington, your DNA will be so robust that it can survive temperatures which completely vapourise a sixty-five ton aircraft. You see, these loonies have somehow concocted the idea that the missile which hit the pentagon was not a missile at all, but one of the hijacked planes. And to prove this unlikely premise, they point to a propaganda statement from the Bush regime, which rather stupidly claims that all but one of the people aboard the plane were identified from the site by DNA testing, even though nothing remains of the plane. The plane was vapourised by the fuel tank explosion, maintain these space loonies, but the people inside it were all but one identified by DNA testing. So there we have it. The qualities of DNA are different, depending upon which city you're in, or perhaps depending upon which fairy story you're trying to sell at any particular time. This concoction about one of the hijacked planes hitting the Pentagon really is a howler. For those not familiar with the layout of the Pentagon, it consists of 5 rings of building, each with a space inbetween. Each ring of building is about 30-35 feet deep, with a similar amount of open space between it and the next ring. The object which penetrated the Pentagon went in at about a 45 degree angle, punching a neat circular hole of about a 12 foot diameter through three rings - six walls. A little later a section of wall about 65 foot wide collapsed in the outer ring. Since the plane which the conspiracy theorists claim to be responsible for the impact had a wing span of 125 feet and a length of 155 feet, and there was no wreckage of the plane, either inside or outside the building, and the lawns outside were still smooth and green enough to play golf on, this crazy delusion is clearly physically impossible. But hey, we've already disregarded the combustion qualities of jet fuel, the normal properties of common building materials, the properties of DNA, the laws of gravity and the second law of thermodynamics, so what the hell - why not throw in a little spatial impossibility as well? I would have thought that the observation that a solid object cannot pass through another solid object without leaving a hole at least as big as itself is reasonably sound science. But to the conspiracy theorist, this is 'mumbo jumbo'. It conflicts with the delusion that they're hooked on, so it 'must be wrong' although trying to get them to explain exactly how it could be wrong is a futile endeavour. Conspiracy theorists fly into a curious panic whenever the Pentagon missile is mentioned. They nervously maintain that the plane was vapourised by it's exploding fuel load, and point to the WTC crash as evidence of this behavior. That's a wonderful fruit loop. Like an insect which has just been sprayed, running back and forth in its last mad death throes, they first argue that the reason the hole is so small is that the plane never entered the wall, having blown up outside, and then suddenly backflip to explain the 250 foot deep missile hole by saying that the plane disappeared all the way into the building, and then blew up inside the building - even though the building shows no sign of such damage. As for what happened to the wings - here's where they get really creative. The wings snapped off and folded into the fuselage which then carried them into the building, which then closed up behind the plane like a piece of meat. When it suits them, they'll also claim that the plane slid in on its belly - ignoring the undamaged lawn - while at the same time citing alleged witnesses to the plane diving steeply into the building from an 'irrecoverable angle.' How they reconcile these two scenarios as being compatible is truly a study in stupidity. Once they get desperate enough, you can be sure that the UFO conspiracy stuff will make an appearance. The Arabs are in league with the Martians. Space aliens snatched the remains of the Pentagon plane and fixed most of the hole in the wall, just to confuse people. They gave the Arabs invisibility pills to help get them onto the planes. Little green men were seen talking to Bin Laden a few weeks prior to the attacks. As America gears up to impeach the traitor Bush, and stop his perpetual oil war, it's not helpful to have these idiots distracting from the process by spreading silly conspiracy theories about mythical Arabs, stories which do nothing but play into the hands of the extremist Bush regime. At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on September 11th, and the subsequent war crimes committed in 'retaliation' are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self indulgence to go unchallenged. Those who are truly addicted to conspiracy delusions should find a more appropriate outlet for their paranoia. Its time to stop loony conspiracy theories about September 11th.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You think the people who constructed the WTC, who sent men to the moon, who developed the ICBM program, who put together the Interstate Freeway system that spans the country, are self-taught internet rubes patting each other on the back in chatrooms? There are millions of patents in this country. For things that actually work as claimed. And most of the patent holders come from American educational institutions where they have been recognized for their intelligence and accomplishments.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley "Why hasn't he attempted to contact me directly in order to determine my true identity?" Davis responds. pwned Yep! That is some serious pwnage. This is what happens when one introduces a nonsensical topic (thermite) that has nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. It is a distraction that takes away from honest debate and fact finding. People have gaps in their knowledge. Let's call them round holes. They try to fit in a square peg. It doesn't fit. So, instead of looking for a round peg to fit that empty round hole, they take that square peg and beat it into that hole with a hammer. Meanwhile, Turtle is probably giggling like a little schoolgirl. The little shit-starter. .
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St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
Spam: The #2 CT Weapon second only to #1, hyperbole, personal invectives and insults. Got a specific point to make? Without huffing and puffing and looking over your shoulder for some attaboys from people with even less research skills than you? As you can see from the graphic below, all the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit. The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them. Now tell me about CT Niels Harritt. In his interviews says he doesn't know how nanothermite was made, but he just knows it's nanothermite. He says nanothermite is both an explosive and a pyrotechnic. A complete bull$hit statement that anybody who has worked with either can state. Harritt says there could be anywhere from 10 tons to 100 tons - off by an order of magnitude. He says "they" brought it in on pallets. He says you have to ask the security how it got wired up. He leave unsaid how the precisely timed sequences of explosions - which all happen after the floors already start falling - get detonated. More questions than answers. And this is supposed to be your champion.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Nanonthermites, a fairly recent and very advanced iteration of an old product, is a different fettle of kish. It has both heat generating and explosive properties based upon how it is applied and/or ignited. Attempting to refute the physical evidence by using a Strawman i.e., the reaction of standard relatively low energy thermite is a comparison of a unlike items - sort of like trying to claim a Pony is a Clydesdale. One can look at the sharp angular cut of the beam, along with the telltale slag from having reached a molten state and know that the beam was sliced intentionally in some fashion. A paper fire does not do that, nor burning office furnishings, Jet fuel, or any of the other proposed mechanisms. The best the debunkers can come up with is the assertion that someone might have cut it after the fact while providing no sound rationale for cutting it at a steep angle. An after the fact debris removal crew, if they found it necessary to cut, would not intentionally make the longest possible cut to clear debris. I could literally waste hours going through point by tedious point, or I could sum it all up by simply inviting people to look at the mountains of available evidence, the contradictions in the Official Conspiracy Theory™, and compare them to the observed events and phenomena. One can only accept the Official Conspiracy Theory™ by disregarding lab analyses, the fact that the chairman of the 911 Commission has himself publicly said that government agencies lied to the Commission, along with literally hundreds of other datums that are in direct contradiction to the Official Conspiracy Theory™. While I don't claim to know all the details and names there is one thing I can say with certainty and that is that the Official Conspiracy Theory™ of "19Arabswhohateuscuzwe'refree" directed by a madman (a CIA employee no less) in a cave in a remote mountain comes nowhere near accounting for the observed events, phenomena, and contradictory data.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Send $800 to a PO Box in Abu Dhubai and you too, can get your own ***peer reviewed*** scientific journal article, and even be invited to be an editor so you can publish more for free!!! Such a deal.....
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley There is no physical evidence. Zero. There are no patents, nothing written up, and no demonstrations including any by either Harritt or Jones. Case closed.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley I used to make thermite when I was 12, 13. Rust and powdered aluminum. Set it off with Fourth of July sparklers. Dangerous stuff, burns ragged holes through metal. I can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to stuff it into the WTC and trying to set it off.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
I already showed you a picture of an iron worker using a cutting torch on WTC post-crash. Here is is again. From the same place the Truthers got their photos, but conveniently ignored. He's just lit the oxy-acetylene flame and is adjusting it. They make angular cuts to make sure the remaining part of the building fall where they can be cleaned up easily.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Me too. I used magnesium ribbon. And my Dad was a highway superintendent who switched over to ammonium nitrate from dynamite when blasting through granite mountains. Cheaper than dynamite and more bank for the buck.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley The Chinese sure know how to build, don't they? It burned a lot hotter and a lot longer than 7 did. It didn't fall. www.guardian.co.uk/world/...centre-tower-beijing-fire I'll watch your vids. If it is what I think it is, it just goes to show that there is bullshit on both sides. That is probably intentional. .
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or All the WTC buildings had designs intended to maximize rental space by using the exterior walls - including novel tube load bearing designs - for greater amounts of load bearing than conventional buildings which use more interior columns. Also WTC 7 exterior was severely bashed by falling beams from the Twin Towers that aren't shown in the CT videos, and had uncontrolled fires burning for hours fed by 43,000 gallons of diesel intended for the uninterrupted power supply which had its own pump continually feeding these fires. Finally the east part of the WTC (not shown in CT videos, shown on my links) collapsed 8 seconds before the West and by shifting the remaining load to the West during the collapse made the entire building collapse inevitable. Debunking 911: First Time in History (Steel Structure Collasping) There were a lot of firsts for the WTC. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been hit with a plane traveling 500 miles an hour and had its fire proofing removed from its trusses. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever had its steel columns which hold lateral load sheared off by a 767. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been a building which had its vertical load bearing columns in its core removed by an airliner. For Building 7, in all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been left for 6-7 hours with its bottom floors on fire with structural damage from another building collapse. Not the Madrid/Windsor tower did not have almost 40 stories of load on its supports after being hit by another building which left a 20 story gash. The Madrid tower lost portions of its steel frame from the fire. Windsor's central core was steel reinforced concrete. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been without some fire fighters fighting the fires. I could go on with the "Firsts" but you get the drift. The statement that the WTC buildings were the first high-rise buildings to collapse from fire is deceptive because it purposely doesn't take those factors into account. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley On the other hand: Is it more difficult to believe that BO is a lizard than it is to believe that he is a human being?
I think he's neither a lizard man or a human. I think he's nothing more than a trained primate.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files Live free or It's true. He's somebody's tool. He can't make a decision before he has checked with his masters.
so you believe that one too, eh? :-) your wordy defense of the so-called establishment is not going to convince anyone. because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job. so your list of 'credentialed experts' can work both ways.Also, your use of God's name in vain in an internet squabble reveals much that you are lacking. you wrote 'You have nothing'; but more appropriate is the Scripture 'Without Me, you can do nothing' (John 15:5)
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job. Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications....... Good one!!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications....... Good one!!!!! Earth to AGGravator! Earth to AGGravator! Some of them are in the public record. I repeat: Some of them are in the public record. For example the Head of West German Intelligence. The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites (the legitimate ones not government PsyOp sites) who will publish and/or post anything which is relevant. That also applies to any flavor of so-called "skeptic" and/or debunker websites. Invariably you can count on them to twist and misrepresent facts, and the so-called debunkers have repeatedly been proven wrong, if not outright frauds using false information such as Popular Mechanics. Another favorite is "Snopes" which was outed as being just two people, no research capabilities beyond standard search techniques, and wrong. Because a website pushes the "Official Truth™" does not mean it is THE truth. If you hadn't noticed the government frequently lies and has a large disinformation presence on the 'net.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Hyperbole and invective, the standard opening k00kresponse to an alternate reality 99% of the rest of the world's population finds believable. What a surprise < /sarc>... More unsubstantiated assertions with zero proof produced to support them. Then there's the question of how our lucky poster just happens to personally receive this privileged informaiton. You do know there are zillions of pictures of the moon rocket taking off, with astronauts in the cabin, a constantly updated log of activities and pictures to support them, an exit from the atmosphere, photos of the earth from outer space, etc. etc. Just where exactly did that rocket and its occupants go, then? Did it make a quick right turn and land somewhere in the Pacific once it was out of view of TV cameras? What about the return. Where did that item recovered in the middle of the ocean with astronauts inside come from? And on the date it was broadcast. The capacity of CT's to disbelieve any and all evidence they don't wish to consider is truly amazing. Especially when they arm-wave without any specific citing of facts and numbers, while claiming to be upholding science. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Ohhhhkayyyyy. Tell me how many "911 Truth Sites" have put out the following; Just for starters...
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley Whenever they say the WTC collapsed from the fire they always ignore the fact both buldings had huge airplanes loaded with jet fuel fly into them at 500 miles an hour. I thank God every day my mind is clear enough to not be a conspiracist.
St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."
NO PLANE hit WTC 7 and yet it fell into its own footprint. Just think, on September 11, not one, not two, but three steel-framed skyscrapers all decided to just give up and fall down because of fire and none ever had before and none has since. It was the Magickal Jet Fuel™. I sure am glad they only made one batch of that. Another five or ten thousand gallons would have probably destroyed every building in America, maybe the world.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Good one!!!!! I suppose you never used Google much, eh? LOL!!! Yeah right, I'm sure they were positioning cranes over WTC7 right before it fell down...
Oh, it took what, 1 or 2 seconds more for the top of the building to reach the ground than if it had fallen through thin air? So what were the bottom 70 or so floors made of, butter? Hell, it'd take longer to fall through butter than what it did to pulverize 70+ floors of UNDAMAGED concrete and steel.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant? Some have tried to claim he meant to "pull the firefighters" but that wouldn't have been his call and they had already been out for a good while before that anyway. People who believe the government's stupid theory will believe just about anything (except the truth).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Good one!!!!! I suppose you never used Google much, eh? Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report Like most Kool-Aid Drinkers he is data averse. His mind is made up now don't confuse him with the facts. I have reached the conclusion that there are really only two categories of 911 debunkers: Adherents to the goobermunt (Ours, England's, and Israel's) and their paid shills. (A subset of which is private organizations who operate for the Banksters.) The invincibly ignorant who have concluded, upon no good evidence, that it is impossible for it to have been a planned and intended event. It conflicts with their world view of Government Worship, and/or they have swallowed the PsyOps/PR hook, line, and sinker.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Your image is missing the support columns, and gives the impression the WTC towers were "floating" the floors with no support at all. Here are some images of one of the towers as it was being built... Here's some info on the construction if you're interested. "Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations I've heard.
Yeah right, I'm sure they were positioning cranes over WTC7 right before it fell down... Yeah right, another snot-nosed opening CT remark, true to form. No, they were talking about ***pulling*** the firefighters back from the building so they would not die in its impending collapse, like the ones in the Twin Towers already had. However it is the CT's who claim that ***pull*** means ***explode*** instead of "pull back" or "withdraw." And within the building demolition industry, "pull" does not mean "explode," it means "pull down." So we have a word "pull" in k00kspeak being completely separated from normal English syntax and diction.
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley You're so easily amused. So tell me how "pull" means "pull with exlosives." Do you know that explosives "push" things away, not "pull" them towards? BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Marley I can't believe there are still people who think they know all about 9/11, yet don't even look at the basic facts, they just believe the government and the media explanations. Apparently, the brainwashing is quite powerful.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYou mean that slag from molten steel doesn't always form in Class Alpha (paper and wood) Office Fires?
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831
#40. To: Original_Intent (#35)
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Great shot of the angular cut beam. Straight sheer planes like that happen every day when heavy structural steel fails in catastrophic collapses. Way to go! /Sacasm
There are a number of things they claim with this photo.
At New Scientist we love a good hoax, especially one that both amuses and makes a serious point about the communication of science. So kudos to Philip Davis, a graduate student at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, who revealed yesterday on The Scholarly Kitchen blog that he got a nonsensical computer-generated paper accepted for publication in a peer-reviewed journal.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#41. To: Eric Stratton (#33)
What are you, a made for the MSM wooden head?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#42. To: AGAviator (#37)
#43. To: AGAviator (#41)
#44. To: Eric Stratton (#42)
But again, it has little to do with my point about blow-job qualifications.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#45. To: AGAviator, farmfriend, Eric Stratton, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, all (#30)
I don't want to take up several pages copying it to here. Those debunkers do a bang up job rebutting the CT pablum.
By Gerard Holmgren
1-31-6
#46. To: Eric Stratton (#43)
So you think that citing a list of blow-job academic and "within the system" credentials is research," much less independent research, much less any research that means a shit?
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#47. To: AGAviator, Turtle (#40)
Mahmood Alam, Bentham's director of publications, responded to queries from New Scientist by email: "In this particular case we were aware that the article submitted was a hoax, and we tried to find out the identity of the individual by pretending the article had been accepted for publication when in fact it was not."
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#48. To: PSUSA (#47)
Meanwhile, Turtle is probably giggling like a little schoolgirl. The little shit-starter.
#49. To: Original_Intent (#45)
Conspiracy theorists say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn't hit by airliners and only had a few fires. They also claim that there was a confession from the building owner who said he "pulled" it. But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7. Below is evidence showing that conspiracy theorists are wrong.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#50. To: AGAviator, all (#40)
[quote] Thermite in general makes an ugly hole with molten metal drips/blobs. It doesn't make clean cuts. It's a powder that undergoes a violent chemical reaction...[/quote]
#51. To: PSUSA (#47)
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#52. To: Original_Intent (#50)
Nanonthermites, a fairly recent and very advanced iteration of an old product, is a different fettle of kish. It has both heat generating and explosive properties based upon how it is applied and/or ignited. Attempting to refute the physical evidence
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#53. To: AGAviator (#49)
A complete bull$hit statement that anybody who has worked with either can state
#54. To: Original_Intent (#50)
One can look at the sharp angular cut of the beam, along with the telltale slag from having reached a molten state and know that the beam was sliced intentionally in some fashion. A paper fire does not do that, nor burning office furnishings, Jet fuel, or any of the other proposed mechanisms. The best the debunkers can come up with is the assertion that someone might have cut it after the fact while providing no sound rationale for cutting it at a steep angle
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#55. To: Turtle (#53)
I used to make thermite when I was 12, 13. Rust and powdered aluminum. Set it off with Fourth of July sparkle
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#56. To: AGAviator (#49)
Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them.
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#57. To: PSUSA (#56)
(Edited)
The Chinese sure know how to build, don't they? It burned a lot hotter and a lot longer than 7 did. It didn't fall.
Conspiracy Theorists bring up the fact that the towers were the first steel high rises to fall from fire in history. The fact is the towers had other firsts that day they never seem to include.
Regular Building Column Design 
WTC Column Design
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#58. To: PSUSA (#1)
Why does anyone believe anything he says? I mean, come on!
#59. To: angK (#58)
CHIMPOUT!
die kill ~~ Me
God is a separatist. That's good enough for me.
#60. To: PSUSA (#59)
I think he's nothing more than a trained primate.
#61. To: AGAviator (#37)
the flight to the moon
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#62. To: Artisan (#61)
(Edited)
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#63. To: AGAviator, Artisan, wudidiz, all (#62)
the flight to the moon so you believe that one too, eh? :-)...because people closer to inelligence agencies & the halls of government than you'd dream of being have come out & said it was an inside job.
#64. To: Original_Intent (#63)
Earth to AGGravator!
Some of them are in the public record.
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#65. To: Original_Intent (#63)
The problem with using any "debunker" website is that they have an agenda other than the truth. They will NEVER publish or post anything which damages their debunking case. This is in contrast with most of the 911 Truth sites
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#66. To: AGAviator (#65)
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#67. To: Turtle (#66)
I thank God every day my mind is clear enough to not be a conspiracist.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#68. To: AGAviator, Artisan (#62)
Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#69. To: AGAviator (#65)
WTC7 - Pull means "pull with cables"...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#70. To: AGAviator (#65)
(Edited)
9/11 Debunked - No Free Fall
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#71. To: Turtle, James Deffenbach (#67)
NO PLANE hit WTC 7 and yet it fell into its own footprint. Just think, on September 11, not one, not two, but three steel-framed skyscrapers all decided to just give up and fall down because of fire and none ever had before and none has since
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#72. To: FormerLurker (#69)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#73. To: FormerLurker, AGAviator, all (#68)
Rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhtttttt..... And you just happen to be one of the privileged recipients of their communications.......
#74. To: James Deffenbach, FormerLurker (#72)
How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant? Some have tried to claim he meant to "pull the firefighters" but that wouldn't have been his call and they had already been out for a good while before that anyway. People who believe the government's stupid theory will believe just about anything (except the truth).
"There's a sucker born every minute, and a man to take him every five." ~ P.T. Barnum
#75. To: AGAviator (#57)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#76. To: James Deffenbach (#72)
How many people have tried to con us with that lame-ass explanation of what they want us to believe Silverstein meant?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#77. To: FormerLurker (#69)
WTC7 - Pull means "pull with cables"... LOL!!!
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#78. To: FormerLurker (#76)
"Pulling it with cables" is a new one on me, and certainly one of the most ludicrous and ridiculous explanations
"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"
#79. To: Original_Intent (#73)
Like most Kool-Aid Drinkers he is data averse. His mind is made up now don't confuse him with the facts.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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